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Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 8:07pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: What demons? The Hebrew translation says "sons of Elohim" and you want to lie they were demons? I will report you to the Governing body of JW in USA. You should be excommunicated for telling lies! |
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 8:03pm On May 03 |
Akell: Nothing of course! Jesus will fight when he gets the opportunity and his military! |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 8:02pm On May 03 |
SIRTee15: I sabi adonai, adoni, Yahweh and Elohim! The Psalm 110 wey dey all the NTs I dey see na Adoni dey there! Probably the Bible translators translated nonsense for their audience! How many Christians read your Septuagint Bible? Na KJV most Christians died on! And we now know KJV get serious errors! |
Crime / Re: Young Lady Found Dead In Abuja (photos) by AbuTwins: 7:45pm On May 03 |
It was her time to die regardless of whatever killed her! 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:25pm On May 03 |
Steep: About Trinity you can join the thread if you are sure of your assertion! https://www.nairaland.com/8067594/abu-chats-two-christians-bible |
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 6:22pm On May 03 |
Akell:This is a lie! Not all of us have it.[/quote] Back to the discussion. Read the passage you quoted from verse 12. Jesus was telling a parable. So, he wasn't the one sanctioning that. So explain the parable. I have read the exegesis already it is war! Even if Jesus didn't kill. His father did! Shebi they are one and together in Trinity? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:20pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: Sons of God came to impregnate Daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4. Sons of God o! Are they begotten? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:19pm On May 03 |
Steep: It does remove some trinity verses! Trinity is false! |
Religion / God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 6:17pm On May 03 |
God is not a man! Anthropomorphism is false! Numbers 23:19: "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" 1 Samuel 15:29: "He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind." Hosea 11:9: "I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a human beingâthe Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities." Isaiah 40:18 To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him? Isaiah 44:6-20 Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: âI am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place... Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 âBut about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Isaiah 55:8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Psalm 50:21: "These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you." Job 9:32-33: "For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no arbiter between us, who might lay his hand on us both." So God is not man and can never become man! God does not change: Psalm 55:19 - "God will hear and answer themâEven the one who sits enthroned from of oldâ Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God." Malachi 3:6 - "For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed." So when did the Lord Change? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 5:42pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: What proof do you have that the disciples of Jesus wrote anything down? Luke says "Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word." Luke 1:1-2 Luke was not an appointed disciple! Many wrote the NT Books, the church father selected what fits their whims and desires! And you have the NT! |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 5:38pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: At least what they gave me has been proven to be consistent for over 1,400 years! Millions still memorize it today unlike one scripture that has several different corrupted translations! Hilarious indeed sir! |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 5:36pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: Jacob wrestled with God and won! Read Genesis 32 Jehovah witness Ignoramus! |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 5:33pm On May 03 |
SIRTee15:The name from the Old testament is Immanuel. But no one ever called Jesus by that name. All na lie! How can a name be revealed later when the Jews didn't read the NT? A Prophecy with no name! Na peak of idiocy be this bro! Bible illiterate. You sabi type nonsense mixed with lies. The life of Jesus was written in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and maybe Acts. Jesus was never in Revelations. And you know that is the truth! You even had to lie that there was no eye witness with the Prophet when Angel Gabriel visited him as a man in the popular Hadith in the presence of his companions! You sabi lie o! Jesus is the only person called son of man in heavenWe never reach heaven! Na earth we still dey! Is Jesus the only son of man in the Bible? Pls learn to interpret the old testament and new testament independently. That Jews believed in the Messiah doesn't mean they think the Messiah is Jesus.Jesus is the Messiah in the Qur'an, the messiah is the slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel (Qur'an 19:30--). So where is the wahala? No Jesus didn't forget, the disciple just couldn't handle too many info. He did forgot the hour too just as he forgot to tell you he was God and equal with the father! âBut about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 YHWH is translated as LORD in English bible. That verse clearly mentioned 2 YHWH. how is that possible? Thought YHWH is one!!!! New Living Translation puts the sentence appropriately Then the LORD rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah. The LORD mentioned twice was mere emphasis. But you guys always fish for trinity in the Bible Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (24) The Lord (Jehovah) rained . . . from the Lord (from Jehovah).