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DeepSight:
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What about the rights of little girls not to be forced into child marriage with aged men?

DatNiggaDaz:


What a joke taken too far. 4 years wasted and some are expecting all these at the end of the fake certificate holder's OTP tenure

YourKarma:
After Tinunu's tenure, let me see any yoruba man who will come here and try to talk against bad governance

dapelua:
And your country is on fire.,... bandit they operate everywhere, no light, bad economy, Nigeria leaders are so wicked.

lilvicky68:
Country is in shambles these fools are smiling.

Expanse2020:
But did you those wives you were saying they weren't marry as young but mostly had there own children before they married Rossulullah...

Kobojunkie:
Stop wasting time on meaningless rambles then and answer me... Why should I forget the deeds of the man towards his own wives and slaves-- he looked down on women, had his own wives as property instructing that no man marry any of them resulting in all 9 of them not ever having kids even after his death according to Islam lore---to concern myself only with what you regard as his last sermons? 🥱🥱

Does this sermon change his deeds and pronouncements regarding women that hold to this day as part of Islamic tradition? 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
@AbuTwins,
This is wrong! What is written in Genesis is instead that man was alone— not lonely,note the difference. Adam was the only man who was ever alone on this planet by virtue of being the first that was created. And the helper fit for him was a clone of Adam. Eve was cloned from Adam down to the DNA, and as such, probably had many of the temperaments and tendencies that Adam himself had— she was fit for him. Eve was not created as a subhuman or lower than Adam. Rather, she was created from Adam to fit with him in all ways. No other man on this planet after Adam compares in any way, except Jesus Christ of Israel, maybe, since he was born of no father. And she was the only clone ever made for any man.

2. Islam says those words; however does the complete opposite is the problem here. No woman feels treated well when
➜ She has been covered up from childhood as though her body is something for her to be ashamed of being born with

➜ She is told that she has to live her life as a second-class citizen on the same planet she was born into, with others who happen to simply have different plumbing than she does

➜ She has to have Allah, Mohammedan, her father, brothers, and all other Mohammedans in her business, monitoring her every move, decision, and progress in life

➜ She has to settle for less in life than a man whom she calls her husband can
➜ She has no right to make decisions for her own life and well-being
➜ She has no right to even her own body to decide when or when not to have sex

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Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.I can go on, but the point here is that Islam says to treat women well, and then Islam goes on to treat women no better than dogs and donkeys are treated in Islam. That is terrible.

3. You have never read the books of the Torah and the Injeel, have you? You have never read where Jesus Christ of Israel enjoins that in his nation, all men(brothers) and women(sisters) are equals— everything that applies to a man applies equally to a woman? 🥱

FaAbData:
Answer me first

Kobojunkie:
@AbuTwins, are you being serious here? Why should I google any such? Of what relevance does that have to this particular topic or issue? 🥱🥱
The Quran and the Hadiths document Mohammed's treatment of women during his lifetime, and apart from his first wife, who was both his employer and benefactor— she died before Mohammed revealed this other side of him towards women—, no other woman experienced this supposed benevolence you claim Islam has towards women. To Mohammed, women were merely tools for the purpose and pleasure of men. His words regarding them, going as far as to claim their intelligence is questionable and that their witness is half that of a man, speak volumes regarding the kind of man Mohammed was, and the sort of heart he had towards women.

ChristCee:
Stop trying to rewrite history with half-truths. Let us open the books and see who really values women.

You made a lot of claims, but you conveniently left out the parts of your own books (Quran and Hadith) that contradict your "women's rights" narrative. You claim Christianity subordinates women while Islam honors them? Let's check the receipts.

1. The "Rib" Argument vs. Creation You claimed the Bible's "rib" account implies secondary status while Islam's "single soul" implies equality. This is a massive distortion.

The Bible: Genesis 1:27 explicitly states: “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.” From day one, women bear the Image of God just as men do. The "rib" in Genesis 2 signifies they are of the same substance—bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh.

Islam: You forgot to mention that your own Prophet explicitly used the "rib" to describe women as "crooked." “Treat women well, for woman is created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is its upper portion... if you try to straighten it, you will break it.” (Sahih al-Bukhari 3331) So the Bible uses the rib to show unity of substance, while your Hadith uses it to say women are inherently crooked and cannot be fully straightened.

