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prinzfavian:
Abraham is in his grave resting,just as those that died before and after him is too (ecclesiastes 9:5),he is awaiting resurrection as promised @John 5:28.... There won't be any reason for resurrecting him, if he is already alive now...

Is his grave Abraham's bossom? What exactly is Abraham's bossom?

prinzfavian:
Stop getting this wrongly, Soul as used in the Bible has a traditional rendering of the Hebrew word neʹphesh and the Greek word psy·kheʹ. In examining the way these terms are used in the Bible, it becomes evident that they basically refer to
(1) people, (Ge 2:7, Num 31:28, 1 Pe 3:20)
(2) animals, (Ge 1:20, Num 31:28) or
(3) the life that a person or an animal has. (eccl 3:18-20)
In contrast to the way that the term “soul” is used in many religious contexts, the Bible shows that both neʹphesh and psy·kheʹ, in connection with earthly creatures, refer to that which is material, tangible, visible, and mortal. In many translations, these original-language words have most often been rendered, using such terms as “life,” “creature,” “person,” “one’s whole being,”... Ecclesiastes 3:19 helps us to see that Man and animal are same in the sense that they both have one spirit not soul, and both have same outcome when they die... So if a dog doesn't have an immortal soul that goes on living after it has died, how can a man have?...
Man doesn't have a soul, Man is a soul (gen 2:7)
Soul isn't immortal cos It can dies (Ezekiel 18:4,20)

You have not provided answer to my question. Let me add some more :
1)Which part of Man goes to Paradise (if he makes it) after his death?
2) In Genesis 2vs7 what does the breath of God stand for?
3) If indeed as the scriptures have it in Ezekiel , the soul dies then is the soul only useful here on Earth?
4) Is the soul a material or immaterial part of Man?

prinzfavian:
Yes the whole of him dies.... Eccl 9:5
No other part goes on living after a person dies...
When a man dies his spirit returns to God who gave it at (gen 2:7) and his flesh returns to the dust.... Eccl 12:7.

Man is a soul... and since man dies, it means soul dies... Even the Bible confirms that a soul do dies at ezekiel 18:4,20 and be destroyed @ acts 3:23..... Even animals are referred to as souls (numbers 31:28)
Please reason along, if the soul were to be immortal why do we come across verses of the Bible that uses the term "living soul"... Wouldn't that be repitition of words or tautology... Since the soul is said to always be living... Why the reference to a" living soul"?... So this proves that the soul is not immortal, instead it shows that for a man to die, it's his spirit or breath that needs to be taken out of him (psalm 104:29)... There is no even mention of Man having a soul in that verse, just breathe.
So, don't get it twisted d soul isn't what a man has, it's what a man is... The soul is made up of flesh and spirit (gen 2:7).

Good explanation. But is man a soul or a spirit? Because if man is a soul and the soul dies, with what does he face eternity? Remember, what he posseses in eternity is who he really is

removetheturban:
Cool! So, you flow with the flow, in other words, you are fluid.

From your personal standpoint, why do you think Jesus said that his father is his God?

Was Mary his mother? Is God a person or a personality ? Remember he was 100% God and 100% man on Earth. Sometimes he acted up his man.

Peacefullove:
Dead in the actual sense of the word ?



To be active is to be alive , Didn't you said he was dead for the period ?



But did he went to Paradise that day ? don't forget u already said he was dead for that period

You didn't answer my questions? Could Jesus have lied about what he said to the guy ?

Peacefullove:
Teachings of Christianity, he came to die for mankind's sin .

he ( Jesus ) himself . not Body of Jesus .



As defined by someone on this thread , The real person ...

So am asking if the real person called Jesus died or not ? or he himself didn't die just his body died

For the period he was dead was he active outside the physical (bodily) realm? What did he mean when he told the guy on the cross that he would be with him in paradise that day?

Peacefullove:
One fast question: Was the translation wrong ?

Were the other translations wrong?

Peacefullove:
Teachings of Christianity, he came to die for mankind's sin .

he ( Jesus ) himself . not Body of Jesus .



As defined by someone on this thread , The real person ...

So am asking if the real person called Jesus died or not ? or he himself didn't die just his body died

Please explain the two scriptures for us to understand 1 Corinthians 11vs23-27 and Hebrews 10vs5-10

Peacefullove:
Lol, So you don't even know


Darby Bible Translation

for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; - Leviticus 17 vs 11

So how could his soul be immortal of his blood was shed ?

