Itsrm: This foolish Perisic has been directly responsible for two of City's goal. No wonder no top club looked his way. To think I was being fooled by his useless crosses
Bimffo: Threatening anyone with insults? You think I will throw the smallest hit first.
I won't if you don't do it first.
Bimffo: My own argument with you is simple. No manager gets his players sold without him knowing. All those megefegede he is saying for media is nonsense. We are not a selling club.
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Your argument was that Conte pursued Matic, which is a lie. He didn't support his sale and he publicly confirmed it. Unless, you have another update that debunks his claim, then that's what we have to fly with.
Bimffo: If Conte needed a player to stay, he would have got him. We sold Costa for him. That's how much he was stubborn.
And why are you always mentioning the whole of nairaland when you are arguing with anyone?
That's incorrect.
Chelsea board had strains with him on transfers and that's why he even had a poor 2nd season. In fact, he wanted Lukaku and not Morata. He wanted VVD and not Rudiger.
He was hell-bent on Costa leaving because he was embarrassed by the striker in the middle of a season and wouldn't want such to happen again, hence Chelsea had no choice on a player, whose loyalty couldn't be ascertained.
Don't use Costa's situation to now claim Conte pursued Matic from Chelsea. You goofed big time.
Bimffo: Keep living in denial that it was not Conte that pursued Matic and Costa.
The board will just wake up one day and decide to sell a player that just played a fantastic role in the team.
hensben: They have short memory. Costa opted to Kiev before season ends because he wanted to go cash out or return to Spain due to homesick. Conte convinced him to finish the season and then we will see from there.
I think that's the major cause of the criticisms of Chelsea's Conte. Not many remember the exciting football we played in his first season and how it later went wrong.
Bimffo: I decided to avoid your post because in the next few posts it will degenerate to insults, and I don't have the time this morning.
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Why would it degenerate to insults from you, if you have solid proofs to show that Conte pursued Matic?
I just exposed your arguing based on wrong premise just as many always do here. The much maligned Hensben also told you that Conte wanted Matic to stay, but you kept on arguing.
Accept that you goofed and move on, rather than threatening anyone with insults.
I trust Boehly. Will never give the mantle of that team to some1 that can threaten the board anytime, and decide to sack himself when everything is in shambles.
Boehly can never appoint Conte. The earlier you know this, the better for you.
Good that you have been educated that it wasn't Conte that pursued Matic and made his 2nd season go into ruins.
Enzo5: Conte tried, we can mention Zappacosta who was good especially the goals and Ziyech like off crosses, Bakayoko with negative ball control, Morata with Cinderella slippers. People would say he wanted other players even Lampard got Havertz instead of Declan Rice.
Chelsea have been signing one good player and plenty rubbish and average players since the much hated Emenalo left
Conte still bought a lot of finished players to inter and Tottenham
Conte with rich owner ready to spend, wouldn't bring finished players that are beyond repair.
Enzo5: the wing backs in hospital bed? Conte won't do better than Tuchel who used 3 at the back. The very least Lukaku won't have been shipped out.
Conte's system that fell apart in the absence of Costa, Matic and injured Kante, unfit Moses would work with RLC, injured Kante, unfit Kovacic players that couldn't score a single counter attack in two years
Conte wouldn't have filled Chelsea with finished players that are beyond repair, like Tuchel did. That's why he asked Chelsea to buy few solid players, rather than numerous 2 for #5 players that we bought for him then.
Bimffo: Keep living in denial that it was not Conte that pursued Matic and Costa.
The board will just wake up one day and decide to sell a player that just played a fantastic role in the team.
You need to start reading updates on Chelsea regularly, as a true Chelsea fan, so you won't be arguing blindly. Ballsproblemz over to you. 😄
Below was one of Conte's responses that informed he didn't suport Matic's release. He had to accept the great loss, by a different decision from his.
Conte:
"Matic knows very well what I think about him.
The importance for me about this player, who is a really good player, a top player, very important for our team, but sometimes you must accept this crazy transfer market.
'And sometimes you must accept different decisions. But he is a great loss for us."
Trevor012: Even World classManagers are called frauds here on a regular so I am not surprised. Conte is a Fraud, Pep who was dominated and won everything in world football is a Fraud. I am sure if Man City lose on Saturday people here will call Pep a Fraud. Klopp was also a Fraud and a bottler when he lost 7 straight finals as well. If United had won the Europa league yesterday would that have changed your opinion about Ole? The answer is No.
Even this one above that is always moving mad, understands that Conte is a world class manager.
hensben: You mean the season chelsea board disorganized the team before it started by selling Matic and costa, replacing them with bums, even your favorite coach won’t perform well in such condition.
If not for the clause in his contract, Conte would have resigned before the season kicked off, according to info from his close pals.
Conte still went back to Italy and took Scudetto away from Juve, with condemned Lukaku and Ashley 'OLD'.
Bimffo: Was I the one that sold Matic for Bakayoko? Was it not the same Conte?
Conte wasn't in support of his sale. In fact he was shocked when he was first asked publicly that he would be released.
