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oyatz:
The Op is correct, Ebira is not too far from Igboland and it's normal that they will be influenced by igbos, however the Ebira language sound closer to Yoruba language than Igbo.

Some Ebira Yoruba names like Ojo, Obatemi, Omonure etc

Which part of igboland?

AdolfHitlerxXx:
In Yoruba accent... KHLOE (Kilo!)...

Kilode?

Kilode = "WHY" for non-Yoruba speakers

Kilode is What happened, not why?


Or is my own Yoruba that is bad?

OyinO:
Very very good development. Next time,they won't act stoopid licking Hausa/Fulani assholes. They thought it will end with the Igbos. Afonja, how market?

well, Condemn every evil wherever it happens.
What is bad is bad, eve though Kaiama people are not Yorubas sha.

This thing is very common in Porto Novo, Benin

It is a real betting game over there oo. Complete with teams and supporters.

ItzChinnex:
Her name is Nina Onyenobi

Thanks for the heads up.

Will update asap.

Miracle
(Miracle Igbokwe)
https://www.facebook.com/miracle.igbokwe?fref=mentions

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Princess
(Linda Onyejekwe)
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Teddy A
(Oluwatope "Badman"
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Tobi
(Tobi Bakare)
https://twitter.com/tobibakre

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Holy cow.

Ifu Ennada
(Ifu Adanne)
https://www.facebook.com/ifu.ennada1

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K.Brule
Kelvin Broullette
(Wait o, is this one even Naija )
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Khloe
(Abiri Oluwabusayo Chloe)
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Leo
(Leo Babarinde Akinola Dasilva)
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Lolu
(Omololu)
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Miracle
(Miracle Igbokwe)
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Princess
(Linda Onyejekwe)
https://www.facebook.com/onyejekwe.princess

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Teddy A
(Oluwatope "Badman" )
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Tobi
(Tobi Bakare)
https://twitter.com/tobibakre

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Holy cow.

Anto
(Munirat Antoniette Lecky)
https://www.instagram.com/antolecky/

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BamBam
(Oluwabamike Olawumi)
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Bitto
(Bitto Arumun)
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Cee-C
(Cynthia Nwadiora)
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Vandora
("Vandora Olu Vanessa"
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Dee-One
(Adedayo Aderombi)
https://www.facebook.com/comediandeeone/

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Does comedy In real life.
Let's see how funny he gets in the house.

Nina
(Nina Onyenobi).
https://www.facebook.com/nina.alex.3344/photos?lst=100017107205514%3A100013405969312%3A1517153055&source_ref=pb_friends_tl

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Frankyboy1:
I am going to tell you all a secret, the time,energy, resources and concentration you will put into this, choose a skill,a vocation,a training,a business course or line of career,and put same resources into, and in three months you would have changed or on the journey to changing the course of your lives! But I tell you another sad secret,man lacks d discipline and self control to do That! We rather stay in our comfort zones and waste time, forgetting time is life and time is money! Then.one day we wake up,and continue the blame game! The Government,my parents,pastor,economy,church and the list continues, forgetting to blame the one who has the power to change d course of his life or destiny! Me myself and I

Leave us alone, we like it like that! Mr secret teller.
Everybody spends their time the way they so wish!

Seriously, I was beginning to wonder why most of thee BBNAIJA housemates had such funky and foreign soundingnames , So I decided to do a little digging , and here are the things I found.

Rico Swavey
(Patrick Fakoya)
https://www.facebook.com/fakoyaP

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Aneeka
(Iwuchukwu Marianne)
https://www.facebook.com/iwuchukwu.marianne

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Alex
(Sandra Asogwa)
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Angel
(Angel Awatoriagha)
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stefanweeks:
olamide right now

lol, look at you.

Person wey go dey happy.

historyworld031:
I don't think I will continue talking to you for long.
the subject was about Akoko-Edo and the fact thatv they are Edo, not yoruba.
If you want to engage in an other debate then feel free to get out of this nairaland page.

