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CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:11am On May 29, 2013
Thumbs up to you Don! And I will stick to your recommendations, the argument is surely not worth it. Welcome, Boss! smiley
donroxy: kudos to you!!!

Ur article is always educating !!! One of the few that make Nairaland an interesting Forum !!!


kindly learn from Iyaniwura who doesn't argue much on issues as this ...........Post ur opinion,do not expect everyone to accept ur views,embrace contrary views .......(Except u r doing this intentionally) !!!


As for Shymexx's donroxy and Adozazzau ..........tis just one of those self acclaimed Intelligence on Nairaland ..........

Imagine someone I never had any encounter labelled me fake Yoruba !!!! Na ihm sabi joor !!!
PoliticsChristopher Alexander Sapara-Williams, Nigeria's First Lawyer by Abiyamo(op): 3:04am On May 28, 2013
CHRISTOPHER ALEXANDER SAPARA-WILLIAMS, Nigeria's First Lawyer

Today, every year, thousands of brand-new ochara tuntun lawyers graduate from the various laws schools in Lagos, Abuja, Kano, Yenagoa, Enugu and in Yola. More than 70,000 of these tear rubber members of the learned profession have been produced by Nigerian law schools but have you ever wondered who the first Nigerian lawyer was? The first Naija lawyer to wear that wig? You want to hazard a guess? Well, you've seen the title already...lol! Today, the focus is on Nigeria's very first indigenous lawyer, HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER ALEXANDER SAPARA-WILLIAMS. His words: “The legal practitioner lives for the direction of his people and the advancement of the cause of his country.” These memorable words adorned the chambers of one of Nigeria's fiercest lawyers, Chief Gani Fawehinmi, SAN.

BIRTH AND EARLY DAYS

Although he was born on the 14th of July, 1855 in Sierra Leone, Sapara-Williams had his roots in Ijeshaland (he was of the Ilesha subgroup of the Yorubas, found mainly in Osun and some parts of Oyo State, he fondly referred to his native hometown as Ijesha wa meaning 'our Ijesha'). He was the elder sibling of Dr. Oguntola Odunbaku Sapara, a well-known medical doctor. His parents were Alexander Charles Williams (Orisha Saparoda or Sapara Senior), a liberated slave and Nancy Johnson from Egbaland. They had three kids, one girl and two boys: Clementina Mary Anne (later married Honourable Charles Foresythe, once the Colonial Treasurer of the old Lagos government but she later died in labour in 1877 and the disaster so touched her brother, Oguntola, who decided to study medicine with special emphasis on midwifery), James and our dear lawyer, Christopher, the elder son.

EDUCATION

In 1871, he attended CMS Grammar School and later, the Wesley College, Sheffield, United Kingdom. Sapara-Williams was a law student at the Inner Temple, London, United Kingdom and after graduation, he was back in Nigeria where he started his practice on the 13th of January, 1888 in Lagos State (then the Lagos Colony). Have you noticed that today, the reverse is the case? Nigerians actually study here and leave the country to go and work abroad.

LOVE, MARRIAGE AND FAMILY

He was married to Danko Sapara-Williams (see pictures).

LEGAL PRACTICE

On the 17th of November, 1879, he stamped his name in the annals of history as the first Nigerian lawyer when he was called to the English Bar. As an advocate, Sapara-Williams clearly distinguished himself and his knowledge of the customary law was indeed breath-taking, even if the law was not in writing. On the 30th of January, 1888, he joined as a member of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA) and on the 30th of August 1888, (124 years ago), he enrolled at the Supreme Court, Lagos as the first Nigerian barrister. It will also interest you to know that from 1900 to 1915, he was the Chairman of the NBA, which remains till date, one of Nigeria's most influential bodies.

