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Musiwa is it that you didn't read the article well or your just simpleminded? FYI nigerdelta/southsouth is not an Asari dokubo creation. |
Let tompolo have it, he's a son of the Nigeria Delta soil.its his land being polluted to feed the fraudulent contraption called Nigeria. Better tompolo than a northern general who has never even visited the ND.Hopefully tompolo has the good sense to employ ND citizens. Talk about empowerment. Kudos goodluck.this is a windfall of amnesty. |
Kobojunkie: Jeez dude, aren't you asking for too much there? Afterall these are your typical Nigerians here . . . . |
"They didn't put oil on their land "says an ignorant ignoramus.they shouldn't get a Any special allocations.but Its okay for their land and their waters to be polluted. How cruel can people be |
You all seem to forget that this is what yaraduas amnesty package offered. Money to militant!! Besides can you compare what they get to what northerners with oil blocks get. |
Get ready for mend chapter two this time it will be bloodier. And while they are busy claiming littoral rights all on shore oil blocks belonging to northerners should be forefeited, surely that is fair!!!!. People will be shocked when they calculate 200 nautical miles andfind that not much is left. The Niger a Delta should also field huge bills for their environmental degradation. Imagine aboki olin saying we can't manage our oil resources what do they have to show for their ground nuts and agriculture and their general mismanagement of Nigeria during the long period of northern rule. Desperadoes grasping at straws. |
Nigeria is also illegal. The Naija deltans never signed Jack to be part of this fraudulent contraption |
@PAZIENZA, you've said it all ."ekpeye are of no strategic importance to the igbo nation".so we know there is no love lost, its all about economics . "THIEVING ROGUES , SHEDDING CROCOIGBO TEARS AT THE LOSS OF MORE OIL REVENUE IN YOUR DELUSIONAL BIAFRA". @NRI_DEMON we arent important yet abagworo is sooooooOOO obsessed with us. yall"s igbotic asses are all over portharcourt ,bayelsa and every little village/creek in those parts. @BLACKPIKIN "smaller and redder beads "dont equal cheaper so pls dont pop a vien you might just bleed till you need a blood transfusion, for real. besides every rivers woman who knows about "kilali" knows the igbos wear a different type . you all need to qiut having convulsions over us its pathetic. |
And who told you the flat is in Manhattan? .as far as I'm concerned diezani didn't start the corruption I'm nnpc however time will tell us who is innocent she or her detractors. Nigerian masses believe they are benefiting from oil subsidies. In the short term maybe but in the long term definitely not. |
R u saying bethrotals are illegal during war? |
I meant who's the big oaf here.not bigger tribe. |
@odumchi I'm not here. To argue over controversies which have been rehashed a million times in the past.the fed recognizes ekpeye as a seperate ethnicity so who's the bigger idiot . here. the here.@abagworo I repeat abiriba and ebiriba are not pronounced the same .abiriba is pronounced as ahbreeba while ebiriba is aybeereeba with e as in the vowel a, or as in the word hay. As for dressing ekpeye do not wear tiger head they wear woko, doni.the workout can be worn under wrapper the ikaki bite as kalabaris call it or is worn over trousers. Some men use the red cap like the igbos while most others wear the bowler hat aka resource control. Our beads are also heavier and tend to be pinkish while igbos wear much smaller / thinner beads which are red in colour.usually one layer. In ekpeye land both men and women traditionally wear beads while in igboland (some parts) women did not wear neck beads although Customs have changed. |
I just want to refute certain assertions that have been made on this thread. 1."ekpeye is the twin of igbo" .ekpeye has no ancestral links with igbo. Ekpeyes ancestral links are with some families in ogba land and some parts of ikwerre land 2.ekpeyes do not generally believe that aklaka came From aboh but from benin and married a benin princess called iyavwame. 3.Abiriba and Ebiriba village in ekpeye land are not pronounced the same way. 4.akpofia is a corruption of the name ekpeye not vice versa. 5.Ekpeye population is not 150k but about 400k .go to Rivers state local govt commission and find out. to rfrom |
Worship me but there are lots of implied verses. When the three wise men saw OUR LORD JESUS ( the Maggi) they also worshipped himr.there are lots of verses in the Bible.that acknowledge the divinity of Christ and a lot of them have been pasted on this forum and ill paste / repaste . The same way Mohammed got revelation from Allah and believed in those revelations is the same way xtians read the Bible and get the revelation. Afterall no one saw angel Gabriel. Talking to prophet Mohammed except himself and you know his own peeps didn't even believe at first. Truthfully most of the ealrly Islamic conversions where at sword point. The Bible itself says the message of the Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing but it is the power of God unto salvation to them that believe. If you still feel we haven't answered ur questions that's OK. The logical mind can most times not understand spiritual things .even the Bible says. GOD uses the simple thbeings to confound the wise. YOU can never understand spiritual things with a carnal mind. Pretty much the same way an atheist will not understand ur belief in Allah that you've never seen. May Gods peace and grace Bewith you let the discouurse. Cont. Lots of typos I'm using ma phone |