Why did you choose a translation that uses a word that suits your belief over others? You do know that soul denotes life in the translation you just quoted . I knew his drive was to 'prove' the mortality of soul and counter the truth of eternal punishment in HELL FIRE �

salvation101:
the Bible says the lifr of the flesh is in d blood where did u get soul from.. Soul is a different part of a man... Body is one, soul is one and spirit is one... Flesh is body

Maybe their own translation of the Bible. I knew he quoted it wrongly (possibly intentionally) . Bros yeee, please quote Leviticus 17 Vs 11 for us so we can 'move forward '

Peacefullove:
Sir, the bolded is hilarious .

How could His blood be shed if his soul [ person of Jesus ] cannot die as preach by your beloved Salvation101?

remember : the Soul of every flesh is in the blood says The Christian bible , So how could his blood be shed if Jesus soul could not die ?

I hope 1 Corinthians 11:23-27 and Hebrews 10vs5 -10 will help you. What did Jesus come to do on Earth? What is the soul of a man?

removetheturban:
I was banned since yesterday. All fingers are pointing to hairyrapunzel. You did a good job but am back

Really? Was there a reason?

removetheturban:
She is an independent thinker and she uses ERV. Would you want to assume the ERV?

Solidarity for the truth one knows is fine. I don't need to overthrash what is trashed already. I use any version . I believe she focuses on that for clarity of language/diction for such 'interchange '

Peacefullove:
You earlier admit Jesus was alive during the three days , Simply means He wasn't dead . Abi

But now you focus the gear at Jesus didn't have to die, just his flesh is enough . Can you back this up with your bible ? Didn't Jesus said his soul [ his real person ] will die for mankind's sin ? was he telling a lie ? how could his soul die if his soul was IMMORTAL ?

Are you attempting to prove the 'mortality ' of man's soul/spirit thereby thrashing the truth of eternal punishment of sinners in HELL FIRE?

salvation101:
lol.. Failed logic....
Man is a three partite being.. Abraham according to the Bible died and was buried but according to Jesus story, Abraham was d one talking with the rich man in hell... His body was still where his sons laid him but he was alive here in paradise. The death necessary for the redemption of man was the death that Jesus died. Wch is death of the body..

Well done. Thank you for keeping the flag of truth flying. It is simple to know that it was his blood that was shed. Some of the questions asked with the intention of proving what is outrightly wrong makes me laugh. O Lord open our eyes to the truth and not religion Ephesians 1 Vs 17-19

salvation101:
u don't need to hide behind another muniker, i know d kiddo responsible for this already ..

Busted!

oshe11:
Nice tale but dont U tink it is wiser to abstain FULLY

AS IN WHAT IF THE GUY YOU DECIDED TO GIVE IT TO

1. MAKES YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE DWINDLE

2. GIVE U BELLE

3. INFECTED YOU WITH STDs

Or uses U for ritual or any other unfortunate circumstances that u listed above?
I no the percentage of what u listed is higher when u "fucvk anyhow" but that doesnt mean ANY/ALL of it cant hapen wen U do it even ONCE IN A YEAR, RIGHT

Just think about it dear....

TOTAL ABSTAINANCE IS BAE

Too correct

alexialin:
Yes o!

That's one of my calling later on the nearest future.

Thanks for recognizing this rare gift.

How do you know it is your calling? If it's your calling totally avoid shagging and develope yourself for your calling

removetheturban:
Good! Death is the opposite of life and we will talk about death later. Back to the topic. You cannot base your knowledge on Salvation101 because salvation is a personal race. I asked you, can you tell me the Bible version that most appeals to you?

I don't have anyone of special interest, though I use King James mostly. I only meant I shared same opinion with Salvation101

removetheturban:
Good! Tell me the Bible version that you consider as the best.
Yes, I read your earlier post and thanks for posting what was not related to the question that I asked..
Nevertheless, I will post the question again.
Do you believe that God can die?

Salvation101 has done justice to your question already. But if you think God can't die and as a result If Jesus is God he ought not to have died you missed it. What is death?

removetheturban:
If you claim to have the Holy Spirit, we will not doubt you. Tell us, where or when did the JW ever tell you that they do not believe in the Holy Spirit? Please provide and evidence.