2. Spiritual Equality vs "Deficiency" You claimed Islam regards women as full moral beings with equal standing.

The Bible: The New Testament introduced radical equality that didn't exist in the culture at the time. Galatians 3:28: “There is neither Jew nor Gentile... nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

3. Treatment: Sacrificial Love vs Beating You quoted Quran 2:228 about rights, but you ignored Surah 4:34 which serves as the legal framework for domestic discipline.

The Bible: Ephesians 5:25 sets an impossible standard for men: “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” The Christian command is for a man to DIE for his wife.

Islam: The Quran explicitly gives men the authority to beat their wives. “...But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance... forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them.” (Quran 4:34) Please tell me how "striking them" is an honor?

4. Women in Scripture and Witness You shouted that there are no women authors in the Bible. This is a weak argument that backfires on you.

The validity of the Christian faith rests entirely on the testimony of WOMEN. In the 1st century, a woman's testimony was not accepted in Jewish or Roman court. Yet, God chose Mary Magdalene and other women to be the first witnesses to the Resurrection. If the Bible were a "patriarchal fabrication," the men would have written themselves as the first witnesses to be credible. God honored women by making them the first preachers of the Gospel.

Compare this to Islam: [list] []In Islamic law, a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man (Quran 2:282). []In Inheritance, the male gets the portion of two females (Quran 4:11). [*]Your Prophet said: "I was shown Hell and I saw that the majority of its dwellers were women." (Sahih al-Bukhari 3241) [/list]

Christianity liberated women from being property and made them joint-heirs with Christ (1 Peter 3:7). Islam codified their inequality in inheritance, witness, and legal rights.

Next time, quote the whole book, not just the parts that sound nice to Westerners.

Correction: You are Misquoting the Bible to Suit Your Narrative

You have picked verses out of context to claim Christianity subordinates women. This is a common tactic, but it falls apart when you actually study the text. Let us correct these wrong notions with the proper context.

1. The Myth of "Silence" (1 Corinthians 14:34) Claim: You said this verse commands women to be silent and restricts their public participation.

The Context: You are quoting verse 34 but ignoring chapter 11. In 1 Corinthians 11:5, the same Apostle Paul gives instructions on how women should pray and prophesy in the church. How can a woman "prophesy" (speak divine truth) if she is completely silent?

The Reality: The instruction in 1 Corinthians 14 was addressing disruptive chatter and disorder in a specific church service in Corinth, not a universal command for all women to shut up for all time. [list] []The Bible records women leading and speaking: Deborah was a Judge and Ruler over all Israel (Judges 4). [] Huldah was a Prophetess whom the King consulted to validate Scripture (2 Kings 22). [*] Priscilla taught and corrected Apollos, a male preacher (Acts 18:26). [/list] If Christianity wanted women silent, these women would not be celebrated as leaders in the Bible.

2. The Myth of "Secondary Status" (The Rib Narrative) Claim: You said being created from the rib implies secondary status.

The Context: The Hebrew word used for "helper" to describe Eve is Ezer. This is not a word for a servant or a subordinate. In fact, God refers to Himself as "Ezer" (Helper) of Israel multiple times (Psalm 121:1-2). Does God being a "Helper" make Him inferior to humans? No!

The Reality: Being created from the rib signifies unity, not rank. Adam recognized her as his equal counterpart. Matthew Henry, a famous Christian commentator, put it perfectly: "She was not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved."

3. The Myth of "No Women's Input" in the Bible Claim: You said because men wrote the books, women had no input.

The Context: The Bible is unique in ancient literature because it preserves the voices and songs of women as Scripture. [list] []The Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), spoken by Mary, is one of the most powerful theological passages in the New Testament. []The testimony of the Samaritan Woman (John 4) sparked the first revival in Samaria. [*]The Resurrection Account the very core of Christianity relies entirely on the word of women. [/list]

Conclusion Christianity was the first faith to declare that "There is neither male nor female" (Galatians 3:28). While society at that time treated women as property, Jesus treated them as disciples. He taught them theology (Mary and Martha), he defended them (the woman caught in adultery), and he entrusted them with the Gospel message first.

Do not mistake "cultural traditions" for Biblical Truth. The Bible liberated women long before modern rights existed.

FaAbData:
Here we go again.

So what's Afghanistan and northern Nigerian practicing?

Kobojunkie:
Most Mohammedans have never read the Quran for themselves, and they do not follow the words of Mohammed. For instance, if you followed Mohammed's words, you wouldn't go around too ashamed to cite Mohammed's exact words on issue like this.. the place of women and slave women in Islam. 🥱🥱

fxexperts:
You are a very selfish human being. Because you are a man, you are happy to get all the privileges and freedom Islam can give you. Freedom to take another human being up to 4 and above as a slave, so they can worship you as a king. That is why you are here, typing rubbish. It would have made sense if you were a women then let's see if you will be here typing all this rubbish. Don't worry eductaion will soon get to those women and their eyes will become open. I think you people say western eduaction is a sin. and who give you the right to control how women are going to love their lives.