Hi lagoshia I've read the eight pages of this thread and finally decided to add my two bits.I'm new on this thread . But ill try not to be biased. Firstly ur questions howbe it simple are innapropriate. You are asking this questions from a Muslims perspective but the pillars of Islam are different from xtianity.every religion is based on different tenents / believe.therefore if you are waiting to se e where the lord Jesus asked xtians to practice xtianity then you will never become an xtian. Because xtianity is not based on these for example our country Nigeria was called Nigeria by Flora Shaw a British not by We Nigerians by today we are known as Nigeria does that render our identity as Nigerians null and void?.I know you are very passionate abt ur religion but just calm down. Trust me no human being can convert anybody from one religion to another it is by the power of God ( I mean genuine heartfelt repentance. Not at gun or sword point).so the point I'm trying to say is that you have to ask appropriate questions to get corresponding answers. If you even ask a Buddhist or hinduist this question you may also never get an answer.try to be open minded for the sake of this forum . I hope you understand. My line of reasoning. I can also liken your conditions to soeone saying I will not be a Muslim except someone shows me a picture of Allah. You know this is impossile and is not a tenet or requirement for Islam. You didn't have to see Allahs pic to become a musllim. Some people on this thread have tried to explain the scenario ,someone. Has even answered no the word does not exist in the Bible so what Areyou looking for. Even if you were given an answer I know it would not change your Islamic faith because that is what it is FAITH.I WILLPOST THE MEANING OF THE WORD FAIH LATER. as to second question I personally can not give a Biblical verse right now which in our lord Jesus says |
@ezeagu. Go ahead and descripe. whatever situation. Like its not the same resources maintaining you and Yur states. I will say it again biafra is dead and gone. Never to arise stop living in the past .landgrabber.the Almighty Lord saw thru Yur gimmicks .that's why biafra will always fail. |
My mistake,igbo. was taught in churches not schools. .simple most of the catechist were igbo/trained in the igbo language. If you don't understand my prior write up I can't go over explaining again. It is ethically wrong to try to rewrite my history just to prove your on point. @ezeagu if you really want to know how we feel about being about being called igbo hiding behind the keyboard is not the answer go to ahoada or an ikwerre village and chant igbo kwenu. I dare u. Rather than trying to build relationship you want to enforce your lies on us it didn't work during biafra and will never work @abagworo rewrite all you can. You will never build bridges but resentment. Which Iam safe to assume is counterproductive except your original intention was to breed hostilities |
at abagworo, firstly i still take offence from your quote "recently manufactured history ". regarding the ekpeye . recently manufactured by whom? our close neihgbours engenni ,abua, kugbo,ogbia, kalabari ,ikwerre ,degema have always known our history so where and what encyclopedia or research material are you getting this story from?. secondly you did not render the complete meaning of the chorus of that song and lastly you didnt render the meaning of the entire song .(pls dont go to your ekpeye friends now and ask them the meaning ). rivers state languages english ethnicity translation thankyou/welldone kalabari imiete thankyou/welldone Ikwere meka thankyou /welldone okrika imama thankyou /welldone ekpeye meka/ emele/imeme father ekpeye /kalabari/ikwerre /okrika/izon ida/da/nda/da/dau respectively the ekpeye also use "IDA'" to mean GOD. the ekpeye never had a titulary deity like some other ethnicities .ebilikpabi was venerated in ekpeye like it was in most parts of the former eastern region nembe ,kalabari,ikwerre peeps all went to arochukwu to settle their differences .back in the day alot of easterners believed the supreme God aka long juju of aro had its priests in arochukwu it was not peculiar to the ekpeye. the ekpeye worshiped different gods. chi ukwu and chi neke came into being for the ekpeye with the teaching of igbo in ekpeye schools and churches you dont have to concoct false stories to advance your territory .abadaba has even lied about being from ahoada just to claim ekpeye as igbo .abagworo, i used to think you were on of the reasonable voices on nairaland but you just seem to obsess over contentious issues. if you wan be portharcourt citizen we fit consider you . just show some respect |
At abagworo Because a village in Ekpeye is called Ebiriba, You now want to rewrite our history. What is this obsession with igbos trying so hard to disprove Ekpeyes Benin history.This is history that has been told centuries before the whiteman came or the biafran war. You make my ancestors out to be liars. Considering the fact that cross rivers state and benin are miles apart. Stating that our history needs more research is a politically correct way of saying my ancestors are liars . |
late senator francis ellah was an ogba man .former ahoada local govt comprised the abua , engenni, ekpeye,odua, kugbo, and ogba . later ndoni and egbema were added to rivers state . currently ogba people are in ogba ,egbema,ndoni Lga and no longer in ahoada . |
at chyz thats an article from a journal that i quoted ,pls read properly. secondly try to check up the meaning of the words language and dialect and this should help clear some of your confusion . a dialect is also a language by itself . in the study that late proffesor kay williamson and roger blend did, the central form of igbo was referenced as the standard igbo language . |