The emboldened below is important in judging Conte's 2nd season among other occurrences. Not everybody got the info and brain to analyse his situation that season.
Emaprince: Thos that sold Matic to manure should be watching what he brought to their midfield.
You sold Matic and bought an injured player. By the time we lose against spurs, na to dey pray for Top4 be that.
hensben: I too go like Conte because he don’t just win trophies, he improve players and that’s exactly the type of coach our club need. There is a way he train his players to be grit with the ball which I like.
Lukaku confirmed it. He said he physically handled him for months, when he joined Inter and the result was what lured us to buy him.
If as a young player, you don't improve under Conte, then change profession.
hensben: They underestimate Conte I don’t know who sold lies to them. Conte never luxury of players in his career, either they are average or passed their peak, unlike pep and other top coaches.
Even Fraudiola acknowledged his supreme coaching skills.
Nobody gave Spurs that chance to qualify for Ucl last season, now they are in knockout stage with Emerson Royal, Dier as CB, and average Lloris.
Bimffo: Collect from the rich and give to the poor. (BTW, Pep has also beaten his team this season.)
Even with Inter, he was still very limited in the champions league.
The only time a very good Conte side will boss you, is when you allow that team play on the counter. Let them have the ball most of the time, and he will be clueless.
That's untrue.
At Inter, he still played some sweet football outside of counter attack. Even his last game in Ucl, Spurs scored from a well-worked team play.
He has always not got quality players to the brim in his team, unlike Fraudiola and others. How many Spurs players will break into Chelsea or City first 11?
Give him this Chelsea team with flying full backs, solid midfielders and fleet footed attackers, and see if he won't destroy Fraudiola back to back.
Bimffo: There is no memory I need to refresh. There was no time we played a bigger team that season bar United that we were not outplayed. Against City that we won 3-1 and 2-1 was because our counter attacking was deadly. But we were outplayed in both legs. You can bring up stats, please.
The second season was so bad, that there was this match against City that we were beaten 1-0. Bernado Silva scored. Omooor. THAT GAME WAS EYESORE.
Conte kept shouting throughout that second season that we need to suffer without the ball.
GOD FORBID. WE AIN'T GOING BACK!
Having 60% possession doesn't mean you are doing the most important thing on the pitch. If you don't have a wide gap against your opponent regarding number of dangerous attacks, you are just playing nonsense Sarriball. It's like pre-intimacy without penetration.
Man City didn't dominate in that 1-3 loss to us, as they didn't have many scoring chances far more than ours. So I don't understand why you claimed we were outplayed. Being outplayed were the Barca vs Chelsea Ucl 2012, Bayern vs Chelsea Ucl 2012.
Conte got us a double on Fraudiola and no coach had done that for us since. We need results and not Sarriball again.
Conte would use our attackers properly and they won't be clueless with the ball.
Bimffo: He won because he had the right players to play all the position (Pedro and Hazard behind Costa. Kante and Matic, doing the dirty work. We had reliable Azpi. We had that snake in the goal post)
Another thing is that we only had Top 6 then. Even the Top 6 never hit then. Now, everybody don get quality players.
You can see how Conte is fairing at Spurs.
We have more quality players now that can play Conte's system. Conte would bench Havertz, make use of our wing backs better.
Spurs just defeated Fraudiola's City while on hospital bed in Italy. So how is he faring with Emerson Royal, Dier, average Lloris, old Perisic at the back?
Bimffo: Which football with quality players? Is it the football he kept telling us WE MUST SUFFER WITHOUT THE BALL, everytime he is playing a bigger team in his second season? EYE SORE FOOTBALL.
Please! God forbid we go back to Conte. I love 3 at the back when there is the right players to play it, (Not all these makeshift 10 and makeshift 9), but Conte is not the one to lead us.
We have never played sweet attacking football in Epl since the last time we won it with Conte. Matic and Kante were the backbones in the middle that allowed the likes of Willian, Pedro, Hazard to wreck havoc that year. Alonso and Moses even contributed more to the attack.
Refresh your memory sir, by noting the difference in our attack, when he switched to 3 at the back.
"Eden Hazard, man. What a baller. I loved players like him, that had that something special. I try to watch top players like Hazard, take bits off all of them. But at the end of the day, you mould into your own unique person, and I'm Noni Madueke."
nateevs: What is the exact reason for personal insults? This is exactly what someone was saying earlier. A player out of form, or a player not good enough is a constant in football.
You calling them oloriburuku because you disagree with their level of output, is tantamount to someone here calling you the same because they disagree with your views. I can't understand you and Hesben.
Meanwhile the players train for hours on end, you take one still picture and then use that as yardstick to confirm that they are 'always' together.
Drisham like many here, seems to be new to the dynamics of the sport, regarding players. That's why some of us took it upon ourselves to try and educate them, when players are out of form and not finished.
Using 'oloriburuku' on Chelsea players, that assisted and scored in our biggest club match in recent time, reeks of uncouthness laced with ignorance.