It must however be noted that even though Sapara Williams was a pioneer in the field, there were some other contemporaries who also practiced law with him. But owing to the very low number of lawyers as at that time, people with no legal training but were a bit literate and had a passing knowledge of the English Law were regularly chosen to work as attorneys. Sapara-Williams handled popular cases such as Cole vs Cole and the Attorney-General of Southern Nigeria vs John Holt and Company. These were some of the most celebrated cases of the time and he also practised law in Accra, Ghana.

POLITICAL CAREER

As hinted earlier, Sapara-Williams also dabbled into politics and left his mark. He was the one who proposed that the 'the present boundary between the Colony and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria and the Protectorate of Northern Nigeria be readjusted by bringing the southern portion into Southern Nigeria, so that the entire tribes of the Yoruba-speaking people should be under one and the same administration.' Although Lord Lugard, the Governor-General did not support this move, his input to the final conclusion was more than slight.

He was also instrumental to the decolonization of the country. In 1905, he was in the United Kingdom where he made various proposals to the Colonial Office to make the necessary changes in their policies. Among others, he called for the construction of a training college for teachers in Lagos. And later, he also questioned the Seditious Offences Ordinances of 1909, which muzzled the press and clamped down on critics of the colonial authorities.
He stated that: 'Freedom of the Press is the great Palladium of British liberty ... Sedition is a thing incompatible with the character of the Yoruba people, and has no place in their constitution ... Hyper-sensitive officials may come tomorrow who will see sedition in every criticism and crime in every mass meeting'. Although the British still went ahead with the ordinance, making it a law, his voice was already heard.
His political and nationalist struggles did not end there. He allied with Herbert Macaulay to start the Anti-Slavery and Aborigines Protection Society in Lagos on the 30th of August, 1910. This gave Macaulay a stronghold in attacking the British imperialists.

DEATH
Death came knocking on the 15th of March, 1915. But according to another Nigerian legal luminary, Pa Tunji Gomez, Sapara-Williams was buried at the Ajele Stadium (which was then used as a burial ground, other people buried there include Bishop Ajayi Crowther), something happened long after his burial. There was a case against the military governor of the state over Ajele Stadium and the government decided to exhume the bodies of those buried there to make way for other constructions and no one was willing to challenge the khaki boys until Pa Gomez took up the challenge with the late lawyer's daughter, Madam Sapara, who was around 70 years at the time and feared for Gomez's life. They were successful in getting an injunction restraining the Lagos State government from exhuming the bodies.

ACHIEVEMENTS AND LEGACY

During the reign of Owa (King and Paramount Ruler) Tayero of Ijeshaland, he was warmly received by the people of Osu, a village located about fifteen kilometres to the south of Ilesha. From there, he was taken with much fanfare to the family compound at Anaye Street, Ilesha. It was there he was conferred the title of the Lodifi of Ilesha by the Owa. Upon becoming a lawyer, Sapara Williams did not become solely engaged in his legal practice. He also took active parts in the political events dominating as at that time under the British colonial rule as can be seen above. When there was the Amalgamation of 1914, Sapara Williams was one of the members of the Legislative Council. Others included seven British officials (one of whom was the Governor chairing the council), two Nigerians (Sapara Williams was one) and two British serving in non-official capacity. Overall, he was a Member of the Legislative Council from October 1901 until he died in 1915. A brilliant lawyer, jurist, advocate, legislator, politician and a powerful orator, he utilized law as a force for positive social change.

NB: I must chip in that more legal giants would later emerge from Sapara-Williams' Ilesha area. These included other people like Justices Kayode Eso, Olayinka Ayoola, Funmi Adekeye (all of the Supreme Courts and others like Pa Bandele Aiku, Felix Fagbohungbe, Aluko Olokun and of course, the legendary Cicero himself, the late Chief James Ajibola Idowu Ige (Bola Ige).

Thank you very much for your time.

