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elampiro:
Benzema >>>>>>> Suarez in goals. I have never deviated from this.

Suarez is only ahead of Benzema because he doesn't get substituted. A player with 90 mins will rate higher than someone who comes in to play the last 12 mins or forced out early with an injury.

Take your eyes to the bottom part of the chart, Benzema rated higher without substitutions. Suarez should be ashamed because he doesn't get substituted as much as Benzema. The more 90 mins you play, the more your whoscored ratings go up.

FW: Benzema 7.94
FW: Suarez 7.91

What makes a striker gets substituted than the other ? You don't substitute a performing player every now and then. This is even enough to let you know you are getting it all wrong. Should we blame Suarez for benzema not having enough game time ? You can play two games and have two goals that does nt mean you are better than a player with 6 in 8. Depay was the highest goal scorer in Dutch league but wjnaldum was chosen deservedly as the best player in Dutch league. Your whoscored rates Suarez as a better striker to benzema why can't you just keep it mute.

elampiro:

Now you go round circles. My argument has been very clear.

Bale and Ibrahimovic >>>> Suarez (in goals, Assists, dribbling, chances created)

Benzema >>>>Suarez (in goals) .

So whoscored was right to drop Suarez from that chart which gave birth to this argument.

Your whoscored only dropped Suarez for ibrahimovic. They did nt drop him for benzema. He leads others in goals in La liga. As an attacker squawka n whoscored state
Suarez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>benzema

elampiro:

Raumdeuter you are right. Look at what supposed football analysts are doing, total attacking ratings instead of per minutes played. I have challenged them to give us goals per minutes played using their own website.

You are trying arguing with these kind of people. Football followers who can't differentiate between goals per minutes and total goals.

What's benzema's goal per Minute aggregate against Barcelona , Villarreal, ath Madrid, Seville, Bilbao , Valencia and compare it to Suarez against real Madrid and the other teams listed . Come back and tell us, I'm waiting. You are comparing a striker whose most goals are taps in to Suarez. No wonder you always hail Rooney even when he was playing rubbish.

SIRcumalot:
so this no be science abi ?

Don't mind elampiro , only whoscored is credible to him, the one that made his Rooney man of the match. Benzema has 19 goals with 1 assist, Suarez has 20 goals with 6 assists. That means nothing to him.

stuff46:
And to even see that E. Beneger dictates the flow of Seville's game is what i dont understand if Airmark watch footie and still be ignorant.

Even Drinkwater offer's more shield to Liechester Defence when Kante move's deep into opponents halves. Kante more of like a dictator of the game and the balls he intercept, he does them in the opponents halves.

After watching kante in the gif below your barca colleagues will be convinced that you are supposed to be a lamurudu utd fan.


https://cdn.makeagif.com/media/2-11-2016/_mMfLS.gif

raumdeuter:
More pictures. Typing sensibly isnt your strong point, Just post pictures as usual

Whoscored : Hummels > boateng (2014/2015)

raumdeuter:
you forgot to post a picture this time?

Your boateng was not the bundesliga best cb last season yet you would n't let us hear word. I have posted it in your thread go there.

raumdeuter:
elampiro you see why I advised you against engaging this poster in an argument. He is so dull he cant string his thoughts together

See he is back to doing what he knows best posting pictures

I asked a simple question you are talking about picture. Whoscored that you regard as the best in the land did nt rate your almighty boateng in bundesliga best 11. It seems you have seen an accomplice in elamps in twisting facts. Answer the question and stop fooling yourself. We have told you boatank is not a great defender , your whoscored proved us right and you are here talking about picture. Shameless bavarian

raumdeuter:
[s]which is why he is a more intelligent poster than you would ever be[/s]

why is boatank not in whoscored bundesliga team of the season 2014/2015?

So dayo raumdeuter cant explain why boatank could nt make whoscored.com burnthisleaguedown team of 2014/2015 season? How can a defender who could nt make team of the season in his country league now be selected in best 11 in the world or europe? Never, over FIFA and UEFA dead bodies.


Whoscored.com : Hummels & Naldo > boateng (2014/2015)

elampiro:
Every intelligent reader knew I was referring to goals per minutes because I had clarified that when I brought Benzema into the comparison.

elampiro:
Benzema has scored against strong teams like Bilbao, A. Madrid, etc. And he is well ahead of Suarez in goals.

