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Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 11:53pm On Oct 29, 2015

mnwankwo:
the Grail Message has to be experienced in its intrinsic, unbound and living nature. Thus, my perception is that those who dispute which edition is correct or not are trapped within the limited and transient forms of the Truth. To consciously recognize God and the Grail Message, one must go beyond forms, words, sentences and thoughts. An alert spirit will recognize the Truth irrespective of which edition of the Grail Message he is privileged to come across. Indeed, the Grail Message can be recognized even without coming in contact with the editions of the physical form of the Grail Message.

When we have recognized the message of God the way I outlined above, only the desire to love God vibrates within our souls.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 11:20pm On Oct 29, 2015

Blatantly, the new testament also contradicts the old testament.
Men can't do without confusion, can they? Maybe we love it.

Well I need not worry myself if I should ever get my hands on the old version of the Grail message. I'll just use good old 'Merger'.
This is just exactly how I read the bible. I can't just dump the old testament, because Jesus didn't come for this to happen. Also, I wouldn't dump the new testament because that's just not right!
So what do I do? I read both testament, and let the Grace of God guide me.

Maybe there is a purpose of having two versions of the Grail message: to separate the wheat from the chaff

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 10:27am On Jul 15, 2015

Brilliant and thorough!

Thank you so much for your time and patience. You saved me from developing headache. There is so much that lies within this book, seems like vast knowledge compressed into a book. With your explanations and some reading, I begin to see some truth in the book afterall. Maybe someday I'll understand it as a whole.

Thanks. Stay refreshed as always

Christianity Etc › Re: Three Arguments For God's Existence by aGerald(m): 12:30am On Jul 12, 2015

Group A believes in God
Group B is sure there's no God
(There might also be a group C who just was proof of God)
When group B dies, they cease to exist.
When group A dies they go to heaven or hell.
We all get it! And because this issue has been argued for centuries, can we now go to bed?
When we wake up, we pop a bottle of beer. And while sipping slowly, we hum what we both share in common: I exist and I'm loving this bottle of beer

When one dies, whatever he believed in while alive he is then free to experience, nobody's business. That is to say, whether he is supposed to be conscious or not. Arguments doesn't really matter but that everyone should believe what he/she believes in.
(My last sentence too has also been used for centuries)

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by aGerald(m): 11:21pm On Jul 11, 2015

Thought I should ask the catholics here:
(my questions are not concerning the title of this thread)

Was Mary perpetually a virgin? And what proof is there of this?
Did she assume to heaven? proof?
Was she the woman talked of in the revelation of john? Cause I see no reason why Jesus will be at the mercy of the devil, whom he should be greater than.

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 8:12am On Jul 11, 2015*

Please I would like to understand this gift of 'free will' better.

Let's take for instance, a good man who was robbed near the bush in a lonely crooked street. When the armed robbers hijacked him, the first thing he did was to pray. The robbers snatched his money and his shoes from him. Then just when one of the robbers was about to shoot him, compassion from nowhere deluged the robber's heart so he only knocked out the man, took his car, and they all drove off.

This same incident happened to a wicked man. The difference was that when the robber raised his gun against the man, he was only too glad to kill him, then drive away with his car, and smoke some nice hot cigarette happily. And so did it happen.

I know very well, this could be the law of reciprocal action operating. But it could not be if man was utterly in control of his will.

Take for instance: What prevented a bloody criminal from exercising his free will, which at that moment was to kill and steal, on encountering the innocent man? That same criminal also got more urge in taking down the wicked man (This urge in my explanation is logical, because in as much as the robber had compassion for the good man, he should then have more urge in doing evil to the wicked man).

With his utter free will, he should have shot both men. With an external force deciding his will, he will then spare the benevolent man, but kill the wicked man.The Grail message teaches of protection obtained from a good karma.

So, is the situation thus: that we have free will; then the law of reciprocal action cannot hold, or that the law of reciprocal action (law of GOD) is supreme and must be, and therefore the free will of man must so be suppressed?

A quote from the bible briefs up what I'm trying to say "Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come Jn3:30"

With all these, my personal belief as of now is that there is freedom of choice but no free will for man.
Please kindly explain the concept of free will better.
Many thanks..

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 8:08am On Jul 11, 2015

Thanks for your reply to my question.

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 7:45pm On May 03, 2015

OK, but water can only passes through permeable substances.
I will reflect more carefully on what you said, and re-read the lectures you stated, and hopefully I shouldn't have any more questions concerning this.

I came to understand that animals are animistic, and after their maturity on earth return back to the animistic world.
Thus one soul for one animal quite ordinarily!
What about those minority creatures, those one who don't even know they exist but all they do is cause destruction every where? There are so many of them.
It's funny to say they have a purpose on earth, and after that they return to the animistic.
They are so useless and I don't think they can participate in any thing at all in the luminous realms.
Among these are the disease vectors.
Thus my question is: What drives these things? Is it God? The elementals? What is their purpose? Why do they exist(I'm not talking about the obviously useful ones)? Does a germ have a personal soul of it's own? Where do they go to after their cycle? And in fact, what is really the untold purpose of the animal?

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 9:12pm On May 02, 2015

Substances of the same species are impassable? Yes.
Does a man on earth have an ethereal covering in addition to his physical covering? Yes.
What happens when a man walks towards a soul in the beyond that is exactly opposite him? There are two things involved:
1. Either the soul passes through him as we see in movies, or
2. The man that still has his physical body, in addition to his ethereal body, pushes away the soul. After all, substances of the same species are impassable (notice that the on-earth man has an ethereal body too)

On earth here we have things called walls, fences, etc. In the ethereal world, we can have walls and fences too.

