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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 8:25pm On May 14
BlueMann:
The kind of space Kyle Walker is finding is dangerous. They will probably eventually get punished

Infact, I was to ask if spurs' LB has been sent off

The space is just too much
Politics / Re: Tinubu: This Failure Has Made Buhari Look Like A Superstar - Oseni Rufai by AdisaOwala: 7:53pm On May 14
ganisucks:
Kikiki... 😆😅🤣😂

Some people are coming here to cho cho cho, their employers are already typing handover notes. Una never chimchonchim.

See ya round coconut head

Lol

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 4:08pm On May 14
This Martinez sef

Make we still dey observe sha.

With the recurring injuries/fitness issues, cutting our losses and moving on might soon be a good idea

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 11:46am On May 14
Oasis007:
OFFICIAL: Varane to leave at end of season.

I am expecting same for Martial and Casemiro soon. Case is wanted by Clubs in Saudi, that gonna fetch us some bulks.

Martial
Evans
VDB
Varane
Erikson
Antony (loan)
Amrabat

I think these exits are the surest for now

I hope we are looking at formidable replacements already
Business / Re: Naira Slumps, Exchanges At Over ₦‎1,500 Against Dollar by AdisaOwala: 8:36am On May 14
Curious345:
I have not been able to buy a new phone since this dollar slump. Phone I sure currently I bought for almost 400k. The upgraded version of this Oppo is now almost 1m..


How can I spapah 1m on a phone ? How

Which language is this?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:20pm On May 13
Roland17:
You are not obliged to read, there is an option to skip.

Until your school of thought start to take responsibility and hold Arteta accountable when he falters, I will. If you are indifferent about winning a title or trophies because we should be thankful to Arteta, or because he is competing against Pep, that is you and what you believe, don't force it down the rest of us. If you are content with going trophyless despite outspending Pep and Klopp over the last 2 seasons and 700M, I am not and will raise the issues I have.

Some of us see it differently because while we or should I say 'I" acknowledge the progress, I also pick out the issues, especially when it is now historical with a predictable pattern. Arteta is going into his 5th season but somehow, he continues to be shielded because we should be grateful with the way we lost in the UCL, Europa, FA, EFL and the EPL. I could care less if I am termed a hater, it is nothing new, the club comes before anyone and that includes Arteta. It is also important to note that Arteta has not improved this team in a vacuum, we saw how he struggled with the same team Ebening took to the UEL finals where the gulf in quality was finally exposed. This isn't the case where he is begging for funds or structure.

For the sake of some of you that are recent here, I wish Seun will resurrect some of our old threads from 2010/ 2011 that have been binned when Wenger was celebrating top 4, Spy360 and Oyin are probably (I stand corrected) the other surviving handles that are still here and see where handles are going at Wenger and the club for going trophyless, so no, it is not novel that supporters of Arsenal question our trophyless situation, do your research! I don't need a United or Chelsea fan before I can question the direction of the club. United and Chelsea are in their worst run, they are financially more capable than we are and if they get it right, we are now looking at better competition versus what we have in Newcastle, Villa, City and Spuds for the top 4, not even title, since we should we are forbidden from winning a title because Arteta is competing against Pep.

After last season's bottling, yes, it was an absolute bottle, this same school of thought told us to be grateful, you told us he is a rookie learning on the job, you argued it wasn't a bottle, you told us we are in process and should trust it....But when the players left and joined their National teams, they started admitting they were in control and should have closed it out but here, it is all great and dandy because Arteta is in charge. I am sorry, I don't do toxic positivity and I am not apologetic about it. I will continue to reign on Arteta if it makes anyone uncomfortable or sleepless, so be it, I don't conform to the herd.

The fact of the matter is that once again, we were in control of our destiny but came out flat and lost 2-0 at home to Villa. I can muster a strong performance on the day but if that performance against Villa isn't indicative of our now historical inability to rise to the occasion then I am not sure what is. How about the Porto game that we won on penalties? We were lost in the euphoria of winning that many forgot that was a bad performance on the night which reared it's ugly head against Bayern in the next round.

COYG!


If not for say Erik Bin Laden is a maad man, I for say make you come collect free form immediately - you shouldn't be on this thread grin

More oyel to your head for the indepth Analysis jare

A fresh breather from the usual "Pep is a genius - it's okay to remain in his shadows" wey we dey read since morning
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 3:40pm On May 13
raumdeuter:


Buy Guirassy and relegate every Nations cup when Jackson and Serhou go for AFCON

They woulda been sold before the next afcon
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 2:28pm On May 13
Spy360:

💯

AdisaOwala you heard him, respect yourself
...if you can

Alaye please quote the person that referenced you grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 1:58pm On May 13
Sportsweb:
Another thing is why is Arteta not challenging well in other competitions?