The classification of Ikwerre as an Igbo dialect remains a subject of controversy among a minority in the Ikwerre community, although most publications classify it as an Igboid language. Based on lexicostatistical analysis, Kay Williamson originally asserted that the Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba, Etche and Igbo languages belonged to the same language cluster or related languages, but maintained that they are not dialects of each other.[4] Subsequent studies by both Williamson and Roger Blench concluded that the Igbo, Ikwerre, Ogba and other sister languages, except Ekpeye, form a "language cluster" and that they are somewhat intelligible among them.[5] If there was an original Ikwerre language separate from Igbo, then that language has been lost and replaced by a language that is sister to Igbo with no evidence of it ever existing. Taking the dominance of the Igbo language into consideration, the linguistic affinity between the two languages and the high frequency of bilingualism among the Ikwerre community, researcher Kelechukwu Ihemere supports the classification of Ikwerre as an Igboid language, and that there are indications that the Ikwerre society was bilingual even in the pre-colonial Nigeria, with people speaking other Igbo dialects and Ikwerre.[6] He carefully adds, however, that if the relationship between Ikwerre and Igbo is solely due to contact, further studies into a proto-Ikwerre language would be necessary.[6] No such language has been proven to exist. Phonology |
more on dialects fistly the word dialect probably does not exist in my ekpeye or your igbo language (please educate me if it does) so we can safely assume that we learnt it from the british . if we agree on this then lets take some european languages as an example e.g the name peter peter : english pierre : french pedro : spanish pietro : italian peter : german even with the obvious similarities each of them is classified as a different language , different nations not "englishoid" pray tell why should my ekpeye with much more variation than this languages be called igbo? if some of the groups you say are "igbo" had populations in the millions e.g if ikwerre had twenty million people and spoke the same language as they currently do would you still insist on them been igbo? (just asking ). besides political reasons and maybe economics is there really any other reason e.g love for your brethren that makes you want to claim these groups ? because if it was really love then you would not get so aggressive, and abusive , quick to label them silly ,moronic,foolish ,idiotic , backward . love the bible says is patient ,kind,caring ,not envious, longsuffering. it is not domineering, controlling and brash, cursing people out just because they say they are not igbo. |
at udezue alias "one great igbo nation " you make me chuckle.i have told you i am ekpeye so i have nothing to prove. you on the other hand insist i must call myself igbo, like I've said severally and at the risk of sounding like a broken typewriter. If abiriba ,ukwani, aro, even if Scottish people decide to call themselves igbo that is not my cup of tea . what other tribes/ethnicity's choose to call themselves is up to them, my duty as a well educated citizen ,with political savvy is to respect their wishes not go to war with them over their ethnicity ,so quit giving me your expired and worn out aro ,ajali,abiriba or whatever you call them examples. i am ekpeye period . secondly i am not avoiding your question .rather i am trying to educate you. To your questions 1.i am not sure of the exact number of alphabets ekpeye has i can research that (most african alphabets are taken from english language anyway). 2.we have a dual market day/calender system .we have the one in four where "eke" is the main market day like some igbo, the other days are called Ehwo, Udhie and izu and then we also have an eight day system 3.come in ekpeye is Jaa (pronounced like the english word jar ,with the R been silent). you can go to the ekpeye site on facebook to confirm . |
abadaba:abadaba ,if you indeed are from ahoada like you claim , answer my questions i posed to you in another thread and then lets continue this conversation in ekpeye. if you tell me you cant speak the language then you automatically are not fit to rep my people . |
at macjive 01 thank you for your respectful use of language .we can actually have a discourse because you have exhibited openmindedness/maturity i will respond to your points the next time i log in. |
if you are from ahoada which village ?. is it west or east my mom is from ahoada so i be your sis no worry i no go rumble with you . just tell me your villa make i hail you |
at udezue if you dont get what come is in ekpeye then please quit this forum .and if you get it right then tell me how much it sounds like your igbo" bia ". iam eagerly awaiting this particular response . in fact as for udezue you didnt even know the real name for ekpeye until recent .you kept saying "ekpaffia" in your previous posts which you obviously saw online.and you have the nerve to define my ethnicity!!!!!!. the good lord did not name any ethnicity man did . Guess what! udezue we get to choose who we are because we are in a state and region that we want to be in not with you in the south east or in imo or abia state so honey we do get to choose. we also got to choose the more popular option naija not biafra hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( thanks to my british friends with their more sophisticated mojos). with people like you and andrew trying to define who iam, life would sure have been hell in biafra. |
