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Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 8:07pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:


Lol
They were demons who took up human flesh
Don't you have sense
How could Muhammad have communicated with Gabriel

What demons?

The Hebrew translation says "sons of Elohim" and you want to lie they were demons?

I will report you to the Governing body of JW in USA.

You should be excommunicated for telling lies!
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 8:03pm On May 03
Akell:


You just said you have read the exegesis. Hat else do you want me to explain to you?

Nothing of course!

Jesus will fight when he gets the opportunity and his military!
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 8:02pm On May 03
SIRTee15:


So what we doing now is just back and forth which would never end. At this junction it's pointless.

But I will like to teach u some basic things about the bible and theology because it shows u deficient in knowledge in some aspect and U confusing things up and down.

The word lord.
Now this word is used in three different ways in the bible. The English bible substituted some Hebrew word with lord for easier comprehension and usage, and will discuss it here...

LORD- when U see LORD in the English bible, it's the word for YHWH. The Hebrew bible will have YHWH in those places.

Lord- this word is for Adonai, another name of God in the bible. Lord is not used for anyone else in the bible except God. The tanakh will have Adonai in places English bible writes Lord.

lord- adoni is simply master. This is for humans and never used for God in the bible.

Now the Septuagint bible written by Jews and not Christians in 250 BC which is 250 yrs b4 any Christian was born used the word Lord for the 2nd person in psalm 110.
So psalm 110 verse 1 in Septuagint will read ' YHWH said unto my adonai' Both are names for God alone.

The Jews in the 2nd temple Judaism believe. Psalm 110 is messianic prophecy for a divine Messiah. The Christians built on this and said Jesus is the divine Messiah talked about in psalm 110 since Jesus spoke about it.

Now when the rabbinical Jews complied the Masoretic text now the official hebrew bible in 900AD, they claimed the word is lord and not Lord.
Thus psalm 110.1 in Hebrew bible read 'YHWH said unto my master'.

The rabbinical Jews admitted the psalm is about the Messiah but now rejected a divine Messiah. Instead they insist the Messiah is just a normal human being and not a divine person.

This shows it's the Jews that have changed their understanding of psalm 110 possible influenced by Christian claim of Jesus fulfilling verses like psalm 110.

This explanation is not for argument but to give u and Christians historical context to psalm 110.

Your argument that it was Christians that changed the verse is invalid and not congruent with historical context .


I sabi adonai, adoni, Yahweh and Elohim!
The Psalm 110 wey dey all the NTs I dey see na Adoni dey there!

Probably the Bible translators translated nonsense for their audience!

How many Christians read your Septuagint Bible?

Na KJV most Christians died on!
And we now know KJV get serious errors!
Crime / Re: Young Lady Found Dead In Abuja (photos) by AbuTwins: 7:45pm On May 03
cool

It was her time to die regardless of whatever killed her!

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Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:25pm On May 03
Steep:
It does not, at all. There are tons of scripture that support the Trinity.

About Trinity you can join the thread if you are sure of your assertion!

https://www.nairaland.com/8067594/abu-chats-two-christians-bible
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 6:22pm On May 03
Akell:


😂
You know what? Almost every Muslim has a Bible. Why? With the sole aim of critiquing it. All your Imams have this Holy Book.
This is a lie!

Not all of us have it.[/quote]


Back to the discussion. Read the passage you quoted from verse 12. Jesus was telling a parable. So, he wasn't the one sanctioning that.

Note that he's not a violent man. He's a not a rapist, he does not keep women for sex, he nebyer killed. Even if he had lived a 100 years, he could never have done any of the abominable things your prophet did.

So explain the parable. I have read the exegesis already it is war!
Even if Jesus didn't kill.
His father did!
Shebi they are one and together in Trinity?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:20pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:



I guess your koran, a book inspired of wicked jinn that pinned down Muhammad, is teaching you that angels are God shey


Koran says stars are shooting angels
Sun sets on muddy water
Such a book!

Sons of God came to impregnate Daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4.

Sons of God o! Are they begotten? grin
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 6:19pm On May 03
Steep:
It is still minor as it does not change the overall message of the passage.

It does remove some trinity verses!

Trinity is false!
Religion / God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 6:17pm On May 03
God is not a man! Anthropomorphism is false!