Now what if a man on earth is walking towards an ethereal wall in the beyond? Will he pass through it or will the wall be destroyed?!
He need not be intuitively perceptive!
He need not be spiritually active!
He still has an ethereal body within him, so will that ethereal body pass through the wall or destroy it?!

Thanks a lot for your time and answers so far, they've really helped me

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 10:52am On May 01, 2015

shinealight:
Which incident or occurrence are you referring to and which personality was involved?

There is one lecture; I think 'Departed this life' where the man touches his wife's body, but she couldn't feel it. Notice that the man's hand didn't pass through the wife's ethereal body. So assuming the man brought an ethereal object and hit the woman:
1. She will not feel it
2. It won't pass through her (because after all the man's hand couldn't)
But since we are surrounded by the ethereal world, it means that there are lots of object around us, say an ethereal dagger. Why do we pass through this dagger, or any object at all and nothing happens?

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 7:44pm On Apr 30, 2015

aGerald:
Also, since ethereal bodies cannot pass through ethereal objects just as a physical body cannot pass through a physical object (according to the Grail message), if an ethereal wall is in front of a man (with his physical body) how can he then pass through that invisible ethereal wall as if nothing is there? Doesn't he have an ethereal body inside him? Why didn't the wall prevent him from passing through?

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 7:38pm On Apr 30, 2015

I wonder...
If a divine being is to come on earth for a mission, at one stage or the other he will remember every thing of the past.
I understand it's one of the least reasons why they don't fail.

Now when it come to man, we forget every thing. Why must we forget! If we could just remember -- even if it's one of the most important things, I'm sure the world will not be like this today. What then is the necessity of this forgetfulness?

If this question had been answered, please kindly link me to the thread. Thanks in advance

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 10:27am On Apr 29, 2015*

shinealight:
A lot has already been posted on this thread by various posters (including myself) on the subject of Lucifer and his fall. You will find these posts if you go back to pages 2 and 3 of this thread. While many of the postings are quite insightful, they nevertheless represent the perceptions of the individual posters and should not be taken as sacrosanct or infallible. Nothing can really replace your own personal efforts at digging into the Source (The Grail Message) by yourself and drawing from the reservoir of spiritual knowledge contained therein. What you are able to draw will be commensurate with your particular level of spiritual maturity which will form the basis of your 'conviction' through inner experiencing. The effort you make and energy expended will also strengthen your spirit reciprocally as well as give you inner joy during the process of drawing and coming to recognition!
I wish you Strength for the task!

Yeah...

But thanks for replying to my questions

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 7:22pm On Apr 25, 2015

Please, can you brief me up about that fall of lucifer thing.

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 7:16pm On Apr 25, 2015

Thank you very much

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 6:12pm On Apr 24, 2015

Many thanks for your reply!
Now if someone is suffering under another person because of a crime he committed sometime in the past, does the tormentor have to err in other for the tormented to be redeemed?

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 8:32pm On Apr 22, 2015

But... if man has total free will, how can the law of reciprocal action be fully effective?

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 9:52am On Apr 21, 2015

@shinelight
Understood

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 11:46pm On Apr 14, 2015

The Grail message always talk about "THE COLLAPSE". I don't see anything collapsing, I only see improvements made on the already existing things. What do you see? how is possible for anyone to see other than "Improvements are made to the already existing things"?

If reincarnation is true, then why will someone who will be a no good not be forcefully prevented from reincarnating and incurring more karma on himself, if this "Divine love" talked about really exist?

Thanks a lot

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 11:33pm On Apr 14, 2015

aGerald:
Please anybody kindly help me out with some questions.

Indeed our Lord Jesus has no karma, then why would he suffer?
If the three wise men who came to visit our Lord Jesus could have supported him, then why didn't the angel who told them not to return to herod advise them towards taking care of Jesus.

Anytime thanks.

And also, since ethereal bodies cannot pass through ethereal objects just as a physical body cannot pass through a physical object (according to the Grail message), if an ethereal wall is in front of a man (with his physical body) how can he then pass through that invisible ethereal wall as if nothing is there? Doesn't he have an ethereal body inside him? Why didn't the wall prevent him from passing through?

Christianity Etc › Re: If You Meet Satan And You Are Allowed To Ask Him One Question, What Would It Be? by aGerald(m): 6:38pm On Apr 13, 2015

Satan is a deceiver. I don't think you'll finish asking him your first question, before he has tricked you exhaustively for your faith to shake and thereby doubts arise from here and there and before you know it you're already sinking in hell. But of course, not if you know the TRUTH which is GOD.

Wasn't this what he did to eve, and also made an attempt on the son of God Jesus?!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Some Ladies Attract Spirit Husbands by aGerald(m): 6:29pm On Apr 13, 2015

TopHand:
Oya baby u too talk, e get the spiritual wife, emm.. sorry I mean spiritual wives, abeg send dem come my side

abi?

Christianity Etc › Re: How Some Ladies Attract Spirit Husbands by aGerald(m): 6:24pm On Apr 13, 2015

lastchild:
what you wear doesn't attract a spirit spouse,spirit spouse claims you from the day you were born

I'm a professor in this issue

Doesn't harmonizes with the principles of a just and loving God

Christianity Etc › Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by aGerald(m): 2:22am On Apr 13, 2015*

Please anybody kindly help me out with some questions.

Indeed our Lord Jesus has no karma, then why would he suffer?
If the three wise men who came to visit our Lord Jesus could have supported him, then why didn't the angel who told them not to return to herod advise them towards taking care of Jesus.

Anytime thanks.

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