₦airaland Forum

Ladyhippolyta88:
I agree

Empiree:
Bala or no Bala, Shari'a Law was created by state. Shari'a Law runs parallel along customary law. Both are still operated by state. Therefore, Shari'a Law is state law. Whether you understand what I just said or not that's your problem.

Let me also clarify your other misconception. Shari'a Law a k a Penal Code preceded Kano State. Sharia Penal Code was always in place in Northern part of Nigeria since 1960 but it was redundant. Sharia Penal Code was created in Kano in 1960 but Kano state was created in 1967. So Shari'a is legal. Refer to the attachment below.

Sharia was not enforced until 1999. They probably wouldn't have implemented Sharia in 1999 if christians did not make effort to christianized Nigeria between 1990 and 2000. So it was Christians that pushed the North to pass Sharia Law to impede Christianity up North.

If Sharia Law is illegal, why did federal govt of Nigeria recognize it?. No law can run in Nigeria without approval of federal govt. Matter of fact, Sharia Law preceded current federal constitution.





He was tried under Sharia Penal Code runs by state. Sharia/Customary laws are state laws.




both of them violated the law of their respective countries. One was federal crime. The later was state crime.

Empiree:
I may have mistaken Bala for someone else. My understanding is a guy was arrested for blasphemy in Kano and not Bala. Of course I heard about bala's case few years ago but I don't know details. Whatever it is, I was referring a guy arrested for blasphemy in Kano. It is state law. If you don't like the law or not comfortable with it, then don't violate the law..I don't know what's contained in the law about who can be or can not be prosecuted under the law.

My point is obey the law. Law is law. We have argued this before. In western some countries they have similar laws, the most famous is Holocaust law. Holocaust law is euphemism of saying blasphemy law.

They are very much aware of the consequences of saying blasphemy law. So they use Holocaust law which means it is taboo to deny Holocaust because Holocaust is sacred to them. There are 7 european countries and israel that have Holocaust legislation.

Why don't you have problems with this?. Why are you being hypocritical?. At least I know France and Germany have this Holocaust law. USA indirectly endorsed it but they shy away from openly supporting the Holocaust law because it is not in tandem with USA constitution.

So Kano state have blasphemy law. If you violate the law don't start screaming "persecution". No one persecutes you but you violate the law. Very simply.

What I am against is illegally detaining people or indefinite detention. It is not for you to condemn Kano blasphemy law. If you have problem with the law, simply challenge the law in court not nairaland.

This is not persecution of atheism. Stop bigotry and think rationally. Talking about USA, UK etc that you cited, you obviously are very naive. People get in trouble and get arrested for running their mouths for unprotected speeches. You think freedom is free?. Naa, bruv.

Superpower:
So because it happens in other places that means it's right.

Empiree:
keep repeating yourself live clock. Law is law. He violated the law and he was arrested. Period. If them born you well, go and deny Holocaust and you will see your butt jailed.

why didn't you complete the story?. The same way this one violated immigration law is the same way Bala violated blasphemy law. Every region has their own set of rules and must be obeyed and respected. Why are you twisting his story?. Yes he was tried and was given 6 months or less behind bars and released by order of judge. He was then rearrested and detained out of court order for no reason for 1 and half years. I guess it is easy for you to talk trash because you are not in his shoes. His detainment was illegal and unconstitutional. Didn't you listen to him?.



which atheist?.



we can argue forever and we aren't gonna agree with one another. They said the guy violated blasphemy law and he was arrested. There is no issue with this at all. Law is law. But what I am against is detainment without charges. And I said this is very common and I cited examples from western world that illegally detaining people is very common in other parts of the world, not only Nigeria. That's my point of argument.

I posted a link showing obama signed into law indefinite detention and I provided a name as example but you still arguing blindly. I repeat, indefinite detention is very common in many countries. Just pray you don't become victim. They will lock you up and throw away the key. So it is unfair to detain the guy in Kano without trial or charges. This is my point of argument. If they have noting against him they need to let him go. Stop acting as if illegal detention is only practiced in Nigeria.

Empiree:
oh no. I actually decided to not type names for personal reason. I wanted to allow you to do your own research. I'm not gonna say anything about this. I am a living witness. But to start your research, that's why I gave you the name of the investigative journalist. I used to talk to him a decade ago.

It is clear to me that so many Nigerians are naive. You think western world is heaven where no mistakes in their legal process is made?. I will allow you to do your independent research instead of me giving you the info. Note that it is not only Muslims but many nonmuslims as well.

When you finally get to do your research on your own, whether or takes your 10 years or 10 days, make sure you return here to give testimonies.