Numbers 23:19:
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"

1 Samuel 15:29:
"He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind."

Hosea 11:9:
"I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a human being—the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities."

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Isaiah 55:8-9:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Psalm 50:21:
"These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."

Job 9:32-33:
"For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no arbiter between us, who might lay his hand on us both."

So God is not man and can never become man!

God does not change:

Psalm 55:19 -
"God will hear and answer them—Even the one who sits enthroned from of old— Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God."

Malachi 3:6 -
"For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."

So when did the Lord Change?

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Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 5:42pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:

Books are written by people so it's not about books rather followers who can write anything and claim anything after they're gone just as your Arabs are saying different things about their muhammed and going about fighting to kill whoever refuses to accept their guy. smiley

What proof do you have that the disciples of Jesus wrote anything down?

Luke says "Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word." Luke 1:1-2

Luke was not an appointed disciple! Many wrote the NT Books, the church father selected what fits their whims and desires! And you have the NT!
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 5:38pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


You see what i mean? grin



That's to say you only believe what your Arab people wrote in their own book about a Jewish man simply because they claim their guy is a prophet from the same God.

Hilarious indeed! cheesy

At least what they gave me has been proven to be consistent for over 1,400 years!
Millions still memorize it today unlike one scripture that has several different corrupted translations!
Hilarious indeed sir! grin
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 5:36pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:



See how delusional you can be
Pained people resort to lies
Your ignorance is too much
Typical message from a jihadist

A prophet caused so much havoc in his time, nemesis caught up with him
He prayed for forgiveness in his dying moments
His family perished too
Such a blessed prophet indeed

Jacob wrestled with God and won!
Read Genesis 32
Jehovah witness Ignoramus!
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 5:33pm On May 03
SIRTee15:


Good, the Jews were awaiting the Messiah, that's what the old testament is about. The name of Jesus was revealed as the Messiah in the new testament NOT the old testament.
Looking for the name of Jesus in the old testament is plain idiocy.
The name from the Old testament is Immanuel. But no one ever called Jesus by that name. All na lie!

How can a name be revealed later when the Jews didn't read the NT? A Prophecy with no name!
Na peak of idiocy be this bro!

Bible illiterate.
What's the gospel - the good news of Jesus is the gospel. These are words spoken by Jesus Christ.
When U open the New testament scriptures, the words mark in red letters are the gospel. These are the words of Jesus.
These are found in the gospels of mark, Matthew, John, Luke; also the acts of apostle and the book of revelation.

Its your business if U think vision doesn't count. Yet want us to accept the vision of Muhammed as true and genuine. That's serious mental gymnastics in display.
Muhammed never saw any of the patriarch face to face, never saw God face to face. No evidence he spoke to an angel. Everything he gave u guys were his own words.
Have U ever thought he could be psychotic and saying things made up in his schizophrenic mind.

At least people with Paul saw the light and confirmed hearing sound from heaven. They witnessed a supernatural encounter.
Moreover, after the encounter, God sent a prophet named Ananias to open Paul's blind eyes and assure him he's now an apostle of Christ.

U guys don't have anything close to above as evidence of Muhammed's prophethood.
What U have is a violent spirit smashing Muhammad to the ground n a Unitarian Christian called waraka telling Muhammad he's a prophet and promised to teach him the scripture
No eye witness to corroborate the truth about Muhammed. None, if that doesn't sound like a scam I don't know what else to tell U.

You sabi type nonsense mixed with lies. The life of Jesus was written in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and maybe Acts. Jesus was never in Revelations. And you know that is the truth!

You even had to lie that there was no eye witness with the Prophet when Angel Gabriel visited him as a man in the popular Hadith in the presence of his companions! You sabi lie o!

Jesus is the only person called son of man in heaven
We never reach heaven! Na earth we still dey! Is Jesus the only son of man in the Bible?

Pls learn to interpret the old testament and new testament independently. That Jews believed in the Messiah doesn't mean they think the Messiah is Jesus.

Its U Muslims are the ones that merged both together. That's why if I ask U now why is jesus the Messiah in the Qur'an, na another wahala be dat.
Jesus is the Messiah in the Qur'an, the messiah is the slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel (Qur'an 19:30--). So where is the wahala?