It seems you and raumdeuter have something in common. No wahala, what i know is no real madrid fan will prefer benzema to suarez at present, except a senseless and blind fan. Even you will prefer suarez in your man utd team.

SIRcumalot:
I don reach the conclusion say elampiro just dey do this for fun.

It seems so.

elampiro:
This this nonsense. Whoscored is a more reliable rating than this advance gugurakpa website.

Again, My first post was that Benzema had better goals per minutes played. So the flow followed from there.

You misinformed us that benzema had higher number of goals than suarez, my subsequent post made you recheck and you stylishly corrected it. Next time a little appology will do for the misinformation. Meanwhile, only a senseless madridsta will not prefer suarez in real than benzema based on current form. Was it not you i asked yesterday and confirmed de gea and courtois performed better than rooney only to change tune when you learnt whoscored picked rooney?. Credible ko, Terrible ni.

elampiro:
And you refused to see where I mentioned DeGea and Courtois as men of the match.

elampiro:
Benzema
UCL 66.8 mins per goal
League 70.8 mins per goal

Suarez
UCL = 90
League = 94.5


Suarez has only one goal above Benzema even though he has played 545 minutes more which is about six matches.

At least you have corrected your blunder.

elampiro:
Benzema has scored against strong teams like Bilbao, A. Madrid, etc. And he is well ahead of Suarez in goals.

The same benzema that pocketed by barca and just just dancing shakiti bobo on the ball without any highlight throughout. Below is something close to rating a CF. Every other thing you have been typing is laughable.

elampiro:
Benzema has scored against strong teams like Bilbao, A. Madrid, etc. And he is well ahead of Suarez in goals.

May be another benzema not Karim

Atlantian:
Ofcourse goats shall be goats. Sahara reporters have no equipment to triangulate calls, neither can they have access to the calls even through telecom servers. Not everyone on nairaland is a half-illiterate like our Oga in Aso.

Sarcasm at its best.

SIRcumalot:
why do you keep mentioning IBRA ?
if I put up 50 goals playing for that your beloved okomu oil will you give me the ballon d'or ?
stats are meant to guide not to follow them blindly and ignore circumstance.
he wasn't even nominated for top 10 because of that brief bout of vampirism.
If IBRA is so good why is PSG stalling on his contract renewal ?
IBRA at this point is solidly behind lewa,aguero and Suarez.

I just weak. I showed him how bale fared against stronger sides in la liga compared to suarez yet he is sticking to some ridiculous stats.

Atlantian:
People have rights to call anyone. The call interchange record that Sahara purportedly has, can not prove the voice content of those calls. There is no call recording showing what the discussion was.

Infact, if I was to buy a new sim card now and download truecaller and register the name Dangote with it, when people search my number on the truecaller database, it will show Dangote. Sahara Reporters can fool the majority of illiterate Nigerians, but you cant fool the few literate ones.

Someone who doesnt have truecaller on the phone should download it now and use the name Tarfa to register it, in 24hrs he should ask someone with truecaller to call or search the number, Tarfa will appear.

Goats shall be goats.

And you think sahara would be so stvpid not to have tested that line and confirm his voice and other researches to confirm the true ownership before going to press? Goats shall be goats sha. I concur.

elampiro:
20 in 21 because he was playing full 90 mins.

You should blame him for that, right? He is that good. Again look at the quality of sides he scored against. No sensible coach will bench
such striker for one minute at his peak.


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elampiro:
Story story, story!

Does Bale also play in Ligue2? How was Bale able to beat him in Goals, Assists and every parameter?

End of argument.

suarez : 20 in 21, bale 13 in 15. While bale was scoring 4 goals against the likes of vallecano and 3 against deportivo but could nt score against ucl sides like athletico madrid, sevilla and barcelona, suarez was scoring against athletico madrid, sevilla ,hat trick against bilbao, super hat trick against valencia which bale managed a lone goal against. To cap it all suarez scored a brace against real madrid while bale was one of the flops of the match, he fired blanks.
I support real madrid but these are facts

Nihilist:
Dayo has 2 heads and 8 lips, 3 eyes and 2 faces....
The other day when Kirchofff scored 2 own goals and caused a pen in just one match, Dayo quickly denounced him as a rubbish player that was also useless at Bayern.
The next match, in a game his team STILL lost, Dayo went to bring one statement from Sam Allardyce claiming that Kirchkoff should have been MOTM to use as 'proof' of the superiority of Bayern products
Dayo is just a naturally duplicitous muthafucker. The type that wears Snow Coats in the desert and Sunshades at Midnight.
Believe him at your own peril

raumdeuter:
When you have been schooled on facts and logic you usually resort to your extreme foolish behavior like this