--Many commentators, following the Council of Sirmium, see in this repetition of the name of Jehovah an indication of the Holy Trinity, as though God the Son rained down fire from God the Father. More correctly Calvin takes it as an emphatic reiteration of its being Jehovah's act. Jehovah had mysteriously manifested Himself upon earth by the visit of the three angels to Abraham, but His activity on earth is one with His willing in heaven. This is still proving the title of this thread correctly! There's always a council to deify Jesus! A council to deify the Spirit! Many Councils to fix things to the Bible! The Septuagint bible that wrote Adonai as second person in psalm 110 was written 250 yrs b4 birth of Jesus Christ. Of course the answer is clear! Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (1) The Lord said . . .--The usual prophetic phrase, generally translated, "Thus saith," &c. (See Note, Psalm 36:1.) The psalmist may possibly be quoting an old prophetic saying, but, according to the usual way in which the expression is used, it marks an immediate inspiration. My Lord.--Heb., adoni, an address of honour to those more noble than the speaker, or superior in rank: to a father, Genesis 31:35; to a brother, Numbers 12:11; a royal consort, 1Kings 1:17-18; to a prince, 1Kings 3:17; with addition of the royal title, "my Lord, O king," 2Samuel 14:19. . . . Once again you..... Go and read anthropomorphism and stop constituting nuisance here.God is unlike man! Na Councils brought about such theories! Jesus on earth wasn't physically God. Instead he's physically the son of God which means he has the same divinity as in the Father. Why would God need a son? Why would God share his divinity? So Jesus was 100% human and not God at all while on earth? If Jesus was truly the son of God, we'll have to find out how God gave birth to him? By reproduction, adoption or creation? But since Jesus still worshipped God and claimed he is going to his God who is our God then we'll still worship the God he worshipped not him! Allah already states clearly He begets not nor is He begotten! And Anthropomorphism does not work in Islam as regards God! |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 4:58pm On May 03 |
Emusan: Yes, you are right! Everything is represented in an ironic form! God is one (but interpreted as three in one). You don't need take me serious! |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 4:54pm On May 03 |
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 4:53pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: OK, show us who they were sent to in their Books? Ignoramus Grandpa! |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 4:52pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: You just edited whatever you want here! Na so JW deceit be? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 4:52pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: How are you sure his disciples penned anything down about him? And Paul wasn't a disciple to have written almost half of the New testament! |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:54pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: We have definition for Messengers and Prophets in Islam! 1. All Messengers are Prophets but not all Prophets are messengers! 2. A Messenger is one who is sent to a disbelieving people (e.g. Noah, Lot, Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad, etc, and the Prophet is one who is sent to a believing people with the laws of the Messenger who came before him, to teach them and judge between them. âVerily, We did send down the Tawraat (Torah) [to Moosa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allahâs Will, judged for the Jewsâ [Al-Maaâidah 5:44] How does your T.B Joshua qualify here? So who is a Prophet from the Bible? And show us how Charles Taze Russell qualifies? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:48pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: Yeah, i know even angels dey bleep women too in Genesis 6 vs 1-4 and since Jesus was an Angel/Son of God we are to suppose he was with them! According to God's word the promised Messiah (Christ) has been existing before the creation of the earth so he is not ordinary human like your prophet o! According to God's corrupted word! You agreed that at least there are copyist errors therein so correct your statement! There's no evidence Jesus pre-existed except a specially made retranslation done for Jesus! Jesus was 100% human only! 0% Angel! He forgot to tell us he was an angel even for once! |
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 3:42pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: You can add Charles Taze Russell to the lineage of Abraham then! I don't know how an elder would be kidding like this! The Governing bodies don destroy your brain finish! No be Israelites get Prophet! Abraham was not an Israelite! Likewise Noah! What God said in the Bible is that He is the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob (Israel) from this we know why no prophet has been raised from other children of Abraham and other child of Isaac because God stated clearly where He is going regarding prophethood! So Jehovah is not "God of Jesus" because Jehovah didn't say it right? Jeremiah 32:27 New International Version âI am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me? God is for all mankind not only relegated to Israel, Isaac or Abraham! You simply presented falsehood as usual. Genesis 21:13 And I will also make a great nation of the son of the slave woman, because he is your offspring." So why is the nation not written about? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:27pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: Muslims have nothing to do with the Jehovah witness's Jesus wey be Angel, son of man, son of God, etc! Angels no dey chop! Jesus chop! Angels are not born by human! Jesus was given birth to! JW is full of heresies! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:24pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: I go report you for derailing the thread o! Why is it difficult for you to create your thread? |
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 3:23pm On May 03 |
Akell:Na you write am? Why are you scared of context? You can't just read a verse and understand it's meaning, read a chapter before and a chapter after to understand what's being said.When Christians copy works of orientalists and other bigots there's no need wasting too much time on them. So, bring it on. I mean, where Jesus commanded all of these things? I dey with you. Jesus didn't have time! Na just three years he used and he wasn't militarized like the Biblical Moses, Joshua, Saul, Samson, etc! However, he still proposed war and death to his enemies! And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.ââ Luke 19:27 |