No Jesus didn't forget, the disciple just couldn't handle too many info.
John 16.12
“I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.

He did forgot the hour too just as he forgot to tell you he was God and equal with the father!

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32

YHWH is translated as LORD in English bible. That verse clearly mentioned 2 YHWH. how is that possible? Thought YHWH is one!!!!

New Living Translation puts the sentence appropriately
Then the LORD rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah.

The LORD mentioned twice was mere emphasis.

But you guys always fish for trinity in the Bible
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(24) The Lord (Jehovah) rained . . . from the Lord (from Jehovah).--Many commentators, following the Council of Sirmium, see in this repetition of the name of Jehovah an indication of the Holy Trinity, as though God the Son rained down fire from God the Father. More correctly Calvin takes it as an emphatic reiteration of its being Jehovah's act. Jehovah had mysteriously manifested Himself upon earth by the visit of the three angels to Abraham, but His activity on earth is one with His willing in heaven.

This is still proving the title of this thread correctly! There's always a council to deify Jesus! A council to deify the Spirit! Many Councils to fix things to the Bible!

The Septuagint bible that wrote Adonai as second person in psalm 110 was written 250 yrs b4 birth of Jesus Christ.
So I dont understand the Christian lens U talking about
The writers of the gospel quoted from the Septuagint which rightly said 'THe LORD said unto my Lord'
The Masoretic written 900 yrs after Jesus Christ insisted the word was lord.
So which one was biased and may have been influenced by the Christian lens.
The answer is clear.


Of course the answer is clear!

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(1) The Lord said . . .--The usual prophetic phrase, generally translated, "Thus saith," &c. (See Note, Psalm 36:1.)
The psalmist may possibly be quoting an old prophetic saying, but, according to the usual way in which the expression is used, it marks an immediate inspiration.

My Lord.--Heb., adoni, an address of honour to those more noble than the speaker, or superior in rank: to a father, Genesis 31:35; to a brother, Numbers 12:11; a royal consort, 1Kings 1:17-18; to a prince, 1Kings 3:17; with addition of the royal title, "my Lord, O king," 2Samuel 14:19. . . .

Once again you..... lipsrsealed

Go and read anthropomorphism and stop constituting nuisance here.
God is unlike man! Na Councils brought about such theories!

Jesus on earth wasn't physically God. Instead he's physically the son of God which means he has the same divinity as in the Father.
That's why I've asking U multiple times- if Jesus is truly the son of God should he be worshipped.
The answer to above question will definitely end this debate.

Why would God need a son?
Why would God share his divinity?
So Jesus was 100% human and not God at all while on earth?
If Jesus was truly the son of God, we'll have to find out how God gave birth to him? By reproduction, adoption or creation?
But since Jesus still worshipped God and claimed he is going to his God who is our God then we'll still worship the God he worshipped not him!

Allah already states clearly He begets not nor is He begotten!
And Anthropomorphism does not work in Islam as regards God!
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 4:58pm On May 03
Emusan:


Look at @color part, read it slowly and focus on @underline part, then tell me why I should take you serious.

The funny thing is, this thread is about how some WORDS were misinterpreted (i.e given wrong meanings according to you) meanwhile that's exactly what you did.

Yes, you are right!

Everything is represented in an ironic form!
God is one (but interpreted as three in one).

You don't need take me serious!
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 4:54pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:



But angel fit choke Muhammad inside cave?

Jacob fought your God and won!

So keep shut!
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 4:53pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


You're just trying to be cunning and it won't work with me.

It's either all other nations also must produce prophets since God is for all or only Israelites produce prophets as Abraham Isaac and Jacob were mentioned as the lineage in the Bible.

Remember that we are all descendants of Noah so T.B Joshua, T.O Obadare, Chukwu Emeka Odumeje are also prophets of the same God.
Which one do you prefer? undecided

OK, show us who they were sent to in their Books? grin
Ignoramus Grandpa!
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 4:52pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted has said it all in Islam so your criteria doesn't apply to all religions.


Charles Taze Russell can only be a prophet if you agree with me that all those claiming prophets are prophets too but if not then count him out! smiley

You just edited whatever you want here!
Na so JW deceit be?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 4:52pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:

Do you believe what his disciples penned down about him? smiley

How are you sure his disciples penned anything down about him?