SOURCE: http://.com/christopher-alexander-sapara-williams-nigerias-first-lawyer-2/

CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:34am On May 28, 2013
I knew you'd fall flat for it...lol! I thought you were smarter than this...lol! But you've disappointed me, Shymexx. A line of Fulfulde and you are rapping...lol! I am NOT Fulani, get that straight and wake up from your assumptions. It just shows how infantile your thought mechanism is. First it was your false handle claim (better apologize to the owner), and now I am Fulani...lol! Came to make a new post and I checked to see if you are still here, and there you are...good for you! smiley
shymexx: grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

The more I mess with your brain, the more you expose your true identity. grin

Speaking fulbe now, no? Why not claim your tribe from the beginning? - Ashamed - yes, or no? grin

We tradin war stories, we Outlawz on the rise
Jealous niggaz I despise, look in my eyes
grin grin grin
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 12:56am On May 28, 2013
Omashe o. My handle? LOL! I shake my head for you. I just hope the real owner of the handle does not see the mess you are making of yourself here. Now I know I've been wasting my time with you because you are beginning to get really childish (pretending about your mythical handle? you are just too funny)...lol!

I leave you with a Fulani proverb since Soyinka is your uncle who must not be quoted...lol, I hope you'd comprehend it, and if you like, spin another conspiracy theory with it...lol! I'd be glad to keep you occupied with that: Si mawdo wee modan jambere ni nannganaa dum ligal. Okay, let me help you out with the meaning: if a man says he will swallow an axe, help him hold the handle. And since you really like whining, I leave you to continue your monologue. Responding to you is making you feel 'influential'...lol! Bye, Shymexx cheesy
shymexx: Touche, Ms Fula. grin

You should be able to discern your handle from that post...don't start pretending. undecided

Anyway, why quote "Wole Soyinka" and not one of the "influential" Fulani academics? grin
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 10:09pm On May 27, 2013
Lobapari...lol! I thought you had something serious to say. A tiger does not shout its tigritude, it pounces, says Wole Soyinka. If you wan talk, talk or keep shut, all these your parables no make am (wetin concern Donroxy and Fulaman on top this matterhuh). It is a challenge to you to 'expose' me. I've told you assumption and daydreaming do not go well with juvenile exuberance. Odabo for now grin
shymexx: We know "Bororojo" used to be "Fulaman," "AdoZazzau" is "donroxy"(another fake Yoruba). But with you, there's "fire" on the mountain, with the "Star" of David providing protection. lipsrsealed
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 10:05pm On May 27, 2013
Okay, we are all waiting for the breeze abi na hurricane...lol! Join you people soon, more writing to do! smiley By the way, it's been real fun exchanging stuffs with everyone. I have learnt a lot but my stance remains the same. Shymexx, don't embarrass yourself o...lol! Just a thought cos if you go drop another person's name, you are on your own o. Leira mehn grin
kwangi: Because of the imminent breeze from Shymexx, which has the ability to open the fowl's nyaash.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:51pm On May 27, 2013
LOL! Because of what? LOL! Even if one is tensed gan, all these your talk is more hilarious than that of I Go Dye grin
kwangi: Are you tense?
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:45pm On May 27, 2013
Nooo, let me sin more o, I want to sin more abeg, don't forgive me o! LOL! shocked
shymexx: Bro., let's just leave her "to go and sin no more." grin
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:43pm On May 27, 2013
Don't waste my time and yours. Spill whatever you want to spill. I need more comic relief grin
shymexx: Hmmm... Are you sure you want me to reveal your real handle, Ms.?
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:37pm On May 27, 2013
And what of the handle you promised? Fake Yorubas...lol! You provide what I need in a world full of stress: comic relief grin
shymexx: Yeah, analysis for 5th columnists, jakes, fakes, and frauds. grin

