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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:45pm On May 13, 2021
BlueRayDick:
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This sums it all up. If u are still blaming zouma for Jorginho playing the ball straight into his own goal post, mehn.....I don't know what to tell u
In our next match our defenders would still play such passes and nobody would shout here because it may not lead to goal.

In fact yesterday, Mendy gave Silva a more difficult pass that i was even afraid as it was more risky and we used it to break Arsenal's high press in that moment. Nobody blamed Mendy as we used it to propel attack.

Jorginho was the culprit and he knows that himself.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:36pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:
Your own is that you just don’t want to admit that Zouma fvcked up with what he did, not because he didn’t fvck up, but because it wasn’t Rudiger that did that.

You still had to drag Rudiger in just to push agenda. They are currently not mate in term of form and ball play. Rudiger is now miles ahead of Zouma and it’s a fact you just have to admit.
I asked simple questions regarding similar situation, instead of answering the questions you started talking about ''Rudiger and Zouma are not mates bla bla bla''. Who was talking about that with you?

Ogbeni, what stopped Rudiger from playing the pass to Mendy that opened for him in the gif posted above? Would you have blamed Rudiger had Silva messed with that pass and it led to a goal?

If you can't answer those questions or can't blame Rudiger then you have no point blaming Zouma for passing to Jorginho.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:18am On May 13, 2021
donstan18:
Zouma had a lot of options that could have helped achieve that players dragging aim.

After delaying, what stopped him from passing to Kepa who has opened for him already? But no! He decided to give Jorg who was choked with 3 players.

Jorg gave a wrong pass, but Zouma caused the whole shiit.
grin

What stopped Rudiger from passing to Mendy below? I know most of you would have blamed Silva below if he did a Jorginho here.

Would you have blamed Rudiger if this had led to a goal as Mendy was off his line just like Kepa?

https://j.gifs.com/36R7Wn.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 9:29am On May 13, 2021
donstan18:
Delaying to make a pass becomes wrong when you ignore all available options to rehearsal your traffic warden abilities.

Zouma had options, he had about 4 options ffs.

Is this too difficult for someone who watched that match to understand? This is not me hating on Zouma, he was my preferred defender to Rudiger, but it irritates me to see players make things difficult for their fellow players.
If you know Tuchels tactics and watched how Arsenal refused to be dragged out of defensive positions, you will understand why Zouma did that.

You can't tell me that the CB that gave Kante this pass below didn't have options to play a lofted pass to the flanks himself.

It's a tactical play to drag opponents out and get their numbers depleted for one attacker to pick up the subsequent pass and run at defence.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 9:23am On May 13, 2021
timbros:
I am surprised all what I read here about Zouma being the cause of that goal. Like, seriously? shocked

Look at the space Jorginho have to make a decision. Kepa opened for Zouma to pass to him but Zouma choosed to pass to Jorginho. So these guys are telling me that a player of Jorginho's calibre shouldn't know Kepa's position when the pass is coming to him? Even when he got the pass, was he that choked not to raise his head to know where to place the pass?

I just dey weak for wetin people dey write here. Jorginho has the blame. No one else.
If it didn't lead to goal, nobody would have said anything about Zouma not using other options.

They are unconsciously saying Zouma should never trust Jorginho with such passes again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:44am On May 13, 2021
Ibime:
We play that pass many times a game. The expectation there is to give it to the keeper if you can't do a half-turn

He fücked up the pass to the keeper partly because he has no confidence in his half-turn. A better midfielders first instinct will be to feint for the half turn and spin out. If he has confidence in doing that, he won't rush to pass to the keeper like the ball is a hot potato and fück his pass up
As if i was the only one seeing such passes in our past matches.

Now i know i am not insane. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:20am On May 13, 2021
We had seen so many of such passes in tight spaces in past matches and they handled them properly and nobody blamed the passers for putting receivers under pressure.