And Paul wasn't a disciple to have written almost half of the New testament!
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:54pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Guy prophet nah prophet as long as some people believe in them.
So it's your own opinion that disqualify others not a general view applicable to everyone.
If you want to claim that Muhammad is also a prophet of God then no discrimination all those claiming prophets are also prophets in their own realm!

We have definition for Messengers and Prophets in Islam!

1. All Messengers are Prophets but not all Prophets are messengers!
2. A Messenger is one who is sent to a disbelieving people (e.g. Noah, Lot, Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad, etc, and the Prophet is one who is sent to a believing people with the laws of the Messenger who came before him, to teach them and judge between them.

“Verily, We did send down the Tawraat (Torah) [to Moosa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah’s Will, judged for the Jews” [Al-Maa’idah 5:44]

How does your T.B Joshua qualify here?

So who is a Prophet from the Bible?
And show us how Charles Taze Russell qualifies?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:48pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Guy that's why i told you your story book has nothing to do with the Bible!

Angels chop what Abraham's wife cooked o! Genesis 18:8

Yeah, i know even angels dey bleep women too in Genesis 6 vs 1-4 and since Jesus was an Angel/Son of God we are to suppose he was with them! grin

According to God's word the promised Messiah (Christ) has been existing before the creation of the earth so he is not ordinary human like your prophet o! smiley

According to God's corrupted word! You agreed that at least there are copyist errors therein so correct your statement!
There's no evidence Jesus pre-existed except a specially made retranslation done for Jesus!

Jesus was 100% human only!
0% Angel! grin

He forgot to tell us he was an angel even for once!
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 3:42pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Muhammed is no part of God's prophets his people can patch him along with Israelite prophets in their own story book but since he is not a descendant of Jacob then he's out as in on his own!

You can add Charles Taze Russell to the lineage of Abraham then!
I don't know how an elder would be kidding like this!

The Governing bodies don destroy your brain finish!

No be Israelites get Prophet! Abraham was not an Israelite! Likewise Noah!

What God said in the Bible is that He is the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob (Israel) from this we know why no prophet has been raised from other children of Abraham and other child of Isaac because God stated clearly where He is going regarding prophethood! smiley

So Jehovah is not "God of Jesus" because Jehovah didn't say it right?

Jeremiah 32:27
New International Version
“I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?

God is for all mankind not only relegated to Israel, Isaac or Abraham! You simply presented falsehood as usual.

Genesis 21:13
And I will also make a great nation of the son of the slave woman, because he is your offspring."

So why is the nation not written about?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:27pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


So Muslims have nothing to do with Jesus! undecided

Muslims have nothing to do with the Jehovah witness's Jesus wey be Angel, son of man, son of God, etc!

Angels no dey chop!

Jesus chop!

Angels are not born by human! Jesus was given birth to!

JW is full of heresies!

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Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:24pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:


What the Koran says about the reproductive fluid from man
Is it accurate or not?

I go report you for derailing the thread o!

Why is it difficult for you to create your thread?
Religion / Re: Prophethood in doubt: Irreconcilable Accounts Of Mohammed's Life by AbuTwins: 3:23pm On May 03
Akell:


Well, I'm an academician so I write like one.
Na you write am? grin

Why are you scared of context? You can't just read a verse and understand it's meaning, read a chapter before and a chapter after to understand what's being said.
When Christians copy works of orientalists and other bigots there's no need wasting too much time on them.

So, bring it on. I mean, where Jesus commanded all of these things? I dey with you.
However, respond to the footnotes fess

Jesus didn't have time! Na just three years he used and he wasn't militarized like the Biblical Moses, Joshua, Saul, Samson, etc!

However, he still proposed war and death to his enemies!
And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27
Religion / Re: Which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient? by AbuTwins: 3:17pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:

That's their own story it has nothing to do with the Israelites and if they do you supposed to have it as the genealogy of the Ishmaelites the Israelites have their own twin brother Esau the Edomites so how do you expect them to cross that one and start thinking of Ishmael?

Ishmael is the first born of Abraham!
So whatever they like make them write!