Now just posting words out of a blog as proof ? That is one of the silliest things one can do.

1) You changed topic
2) you are using words from a blog to "prove" your new claims.

Madness.

By the way, it is this same propaganda that the yoruba tried to use in order to stop the creation of Bendel state. Digging it up and trying to use it again will do you no good.

Okay ooo
Btw, the piece you claim is Yoruba propaganda was written by prof. Omo Omoruyi from Benin.

His Email is written there, Africandemocracy@hotmail.com.
And then you keep calling me Yoruba when I am not.

This matter between You and Yoruba, e heavy for mouth oo.

historyworld031:
Typical yoruba, can't see passed the british occupation of our lands.
"provinces" ? That word comes from the british colonial occupation, before that colonial occupation those "provinces" were part of the same souvereign country called Benin Kingdom.
Bendel was devided into 2 during a military dictatorship for political reasons.
Nobody is gravitating towards yoruba, rather it is you guys yoruba who keep trying to claim others as yoruba which is why a lot of people keep coming out to say: "we are not yoruba !"

Trolling you is interesting i swear..

In 1976, a new military exercise was performed following the Justice Irikefe Commission. The country was turned into a 19 State-Federation. In addition to the changes to other parts of the country, the Western State was sub-divided into three States, Oyo, Ogun and Ondo, even though Ogun State was never recommended. Of course it had to be decreed by the Supreme Military Council as a "parting gift" to the then Chief of Staff and later Head of State, General Olusegun Obasanjo. The strongly canvassed Kaduna and Akwa Ibom States did not see their dream realized until under General Ibrahim Babangida in 1988.

What is important is that the only old State, The Midwest was left in tact despite the spirited demands for Delta and Anioma States to "avoid the Bini imperialism". The only change in Midwest that took place was the change of name from Midwest to Bendel an amalgam of Benin and Delta Provinces.

My cousin, Dr. Samuel Osaigbovo Ogbemudia may not know that those who are getting him to organize a meeting of leaders of former Midwestern Region contributed in many ways to the loss of status for old Midwestern Region of Oba Akenzua’s Dream and consequently for the loss of status of and rudderlessness in the two states that grew out of Midwestern Region. Does Sam know that those who submitted memoranda in the name of Afesan, Anioma and Delta States from the old Midwestern Region had one and only one group (BINIS) in the old region that they wanted to avoid like a plague? Why have they called on Dr. Ogbemudia to call such a meeting? Did Sam know that that meeting did not have the best interest of the Edo State at heart? When these people are stuck they come to Benin on the erroneous impression that Benin was the ancestral home to most of the groups in the old Midwestern Region.

http://nigeriaworld.com/feature/publication/omoruyi/070602.html

Benins are perhaps the most imperialist people we have in todays and even historical Nigeria.
Do you want to deny it?

Don't make me laugh, the Bendel state was not divided in 1991 for any sinister motives but the agitation of the people to be alone. Three groups the Afesan, The Aniomas and the Deltas actually wanted out and agitated for it.
At the end of the day , only two states emerged. The Afesans were "stuck" with the Binis, and the Aniomas were lumped with the Deltas.

It was a miscalculation on their part to have believed 4 states could emerge out of the old Mid-western region.

Big brother Nigeria being hosted in South Africa?
Hhahaha, What a shithole!

historyworld031:
Typical yoruba, can't see pass the british occupation of our lands.
"provinces" ? That word comes from the british colonial occupation, before that colonial occupation those "provinces" were part of the same souvereign country called Benin Kingdom.
Bendel was devided into 2 during a military dictatorship for political reasons.
Nobody is gravitating towards yoruba, rather it is you guys yoruba who keep trying to claim others as yoruba which is why a lot of people keep coming out to say: "we are not yoruba !"

Everything in the world are artificial creation of humans, including Benin kingdom, western region, Bendel state, Edo state and what have you, but that is not the point. That is a digression
If Akoko Edo are not Yoruba, why are people mistaking them for one?
Are you calling everyone stupid?