There are too many fake Yoruba's on this forum - and it high time real Yoruba's started calling them out.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:31pm On May 27, 2013
You need more than one prophet because all you people and your funny assumptions are really cracking me up...lol!
kwangi: Knew that too.
You don't need a prophet to tell you she's not a full blooded Yoruba!
What kind of thread is this?
The only person that can get on the net and take his/her time to type that fulanis are the most influential in Africa is a fulani!
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:27pm On May 27, 2013
Hahaha...lol! See both of una. Day dreaming is no respecter of age o. Moniker ko, Monica ni. Funny people.
kwangi: ^^lol... Errmm, I'm interested in her 2006 handle/moniker.
Expose her jor.
I just know say no real Yoruba person go come yan dis kind thang.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 9:23pm On May 27, 2013
LOL! Omo, see analysis...lol!
shymexx: She's one of the "5th column" who give Yoruba's a bad name on this forum. How are we even sure that most of the Yoruba bigots on nl are Yoruba's, but posting as Yoruba's? grin

The girl is a fraud and she just lost all the little credibility she had before this thread.

That was the same way the other one created a thread for Ijebu bashing; with an opening post stating that her reason for doing that is to defuse the tension between Yoruba and Igbo bigots... grin Like seriously, what real Yoruba person would do that? Especially someone claiming to be from Lagos(Lagos Island to be exact) - a place, whose history isn't complete without the contributions of the Ijebu's. The Ijebu's gave Lagos the popular Eyo festival; some of the most famous parts of Lagos Island have Ijebu settlements; and Ijebu's are also part of the elite and "Chieftaincy" class of Lagos.

Anyway, this thread ought to be deleted or thrown into the butt-crack of nl. grin
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 4:28pm On May 27, 2013
I guess Shymexx is more at home with insulting people who disagree with him...lol!
AdoZazzau: Mr shymexx, please there is no need for this. Mr Physics took offense to her topic as well but he aired his complaints with civility. Please let us be respectful while in disagreements. You called this beautiful lady Fulani lover mixed with Yoruba ancestry, another one you called Igbo sympathiser mixed with Yoruba ancestry. My friend, this is hurtful. None of us choosed where our fate has brought us. You make arrogant remarks. What ancestry are you mixed with?
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 4:23pm On May 27, 2013
Historical facts? LOL! Victors write history and historians can never be neutral. Absolute facts belong to mathematics and physics (and even that is to a degree, Einsteinian laws fail at a point). History is open to any interpretation, from any angle. I have said mine, whether you agree with it or not, is left to you to sort out. Whatever you have against Fulas is no issue of mine. I will advise you to stop wasting precious time trying to convince me on this (why try so hard if the Fulas are inconsequential?). And as for the fiction writing, you should buy a copy of my first novel and you don't have to insult people because your views are different na, I am not responsible for anyone's frustration grin At this stage, you can go on with your 'Fulanis are not influential' theory, I really need to get to other matters. I have written, I have expressed my opinions, and that's it. Deal with it -if you can. If not, keep whining smiley
shymexx: I guess you're a fictional writer and it's better you stick to writing fictions. However, if you want to hang with the best, when it comes to African history, you need to write based on historical FACTS - and not jejune tales.

Only a Fula would label the non-achieving Fula tribe the most influential tribe in Africa. perhaps, you're one of the Yoruba fulani slaves in Ilorin. You betrayed your people and you've continued to su.ck Fulani's nuts since then. Stick to what you know, Africa is too big and has achieved too much, to be disrespected.

Also, the Fulani's are so influential yet they have a recessive culture. How come every time the Fulani culture comes in contact with other cultures; it dies straight-away? In Northern Nigeria - they lost their culture to the Hausa's. And in Ilorin, they have all been Yorubanised. Why is that? So much for an influential tribe looool.

