OkCornel:


Kindly swallow your pride and admit that you accused me falsely of using a moniker for sinful activities.

What pride? I am sure your pastor and parents laboured over you to make them proud but you are clearly drifting from their goal for you. Remember to be respectful to others not only online but physically. Your panicking about being labelled hypocrite speaks volumes. Clear conscience fears no accusations. Please apologize to your pastor tomorrow in church

OkCornel:
@aigboeben...this is my alternate moniker.

I'm not a hypocrite that has anything to hide.

Kindly check OkaiCorne and OkCornel and tell everyone which of the moniker I'm using for sinful activities you earlier accused me of.

Why are you pained by the issue? Next time stay on your case and don't make mockery of pastors generally, which includes your pastor. Stay on your point and don't stand for what is wrong. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Your language should be respectful Pastor Titus

Smony:
Op, i guez wat daddy freez o frozen z tryin to pass acroz z dat doz so calld (slf-centre) men of God shuld preach mor of repentance, salvation n lov o charity dan emphasism mor on titthes n buyin of private jet n luxury cars which z nt relevant in d kingdom. pls dnt get it wrong, lest liv mor of Christ dan followin doz former babalawos in suit dat der lyf style do nt reflect Christ. mor ova GOD say go into d world n mak desciple, so he cn use anybody wit o witout ur permission. shalom

That's what it seemed like he was doing at first? But his mission is becoming clearer by the day. If he stayed clearly on pastors focusing on kingdom advancing issues more, he would have had 90percent of his current enemies as friends. Cos I know physical prosperity is not the primary focus of the gospel but an addendum

lonikit:


sir, did Bible say u can convert it to money and give to pastor pls be objective with ur ans

Do they pay tithes to pastor?

How come Daddy Freeze supporters are frozen on this?

UbanmeUdie:




Apostle sir,


By all biblical and conventional standards, tithe is 10%.

Nothing more and nothing less!


30% increment is no longer tithe but a sacrifice or seed or an offering.


When God asked Noah to build an Ark, he gave him the fashion and measurements. When God asked Moses to build the Ark of Tabernacle, he was given a fashion and measurement.

They both kept absolutely to the dictates and instructions of God.

Therefore, over zealousness is not godliness. It is simply spiritual rascality.

1 Corinthians 14:40 says; "Let all things be done decently and in order".



On this; I am with Frz.

Is tithe itself not a sacrifice?

They prefer Malachi to Deuteronomy because Malachi is a more recent revelation than Deuteronomy

I had a dream where I wanted a great man of God to use his tambourine to touch mine, but he had already dropped his in a big offering bowl. He called me and laid his hand on my tambourine, and then asked me to take off the slippers I had on.
Can someone please interprete this dream for me?

OkaiCorne:


And where did I conclude that my pastor is a fornicator?

When the word "if" is used in a sentence, does it make the conclusion a certainty or a probability?
English is not difficult to understand

I asked you a question on where God instructed people in the scriptures to pay Tithes in monetary form and you've been avoiding this question since... Please show us where God instructed people to pay tithes as money so we are sure you are not adding to God's words to justify your transgression of His instructions.

In Deuteronomy, you convert your tithes to gold and silver if your residence is far from the temple. When you get to the temple, you use the gold and silver to buy cattles, wine or whatever you want to and eat it. Therefore, you do not hand over gold and silver to the Levites but rather foodstuffs.

You have not provided any evidence of me using an alternate moniker for sinful activities.

Your logic is quite interesting, so the only reason people open alternative monikers is to indulge in sinful activities? This is the funniest thing I've heard in a while

Beloved you have implied that I don't understand English. When I wrote my O Levels I guess at the most you were still a foetus. You wildly accused pastor of fornication including your pastor, all because of Daddy Freeze. I told you about Deuteronomy that there was a need to convert it to money. And you ignored my mention of Hebrews 7. You didn't respond to my question whether the pastors eat the tithes. Go and ask for forgiveness for calling your pastor a fornicator. Learn decency of language and don't allow Daddy Freeze's blood flow through you. Be objective and not biased

OkaiCorne:


You said I'm using two separate monikers. One for righteous things and the other one for sinful things. I can quote where I stated OkCornel is my alternative moniker and my reason for opening it.

Please provide sufficient evidence that I'm using one of the monikers for sinful activities.

Malachi said bring the tithes that there might be meat or food (in some Bible translations) in my storehouse...not gold and silver (money).


I'm waiting for your evidence that I'm using one of my monikers for sinful activities. Thank you.

I am waiting for you to prove to me with evidence that your pastor is a fornicator. Money can be used to buy food abi? For the records pastors (full time) are on salary, the tithes is for financial administration of the church

bloodofthelamb:


It is wrong and a sin. The point is this we all do sin every day in one way or the other...

If GOD is keeping record of our trangression heaven will be empty.

Do you realise looking at a woman lustfully is an act of fornication according to GOD standard? I still maintain my stand, a sinner is justified by CHRIST.

Though, i may struggle with some sinful act, but i can never be cast away for CHRIST IS MY RIGHTEOUSNESS( using myself as an example).