When did you ever see an Ishan man opening a thread to say they are not Yoruba? Have you ever seen such before? Funny.

^^ Division tactics! very clear
citing all the instances of a bad relationship between the Okenes and the Etunos to designate them as different and unrelated.

Wehdone sir!

When Frank Onaivi Ukonga wanted to run for the Gubernatorial seat in Edo back in 2012 tell me what group did he run to first if not the Ebira Vonya International, and the Ohiku-Egbira descendants union?

Meanwhile, Etuno people in Okene earlier this year

https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26231415_10211303154155282_39391137320786129_n.jpg?oh=1c2c42a536743802e18db67b622ecd6b&oe=5ADC6231


We remain one and indivisible!
Same names, same looks, same language, same origin! wetin remain?

Be it Ebira, Egbira, Egbura or Etuno we are all One , and descendants of Ohiku (Oshuku), so no, we are not different at all.

mumu show that is not streamed anywhere Online

I can even watch European leagues sef Online

historyworld031:
The state of their own is a statet which comprised the entire Bendel-state and which made some outsiders scared because they thought it would signal the coming back of the Benin Kingdom which used to be the super power of the region and was defeated by britian. (They didn't want a state of only Akoko-Edo, they wanted a state of only Edoid people: Bendel ! )
The Akoko-Edo are in no way "garvitating" around yoruba.
You certainly don't even know what Benin refers to, just like the usual yoruba.
I just hope you know that we have Benin City < Benin Kingdom < Benin Empire.
Be more precise about what you are talking about.
The only braggart I see here are you and your fellow yoruba, you are clearly diving into a subject on which you know nothing.

What are you talking about pls?
I have no grouse between you or Benins or anyone else, I am simply stating things as I see it. At least I can say I am fairly familiar with that area, as it is in the Ebira general neighbourhood, even though I may not be an expert.

If Akoko Edos are not gravitating towards Yoruba than other Edos, then why is it that someone was complaining a while ago that people see them as Yorubas even though they are not. Why is the entire issue even a topic for discussion then? You have to understand that the Akoko Edo environment is very different from what is obtainable in Benin I have been to both.


If I may ask, What led to the breakup of Bendel state into Edo and Delta states respectively?
You know Bendel state was a result of the combination of two provinces (Benin and Delta provinces). Did the Delta people chose by their own volition to be separate?
I know they complained that all their money were being carted of to Benin to develop it.

Deadlytruth:
You are a big fat liar. Didn't I already say it that your actual grouse with me has nothing really to do with the issue of Yoruba vs Akoko-Edo but my exposure of the true position of the status of Igarra as being not a subset of Ebira? Am I not vindicated now?Igarras are not and will never be Ebiras. The mere fact that it is even a subject of debate is enough evidence that they are not. If at all one of them has to be classified under the other, then the Ebiras should even be the ones to be subsumed under the Etuno identity on account of seniority of Etuno.
However, the collective generic name of the people is "Oshuku" and not Ebira.

First and foremost, your ad hominem attacks on my person by calling me "Big Fat liar" and all sort of other names won't work here. So because You know I am Ebira, you think you can force your reasons of why YOU THINK I am involved in this thread on me?

I have 2 questions for you.

What is the origin of Etunos?
What language do Etunos speak?

Deadlytruth:
Why Ebiras want to subsume the identity of other Oshukus under their is to make themselves appear numerically stronger than they actually are in order to attain some more ego- boosting political relevance at the national level owing to how much emotional damage their domination by Igalas in Kogi politics has caused them. You can imagine that despite being a second majority in Kogi the Ebiras have never produced the governor due to overwhelming Igala influence if not now that it accidentally came their way through circumstances which legally shut Igalas out of the contest.
All these Ebira-Panda, Ebira-koto, Ebira- this and that were originally unknown. They are recent narratives in pursuit of a dubious agenda.
There are many more Oshuku towns in Benue and Cross River which have never been identified as Ebiras.
Ebira refers to the Oshuku descendants of Itaazi ONLY.