Get a life, woman.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:20pm On May 27, 2013
Yeah, I love you for that (although your assumption is interesting too cheesy). Opinions are free. It's a free world. What makes the world interesting is the diversity of ideas. For every single post I make, there are those who agree and disagree. It is the duality of life, the yin-yang of existence and a normal feature of nature. That said, just checking on you guys, gotta go now. Nice chatting abi na arguing with you all. grin
PhysicsQED: But you did like the post. It's strange to see that you really agreed with what he wrote, but of course you're entitled to your own opinion, no matter how bizarre it may seem to others.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:16pm On May 27, 2013
Stop your assumptions. It is not healthy. I am a writer, and I pick any topic that comes to mind. Now, it is left to you to draw any image of the writer in your mind. I am enjoying this anyway, shows how a vast majority of people turn their assumptions and generalizations about others into self-believing facts. Asking will be better than guessing. That said, I don't have much time today, goodluck (Jonathan). grin
shymexx: Your Yoruba-ness ought to be questioned, giving the dark history between the two groups. I don't need to be a psychic to know that you're not fully Yoruba based on my interactions with Yoruba people(and being one myself).

I reiterate; Fula people are non-entities...and the only group they influenced are probably the Hausa's(and that's questionable as well if you put into consideration how they achieved that feet). They were defeated by Nupe, Kanuri, a few other minority tribes in the middle belt, couldn't go near the Bini's, scared of Dahomey, defeat by Ibadan, and Ilorin was a case of betrayal.

Also, Mandika's lord over them in their own country on origin, despite the Fula being the majority tribe there. Take the power given to them by the Brits and jihad out, and they're probably the least-achieving tribe in Africa, to be honest.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:03pm On May 27, 2013
Yeah, just as I will soon be Isoko when I write about Isokos praising their legacies...lol! Wonderful person you are grin
shymexx: The chic is half-fulani and she has a fulani bf. Don't believe the hype on the internet.

Just as Isale_gan2 is Igbo but she has been claiming Yoruba for time. grin
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:01pm On May 27, 2013
This is hilarious! Just what I needed, a comic relief smiley
PhysicsQED: @ , I see that you actually liked AdoZazzau's "Fulani master race" post. I saw your username as the only username under the "viewing this topic" list, not long after he made that post, then soon after your name was on the viewing list, there was 1 like for his post. Are you a Yoruba Muslim from somewhere in Kwara who has heavy Fulani roots/ancestry or something? Or Did a Fulani man save your whole family? What's with this distorted perception of the Fulanis?

I don't have anything against the Fulanis, except for their seeming unwillingness to try to rein in and control the violent nomadic pastoralists among them, and I can certainly see how someone could be a fan of their unique culture or history. Now, if there were really such great evidence for the dubious claim this thread is centered around, I might actually accept it, and I think that some other people would as well, but so far, it seems like only you and the two Fulani posters on this thread actually believe the claim.
Music/RadioRe: Evi-Edna Ogholi, Nigeria's Queen Of Reggae by Abiyamo(op): 12:03pm On May 27, 2013
Hahahahah....lol! A whole bottle is too much na...lol! grin
Michael Sokoto: God must bless u jare!
Those dayz cabin bisquitz were a delight, aaawwww Jeeezez. Coca-cola dey answer their papa name wella dat time, who even born u well make u finish one bottle of sprite? Abi na 7up? Water go komot 4 ur eye tire. cheesy
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:26am On May 27, 2013
This thread was created for people like you, too bad of you if you don't read it: https://www.nairaland.com/9154/why-hausas-fulanis-co-joined-one
tpia@:
Too bad for you then.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:12am On May 27, 2013
It is either you don't like reading or you just don't want to read. Right now, I need to focus on other things. Goodluck! If you like, you can add Jonathan cool
shymexx: I see you like arguing backwards. How can you label Timbktu "Islamic scholastic center for higher learning," when all subjects from maths, to philosophy, to astrology, to sciences, to culture, to arts etc. were taught in Timbuktu? You're not making sense at all.

Also, was Malian empire built on the back of jihad - yes, or no?
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:02am On May 27, 2013
Yeah, I missed it grin
tpia@:
Did you miss where someone corrected you on dangote's ethnicity?