Justified by grace without repentance and restitution? Justified by grace and you still continue in the act(Rom 6:1)I am sure you belong to the family that preach eternal salvation

paxonel:

Jesus was also rude to the Jews buying and selling in the temple. Was he sheep in wolf clothing too?
It does not matter the approach the correction is coming, it is left for you to take the correction

Jesus was blunt with the truth and not rude? He faced issues squarely, not by calling names or asking people to sharrrraaaap.

OkCornel:


If my Pastor fornicates in secret...only God knows, my Pastor can deceive me...but he can never deceive God.

Your Pharisitic allegations on me using two different monikers is rather funny. Kindly prove that I'm using one moniker for sinful things and the other one for righteous things. While at it, please check when OkCornel was opened...and my reasons for opening it. I can see you are really Christ like...Jesus would be extremely proud of you

Please answer my questions;
You said you pay your tithes to God, and I asked you the following questions you are yet to answer;

1) How can you pay monetary tithes to God if He never mandated the Children of Israel to pay it as money?

2) And who is the "Levite without inheritance" you are paying this tithe to?

Kindly answer these two questions. Thank you.

Did you read in Deuteronomy where option of conversion to money was given? I pay my tithes so there will be meat in the house of God(Malachi 3:8-12, 1Peter 2:9)Do you know we are now spiritual Israel by salvation? By the way you don't need 2 functional monikers on the same forum if motives are pure. That's is dual personality, very much like the Pharisees . Shame on you that you can't take a stand for your pastor but can do so for a renown fornicator and wife-beater. Better look for a church that you can vouch for the pastor. I will personally report you to your pastor

OkCornel:


Of course not...a fornicator is not righteous...

But bear in mind that an open and honest sinner is far better than a deceitful, self-righteous hypocritical Pharisee.
Certain Pastorpreneurs were involved or rather were accused in sexual scandals...and all of them denied it.
Isn't it interesting that at least not one of the Pastorpreneurs confessed to the scandals? or are all of them innocent?

Inasmuch as Freeze is not perfect, I am comfortable with someone who is open about his weakness rather than a hypocrite that would sin secretly and still claim self-righteousness in the public.

JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY...

You said you pay your tithes to God, and I asked you the following questions you are yet to answer;

1) How can you pay monetary tithes to God if He never mandated the Children of Israel to pay it as money?

2) And who is the "Levite without inheritance" you are paying this tithe to?

Kindly answer these two questions. Thank you.

Have you caught any of the accused pastor fornicating, and yet they denied publicly? Does your pastor fornicate?(You are yet to answer). Maybe you have caught him in the act. Or are you sexually involved with his wife? (Busted!) Your use of at least two(2) different ids (Okcornel and OkaiCome) shows your Daddy Freeze like character. One id for sinful post, the other for righteous post. Of course I am not surprised, Frozen Daddy being your pastor!

OnyeOGA:

Ezekiel is of the same opinion. He says: “Woe to the pastors who feed themselves instead of their flocks. Shouldn’t pastors feed the sheep? You eat the best food and wear the finest clothes, but you let your flocks starve.” (Ezekiel 34:2-3). Is this not directly applicable to many of today’s highfalutin pastors?
Isaiah says: “They are as greedy as dogs, never satisfied; they are stupid pastors who only look after their own interest, each trying to get as much as he can for himself from every possible source.” (Isaiah 56:11). Does this not accurately describe today’s pastors who use all kinds of tricks and shenanigans to fleece the flock of their hard-earned money?

You didn't bother to interpret Zechariah 1:17 for me, why? You didn't respond to the truth in my post rather foolishly attack pastors. I guess you want pastors to be beggars

bloodofthelamb:


A fornicator who has accepted CHRIST as his righteousness is righteous before GOD.

While still fornicating? What do you say about a woman who has married a man yet keeps a sexual relationship outside marriage?

bloodofthelamb:


RIGHTEOUSNESS is a gift we receive from GOD through grace in CHRIST JESUS. It is not something we are or attain.

THE GOODNEWS is this: Anybody can receive it, including Evans the kidnapper.

Is that the answer to my question you quoted?

OnyeOGA:
lemme just drop this verse for you.
“It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’” (Matthew 21:13).
Now a simple question what gave birth to these scriptures above The kingdom of God has nothing to do with money a creation of man. something that would pass away and be no more.
The issue of money has been a problem since the time of Isaiah, Jeremiah. Jesus, Paul, Peter etc

Please interpret Zechariah 1:17 for me. Did Jesus have a treasurer? Money is needed to finance the gospel. How can the church take the gospel round the world without finance?

OkaiCorne:


That's what you can see.

What really counts is what God sees about Freeze. He's the one to judge Freeze not you.

Bear in mind that self righteous Pharisees even called Jesus a Prince of Demons.

What question? Is a fornicator a righteous person?

OkCornel:


Check your bolded statement again before concluding I'm up to no good.

Only God knows if Pastorpreneurs are fornicators or have bloody skeleton in their cupboards.

By the way, what is wrong is wrong whether done in the open or secret. Freeze flaunting a girlfriend (and most likely sleeping with her) is wrong.