I will forgive your ignorance on any issues relating to Anebira because you are not one. Same way you can excuse some yorubas here for making some claims.
Who told you the name Ebira is new? Some Ebiras chose to be known as Egbira, others as Egbura but never you say the name is a new coinage, because it is not. Ethnologue classifies Etuno simly as an Ebira dialect, which is what it is.

Deadlytruth:
]I am not aware of any stigma associated with Ebiras. This is another fallacy aimed at validating your Falae narrative. If there is such a stigma for which you accuse Igarras of avoiding Ebiras, then why did Igarras attend the very first Oshuku descendants meeting in which an Igarra man was chosen as its first national president in recognition of Igarra's overall seniority status? You can't deceive anyone here please.

Read Up
Ebira Etuno leaders bear their minds on Anebira Opete'

Watch this video and change your warped perspective
What is the difference between an Advize from Okene and an Adavize from Igarra other than political boundary?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxMO1pOTv4U

Listen clearly to where this Igarra chief said that he Hopes and prays for the day that all EBIRAS will come together as One and discuss common interests.
He said it CLEARLY that everyone in the EBIRA NATION are one and have a unique way of identifying one another, no matter where we are across the globe.

It is so funny how while you on one hand are trying to promote your cultural uniqueness are trying to drive a wedge of division beween basoically the same people, the Taos and the Etunos.

Deadlytruth:
Merely following a thread is totally different from reading it with comprehension. You obviously refused to comprehend the contents. Your claim of being an Ebira man yet fighting Yoruba battle is queer. Yes I have something against the Yorubas, and that is their overbearing attitude and their claim of founding Akoko-Edo towns which is pure falsehood.
I am sure you will give them a pat on the back the day they claim they founded Okene, Ihima, Ogaminana, Kuroko, and other Ebira settlements.

I said it categorically that they are not Yorubas, so I don't exctly get the point of this.
Have I claimed otherwise?

Deadlytruth:
You laboured to sound unbiased but your illogicality gave you away. Your attempt to deny the effect of Western Region in the Akoko-Edo identity crisis is laughable. You rhetorically asked whether the bearing of Yoruba names by Egbiras also means they were once in the Western Region, and then sighted other watery evidences against the Western Region's administration factor.
If the bearing of Yoruba names by Egbiras negates the Western Region's effect as you would have us believe, then how come none of your present Ebira LGAs ever used the 'Akoko' tag in its name?
Why didn't you Ebiras give your LGAs names like Akoko-Okene, Akoko-Adavi, Akoko-Ihima, etc to prove that it does not take once being in the Western Region to be that Influenced by Yorubaism as you want your gullible readers to believe? Why don't you also sing your Ekuochi songs in Yoruba to also prove that 'point'?

Wait, were the Yorubas the ones who "forced" the Akoko Edos to add Akoko to their name like you are postulating here?
because from what I gathered in this thread I think it was you who said they chose to go with the Akoko tag since there was no unifying appelation for all the people in that area. All that area were known as Kukuruukus before they all chose their different distinguishing names, and i very much doubt the Yorubas were the ones who told or coerced them to chose the Akoko-Igarra tag.

Deadlytruth:
Your claim that Yorubas are not imposing themselves on other tribes on account of the 1963 parting of ways is funny.
The Western Region was created in about 1951 and operated as a Yoruba dominated autonomous region for 12 years during which they made policies through which the minorities were forcefully Yorubalized to an extent.

SO you mean the more than 55 years of independence is not more than enough to correct any policy effect of the Western regional gpvernment that lasted 12 years (1951 to 1963)? That would be quite shocking.