at uduezue and mr andrew as usual you both use the same tired and worn out arguments that do not make political relevance . naming one family or person here and there ,using the issue of dialects that is so controversial . being a patron or associating with an organisation does not neccesarily make you igbo. i dare chibudoms father to go to his own hometown and announce to them that they are igbo .you say i may not be igbo but ekpeye are igbo are you not contradicting yourselves ?. I do not deny the fact that the ekpeye have had significant influence on their language and culture by the larger igbo nation but they have also been influenced by the ijaw , the igbani and their edo roots as well .you talk about francis ellah yet you forget to mention the upheaval that his stance at the constitutional conference caused him when he went back to omoku .Ask any ogba man well versed in political affairs if he was not almost lynched and asked to withdraw as their rep. Address the obvious issues i have raised, like if a great majority of ekpeye agree to be igbo why is there presence not visible in ohaneze .Why do we have a sovereign ekpeye body called uzugbani ekpeye like ikwerres have ogbakor ikwerre?, why do we have an eze ndigbo in ahoada town? , why did we opt to be part of the COR state and niger delta region even before the war ?,why is there no clamour to join the south east? ,why did our reps at the constitutional conference opt to be in south south since the "great majority of ekpeye are igbo . At uduezues question ,you tell me the name of my ekpeye market days and how many ,you tell me what come means in ekpeye and tell me the alphabets since you claim to know much and while you are at it tell me how ekpeye people greet . ( when all the igbo groups were summoned to announce biafra why didnt ojukwu summon ekpeye ?). you still havent told me if you have been to any ekpeye town or village . the issue about who fought and didnt fight against biafra was to totally disprove your lie that all of ekpeye supported biafra . |
abadaba:please what part of rivers state are you from? |
udezue:of course if udezue the champion of the igbo expansionist movement didnt reply with abusive language as usual his day would be miserable .you make such an awful poster child for igbo unification.you really put people off with your attitude which is more likely to shrink the igbo population .you are already loosing chinenye the ngwa representative .please stick to facts and answer my questions/points that i have brought up . if ukwuani ,abiriba want to call themselves igbo it is up to them not up to you or me. do you even know who coined that term igboid and in what context it was initially used ? who told you all of ekpeye fought in biafra the reason you spew such ignorance is because all you know about ekpeye people is what you read off the internet and i know where you got that from .for your education the ekpeye like most other groups in old rivers state were divided .i know people who fought for biafra and people who fought for the Nigerian army. what repression did they face? please give me some examples . it is not in your place to argue with me over my ethnicity let my ekpeye brothers or sisters who consider themselves igbo champion that cause .i know that you love the idea of one great united igbo country but trust me sitting behind a computer and trying to bully people with fictitious tales is not the answer .go and spend time in these places and get to know the people and their history . |
Andre Uweh:I have read a lot of the crap and lies that you you tell on this forum .Hiding behind a computer and typing crap seems to be your stock in trade , but sorry to burst your virtual bubble. firstly have you been to any ekpeye town or village ? how many ekpeye people do you even know ? iam yet to see one ,just one genuine ekpeye person come on this forum and agree with you . so where are the "lots of ekpeyes'' you described above hiding .The rivers state Govt website that you all happily quote describes the language as lower Niger or igboid . in my dictionary the suffix oid means "sharing some properties of" not sameness , But since you went to a school in your war (biafra )stricken village i don't expect you to know the difference . The ogba people you so gleefully claim have a standing rule not to sell land to an igbo person since the biafra war .Going by your assertions that means that they do not sell land to themselves how ironic . It is quite pathetic that you spend time arguing with other people about their ethnicity it really is pathetic Mr Andrew uweh .This people you constantly claim are obviously not clamouring to be recognised as igbo why is that? most of them do not play active roles in your ohaneze and they are not even clamouring to be included in any south East state . An individual or family may have strong ties with the igbo and therefore identify with igbo but that does not speak for the entire ethnic group . so stop mentioning one person or family rather you should show me political associations and organisations of the ekpeye clamouring recognition as igbo .lastly lets not even go into the dialect vs language issue because your entire argument is defeated if you choose to go that route .i know my history and my roots and my identity . your pathetic assertions do not change anything .if there even be some remote confusion about my identity let that be my worry not yours. |

as a seperate ethnicity so who's the bigger idiot . here. the here.