This is Arteta second performing seasons yet he has no strong foot in other competitions.

Was literally dumped out of FA and Carabao cup early this season.

Got eliminated by Sporting in Round of 16 last season and also didn't go far in FA and Carabao Cup.

If Mikel Arteta was doing well in other competitions and even winning of them, arsenal fans won't feel bottling EPL that much.

Instead he is about deliver back-to-back top four spot and trophyless should City ends up clinching the league this season.

For those that will attack me, I'm aware Mikel has won FA Cup in 2020. What has he done with this supposed Arsenal Golden team im terms of silverware?


The following trophies are the most important to most fans here - more important than the recognized Trophies by relevant football authorities:

1. Finishing runners up to Pep

2. Winning 27 out of 37 league games

3. Finishing with 90+ points in the league

Even though I believe things would be a bit different outside Nairaland, One of the reasonable ones here has summarized the disgusting mentality with the post below, so there is really no need for any more arguments. grin

iamoyindamola:

Shut the fvck up
Let them win it and get credit
No one fvcking remember second or die trying wannabes
Winner takes all, too many losers embracing mediocre here I wonder how your life is outside here

You were the same person worshipping wengay for his failures until he was sacked

Yoruba will say dabi moseda
That's if you're a failure you won't see anything wrong in others failing

Change your stupid mentality so that you can improve
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 1:18pm On May 13
BlueRayDick:


Number 1 problem he has is that he dislikes Pep. I have seen him constantly downplay Pep's achievements when they do their merry-go-round arguments about Pep's acchievement on Chelsea thread.

The fact that he doesn't rate Pep, it's quite expected that he would also transfer the hate to Arteta who happens to be Pep's protege.That should tell u where he's coming from.

U can see most of the points he's been raising since yesterday lacks objectivity. He comes up with the worse case scenario when talking about Arsenal under Arteta

Oh so this is one of the reasons behind y'all's "victims mentality"?

This is why y'all prefer to do rankadede and admit Pep as personal lord and saviour instead of focusing on the available opportunities/improvements that can be utilized to win the league at the expense of the other rival teams, irrespective of how good their manager is?

At this rate, it seems y'all would rather finish 2nd to Pep than win the League with Chelsea/Liverpool as runners up
grin

The situation here is actually worse than the initial prognosis
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 10:48am On May 13
BlueRayDick:


So u would rather we call for the sack of a coach who about to finish the season with our second best point haul in history?

Trophy 1

BlueRayDick:

Or we should wear sack cloth and throw ashes on our head in a season we have won record 27 games out of 37?

Trophy 2





In your post, you have confidently celebrated two major trophies that are more important than the PL

Congratulations on the milestone achievement! cheesy

P.S - I never for once advocated for the sack of Arteta....at least for now

Rather, I am saying that unnecessary sentiments gotta be put aside if y'all wanna win the PL.

Playing the "Pep victim" wouldn't help the club bros.

Na PL be this - anything fit happen.

For example, Next season, any club fit just change owners, come assemble the Mbappes, vinicius jnrs, etc of the world

By that time, una go change the narrative to "ah, that team is the best team ever, we are more than happy to play second fiddle"

I hope y'all wouldnt look back and lament bitterly for not winning the league when you had the best chances (last season and the current one).

By that time, na only God knows where una go dey for league table.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 10:06am On May 13
Spy360:

You can lie to yourself that you can beat Anthony Joshua and then call it mentality. No it's called stupidity.

While being the best can be the goal, it will start from being second to the best. That's more reasonable and a better mental drive.

If the manager thinks like this then he deserve my respect and has my confidence that he can beat Pep. In reality that is the case. And he did beat Pep twice in the year.

Here is a short clip of Caragher celebrating being joint no 20 best in the world with Ronaldo in 2005

https://youtube.com/shorts/Cceg2czMXoI?si=j4DIYXEPVx1tBvKQ

Una just dey enter inside trap the more grin

Didn't Ole solskjaer have an impressive record vs Pep?

You are even using Jamie fûcking carragher as example to buttress your stand. Lmao

Like I said earlier, the Wenger era has really damaged so many things at the club.

I wish Una speedy recovery grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 9:40am On May 13
Spy360:

A student is dragging his professor for two years and you are not compassionate. How many times did Klopp beat Pep in 8years?

We are not giving an excuse for not winning the league against Pep. But we are not also going to sack Arteta for not beating Pep.