Why isn't the same level of policy entrenchment seen amongst people like the Ishans and Urhobos, or even Itsekiris to the same level today as it is seen among Akoko Edos? You were all in it together. You can't blame Western region 100% on this, seriously.
This was where my mention of a few ebira villages that have some Yoruba names actually makes sense, because it isn't all about policy somethimes

Deadlytruth:
]But just three years after the parting of ways in 1963, the military misadventured into politicals, seized power, dismantled regional autonomy and imposed unitary system on the country which we have had to live with in all the 55 years thereafter. How easy is it for each tribe to chart her own identity under unitary system if I may ask you? The mere attempt to change your LGA's name requires the National Assembly to debate it as a bill and either reject or accept it. I doubt if you have any understanding of the near impossibility of self assertion by individual tribes or ethnicities under a system defined by very weak subnational units at the mercy of an overwhelmingly strong centre. Of course, being one of the Northerners currently resisting a return to the 1960 constitution, I don't expect you to have known this. But you can avail yourself with Chief Obafemi Awolowo's written works on thoughts about Nigeria's freedom in which he X-rayed the dangers involved in experimentation with unitary system in a multi-ethnic democracy like ours.

The Etsakos and Aniomas whom you call Agenebodes and Agbors in error did not share boundaries with Yorubaland unlike Akoko-Edo hence the Yoruba influence minimal even though some Etsakos too do have Yoruba names.

Now this is interesting.
I think you might be alluding to the fact that the interactions and common boundary between the Akoko Edos and the Yorubas might have had more part to play in this entire Imbroglio that you are ready to admit, because politically, it was no different for Ibillo than it was for Bomadi.
And that is the meat of this whole discussion. Neighbouring peoples have been interacting eons before anything colonial in Nigeria.

Deadlytruth:
Your reference to Ogori is another fallacy. Much as Ogori is trilingual, the undiluted Ogori Language is not mutually intelligible with Yoruba, and the LGA in which Ogori is domiciled does not have the 'Akoko' tag as they were never part of the Western Region. What they call it is Ogori-Magongo LGA with HQ at Akpafa.

I never said the Ogoris were Yoruba.
I said they are usually trilingual. Theya re not Yoruba, Ebira or Edo, they are their own people, yet the influence of all three tribes reflect in their lifestyle. Who is forcing them to exhibit traits that are not indigenous to them?
Look at Ososo of today that are celebrating Ebira festivities like Unehe, have the Ebiras gone there to force them to do it?

Deadlytruth:
I could not however see how your analysis on Ososo, Imoga and Ekor is related to the topic under debate. That Ebiras migrants make up 30℅ of Ososo can't credit Ebiras with the founding of Ososo any more than the 40℅ Igbo population of Lagos, as we are told, can credit Igbos with founding of the city. So I don't get your point there.

This is apples to oranges comparison based on what is being discussed here. If a Lagosian came here to deny the presence of Igbo dominated areas within Lagos now, then yes you might have a point. Heck some ososo people can eve speak Ebira.

Deadlytruth:
Your question on who is to say about who founded Akoko-Edo towns is at best hypocritic because I, an Akoko-Edo person, is to say rather than you a Kogite. More Ibillo people have come up here to explain that Yorubas did not found Ibillo but you still point to the OP as if all it takes for one's information on a NL thread to be authentic is being the OP of that thread.

Above all these, what I see in you is a hidden grouse over my detailed explanations of the independent status of Igarra from Ebira. We all in Akoko-Edo understand that Ebiras have always sought to do a fraudulent reclassification of all Oshukus as subsets of Ebiras with Igarras most particularly resistant to it on account of the superior status conferred on them by historical primogeniture right over the others. That we even began to hear distortions as Ebira-Etuno is enough indication of the extent to which you Ebiras would rather go to re-colonize and suppress the separate identities of other Oshukus.
When you see Igarrans you call them annavi meaning bush people but when it comes to seeking political relevance on a national scale you try to describe them as Ebiras just to make up the number. Igarras are not Ebiras and Ebiras are not Igarras. Igarras are the Oshuku descendants of Ozoko while Ebiras descended from Itaazi.
Finally, stop looking at a people's concern through the perspective of others but themselves.