Just answer yes or no bro. Was whoscored.com your trusted site, right not to put boateng in the bundesliga team of the season 2014/2015?

elampiro:
Goals
[b]Ibrahimovic = 78.2 minutes per giak
Bale = 89. 5 minutes per goal
Suarez = 94.5 minutes per goal

Minutes per Assist
Bale = 145.5 mins
Ibrahimovic = 205.4
Suarez = 315

Minutes per chances created
Bale = 30.6
Ibrahimovic = 58.7
Sharez = 72.7

Minutes per dribble
Bale = 44.8
Suarez = 78.8
Ibrahimovic = 91.3

Accurate passes per game
Ibrahimovic 37 Accurate /46 total passes
Bale 23/29
Suarez 18/25

* Suarez makes only 18 accurate passes per game, 25 total despite playing in a possession obsessed team.

* Suarez unsuccessful touches and dispossessed per game almost twice of that of Bale.

..........


I looked at Suarez's stats recently, I think it was in December, I saw that he was being fed in Barcelona. When I went back to his Liverpool stat, there was so much difference. Whoscored look at all these factors.

Messi takes the ball and goes past two men before before scoring or Assisting a goal, whoscored will record every effort put into that goal; the distance covered, the two succesful dribbling, the solo effort, etc. But when another gets a tap-in goal, he gets only credit for the goal.

On Gomez, whoscored also looks at a number of important stats.
Saves vs number of shots, Saves vs point bank Shots, Saves on one vs one situations. Errors leading to goal. I must mention too that the solidity of the defence also determines a goalkeeper's exposure.


[/b]

What's the quality of psg oppositions in ligue one. Dont be surprised a player in burundi league may cop better stats than ibrahimovic but put him against a poor team like troyes, he will be wandering more than bolton players. No one must say cos he has better stats than ibra he is a better player, far from it. Suarez in psg may even have better stats than what ibra has got. Fact is all those things you used to relegate suarez are faulty. A bale will have more assists ratio than suarez cos of his role. A striker having messi and neymar doing the dribbles and even scoring should nt be blamed if he has lesser assists and even goals but yet suarez has done well. We all know how ibra fared in barca. Scoring 20 in 21 in la liga is more impressive than scoring 21 in 20 in french league.
Dmcdad, bykebyke ibra sh1ts on your suarez.

raumdeuter:
[s]Hazard was best player, Depay was top scorer in the same season yet you call one a fraud

Anyone who tries to equate Neymar to Hazard is a fool and many people including 1bime and n1hilist have corrected foools like you to stop trying to compare Ikedia hazard to neymar[/s]

Since you have agreed hazard deserved the best player award in epl 2014/2015 Registered ®

What about boateng not making the team of the season 2014/2015 according to your trusted www.whoscored.com . Should we register this team list too?

raumdeuter:
I am sure you are another illiterate posing as a graduate. If you dont know about relativity

Nobody said Depay was better than Neymar or had a better season than his superiors in football unlike Hidden ikedia

The same Depay you tagged a fraud was influential in the same year 2014/2015. So how come Depay who was influential the same season Hazard was is now a fraud

Depay won highest goal scorer in a weak dutch league not like hazard who was the best player in epl 2014/2015. Consistently for 5 years he has been winning individual awards to show that he is not a fraud. Your calling hazard a fraud because of neymar makes you sound foolish. Give me just one name of a player that is/was a fraud with something like below individual awards.

raumdeuter:
If you try to equate an above average player to an excellent player that is fraud. if you equate otedolas wealth to Warren Buffet thats fraud

If you try to equate Hidden Ikedia to neymar thats fraud

Its basic intelligence but I know you cant understand.

Stop making a fool f yourself. No influential player like hazard in 2014/2015 can be tagged a fraud by sensible football experts. Dont redefine an english word as used in soccer realm. A good example of fraud is depay, who ironically you did nt see as fraud when we called him one earlier this season. I am not surprised for your misconception of that word though.

raumdeuter:
When I told you airmark had low football IQ and should stick to posting pictures you think say i dey lie

It was until Chelsea fans started comparing him to Neymar that I descended on him and exposed him for the above average player he is

Now he was above average, i thought you said he was a fraud?

raumdeuter:
Everyone don dey pay more attention to Hidden Ikedia Hazard and realize he is a fraud.

cc bigkesh, chelseafan1, nihilist

elampiro:
Hazard was the best player in EPL last season.