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 3:17pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: Ishmael is the first born of Abraham! So whatever they like make them write! We believe in Ishmael and Isaac both as Prophets of Allah! We believe Jesus too was a Prophet of Allah after John and before Muhammad! May the peace of Allah be on them all! |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:15pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: Muhammad's legacy still exists in Saudi Arabia! Israel only inherited the violence of the Old testament! The Qur'an existed during Muhammad's era! He did proof-read it many times! The Bible especially the NT was written mostly by unknown figures decades later after Jesus! Israel has more Muslims than Christians in population! How can you compare? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:10pm On May 03 |
MaxInDHouse: It is not the same! I will explain why and hope you'll follow and not ask the question again! The salvation of the Muslims during Jesus's time and in those 570 years does not depend on Jesus's death or resurrection! Even if they believed Jesus died or not it doesn't matter! What matters is their belief in God as one and the worship of the one God alone in truth! So anyone who believes in God and submits wholly to Him alone through any of the Prophets is always a Muslim at any point in time! So can you tell us why Jehovah had to wait about 1914 years before sending JW? What is the fate of those who have died in those 1914 years? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:02pm On May 03 |
Steep: It is not minor errors! These are five out of the many examples of verses that have been changed or modified in newer translations like the Revised Standard Version (RSV) or New International Version (NIV) compared to the King James Version (KJV), along with brief reasons for the changes: 1. Matthew 6:13: KJV: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." RSV, NIV: This part is omitted in many modern translations as it is not found in some of the earliest manuscripts. 2. Acts 8:37: KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in many modern translations due to textual variations in early manuscripts. And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God 3. 1 John 5:7-8: KJV: Contains the "Johannine Comma" ("For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." which is missing in modern translations as it is not found in early Greek manuscripts. New International Version For there are three that testify: New Living Translation So we have these three witnessesâ English Standard Version For there are three that testify: 4. Mark 16:9-20: KJV: The ending of Mark's Gospel in the KJV includes verses 9-20, but many modern translations note that these verses are absent in some of the oldest manuscripts. 5. Luke 17:36: KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in modern translations due to textual uncertainties and variations in manuscripts. This shows how varied the Bible could be according to particular translations! |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:00pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: I no be Muhammadan! I be Muslim! Stop the lie! Call me what is in the Qur'an appropriately! How was the virginity test done to get virgins for your Lord ? |
Politics / Re: Charly Boy Slams Reno Omokri by AbuTwins: 2:58pm On May 03 |
Alhajikd: By men you mean Charly boy, you and your Dad? |
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 2:57pm On May 03 |
Aemmyjah: So why derailing the thread then if you sabi the answer? According to Koran, where does your reproductive fluid come fromYou miss thread! The thread is The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript! I no fit come dey ask you about the Governing council of Jehovah witness now! |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 1:32pm On May 03 |
SIRTee15:Of course you can stop responding to me. When you look for anything in the Jewish scriptures to prove that Jesus died things that were not believed by the Jews themselves! This clown doesn't know Jesus called himself the first and the last in the new testament.Where did Jesus call himself so in the Gospels? Jesus didn't appear in Revelations. Probably John was dreaming! And Paul has said Satan masquerades as angel of light! John and Paul were really seeing Satan! Actually, Jesus never spoke those words while alive and that is clear! Where did Jesus call himself so in the Gospels? Another stupid question. No he mentioned Muhammed.So Jesus is the only son of man in the Bible? Daniel 7. 13 is a messianic prophesy. Even Jews consider it a messianic prophesy. The son of man described in the passage is the Messiah.So why did the Jews label Jesus a criminal and a bastard if the prophecy was about him? And Jesus was called like the son of man again when John while in the spirit saw Jesus in heaven. Abeg no dey mention Revelations to me again as no be dream i dey discuss here! Jesus forgot to mention he was the first and last before them kill am for Bible? Jesus did forgot to appoint Paul too? There are so many things he forgot! Go and read anthropomorphism my friend. Learn theology and stop talking like an ignorant person. How does this mean Yahweh is two or three? New International Version Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrahâfrom the LORD out of the heavens. New Living Translation Then the LORD rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah. English Standard Version Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the LORD out of heaven. The Jews believe both psalm 110 and Daniel 7.13 are both messianic prophesies describing a divine Messiah.It is adoni here! Na NT change am! Stop the lie! Septuagint our oldest extant bible manuscript written 250 BC wrote it as Adonai meaning another name for God.You must translate and retranslate to make Jesus God! You are proving me to be correct! This is your dum.best statement ever. Its like U don't read b4 typing. Must you always tell lies like this? How many visions of God on throne do we have in the Bible? Are they figurative too? đ„±đ„±đ„± What's my one if U answer it or not. You sabi lie bro, i will give that to you! You did prove me right sha! A Christian has to retranslate verses to derive a divine Jesus! There's actually no verse Jesus called himself God! Na Exegesis and Eisegesis reward you with the Nicene creed! |
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