BUT that does not justify or make Pastorpreneurs who might be fornicating secretly any holier.


That's the point I'm making.

By the way...how can you pay monetary tithes to God if He never mandated the Children of Israel to pay it as money?

And who is the "Levite without inheritance" you are paying this tithe to?

Who do you give your offering to? Is your pastor a fornicator?

[quote author=OkCornel post=63315180]

Check your bolded statement again before concluding I'm up to no good.

Only God knows if Pastorpreneurs are fornicators or have bloody skeleton in their cupboards.

By the way, what is wrong is wrong whether done in the open or secret. Freeze flaunting a girlfriend (and most likely sleeping with her) is wrong.

BUT that does not justify or make Pastorpreneurs who might be fornicating secretly any holier.


That's the point I'm making.

By the way...how can you pay monetary tithes to God if He never mandated the Children of Israel to pay it as money?

And who is the "Levite without inheritance" you are paying this tithe to?[/quote
Who do you give your offering to? Is your pastor a fornicator?

OkCornel:


Can you boldly claim to say all tithe collecting Pastors (yours included) are not hypocritical fornicators? You'll be shocked at the bloody skeletons in the cupboard of these Pastorpreneurs you are paying tithes to. If you are not God that knows...please do not judge.

A fornicator whether in the secret or the open is a fornicator before God.

If you have never sinned and you will never sin or commit errors...feel free to cast the first stone.

Obviously you represent someone not good. Just imagine the way you carelessly stamp fornication on all pastor including yours (that is if you go to church). He showed off his girlfriend, and he's not bothered about reconciling with his legitimate family. When I watched for the first time his video recently , insinuating you don't need a pulpit to preach(why do you gather people and all that) I quickly knew what he stands for. Certainly this operation of his is not of God. For the records I pay my tithes to God(Hebrews 7:1-10)

PointZerom:
What your father told you cannot overule what my own father told me. I cannot be deceived by what you claimed your father told you afterall Eli was also a father that never told his children the truth.

On point!

paxonel:

You see your life?

were in the bible did you see that there is anything like false christians or non-born again christians?

Contrary to your school of thought , my bible tells me that WHOSEVER(including Daddy freeze, no matter how evil you think he is) believeth have eternal life. John3:16

Since Daddy freeze has believe that Jesus is the Christ what's your problem, are you his God?
Learn some manners lady! Rude reps of Frozen Daddy like you are pathetic representation of your camp. Ever heard of wolves in sheep's clothing?

For you to say he has not been speaking against the government it means cool FM is not in your area now.

Get some manners lad! Your rudeness does not signify correctness of your stance, rather a poor approach which is a proper reflection of what your camp represents. Ever heard of sheep in wolves clothing?

PaChukwudi44:


I didn't realize you have been appointed by God to determine who is born again? Have your pastors settled their fleecing of their flock?

FYI God used Cyrus even when Cyrus didn't know him to free the Israelites from captivity!!!

By their fruits we shall know them. Is a fornicator born again? What do you know about the Cyrus situation? Do pastors truly eat church tithes? Besides be mature enough not to insinuate what I did not say

pDudd:


Blah blah blah.

Like the other guy said, go and sleep. Freeze is just gathering momentum. Many more to come. Our mumu don do.

Why do you lack scriptural response to my post, but put up a ghetto act? Let's see how far he goes before he is frozen

saymax:


And u will b so shocked dat he will make heaven while u will not. U are not God.

Why are you pained in your response ? I didn't say there's no possibility of him making heaven. The Bible clearly gives conditions for making heaven and some of them he obviously flouts! Why do you think I will not? Grow up little girl, even your Frozen Daddy will not respond that way

paxonel:

You are wrong,
There is nobody that is ordinary in christianity.
We all were made priests through Christ, including Daddy freeze,not only pastors.

We are all equal in God's sight by virtue of Christ who is our only high priest.
Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion in christianity. So pastors should not impose their tithing philosophy to people and let them choose whom to believe, whether daddy freeze or them.

So far daddy freeze is getting a better argument than them and he is winning people to his side

So, go sleep

Only true born again Christians are priests, royal priesthood. The Freeze you call Daddy is not one. He is purely a tool in the hands of Satan. He should settle his marital life first. I pray he is not frozen soon. Why is he not courageous enough to speak about the government?

Glory be to God!

PaChukwudi44:


where in the bible did the apostles practise this form of tithing?

They practised a system above tithing, giving their all (Acts 2vs44-45, 4vs34-37). Do you want to try that?

martineverest:
ur number 7 point just made all ur points useless....... Y stop at vs 8 when verse 12 of that chapter says tithing is "useless"

Why don't you check vs 11. According to the Priesthood of Melchisedec Abraham tithed. And Jesus is after that priesthood

Can a doctor in the house explain what I am experiencing?
I have this painful feeling (like a seizure) in the bone of my left lap. Also around my knees sometimes, this slows my movement. And recently I have been hiccup-like feeling of blood flow on both legs. It has this feeling of blood pumping. What is the condition and what can be done to remedy it?