That's ok . Dayo will not like this.

elampiro:
I will respond to you properly later. I must tell you first that Suarez doesn't deserve to be there. I will tell you why when I get home.

Ok barca fans like coded01, dmcdad and mum, bykebyke, barcablood will also be waiting for you. Europe best 11 so far this season. It's going to be interesting

bigkesh:
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/real-madrid-fans-disrupt-bale-presentation-ozil-protests-3978319
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2410973/Cristiano-Ronaldo-angry-Mesut-Ozil-transfer-Real-Madrid-Arsenal.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2733072/CONTINENTAL-BREAKFAST-Real-Madrid-fans-want-Angel-Di-Maria-stay-fellow-Manchester-United-target-Arturo-Vidal-makes-Juventus-return.html
I think that's case closed

Do you think dayo knows anything apart from his burnthisleaguedown? He will still come and tell you that it was ozil german fans that protested not true real madrid fans

marqueetim:
DUDE THE GUY PLAYS IN TOUGH GAMES, NOT IN GAMES WE EXPECT TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD. YOU SHOULD FACTOR THAT IN WHEN BRINGING UP ARGUMENT. WE WUNT PLAY BUSQUETS AGAINST ALCORCON, BUT WE WILL PLAY HIM AGAINST THE MADRID, SEVILLA ETC THAT WE CAN LOSE.

That's brilliant. Do you believe whoscored is credible?

bykebyke:
You said this in the Man United thread
Can we please do as you've said?

Bad guy. Raumdeuter and elampiro can't say this. They can follow whoscored.com into the gutters.

Bykebyke

Since raumdeuter trusts www.whoscored.com's ratings as very credible and flaunted them on this forum. It's my pleasure to bring the ratings to his notice and seek for his opinion on ikedia's last season rating, alago not making burnthisleaguedown best 11 in 2014/2015 and busquets not making la liga best 11 last season too.


cc elampiro

elampiro:
Whoscored is the most objective rating, although there could be plus and minus. Whoscored sees what the ordinary eye cannot see. Rooney rated 7.8. When a striker or a goalkeeper rates 7.5 and above, it means he had a good game, particularly if the striker didn't record a goal to boost his rating.

You brought gugurakpa ratings from nowhere. I could do the same to suggest Rooney was the MOTM. I decided to stick to established and renowned rating sites.

Gugurakpa ratings Then post your pizzakpa ratings where rooney was the motm ahead of de gea , courtois, damian and costa. Most uk media that are known for hyping rooney's performances rated him lowly as i posted. How do you explain gomes as the best keeper on whoscored rating's best 11 so far this season as below or how Suarez could nt make the list. Leave trash for whoscored .

elampiro:
Whoscored rated Rooney the Man of the Match. It uses opta stat as its base for Rating. Rooney did more right things in attacking zone than Costa, that was why he had that rating. Rooney doesnt have to stay in the box always. Manchester United is not set up to play like that. Martial doesnt stay in the box while playing as number 9 for us. Our number 9 also involves in build up just like Madrid set up their 9 since Ancelotti's era.

Secondly, Rooney's touch for Lingard was a perfect touch. It was intended. Masterstroke! You have not been watching Rooney recently, his touches have been classical. His back hill goal, his back hill flick pass exchange with Martial. All these were deliberate. You are a joke.

I watched rooney recently and that was what brought out my opinion of his improvement. Now where do you stand, cos i could see you referring to whoscored rooney's rating. Don't tell me that they were right by naming rooney as man of the match again cos you made the statement below,

elampiro:
And you refused to see where I mentioned DeGea and Courtois as men of the match.

Dont lemme think you dont have a mind of your own. We all watched the match and we know how it went down. Your manchester evening newspaper rated de gea and damian above your rooney. His early season performances made his performance looked superb to you.

elampiro:
No wonder, e no even sabi argue.
Make I leave am.

Continue deceiving yourself only whoscored rated rooney as man of the match, even you initially rated de gea and dissociated from rooney motm nonsense before you started your macabre dance with dayo raumdeuter lately. Most known sources rated costa above rooney. So stop unneccessary rants.