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Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 11:02pm On Feb 02, 2017 |
Permission to fall in sirs! For those of us who do not understand why banks in the US close people's accounts and ban them, just last week, Western Union paid the US Department of Justice a settlement of $586,000,000.00 (five hundred and eighty six million dollars) for anti money laundering and consumer fraud violations. Read here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/western-union-admits-anti-money-laundering-and-consumer-fraud-violations-forfeits-586-million So tomorrow if Western Union refuses to send your paltry $10,000.00 or gives you a hard time before sending your $3000.00, you know why. It is easier for a bank to lose your $100,000.00 business and never have to deal with you than for DOJ to slap a fine of millions of dollars on them. kaboninc, sanky346, tooltip, hazzantazzan, FYI 2 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 8:29pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
HazzanTazzan: I never said so. Ask for evidence of things I said not things you imagine. My account was frozen and closed as a result of a deposit by jaady and during the freeze, I had no access to money I had in the account. Ayo paid ADDITIONAL money into it (despite the fact that I told him repeatedly not to do so). Before then, I had no idea that a frozen account can still even accept deposits. That was his SECOND deposit and I have not accessed the money since then. I paid him his money (in naira) so all the money trapped in the account is now MINE. Understood? NB: I paid him based on his word and the deposit slip he showed me and I have not been able to even confirm that the money was indeed paid o! He assured me that if I am unable to confirm he will refund me but I think the slip should be good enough. That does not negate the fact that he should never have put it in in the first place. 1 Like |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:39pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
Bookiemart01: It has ended aunty. This is just fluff. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:30pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
sanky346: I don't know the relevance of this information here but what I know is that in the same conversation, I told you never to deposit money in my account. You agreed and told me you will never do so and have taken steps to ensure it never happens but you have since done so four times claiming "mistake" each time. Why did you skip that part and provide irrelevant information? |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:25pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
MaziOmenuko: I agree with you. This case has been settled. All we are doing is time-wasting, thread-derailment and possible delay of investigations. The outcome of the settlement CANNOT be improved by whatever happens here. It can only worsen it. I probably should stop replying people abi? |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:19pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
HazzanTazzan: It is not a new claim but has been there all along. I have been saying that this man deposited money into my account four times despite asking him not to do so and you never asked how the previous ones went. One was an obvious fraud and I rejected it through the bank immediately and another I paid him. You were quick to threaten with little understanding of the issue and all you succeeded in doing was slowing down the investigation. This man paid in money into my account that was frozen for closure. Unknown to me, it could still accept deposits because it accepted his deposit. I was kind enough to IMMEDIATELY pay him even though I could no longer log in to confirm it. I took his word for it (probably because it was not too much money - $1500.00) and and as you know, the bank still has not released the money to me. O boy na wa for you and evidence. You only need to demand evidence when one or more of the parties involved is not in agreement with the stated claim. Here is how I see you: Me: Ayo paid $X into my account without my permission and I will not release it. Ayo: I for the fourth time paid in $X into Uche's account without his permission and he will not release it. Mr. HazzanTazzan: Uche show me evidence that he paid $X into your account. You get my point? My evidence is Ayo (sanky346). Ask him and he will confirm all my claims. We are in agreement on just about everything so no evidence is required. 1 Like |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:57pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
onatisi: Simple to you but not to me. Banking in Canada and Nigeria is not the same as banking in the US. The banks are highly regulated and have very strict rules. You cannot keep paying money into my account "by mistake" practically every week that you have known that I am in the US since asking you not to do so. It is unacceptable and I reserve the right to a fair investigation as to why this keeps happening especailly because I was on my own and this problem keeps bringing itself to me not once, not twice, not thrice. He can now start depositing "by mistake" into someone else's account while I conduct my investigation. He (sanky346) is right. I said it and will say it again - I WILL NOT AUTHORIZE ANY TYPE OF RELEASE OF THAT MONEY BEFORE I CONCLUDE MY INVESTIGATION. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 5:01pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
EnterPRO: The unknown effect of his cash is the bigger problem and it will only take time to find out. The last time he did this, I paid him and I am still dealing with the consequences alone. Like I have said over and over again, Bank of America still has the dollar but I have already paid him. I am no longer going to do that because I am rewarding bad behavior. He will now have to partake in the waiting because he keeps on doing it despite asking him repeatedly not to do so and his promising it will not happen again. I wish I could do something different but in reality, I cannot. 4 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 3:40pm On Jan 13, 2017 |