Please study my post very well. I didn't spell out JW. You are insinuating. Can you enlighten me on JW's teaching on the Holy Spirit?

gloria34:
never met 1

Really? Look very well. There are a lot around, even on Nairaland

salvation101:
u can say dat again.. May God open their eyes

Christianity without the Holy Spirit is mere religion. Having a form of godliness 'but denying the power thereof '

salvation101:
ask anyone who doesn't believe in trinity, 90% chanceis dat he believes d era of Holy Spirit av past..its one of their distinguishing attribute

Then they need serious help. What is Christianity without the Holy Spirit?

salvation101:
exactly.. Many of dem are those of the school of thought dat d Holy Spirit era ended with d death of Apostles.. Yet dey still believe dey are inspired

Anyone who says the Holy Spirit era ended with the Apostles is pathetic to say the least. What happened to Acts 2 Vs 37-39? The secret of power in the life of a believer lies in the operation of the Holy Spirit

salvation101:
it is his way of ending the conversation with you .. He wants u to lose interest and leave the thread like he did to so many before. U can also see dat same method was used for Hairyrapunzel

He must be a joker then. He is political in his response and wants a straight answer. Thank God for church history, but I believe in the help of the Holy Spirit.

removetheturban:
I do not think that you read the verse that you quoted. Here it is
Romans 8:11Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
11 God raised Jesus from death. And if God’s Spirit lives in you, he will also give life to your bodies that die. Yes, God is the one who raised Christ from death, and he will raise you to life through his Spirit living in you.

Can you compare your post to the Bible verse above and check if you are still on point?

I have answered your question already. If there is another one you may re-post it.
You told me that you were busy but I saw you active on other topics.

Do you believe that God can die?

It is funny you chose only a version that appeals to your taste. Other translations are in tandem with the 'Spirit's. I think if we marry them it means the Spirit is also God.
Have you read my earlier post so I can modify it?

gloria34:
but a lot of things still confuse me, I'm yet to see a guy who will stay in a relationship without sex. maybe being a gud girl no longer have virginity among its virtues.

There are godly guys, and can actually stay in a relationship without sex. Virginity is a virtue

removetheturban:
I do not think that you read the verse that you quoted. Here it is
Romans 8:11Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
11 God raised Jesus from death. And if God’s Spirit lives in you, he will also give life to your bodies that die. Yes, God is the one who raised Christ from death, and he will raise you to life through his Spirit living in you.

Can you compare your post to the Bible verse above and check if you are still on point?

I have answered your question already. If there is another one you may re-post it.
You told me that you were busy but I saw you active on other topics.

Do you believe that God can die?

Really? Was I steadily active on the other thread? You want to expose my intention on the other thread. It is a case of covert investigation. It was once handled before and now it is resurfacing. Please confirm you have read this post so I modify it to the original conversation. I don't want the fellow to look me up like you did and discover my undercover operation.

gloria34:
I can't see d possibility in that. a guy can get sex anywhere, I believe in a sound brain, good manners, working hard and loving completely.

But a lot of girls try that. It's a terrible shame. Do girls realise even bad guys want to marry good girls? Why become a bad girl to have a good marriage?

removetheturban:
was he 100% man and 100% God on earth as you said earlier?
or do you want to change that your perception now owing to your recent post?
That is what your number seeker aigboeben also said

Why do you still call me out in your conversation with your favorite 'Salvation101'? I don't understand what you mean by number seeker? When I said I was busy I was. Besides I am not given to strife. When you showed no interest in being man enough to answer my questions directly I knew I was in a 'conversation ' with an 'APC politician that will rather blame PDP than face their tasks squarely '. Yes I still maintain my stance of him being 100% God and 100% man. When you are truthful in answering my questions and interpreting scriptures then we can make headway. Romans 8vs11 also tells us Jesus was raised by the Holy Spirit. How about that? Does it mean the Holy Spirit is higher than Jesus? Was Jesus referred to as God on Earth? Did he ever refute that? My question illustration with the Sun became rocket science for you. For the records, I didn't even bother to go to Greek or Hebrews to prove that. I rely entirely on the Holy Spirit John 16:13-15

[quote author=gloria34 post=64003729]that's true. but don't 4get guys need to work on themselves also[/quote
The focus of the conversation is on ladies, not guys. What do you say about ladies who think they can trap guys with sex?