The CAC church is a Yoruba movement this frequently founded by Yorubas everywhere. So their being named Oke Igbala or Isegun in Ekor and Imoga does not translate to these towns being founded by Yorubas any more than the names Anglican and Catholic translate their host towns and cities within Nigeria to being founded by Britons and Italians

So the fact that Okenes call Etunos derogatory names means what? that they don't have the same root?
How is Etuno being of same stock as Ebira Tao (Okene) from the same source in Kwararafa any different from you in Akoko Edo claiming to have come from Benin? Etunos can understand us, Can you understand Benin without learning it?

Yes, Imoga and Ekor are more Yoruba than Ibillo by my own experience, that is why I brought them up, they basically attend the same churches as Yorubas , that is why I have chosen to mention CAC.. Do you get to see CAC churches in that much prominence anywhere outside Yorubaland?

Deadlytruth:
Point of correction please; Igarra is not Egbira at all. Those called Egbiras are located in Kogi State. Igarra and Egbira people are both independent subsets of the Oshuku tribe which even has members in Yala LGA of Cross River State. It is wrong to assume that Igarras are a subset of Egbiras. Please read the previous messages here and you'll get to understand this better.

Igarra is basically Ebira.
Forget all the political posturing, or is it because they are in Edo state? They may chose to be called something else maybe because there has now been a kind of stigma associated with been seen as Ebira or something.
We have Ebira Koto, Ebira Mozum, Ebira Panda, Ebira Toto, and Ebira Etuno,they are all Ebiras.

Okene people don't have any copyright over the name Ebira. All these groups are from the same source who settled in various different locations either straight from the source or by separating from other groups already established elsewhere.

historyworld031:
You are looking at the problem upside down, you need to ask yourself why the people of Bendel state (including Akoko-Edo) voted overwhelmingly to leave the south-west and be a state of their own. This is recent history, all relevant documents are available. It is very simple, we are not yoruba and we are tired of yoruba trying to impose itself on us. The biggest difference between us and yoruba is that our history is written on papers several hundred years old while yoruba are making up their "history".
I would just like to know why you yoruba keep claiming one group of the Edo people after an other.

I am not looking at it upside down or anything. I am not even sure you understood all I typed.
Are you the same person as that insultive braggart from Benin who curses and gets all randy for no reason? I made my submission and he immediately attacked me like I stole his Euro or something.
Understand my position before you reply me, I have never claimed the people from that area are Yorubas, besides even if they were Yorubas, who doesn't want to be in a state of their own?

Didn't the Ekitis clamor to be removed from the Ondo people, even though thy are both Yoruba?

My point was that the Akoko Edos have been alone (At least politically) for running up to 55 years now, and you can't keep saying that political dominance by Yoruba is the SOLE reason for their seemingly Yoruba general gravitation. That was why I mentioned non Yoruba communities of Kogi that seem to be in that same cultural situation (Ogori, Magongo, and some parts of Ebira).

They are simply like that due to natural reasons rather than anything political.

AxxeMan:
Get the fvvck off this thread , you are a non entity from kogi who wandered into where he isn't wanted nor needed!

Irrelevant kid , from a corner in kogi , with nothing to show in life other than kissing ass!

Get lost, your sheep and goats are waiting!

bla bla bla

AxxeMan:
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I have given you your 2mins of attention now fvvck off

Don't you have some kogi goats and sheep's to mate with?

Once again I never quoted you, bini boy!
so take your 2 minutes and shove it where the sun don't shine.

AxxeMan:
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All this rumbling and you still managed to make zero sense !!

All I got from this rubbish you typed is that you are as irrelevant has the corner you are from in kogi!

If your village in kogi choose to kiss ass that's your cross, but when it comes to Edos matter shut the fuvvck up ,your myopic views are neither needed nor wanted!!

Come on get lost!!

I quoted a human being from Akoko Edo, not you.
Don't you have some italian returnees to go save?

Deadlytruth:
Being a Prof in academics does not automatically confer one with accurate and deep knowledge of one's roots.
The case I mentioned of Igarra people initially believing they were from Igala had Igarra professors who fell for that narrative.

I have been following this discussion very closely and I must say that you seem to have a thing against Yorubas either that or you just aren't a fan of them.