ib22003: Is he going to pay for the investigation and my time and effort this has chewed up? How much is he going to pay for the inconvenience of paying unwanted money he paid into my account that the bank has been holding for over a month now? How much is he going to pay if this other bank blacklists me because of his third and fourth unwanted deposit? The point is that I told this dude over and over and over again that he should NEVER put money in my account and he keeps doing so. Coming to think of it, there should be a financial penalty for doing that beyond waiting for 7 months. 5 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 9:03pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
chiefkpokp: If you have no expertise in the subject being discussed or if you do not have the ability to make sense of words and make a meaningful contributition, sometimes it is best to just stay silent and not expose yourself. #JustMyTwoCents 4 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 8:52pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Kenooff: May sound crazy but any cash transactions of $10K+ have to be reported whether or not you structure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structuring). As you can see, it is even worse to structure because it appears that you are trying to avoid being flagged. I do not make bank policies but they are what they are so it is not a lie. Notification of the bank will be happening after the fact because the reports on the transaction has already been made on the deposit and if it goes out in cash that is, another report will be made. That is what I am not prepared to have on my account. I hope I clarified it enough? |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 8:05pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Kenooff: Please what part(s) of what I said do you consider lies? I'll gladly clarify. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:40pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
helpee: This isn't Access Bank. You will not understand! Even the owner of the money understands and he has not even opened his mouth to tell me to return the money. He is holding Ayo accountable for giving him the account of someone who does not want the money. I have told him I will not release the money for reasons he is very familiar with and he gets it. If my position makes me a scammer, so be it. This was no mistake on his part!!! I am prepared to go on the journey with the little support I have from Ayo's friends I do not even know. My mind is made up and whoever does not like it should open an account in the US and have someone consistently deposit cash you do not want in it and tell me how it feels when the banks hold your money. 1 Like |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:17pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
aginamuk: Or will you claim that I did not tell you I won't be buying any more funds from you after the jaady fraud? Or that I did not tell you after the "pet supplies" lady incident? Or I did not tell you never to do so again after the next deposit in my BOA (which I still have not accessed as we speak)? Or I did not tell you never to deposit after the 1st deposit on Monday (abi Tuesday) yet you did it again an hour later. Na wa for you o! One more time, I will return your money after I confirm that the bank will not hold my money after I release yours (should confirm this after two statement cycles with no issues ETA March/April 2017) AND after I gather a conclusive conclusion to convince a reasonable person the reason why this keeps happening. Everything else we are doing is just wasting each other's time. 1 Like |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:11pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
sanky346: Please how does this justify the fact that I told you repeatedly never to deposit money in my account (since the jaady incident) and you keep doing so? 2 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 7:03pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Thisnut: By the way, just by the way, while I was away, Ayo (sanky346) deposited money mistakenly into mata1ng's account and guess what? His account is now being closed and he is dealing with the consequences. This guy knows exactly what he is doing and I will not condone it anymore. I dey on my own and he is attracting fraud and wahala to me and some of you think it is fine? 6 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:49pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
momentarylapse: You guys keep throwing around the word "scammer". If anything, I am the one being scammed here. I have been going about my business with serious warning never to involve me in any currency deals and THE SAME PERSON keeps putting (sometimes) fraudulent money in my account. I am the victim here sir! 3 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:31pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
pinkyruledworld: Thank you for your objective comment. You darn well know now that the mistake will never be made again. This was what I expected after the first time. 2 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:24pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
sanky346: Data mix up the first time may be understandable but second, third, and fourth With all the lies in between, I do not even believe the first was a mistake now. It is not a gift. It may be an attempt to clean up dirty money. 3 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:20pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Donpizzle: I don't eat paper You can flog me all you like but that will not make my investigation any faster. You guys in naija just don't get it. One of the guys Ayo sanky346 asked to call me got off the phone with me moments ago and after explaining to him the same thing I have said here over and over he said: "Someone has tried the same thing with me and he kept sending me money gram even after I told him to stop. Stand your ground and teach him a lesson and hold the money. Seven months may be too harsh but do like two or three months and he will never deposit in your account again." FYI: I do not know this guy from Adam. Ayo gave him my number to call me and "beg". People in the US get it. Even the person that deposited the money in my account gets it. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 6:12pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Thisnut: Follow me ask my brother. He has now had four deposits "mistakenly" into my account. Keep in mind that none happened while I was away. It is carefully staged and I am having none of it anymore. Please keep depositing. This one is 7 months, the next will be one year. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 5:14pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