Shouldnt you stop arguing sometimes?
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 2:01am On May 27, 2013
Yes, you are right, we should blame CAF because Super Eagles have not gone to the World Cup. grin Your Timbuktu still remains a Muslim enclave. You only deny that at your own peril. Some of the most important features in Timbuktu may be of African architecture but they clearly serve an Islamic purpose abi you've forgotten Sankore Mosque ni? And in case you don't know, Timbuktu is a World Heritage Site today because of its Islamic influence. The World Heritage Committee in 1988 selected Timbuktu because of the following criteria:

Criterion II: Timbuktu's holy places were vital to early Islamization in Africa.
Criterion IV: Timbuktu's mosques show a cultural and scholarly Golden Age during the Songhay Empire.
Criterion V: The construction of the mosques, still mostly original, shows the use of traditional building techniques.

So, as you can see, your talk of Timbuktu as a 'scholastic centre for higher learning' is just Soyinka grammar. Unless you meant 'Islamic scholastic center for higher learning'. Yeah, I got this for you from Wiki: Timbuktu was a world centre of Islamic learning from the 13th to the 17th century, especially under the Mali Empire and Askia Mohammad I's rule. So, if you want to promote your black or white consciousness, leave Timbuktu out of it. Maybe you go southwards to Ngola. wink
shymexx: The question is: was that empire built on the back on Jihad - Yes, or no? And no, Timbuktu isn't a center of Islamic heritage - it's a scholastic centre for higher learning. Also, the architectures in Timbuktu are quintessentially African architectures. Can you show me anywhere else in Africa that looks like that? The only place with similar architectures is Nubia.

What's special about CAF? Comparing an influential man(Sekou Toure) who's among the top-20 greatest African people to walk this planet - to a CAF that's inconsequential is not just it. Do African even play professional football? Remind me when an African country gets to semi-finals or finals of the world cup. CAF is irrelevant!
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:53am On May 27, 2013
I still don't know where you got the strange idea of Fulanis not speaking Fulfulde from...lol! Each time you say that, I can't stop laughing. Do I have to count the number of states where Fulfulde is spoken to you ni?
shymexx: So because a white man labelled your people the most intelligent, I should also accept that, no?

If your people are so intelligent, how come you lot never built any civilisation nor contribute anything to African history? I bet the intelligence he was alluding to has to do with jocking cows and wandering everywhere like charvas, no? Get a life, son!

So intelligent, yet don't speak your gaddamn language. You lot don't even have a culture - you've been Islamised beyond redemption.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:38am On May 27, 2013
When (if) you are done insulting, we continue as before. Takia.
shymexx: No, the guy pissed me off with the name calling.

Anyway, I'm speaking for African historians and proud Africans in the world. I'm sure most people would frown at your title. Fulani's never contributed anything of note to African history but you lot always make them feel more important than they actually are - hence why the endless cycle of violence and air-of-superiority associated with them in Nigeria. No one rates them outside Nigeria - and that's a fact!!

Just stop this madness.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:34am On May 27, 2013
Do you know that I actually left out those ones, I came across them but because I wanted to emphasize on much more recent events, I left them out. Thank you for bringing it up. smiley
Bororojo: You probably do not know that there are some Fulani among the slaves transported to the Americas.....from Senegambia and Guinea.

Check the following.

AyuBa suleiman DIALLO

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/William_Hoare_of_Bath_-_Portrait_of_Ayuba_Suleiman_Diallo%2C_%281701-1773%29.jpg/487px-William_Hoare_of_Bath_-_Portrait_of_Ayuba_Suleiman_Diallo%2C_%281701-1773%29.jpg

Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori

[IMG]http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0001/2488/products/1326_Abdulrahman_Ibrahim_ibn_Sori_1_large.jpg?620[/img]

Yarrow Mamout

[img]http://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=IBRAHIM+IBN+SORI&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=9TgwBeUcxQnkKM&tbnid=iz_x6qDCMIfrkM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shawuniversitymosque.org%2FJTaqwa%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticlebox%26sid%3D24&ei=g6miUZ_OKcKA0AGvx4GYAw&psig=AFQjCNFecbL1I9JrArHDQGwdqiPGUd15gQ&ust=1369701080104426[/img]

among others.....
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:28am On May 27, 2013
Eeyah. Sorry. All this Latin?
shymexx: Who are you calling a fool, fvcking cow-jocking smelly Fulani duffer? How about go stick ya Fulani dyck in ya cow and stop quoting me if you've got nothing intelligent to say?