If I finish second to Messi or Ronaldo in the Balon Dor stand, I will consider myself world best of the rest.

@Jodera etc, you see the mentality wey we dey talk?

If the manager is thinking like this, how una go win anything?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 8:41am On May 13
eph12:


I agree with Rooney. Most of the senior players have downed tools for this season and hiding behind injuries to avoid playing. Its not like they were even playing anything before, just to avoid criticism. They did the same last season, the season before and the ones before that. If most of them are still our core players here next season, we will have another very bad season

Yeah

It's more of a case where people are calling in sick for "slight headaches" and Catarrh.

ETH has lost the dressing room apparently and the players are simply not bothered again.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of them already have the "no be him go coach us next season" mentality already, so they couldn't care less.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 8:22am On May 13
Mrviktor:
If rash ..Maguire..Bruno.. are not fit for next wek..den problem

Even when they were fit, what did they achieve?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:14am On May 13
BlueRayDick:


Oga u are jumping into a conversation u don’t know its origin.

For the past 3 weeks or thereabouts we’ve been reading about how Arteta should be shown the way out if he fails to win the league or rather “ if he bottles the league “

We’ve been asking the proponents of these arguments who they suggest should take over from Arteta if the club management decides to take such unreasonable decision and nobody has been able to come up with a name that is convincing enough.

We’ve even given example of how ur own club has gone from appointing one bad manager to another while spending heavily while at it as a caution but they won’t have it.

U are saying we are using Pep as consolation but we’ve asked u and others to name coaches u know that have successfully dragged the league with Pep in the last few years but all heard in return is a deafening silence . To sack coach no be issue , getting a replacement is . Chelsea sacked Tuchel and replaced him with Harry Porter see where that has led them .

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AdisaOwala: 7:57am On May 13
nonny1212:
What your team lack is drive and force. You guys should push for haaland to come. Right now, your team is just like an upgraded Newcastle. Mid and average players without drive. Mark my words, madrid will dominate la liga and spain for so many years.

Keep on hoping for the messiah from la mesia.

We don tell them many times but them no dey hear word..

All these Ferranmi, Cretinous vermin etc wouldn't take them anywhere but they keep hyping them to high heavens..

See as a Barca fan dey wánk to the name of Everton's Onana FFS!

The standards have really dropped grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:34am On May 13
BlueRayDick:
Arteta-led Arsenal team is on course to finish the season with 89 points; the second best points haul in the history of the club…… like second behind the invincibles’ 90 points.

But all we are reading here is that Arteta bottled the league and needs to be shown the way out despite dragging the EPL title with Pep till the last day of the season.

One lesson I’m taking away from all these is that if people no like; dem no like u. They would always amplify your inadequacies while ignoring the positives u possess . It is understand if rival fans troll us with usual trophy-less banters , but for an Arsenal fan who watched Arsenal win 27 EPL games out of 37 this season trolling the manager who did that ?

Omo!

I’m just glad that those making decisions at the club are people who don’t make decisions on emotional impulse but rather on measuring progress made by the manager

I am sure nobody sincerely meant that baba....

If anything at all, the "criticism" stems majorly from the disappointment of "being so close, yet missing out again", under similar circumstances that the manager somewhat had control over.

Again, the way y'all are so quick to bring in Pep into every discussion as some form of "consolation" is worrisome tbh. Big clubs with champions mentality do not care if the rival manager is a Pep+Ancelotti+Fergie clone - all that matters most is winning.

If the takes were in the form of "Ah, We should have won this. Hope Arteta has learnt his lessons. We go again next season", perhaps there wouldn't be so much backlash.

Arteta has done well at the club - I am not sure anybody is disputing this or sincerely calling for him to be sacked. However, if y'all are to be champions, some sentiments gotta be put aside and issues gotta be addressed, especially those that seem to be repetitive.

On a final note, God go punish that bald fraud Bin Laden for making me come to Arsenal thread to dey sympathize with una angry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:42pm On May 12
Spy360:

I don't see how someone would be jealous of his own success. It was like they wanted Arsenal to drop points so that they will have points here. Which kind of mentality is that?

Instead of celebrating a win against a tough opponent at this stage of the season they are whining about not playing tiki taka. Iberiberism 😂

You dey criticize person for being bad belle, yet see wetin You sef dey type

Man UTD that has lost 14 league games this season is suddenly the toughest opponent in the league grin

It's like those Wenger years of trophylessness has really dealt most of y'all a number cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:30pm On May 12
Shegzdave:

You go from thread to thread advising other teams, your team are in dire need of your services

No worry - my team is in transition and this season don go. grin

Point is we need to improve the mentality here otherwise y'all would backslide into the "top- 4-is-a-fantastic-result" abyss of those years
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:27pm On May 12
Jodera:

Shebi na by hook or crook we win Una today yet you dey troll us for not playing well.