How can you continue to insist that the yorubas are the ones forcing 'Yorubaness' over Akoko-Edo people , a people who have been in a separate region since 1963, over 54 years! Isn't that enough time for every man to chart his own destiny?

Take it or leave it, the influence of Yorubas in Akoko Edo is undeniable. The influence of ethnic majorities over surrounding ethnic minorities is inevitable, it is a fact of Life. I have met people from Biase and Abi local governments of cross river state who are not Igbo people having Igbo names.

I am from Adavi local government and even though we are in Kogi state NC Nigeria, never have we for once ever been under the Western region, yet so many Ebiras have Yoruba names, I am not joking, go to places like ihima and check for yourself. So, it would be wrong of you to keep saying, ohh The Yoruba influence seen amongst us is because of Western region, lol, were the Agenebode's not under the same western region , or the Agbors?

You are calling the Ibillo man here "Confused" while parading your own views as sacrosanct, You even said Akoko Edo has been ridden of all Yoruba influences which I personally know to be a pure lie, lol. Ogori people who are your closest neighbours in Kogi are usually trilingual in Oko, Yoruba and Ebira without leaving their towns. Is that also a case of Western region influence or simply influence of a neighbouring majority on surrounding tribes?

Let us have an objective discussion. These people are not Yorubas but pls, people are not stupid. We are even talking about ibillo, what if we start talking about Ekor and imoga that are absolutely no different from Yorubas with all their C.A.C Oke Isegun and Oke Igbala churches ?

Unless you carry that entire area and move it to another place, neighbours will always interact. as I speak to you I can tell you that nothing less that 30% of Ososo town are of Ebira origin and there are quarters there that are majority Ebira. So yes while ososo town might have been initially completely edoid, same can not be said of Ososo of now, who is to say all those Yoruba place names in Ibillo and co were not first founded by Yoruba people?

Stop dealing with history like someone looking at a landscape through a tube, who only sees only what is straight ahead in front of the open end of the pipe but incapable of seeing all the surrounding complexities.

@Ezanafe

hooklover:
From my estimate south south states reciever over 50billion from the stats.
The entire north has recieve close to 45billuon Maura.

Yet we don't have anything to show for it...

Yet we believe the North is collecting more and need more of their share...

Just imagine 6 southsouth states collect more than entire northern states. Yes we keep complaining..

I think we have a problem of greed at the highest level in the southwest..

Errrrm, sorry sir but how?
Can’t you see the SW is actually recieving one of the lowest (if not the lowest) allocation in the entire federation, viz-a-viz population?

mmsen:
This is from 2014.

https://i.imgur.com/4okU7u9.png

https://i.imgur.com/A0Uki3f.png

Not visible.

Nigerian politicians are an absokute disgrace!!!
From top to bottom, All of them!

JayEntaur:
Moi-moi is bean pudding, akara is bean cake, while amala should be plantain/yam flour paste (not too sure about this).

Lol you are just improvising all those terms.

How can someting fried be a “Cake” and how can Amala be a “paste”? Lmao
Nigerians and their oversabi.

The truth is that those things don’t exist in English.
What is the English name for Nkwobi? Looool

internationalman:
If this is true, it's high time we make pidgin English our official language.

Because an Oyibo club made a post in it?
You can’t even come up with a more organic or culturally relevant reason.

tolufase:
Point of correction, both moi-moi and Amala have English names. The English name of Moi-moi is bean budding while that of Amala is yam flower.

Amala is not Yam flour.
Not after it is made into Amala. You can loosely translate Elubo or Lafun to Yam flour, but even that technically wouldn’t be correct. It is just an improvised translation.

Moimoi isn’t bean pudding either, lol.

Hmmn, Honestly, I have no idea.
Not all part of one language are necessarily translatable into another one, because all language have some pieces of cultural uniqueness that can be found among that region or culture alone.

There are some Yoruba or Ebira words that have no English equivalent.
Eku’Ile in Yoruba for instance has no English translation.

Also- moi-moi and Amala have no English for example.
Etc