sanky346: You are correct. I will not do that until I conclude my investigations into why it keeps happening. Takes approximately 6 months. An additional month for threatening me. Clear enough? 2 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 5:12pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
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Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 5:09pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
helpee: No problem. When you finish tagging me scammer come and get the money out. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 5:07pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
mployer: Thank you sir! |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 4:48pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
sanky346: The last deposit in my account from a lady paying you for "pet supplies" was that clean? I have made no purchases since the jaady issue because I no longer want to go through the months of pain and time wasted and I made it known to you (and everyone else) that I will no longer buy over and over again and you keep depositing in my account. Nobody else has done so. Sir, this will only make this bad situation even worse. Even a call from Buhari will not make me clean up that money before my investigation is concluded. You are still getting responses from me so enjoy it now cos it will soon seize. I have just attached screenshots of the dirty money that was previously paid into my account. Notice how just a few days later in December another "mistake" was apparently made? 1 Like
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Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 4:44pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
mployer: It is not that clean cut sir. It is cash so I will not not be able to ascertain its cleanliness until the bank authorities do so. If this qualifies me as a scammer, so be it. I accept the tag but it will not change my position. Thank you for your input. |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 4:08pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
agarawu23: I paid him the first time because I believed it was a genuine mistake. He may have credited my account a million times when I was naive but the moment I got in trouble for the deposit jaady made, I seized all currency purchases and communicated that with not just Ayo, but also tooltip, and others. For the umpteenth time sir, I have no way of knowing if the fund is fraudulent until I conclude my investigations (which will take approximately 6 months). You are jumping into something you know nothing about and you are getting it really wrong so I will refuse to go into this back and forth with you. You have exhausted your slots because you cannot seem to have a meaningful and civil conversation. Bye now! 9 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 3:56pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
Bookiemart01: Thank you my sister. I am glad you get it. I have told him repeatedly that I WILL NO LONGER BUY FUNDS FROM ANYONE (but my friends and family I physically deal with and know what they do and how they get their money). That he should please stop making any deposits to my account. In fact, I considered closing the account myself and opening a new one but the pain will not be worth it for me. First time may have been a mistake which was why I immediately paid him but a second, third and a fourth I am not a clown so he needs to take my words seriously and nothing will make me get that money out before I conclude my investigation. If I was the one in this predicament, I would brainstorm to see how we can together get the investigation to end in June or May but this guy is arranging touts to threaten me from Nigeria. If only they knew who they're dealing with. 6 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 3:48pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
agarawu23: I am answering your questions out of courtesy. I do not have to if I do not want to. Ask Ayo anything I have said and if he tells you any of it is factually incorrect, then and only then can you ask me for evidence. As it stands, I do not have to deal with you. Talk to your friend. 2 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 3:45pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
agarawu23: I will try to address all your statements so please bear with me. All you know is that she paid me N1m but what you do not know is that Bank of America has held my N10m+ since then. I cannot take someone holding my 4.7m that is the reason why I will not pay it into someone's account that has repeatedly told me I should not do that in the first place so I have every right to dig into why that keeps happening. At this time, even N400/$, I will not even buy sef so that is not up for discussion. He will get his $10,500.00 back after my investigation confirms that the money is clean and that my bank has no issues with me because of that deposit. You keep throwing the word "evidence" around and I have told you that when I conclude my investigation (in roughly 6 months), I will show you all my findings. I have spoken to the owner in the US and made him no promise to pay. Please do not say what I did not say. What I have told him is that I do not know who he is and told him my position and that I have made it very clear to the person I know - Ayo. He understands where I am coming from and blames Ayo for doing what he keeps doing and lying about it. I am Igbo and I like my money no less than you like yours. I just will not serve as a medium for cleaning up potentially dirty money. I will pay as soon as I conclude my investigation. 3 Likes |
Business / Re: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by aginamuk: 3:37pm On Jan 12, 2017 |
HazzanTazzan: Taking the money out infact will be double red flag so NO. I never wanted to deal with this and if I tell you the cost of my time, you'll know that I am on the losing end but I will not keep rewarding bad behavior, it will never stop. To answer your question (why hold the funds in my account), it is to ensure that I see the effects of the money before releasing it and to afford me enough time to understand why Ayo (sanky346) keeps putting money in my account despite repeated and harsh warnings not to do so. 4 Likes |
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