Boss, forget this your yarnings.

What you said isn't even valid cos if we dropped drop points and I said that this your post would have been

When did I troll you for not playing well today?

If y'all managed to win vs Villa even with the poor performance, story for no different as we speak?

If you notice, most PL fans are even backing Arsenal to win the league, myself inclusive.

Na why that Villa loss dey pain me pass y'all sef because it even seems y'all are even okay with the possibility of bottling
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 8:22pm On May 12
Dantedasz:
The Sky pictures of the leaking roof at Old Trafford just shows how low this club has fallen in standards.

A minus 4 goal deficit in the league just sums everything up. Depressing.
It would probably be much worse next season if the INEOS blokes don't get their act together.


I am not too optimistic about next season tbh
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:19pm On May 12
Jodera:
Anything concern Arteta and iamoyindamola, just forget am

We win.... Complain
We lose.... Complain
We draw.... Complain


He wants us to play beautifully and perhaps draw then he'll start his "bottling" mantra.

Arteta gave over 30 weeks of beautiful football, E no sweet am. Na the match wey we need 3points possible and we got it naim be the reason why Arterta would never win league

When we see statements like those bolded one, it suggests that you might be satisfied with trophylessness, after all beautiful football was on display for 30 weeks.

Broda , win league first (either by hook or crook) before you begin reason this kain thing o otherwise una go tey for wilderness
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 8:05pm On May 12
mostob:
At this stage, I won't be able to continue o. Maybe take the argument to your own page and ask your fellow fans. Or better still find someone over there to explain to you.

Nothing to explain oga

90+ points FC

And might still be trophyless

Continue o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:56pm On May 12
mostob:
Mathematically, 90+ points is the same thing as 114 points which is the highest possible points in a season. Tell me how 114 points is not enough to win a league. Dem dey correct you, you dey form. grin grin


Fact remains : you would most likely miss out on the PL again this season even with 90+ points yet you are still shouting 90+ upandan

Una no dey ever learn ni?

Like I said, no wonder 4th place was seen as an achievement those years - the winning mentality is just not there!

I wish Una luck sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:43pm On May 12
mostob:
All what you wrote here na unnecessary shalayes. A 10-year old football fan is aware of this. Where you goofed is your inability to understand the simple mathematical explanation of 90+ points.
Admit that and move on.

It is you who isn't making any sense because that same 90+ points would most likely not be enough to win the league this season but yes, it remains the ultimate goal.

Make una continue with una poor mentality - una no go win anything tangible for years to come!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:39pm On May 12
mostob:
Very simple stuff... 90+ in other words translates to a minimum of 90 points. That's very clear and easily understandable now.

Oga - you would have 90+ points this season and would most likely still not win the league unless city drop points.

The champions mentality comes with many facets - knowing when to maintain winning streaks, knowing when to avoid defeats etc but no, 90+ points is the main goal

Make una continue o

No wonder y'all were always celebrating 4th place those years ..

Like I said, una never ready
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:34pm On May 12
mostob:
Banter aside, I really don't expect you not to know what 90+ means.
Like, Jodera was giving the team a minimum of 90 points as a target FFS.

We are saying the same thing na

Is 91 points not 90+ points?

Make una continue to dey find 90+points

Unserious pipu
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 7:10pm On May 12
Jokerman:


Tucheliban or Bin Laden... Either way, na abyss o 😂

But it seems one of them would be in charge next season na

Mehn, how did we get here?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 7:10pm On May 12
Jodera:

So 90+ is not a winners mentality.

Anything just to say sha!

Oga - this mentality suggests that you would give your self a pat on the back at 91points even if the potential champions are sitting at 95.

Maybe it's even this type of reasoning that made y'all play so horribly vs villa

Like I said, if naso those at the helm of affairs dey reason Una matter, y'all are in for a loooong ride.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 6:59pm On May 12
At this point, the choice between the appointment of Tuchel and the club retaining Bin Laden, is similar to choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

It's like the club might remain in the abyss for an additional 2 years minimum before we get any respite

May God help us through this perilous times o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AdisaOwala: 6:39pm On May 12
Broda sodiq, you mean you really wanna celebrate a double over the current UTD team?

na statements like this dey make people feel say una no deserve to be champions, I swear

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