I reiterate: what did your non-achieving tribe of jihadists contribute to African history? If you can't provide answers - fvck off, git!!
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:27am On May 27, 2013
Okay, using the final instrument in your box ba: insults. You need to dam your mouth for calling my dear Afrika damn. Enjoy the fresh air outside. grin
shymexx: You lot are myopic lackeys. Stop disrespecting the damn continent with your stupidity.

Mandinka is a tribe/ethnic group!

I'm out!
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:25am On May 27, 2013
And Fulanis did not exist before the coming of Islam? My question is simple and straight: was your legendary Mansa Musa a Muslim king or not? Did he promote Islam or not? Did he and other Mansas turn Mali Empire into a bastion of Islam or not? Even if their father and founder of the empire, Sundiata Keita was not really a Muslim? And do I need to remind you that Timbuktu is known more as a center of Islamic heritage than a remnant of an African empire? All you see in Timbuktu are madrasas and mosques and no tangible African empire edifice (point out one if any). Therefore, your saying Mali was mainly an African empire holds no water after the death of Sundiata Keita. All his children reverted to Islam, and the influence remains till today. So, keep your black consciousness in your pocket. As for Sekou Toure, I should ask you when a Mandinka will head CAF, which a Fulani has been controlling for decades.
shymexx: Mali empire was quintessentially an African empire. Islam came later on. So you can't allude its greatness to Islam. However, Jihad is the Fulani's claim to fame. Peep the difference.

Mansa Musa is definitely on the top-200 list of the most influential people in history. Anyway, where's the Fulani's version of Sekou Toure? grin

Btw, Dangote is Hausa, not Fulani.

I don't have a problem with the Fulani's but after reading tons of articles about them, I'm yet to be impressed. I just think they're grossly overrated.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:13am On May 27, 2013
Yes, I agree with you on the Yorubas especially when we also consider their input in places like the Caribbean and Latin America. That's very true.
isale_gan2: OP, you are right about the Fula people.

Though, in terms of cultural influence of a Black African tribe, the Yorubas come to mind, as one African group whose language, traditions and religion span several continents.

But politically, the Fulanis are the only group that have translated their influence into real political power over SEVERAL (African) countries. Doing this, often despite their minority population and contrary to their origin as nomadic people.
CultureRe: The Fulanis, Africa's Most Influential Tribe by Abiyamo(op): 1:11am On May 27, 2013
People like Shymexx will prefer to ignore prominent Fulanis but take great delight in listing the various tribes and ethnicities in Africa, From Luos to Angas to show us they know African tribes, I guess that's why he is calling others myopic lackeys, funny dude....lol!
Bororojo: You are soo silly...mande are an Ethno-Linguistic group, Just like Bantu, Dravadian, Germanics and celts....But you probably dont realize that.

Fulanis are more Influential, Numerous and well known than Mandenka, or Bambara, etc.

from Issa Hayatou, to Ahijo to Yar'Adua to Macky Sall to Dan Fodio to Modibbo Adama, to Umar Tall.... even here within Nigeria i can count 4 governors off my fingers who are fulano, from Murtala Nyako to Isa Yuguda.
Fulanis make good Music, are good statesmen and Politicians, are good nomads, are great at Business {Fulanis dominate the business sphere in Guinea and Sierra Leone}, are good farmers, Are Kings and Emperors, ........

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