Only God knows what would have happened to the ball passer if Kante had fumbled this pass against Madrid and it led to a goal. But now, Zouma must be blamed for Jorginho's error.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:13am On May 13, 2021
Neobulletzz:
It could have been avoided if Zouma had pass earlier

Watch it from here

https://twitter.com/cfcpys/status/1392599056103481344?s=21[/quote]Yes just like every other goal scored could have been avoided but i won't blame him for trusting Jorginho with that pass because he showed up for it and not heavily marked when he received it.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:07am On May 13, 2021
popizaino:
grin grin grin

I was surprised they were blaming zouma too, I don't know how people take dey watch ball sef. The mumu no look and just went on to pass to the back . Coward of a player. When you have a penchant for passing to the back at any slightest provocation, this is what is bound to happen grin .
I first thought it was a joke when Dayo quoted some people and tagged me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:46pm On May 12, 2021
donstan18:
My point exactly. He played a huge part in Jorg’s error when he had opportunities to avoid it.
We are not saying the same thing.

That's how they were trained to play from behind and in such manner, so that when they break with the ball, the opponents would have more players beaten in our half and their defenders in trouble.

You can't tell me that you never shouted 'kick out' while fearing that opponents were about stealing balls from us in tight spaces before today.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:41pm On May 12, 2021
Ibime:
lol. Just seen the goal.

Deeplying playmaker without a half-time

That goal is 99% on Jorginho
Even in Naija, you go dey hear 'check your side mirror' before you receive pass so you won't mess up with the ball.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:37pm On May 12, 2021
donstan18:
Zouma caused everything. He did.

Rewatch that goal and see the mess he created by holding the ball and getting Jorg choked when he had 4 options earlier.

Even pundits like Ian Wright and some few analyzed and confirmed his fvckery. He messed up.
I hope you saw that image i attached. There was nothing wrong in the pass given to him as they have been drilled by Tuchel on how to receive and break from high press in tight spaces. In fact Jorginho wasn't even in a tight space there.

Go and watch the match and see how our defenders passed to Gilmour and Jorginho, in fact all our midfielders in tight spaces and nobody blamed anybody as none didn't result in goal.

The blame is only on Zouma because of Jorginho's error, and i can tell you for free that Tuchel will definitely not blame Zouma.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:27pm On May 12, 2021
rationalmind:
Watch that goal again. Jorginho had about three Arsenal players around him. He was definitely going to be put under pressure with no outlet except kepa.

Zouma had no reason passing that ball to him
You guys are funny. I had seen Jorginho receiving passes in tighter situations than below and decided well. I was surprised to be seeing you guys blaming Zouma as if even in this match all our defenders didn't make similar passes in tight spaces to break the presses.

Jorginho is the sole carrier of this blame and he knows it.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:06pm On May 12, 2021
raumdeuter:
Just call airmark name directly, Dont be stylishly subbing him
grin grin

You are now desperate. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to hold on to straws to stay afloat in the midst of Ls that have drowned you recently.

Did you watch the match at all? Why should Zouma take the blame of Jorginho's fault in this match?

I didn't blame Rudiger for scoring an own goal in Sheffield's match, because i knew it could happen to anyone and he is better than Boathand. So, bounce.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 10:48pm On May 12, 2021
raumdeuter:
[s]Werner was Leipzig top scorer who scored over 20 goals for them, Now Leipzig is struggling to score and now weaker because your team weakened them[/s]
Lewandowski was Dortmund's best player when you bought him. Upermecano was Leipzig when you bought him. Neuer was Schalke04 best player when you bought him. Just to mention a few of how you weakened Burnthisleaguedown teams. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:54pm On May 12, 2021
Leyqute:
I get. But then the5y both played for different teams. Kanu played for teams at both ends of the spectrum while Yaks played majorly for mid-table teams.

I’d say Kanu, with his hype and potential, performer less than expectation when compared to Yakubu. Yakubu was deemed prolific and Kanu wasn’t. There’s a reason for that.
At this point DayoKANU Raumdeuter will need to come and tell you what Papillo brought to the table.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:44pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:
Did you see recent times in my write up sad
That's why i added, 'No coach will win consistently if not allowed to build his team, with some kind of freedom and enough time.'