We believe in Ishmael and Isaac both as Prophets of Allah!
We believe Jesus too was a Prophet of Allah after John and before Muhammad!

May the peace of Allah be on them all!
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:15pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Guy they claim prophet too so if you don't want to compare them with Jesus then don't compare your muhammed with Jesus. Period! smiley

Muhammad's legacy still exists in Saudi Arabia!

Israel only inherited the violence of the Old testament!

The Qur'an existed during Muhammad's era! He did proof-read it many times!

The Bible especially the NT was written mostly by unknown figures decades later after Jesus!

Israel has more Muslims than Christians in population!

How can you compare?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:10pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Your muhammed was born 570 years after Jesus so if your Allah could wait till then before sending your muhammed then there's no need querying Jehovah for waiting till now! smiley

It is not the same!
I will explain why and hope you'll follow and not ask the question again!

The salvation of the Muslims during Jesus's time and in those 570 years does not depend on Jesus's death or resurrection!
Even if they believed Jesus died or not it doesn't matter!

What matters is their belief in God as one and the worship of the one God alone in truth!
So anyone who believes in God and submits wholly to Him alone through any of the Prophets is always a Muslim at any point in time!

So can you tell us why Jehovah had to wait about 1914 years before sending JW?
What is the fate of those who have died in those 1914 years?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:02pm On May 03
Steep:
actually the manuscript used by kjv and the ones found later has little or no difference, just minute difference. The use of "grave errors" to describe kjv by the translators of rsv is uncalled for and overstretched, the reason they believed kjv contains errors is because of English used by kjv is ancient and many words cannot be properly understood in the modern context.
As for that verse you said there was contradictions there were no contradiction and I repeat the kjv and some few translations are closer to the word for word translation.


It is not minor errors!

These are five out of the many examples of verses that have been changed or modified in newer translations like the Revised Standard Version (RSV) or New International Version (NIV) compared to the King James Version (KJV), along with brief reasons for the changes:

1. Matthew 6:13:
KJV: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen."
RSV, NIV: This part is omitted in many modern translations as it is not found in some of the earliest manuscripts.

2. Acts 8:37:
KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in many modern translations due to textual variations in early manuscripts.
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God

3. 1 John 5:7-8:
KJV: Contains the "Johannine Comma" ("For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."wink which is missing in modern translations as it is not found in early Greek manuscripts.

New International Version
For there are three that testify:

New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses—

English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:

4. Mark 16:9-20:
KJV: The ending of Mark's Gospel in the KJV includes verses 9-20, but many modern translations note that these verses are absent in some of the oldest manuscripts.

5. Luke 17:36:
KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in modern translations due to textual uncertainties and variations in manuscripts.

This shows how varied the Bible could be according to particular translations!
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by AbuTwins: 3:00pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:


Well
As a Muhammadan, a virgin to you should be someone less than 6 years shey

I no be Muhammadan!
I be Muslim!
Stop the lie!
Call me what is in the Qur'an appropriately!

How was the virginity test done to get virgins for your Lord grin?
Politics / Re: Charly Boy Slams Reno Omokri by AbuTwins: 2:58pm On May 03
Alhajikd:

I don't exchange words with mad men

By men you mean Charly boy, you and your Dad?
Religion / Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 2:57pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:



Na me write Bible or na me born am
grin

So why derailing the thread then if you sabi the answer?

According to Koran, where does your reproductive fluid come from
You miss thread! The thread is The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript!

I no fit come dey ask you about the Governing council of Jehovah witness now!
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by AbuTwins: 1:32pm On May 03
SIRTee15:

If U actually serious about looking for Jesus name in the old testament, then don't mention me again. I'm not here to debate an unserious clown and a time waster.
Of course you can stop responding to me. When you look for anything in the Jewish scriptures to prove that Jesus died things that were not believed by the Jews themselves!

This clown doesn't know Jesus called himself the first and the last in the new testament.


Revelation 22
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13[b] I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.[/b]
14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”



I know Allah also called himself the first and the last in the Koran. So my question is why is Allah stealing Jesus divine title?
Where did Jesus call himself so in the Gospels? Jesus didn't appear in Revelations. Probably John was dreaming! And Paul has said Satan masquerades as angel of light! John and Paul were really seeing Satan!