You guys believe in mainstream media so much. You think mainstream media would expose govt all the time?. Go behind closed doors and you see so many dirty politics. I have posted a video of Nigeria Christian that was locked up in USA for a year and half without trial after serving 6 months for crime he committed (overstayed visa). You guys have lots to learn and I won't allow you to learn it from me. Go out and learn. Internet is there for a reason. Use it.

Even if you don't believe me when I said there are people locked up for years without trial, the video you watched you should give you a clue already. You heard what Trevor Aaronson said, isn't?.

If that's not enough for you please go and read his book titled (attachment). You will read all types of dirty things you never heard of. And check Mother Jones and ACLU

You guys have zero idea what's going on. Anyways let me just drop name of only ones case of a teenager arrested, detained and tortured without charges. His name is Gulet Mohamed,.

Empiree:
Have a good day

Agbegbaorogboye:
There is nothing in that link that shows 10 Muslims locked up without trial in the US. If I missed it, pls highlight it.

Empiree:
you didn't address my post. Read again

Empiree:
what's my business with his case?. It is not new for govt to lock up people unconstitutionally. This is not restricted to Nigeria only. I believe you live in UK. They do it there too. So what the problem?.

I don't believe in locking up someone indefinitely without charge regardless of his crime. But it is govt practices around the world to lock up people for years without formal charge. But for Nigerians to start screaming "international human rights and international community" should involved is absurd. They do the same in their own countries. Let the so called international community resolves issues in their own countries first before poke-nosing others. Ask me for proofs and I will bring just 10 cases of Muslims locked up for years and decades without formal charges against them in western countries.

How about Gitmo?. There are Muslims locked up there without charge but you bigots turned blind eye. Is that constitutional?. If Bala did nothing or if govt has no case against him they need to let him go. Simple.

How about ikoyi prison?. Do you guys have idea what's going on there?. There are people in there already discharged legally but they are still held in prison because no one would come to bail them (egunje). But you guys focus on anything Islamic to make cheap point. Please go to ikoyi prison and you will see lots of innocent Muslims asked nonmuslims there for years but they are already relieved of the charges brought against them but they are still not released. You all need to get a life and stop instigating hatred against religion.

gentleibraheem:
” There is no difference between Guru maraji of Lagos and Jesus christ of nazareth, our own Nigeria is even better that he was not a terrorist. ”

how does the Above statement sound??. i think its Intentionally inciting

Gmajor:
Which one came first - the Straight Put of Compton music or movie?

Ajineita:
Need black American hood movies please...

Empiree:
I can excuse your ignorance actually

saintchibu:
This is not being fair to the Judge. Have you tried to see some of the cases handled by this Judge you're calling a coward? Sometimes it's better to ask questions than come on social media to display your ignorance. That a case was not defended does not give the Plaintiff an automatic victory. Every case must succeed on its merit.

Empiree:
It is a pity you have no sense. I can't be wasting my time any further. You have your motives which I can understand.

DandeNumeruno:
Really? A Purge movie in 2020?

Lmao

DandeNumeruno:
Why are you obsessed with USA?

Empiree:
I know you don't have sense to decipher my post. Bigotry is truly a disease.

When I said it is subjected to culture it means it's application. For example, Nigeria and United kingdom claimed to have democracy. Can you compare them?.

Nigerian democracy is subjective to Nigerian cultures and way of life. Way of life in Nigeria political system is favoritism
and disregard for the rule of law which they have maintained during military regime. When Nigeria adopted democracy the country still never changed. Matter of fact it changed for the worse. There is no difference between political system then and now.

Politicians still get away with many things but in United kingdom corrupt politicians are brought to book under the law. But it doesn't mean they don't have issues too.

Similarly Sharia, when it is applied by different countries they tend to incorporate elements of their culture into it. Muslims are not homogeneous people. This is what you failed to understand.

For example, Saudi Arabia did not allow women to drive for decades. This has nothing to do with Islam but because it is a majority Muslim country, nonmuslims would think it is Sharia law that prevents women from driving. A sincere truth seeking nonmuslim would look into other Muslim majority countries to see if women drive. If they do it means Saudi Arabia that refused to allow their women to drive is subjective to them not Islam.

I know I have to teach you certain things but I am sure you are still gonna come up with trash because you don't think from your head. You have allowed hatred to take over the best of you. It is very painful

nani667:
8 / 10 ★★★

alexistaiwo:
Was the wife aware that the picture used to hold her to ransom a fake at the time she was curating it or not?

Friedyokes:
you're attempting comedy , good for you .

Ishilove:
No be only manhunter. Na lion hunter. Shior.

Heaven will rejoice the day you grow up and have sense.

Ishilove:
LMAO!! It is like you don't know who you are quoting.

What a sore, pathetic loser

Ishilove:
Pocohantas