Kobojunkie:
1. Mohammed's first wife was a rich merchant whom Mohammed himself worked for — She was his employer for the better part of his life.🥱🥱
She had an identity, status, and wealth to her name before Mohammed showed up in her life. And all this predates Islam and is as recorded in your Quran and Hadiths. Yet, you want us to believe instead that women had no identity of their own before Islam showed up on the horizon? Are you sure you are OK?🥱🥱🥱

2. Are you sure you are OK in the head at all? When they say Islam hates women, these verses are part of what they mean. 🥱🥱
You literally attempted to play us— defraud us yet again— by lifting a line out of context from a passage where Mohammed reveals his beliefs about divorce, how a man can marry the day after a divorce while a woman has to wait 3 months, and how a man is above a woman in decisions regarding divorce and reconciliation, regardless of her so-called equitable rights. For what purpose? To make Islam seem even more shittier or something?

WOW.... all one literally has to do is read the Quran and the Hadiths to know that Islam has nothing of value to give women.

wellmax:
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The claim that Islam is the only religion that gave women identity is historically, biblically, and logically false.

Christianity affirms women’s full identity from its very foundation, not as a later reform. Genesis 1:27 explicitly states that both male and female are created in the image of God, grounding dignity and identity directly in God, not in social role or male mediation. This precedes Islam by centuries. The “rib” narrative in Genesis 2 does not imply inferiority; Jewish and Christian scholars alike have long understood it as a symbol of equality and companionship, not hierarchy.

Jesus’ treatment of women was radically countercultural long before Islam. He taught women publicly (Luke 10:39), engaged them in theology (John 4), defended them against religious abuse (John , included them in His ministry (Luke 8:1–3), and entrusted women as the first witnesses of the resurrection (Matthew 28). In a culture where women’s testimony was legally dismissed, Christianity placed its central truth on female witnesses, something no fabricated religion would do.

The claim that Christianity silences women misuses Scripture. Paul’s instruction in 1 Corinthians 14 is situational, not universal, especially since the same letter assumes women pray and prophesy publicly (1 Corinthians 11:5). Paul also affirms female leaders like Phoebe (Romans 16:1), Junia, “outstanding among the apostles” (Romans 16:7) and Priscilla, a theological teacher (Acts 18:26).

The assertion that women had no input in the Bible is simply false. Deborah was a judge and prophet (Judges 4–5), Huldah a prophet consulted by kings (2 Kings 22:14), Hannah’s prayer shaped Israel’s theology (1 Samuel 2), and Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55) stands as one of Scripture’s most powerful theological declarations.

Islam did grant women important legal protections in 7th-century Arabia, and that should be acknowledged. But legal reform is not the same as ontological identity. Christianity goes deeper, declaring:
“There is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28) a statement made 600 years before Islam.

What Christianity teaches is not merely rights, but equal worth, shared inheritance, and full spiritual agency before God. Historical abuses of women reflect cultural failures, not Christian doctrine itself, something Christianity openly critiques from within.

Islam did not uniquely give women identity.
Christianity grounded women’s identity in the image of God, affirmed by Christ Himself, from the very beginning. See how Chrisrianity is defended with christianty and the bible. I do not need to refer to any fake books or gods/ false prophets to defend my relifgion, the bible is complete and true in everything.

FaAbData:
You're talking theory. The reality is different

fxexperts:
Religion is truely an opium for the masses. I cannot believe anyone will be so blinded to try to defend Islam like this. truely religion is something tht has brainwashed most of you people.

Selfish useless lots. bacause it suits your narrative of enslaving women.

Validated:
What is this one saying?
Both the Christians and Muslims killed were killed by Islamic Terrorists, and here you are posting EXCUSES and enabling terrorism

Tenses:
All these talk is to exonerate that fraud of a president that made a claim he clearly has no capacity to deliver.

anonimi:
If PDP’s power sector privatisation was poorly done, why have brilliant APC leaders looters failed to rework it?

Was that not how PDP’s Jonathan reworked the Lagos-Ibadan road construction that had been concessioned by Obasanjo to Bi-Courteney in 2014

nenergy:
Excuses! Tell yourself the truth..Abubakar!