Actually, Jesus never spoke those words while alive and that is clear!


Where did Jesus call himself so in the Gospels? Another stupid question. No he mentioned Muhammed.
So Jesus is the only son of man in the Bible?

Daniel 7. 13 is a messianic prophesy. Even Jews consider it a messianic prophesy. The son of man described in the passage is the Messiah.
So why did the Jews label Jesus a criminal and a bastard if the prophecy was about him?

And Jesus was called like the son of man again when John while in the spirit saw Jesus in heaven.

Revelation 1

12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.


Jesus is like the son of man in heaven!!! confirming what was written in Daniel 7.13
And another verse where Jesus called himself the first and the Last- take note.

Abeg no dey mention Revelations to me again as no be dream i dey discuss here! Jesus forgot to mention he was the first and last before them kill am for Bible? Jesus did forgot to appoint Paul too? There are so many things he forgot!


Go and read anthropomorphism my friend. Learn theology and stop talking like an ignorant person.
I leave u with this verse in Genesis to chew on.

Genesis 19.
24 Then the YAHWEH rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from YAHWEH out of the heavens.


Here we can see YHWH on earth calling on YHWH in heaven. So how many YHWH do we have in the old testament?
Remember the Jews who compiled the old testament believe in only one YHWH.

How does this mean Yahweh is two or three?

New International Version
Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens.

New Living Translation
Then the LORD rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah.

English Standard Version
Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the LORD out of heaven.


The Jews believe both psalm 110 and Daniel 7.13 are both messianic prophesies describing a divine Messiah.
The word adonai is another title for God while adoni is master which is for humans. There's biblical scholarly debate whether the word used originally is Adonai or adoni.
It is adoni here! Na NT change am! Stop the lie!

Septuagint our oldest extant bible manuscript written 250 BC wrote it as Adonai meaning another name for God.
The Masoretic text which is the official Hebrew bible written 900AD claim it's adoni- master.
I dont want to go into debate on this adonai/adoni....but the point is the Lord/lord in psalm 110 is referred to as the Messiah by 2nd temple
judaism.
This person cannot be an ordinary human because the passage described him as a king and a priest simultaneously who will reign forever.
He is described as someone after the order of Melchizedek who we know to be a priest forever and has no end or beginning. These are divine attributes.
No matter how U twist it the person sitting on the right hand is a divine being- there's no 2 way about it.
That's why 2nd temple Jews call him divine Messiah.
You must translate and retranslate to make Jesus God!
You are proving me to be correct!

This is your dum.best statement ever. Its like U don't read b4 typing.
Do U understand the meaning of figure is speech at all or we are to assume U didn't have adequate formal education enough to decipher metaphorical statement.
Or should I ask U...did U go to university?
I clearly explained to U what sitting at the right hand of God meant- having same honour and status as God. I even brought a screenshot as evidence.
Yet U came here with literal understanding of the phrase.
God is a spirit, he has no hand and doesn't sit. He's not Allah. Get that right.
That why I told U to go and read anthropomorphism in order understand visions in the bible

NOW SAY AFTER ME, SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND IS A JEWISH TRADITION FIGURE OF SPEECH MEANING HAVING SAME STATUS AND HONOUR.


That's why the priest and Pharisees were mad when Jesus used that word during his trial. It was blasphemy!!!

Matthew 26

The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

64 “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

65 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. 66 What do you think?”

“He is worthy of death,” they answered.

Must you always tell lies like this? How many visions of God on throne do we have in the Bible?
Are they figurative too?


đŸ„±đŸ„±đŸ„± What's my one if U answer it or not.
As if I can't go to surah 42.81 and bring the embarrassing verse her for people to read what U Muslims are hiding.

I will continue to harass U Muslims with that verse until the contradiction of that verse is perfected in your skulls.
That verse is a clear prove your Allah is polytheistic in thinking.
Imagine saying he doesn't mind sharing his glory and divinity with another being if such person actually exist.
Chai....Muslims have been defrauded.

You sabi lie bro, i will give that to you!
You did prove me right sha!
A Christian has to retranslate verses to derive a divine Jesus!

There's actually no verse Jesus called himself God!

Na Exegesis and Eisegesis reward you with the Nicene creed!

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