MaxInDHouse:


If you condemn terrorists who killed kids, women and harmless individuals what do you say about the government of Hamas who failed to bring such ones in their midst to book by publicly condemning their acts?

You see it's not just about saying you don't condemn Hamas but think of what the government of that country did when members of their own society did what is evil.

Imagine some individuals among those living in the southern part of Nigeria going to the east and killing babies, women and harmless individuals but the kings, governors and elders of Yorùbá didn't condemn such a thing will you say they're not the ones behind them?

SIRTee15:


Answer my question or keep quiet.

When Jesus said Thou shall worship only the LORD thy God...what is the koine Greek word used for worship.

Why did the angel refuse worship from John in revelation if worship only meant to prostate.

Why did the angel tell John to worship only God.

The word used for worship in the verses I quoted was proskyneson.

Aemmyjah:


Answer my question sir
Do you condemn Hamas action of October 7

SIRTee15:


The verses I brought were for Solomon praying to God in the temple. Read 2 chronicles 7.1-13, can't be repeating myself.

The book of ezekiel also talked about the glory of God filling the temple.

Ezekiel 43
As the glory of the Lord entered the temple by the gate facing east, 5 the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple.

There was no temple during the time of David but the tabernacle had always existed since the time of Moses and it's filled with the glory of God.

Exodus 40.34

Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. 35 Moses could not enter the tent of meeting because the cloud had settled on it, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle.

The Lord said to Moses, let them make me a sanctuary, that I may dwell in their midst. Exactly as I show you concerning the pattern of the tabernacle, and of all its furniture. There I will meet with you, from above the mercy seat. Exodus 25:8-9.

When the temple was built by Solomon, the tabernacle was inside the holy on holies in the temple.

Its obvious U've not read the bible, U don't know anything about the old testament. That's why U ignorant about the glory of God, temple n tabernacle.

U just parroting dawahganda script repeated in your mosque up and down. Even a 2 year old Christian knows God dwells in the temple.

That's why U Muslims are pagan. U bow before an object void of God.

SIRTee15:


So if Allah told U guys to bow to kabba in the Koran or hadiths. It shows God in the bible is not the same as Allah in the Koran.
Simple.

God in the bible forbid anyone to worship him by bowing before a stone.

So if your Allah is telling U to bow before a stone, then they are not the same God.

It's impossible for God to give contradictory message. Same God cannot tell Moses one thing and then tell Muhammed exact opposite.

Allah is not God of the bible, Allah is an impostor. I think this settles the case.

SIRTee15:


We talking bible here, I dont believe what's written in the Koran.

So Hagar called an angel 'the Living one who sees me'
Who is called Living one in the bible?

So Hagar called an angel 'El roi'? In case U don't know, one of the names of God is El roi.

So go back and answer my question did Hagar refer to angel of the LORD as God?

Janosky:


Salient point.

Al Salam alaikum.

MaxInDHouse:


The question you need to answer now:

Are people worshiping Jesus today Christians since people back then never worshiped him?

You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’ Matthew 15:7-9

Aemmyjah:


Are David and Solomon Jews or Muslims?

Choose one

Aemmyjah:


Hamas attack on October 7
Do you condemn it?
Yes or No?

I'm not supporting Israel
Just a simple question

Aemmyjah:


Jesus told his grieved Apostles that he will send the comforter 'in a short while'

Muhammad came many centuries later
What comfort did he bring

DOptical:


God is a spirit who operates as the father and also the son who saved the world through his death and resurrection. Ifa testifies to same as much, just as Jesus told the Samaritan woman by the well that God is a spirit.

The false prophet is Mohammed. Lunatic Idiot heard about the scriptures from his brother in law (the brother of his first wife) who preached Christianity to him but due to his greed, he turned what was preached to him into criminal venture.

SIRTee15:


Guy I never said U guys worship the kabba. Go through my previous post, no where did I say U guys worship a stone.

I SAID U MUSLIMS BOW BEFORE A STONE WHICH IS A SIN TO GOD.
GOD FORBID HUMANS BOWING BEFORE A STONE WHEN WORSHIPPING HIM.
GOD HATES IT WHEN YOU ASSOCIATE A STONE WITH HIM.

Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
Lev 26.1


And never set up sacred stone, for the Lord your God hates them.
Deuteronomy 16.22


Abu read to understand

SIRTee15:



What's all these.....we talking about angel of the LORD, U shifted to Ishmael....
Did Hagar refer to the angel of the LORD as God? Yes or No

Your genesis 17.20 is very lame, U are the one hiding something. This is the full verse.

19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with Isaac as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.

God's covenant is with Isaac and not Ishmael.

SIRTee15:


Then tell me why did the angel speaking to John reject worship and told him to worship only God.
If as U claim, worship in new testament simply means to bow.

SIRTee15:


Then explain why the same word proskyneson which is worship in koine greek was used when refering to worshipping God.

Why did the angel refuse John to worship him- proskyneson but told him to worship- proskyneson only God.


“Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say,

‘You must worship (proskyneson) the Lord your God and serve only him!

8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw all these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship- (proskyneo) at the feet of the angel who showed them to me. 9 But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship (proskyneson) only God!”

SIRTee15:


The glory of God is called shikenah in Hebrew. Its in the talmud.

What's with all these verses U bringing...U don't get it, do U?

Prophets bow towards the temple because it's filled with the presence of God.
How many times will I spell it for U. Gosh.
They are bowing to God's glory in the temple not the physical structure.
That's why I brought 2 chronicles 7. See it in another passage.

2 chronicles 5. 13-14
Then the temple of the Lord was filled with the cloud, 14 and the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the Lord filled the temple of God.

Steep:
you mean the other thread that you ran away from?
The burden is on you prove how it has corrupted.
Produce the uncorrupted book?
Why does allah ask you to confirm from it?

SIRTee15:


My friend, the bible said Jesus was worshipped not bow to or people prostrated to him.
PEOPLE WORSHIPPED JESUS AND JESUS NEVER REJECTED WORSHIP.

Matthew 28:9
And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Matthew 14:33
And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”


Matthew 2:11
And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

Luke 24.52
And the disciples worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy.


The bible never mentioned other prophets were worshipped or receive worship. None.
You are the one forcing prostrate/bow to mean worship.
The bible makes it clear Thou shall only worship the LORD your God.

To prove to you that Jesus was worshipped as God in the new testament, when John fell on his face to worship the Angel, he told John never to worship him but to worship only God.

Revelation 22
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”

Unless U can provide verses where prophets were worshipped, your case is dead.

SIRTee15:


Worship simply means adoration and reverence to a deity or anything you consider god.

I don't consider my parents as gods, so prostrating or bowing to them will not make them gods!!!

SIRTee15:



2 chronicles 7

Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the (shikenah) glory of the Lord filled the house.

2 And the priests could not enter into the house of the Lord, because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord's house.

3 And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the Lord, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.

SIRTee15:


Genesis 16.9

9 Then the angel of the LORD told Hagar, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”

11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the LORD has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”

13 Hagar gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seennthe One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi[d]; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.

Aemmyjah:


If they were alive today in Israel
Would you attack them since you claim they're all Muslims?

Kobojunkie:
None of it is my theory as God of Scripture has never changed His standard or demand from the beginning even until Jesus Christ, the Last Prophet sent from the God of Israel.

And yes, Jesus Christ said it Himself that He was the Last Prophet sent from the God of Israel proclaiming that all others who would come after Him, particularly those who would use His name, were all False prophets and False Teachers.

Aemmyjah:


David was punished

He admitted he did bad

Did Muhammad commit adultery n pedophilia?

Kobojunkie:
1. Mohammed has absolutely no connection to the God of Israel who instead made clear that He put a seal on Prophets and visions at the Endtime which happened as Jesus Christ said in the same generation that His disciples loved in, a period approximately 500 years before Mohammed's parent thought to have him.

2. That claim of yours does not hold true even in this world we live with babies the existence of test tube babies and in the near future even mechanical wombs.

3. The contradiction here is not found in Scripture but by that which is believeed by you religious entities.

Steep:
So Mohammad never wrote any book? So who wrote the Koran?

Muhammad was lettered, he did transactions for his wife. The word you Muslims translate as unlettered does not mean unlettered it means people without a book (scripture).

here it is. “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers” (Surah 10:94-95; 16:43).

You are the one diverting, I asked you where did Jesus say he is the way for only the children of Israel at that time. You could not.

So are you saying a Son cannot be born without penise and sperm? So according to the Koran, how was Jesus born? Whose penis and sperm?