Your 'recent time' is only when he was at Chelsea and some of us know why he didn't achieve optimally. So you shouldn't base your conclusion of him failing next season on that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:20pm On May 12, 2021
Amoto94:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ltfI15PWU
I like how he added ''financial sources'' to what helped Fraudiola. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:15pm On May 12, 2021
Leyqute:
Didn’t he have a worse goal/game ratio than Yakubu Aiyegbeni ?
Kanu wasn't an out-and-out striker like Yakubu.

Lukaku didn't score a goal for Chelsea but was something else at West Brom and Everton. You get my point?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 3:15pm On May 12, 2021
KingAlabi:
I look at conte as one off kinda coach Sha from recent times.
Inter aren't favourites in my books, pirlo will probably be sacked.
Then you don't know Conte. Conte won Seria A thrice consecutively with Juve.

No coach will win consistently if not allowed to build his team, with some kind of freedom and enough time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 2:50pm On May 12, 2021
raumdeuter:
Bayern did not sign Upamecano when he made UEFA team of the year
You said Werner was Leipzig's best player in his last season in Germany. He wasn't.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:47pm On May 12, 2021
Amoto94:
Best Nigerian player to grace the EPL?
Ibime Afrodoc, Unlimited22, Airmark, Raumdeuter, Nihilist, Donjazet, hensben, Timbros, Sod09




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9LIzW5T_A
Kanu Nwankwo. It's not easy to play for a top team where expectations are very high and still deliver.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:24am On May 12, 2021
popizaino:
What is my business with your screenshot?

Who is the coach of current epl champions cheesy?
What is my business with a local league champion?

Who was the coach that destroyed Fraudiola home and away and won EPL on his first attempt in England?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:41pm On May 11, 2021
popizaino:
Pls remind me the coach of the current EPL champion again grin
grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 8:49pm On May 11, 2021
raumdeuter:
[s]You have a talent for talking nonsense. He was their best player in 2019/20 but he still played for them in 2020/21
Did Upamecano make the CL team of the season this season?
In 2019/20 Werner was Leipzig's top scorer you took him immediately, Harvetz was Leverkusen's top scorer you took him immediately

Did you strengthen them by taking their best scorers[/s]?
Gibberish as usual.

Upermecano was Leipzig's best player when Werner left. That's a fact as decided by Uefa that put him in UCL team of the season and not Werner.

So since Tammy Abraham is our highest goal scorer, he must be Chelsea's best player. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:38pm On May 11, 2021
donstan18:
Chelsea finishers dey fvck Mount up sha.

See chances created and assists the young world class player for pack.


https://twitter.com/ramzrevival/status/1375157480540532738?s=21[/quote]No Chelsea fan with functional eyes and brain will state that Mount is talentless and useless.

Most of those criticizing him don't watch Chelsea games, they just check Goals/Assists stats and start shouting.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 6:30pm On May 11, 2021
raumdeuter:
[s]Werner was their top scorer, Harvetz was Leverkusens top scorer, Did you make them stronger when you took their top scorers?

Leipzig scored 81 goals last year, how many did they score this year after taking their top striker?[/s]
Upermecano was their best player, that's why he made the UCL team of the season and Werner didn't. You just took away their best player and that's weakening a team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 5:45pm On May 11, 2021
So if Iheanacho scores the winner today, his goal will just hand the trophy to his former team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 5:34pm On May 11, 2021
This looks like a fixed match to ensure that Leicester win. I hope we take that 2nd spot from you guys sef. sad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 5:25pm On May 11, 2021
raumdeuter:
Did you weaken Leipzig and Leverkusen by buying their best players?
Upamecano was Leipzig's best player when Werner was there and even now. Your team just bought him.

Meanwhile

raumdeuter:
Don't worry that was how man utd was ahead in signing Thiago also and Chelsea was ahead in signing Sule

If Bayern wants Harvetz they will get him just like with Sane and Werner

We will get the one we want and leave you with the one we don't
Burnthisleaguedown. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:33am On May 11, 2021
96forever:
disgusting pattern that beat your MCM home and away en route to winning the PL in their first season.
Popizaino in the mud. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 12:07am On May 11, 2021
raumdeuter:
Did they make the teams they left stronger or weaker? Did you weaken their former teams or not
How did we weaken a Dortmund team by buying a player that you claimed was dying on their bench?

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