raumdeuter: Owen played at the same time as Etoo, Henry and co.
They all mounted Fifa podium at one time or the other, so one can debate.
But VVD is like a god to one calamitous Boathand that never mounted that podium, despite winning all trophies with Neuer. While Neuer made Fifa best XI, 4 times, Boathand - Insha Allah.
raumdeuter: See airfart denying his favourite polling booth award
Owen was honored by Balon dor, Henry was not honored by balon dor, Shearer Maldini Baresi Etoo were not
So who is better
How would i compare two great players of different eras, honoured by Fifa?. You dey ment?
Bring a player like Kante, a Fifa best 11 and Uefa team of the year player and spineless Busquets who never achieved those, then i will prove to you why Kante was/is better.
raumdeuter: Owen won Balon dor, Did any of Etoo Shearer Maldini Buffon win Balon dor?
In your little mind, Owen was a better player than them
You can do better in your ploy to rubbish my view. I don't know where you got that Owen > Etoo from.
Get it, Boathand is a calamitous and a carry along defender. Fifa confirmed it by not honouring him individually as he was never at any time one of the best 2 CBs in the world.
Shearer and those that you listed were not like Boathand, they were great players honoured individually by the world soccer ruling body.
Don't do this biko. I remember that he apologised to me. Only Timbros still dey do like evil spirit.
Greatihex: you are shameless. I am one of those that supported and rejoiced for the signing of morata, but the truth is that he served me L this season. I have not given up on him though, but i will take my L with pride. I believe he will sort out his finishing next season.
Airmark, i have taken my L already, so, don't come for me again.
raumdeuter: Morata gave who L? [s]What did Belotti give you?
The biggest club in Italy went to buy Morata twice, they saw Belotti playing in their country their league their countryman and ignored him like a leper[/s]
raumdeuter: Boateng has won 2 trebles plus a world cup trophy, when will VVD win his own world cup?
Liverpool carry along
What distinguishes players in a winning team is their individual honours.
Boathand has a World cup medal, but the organisers, Fifa didn't put him in World cup best XI and Fifa best XI of the year because he was a carry along defender.
nihilistjnr: There's no way anybody objectively can look at Fab in that 2017/2018 season and blame him for our troubles, especially with this guy doing this on the pitch
raumdeuter: Who was causing the goals? Maybe Allison from hospital The person causing the goal what now happened to him? Oh he got injured his name is VVD
The same person hopping around when Liverpool conceded vs West Ham is now giving us shalaye of who is responsible for the goals conceded Why did you not tell us who was responsible for the clean sheet that won Liverpool their CL
Team achievement is a product of a concerted effort from all the players but we will always praise stand-out ones.
Boathand has a world cup medal but the competition organisers saw him as a carry along why they didn't individually honour him, unlike Neuer, Lahm, Hummels, Muller and others that stood out.
Van Dijk stood out in the Liverpool defence that won Ucl, why he didn't only make Uefa team of the year, and Fifa best 11, he was Uefa player of the year. Something the calamitous Boateng will never achieve even in his dream.
swiz123: The thing airmark sometimes fail to understand is that, Liverpool's excellent defensive record isn't just because of their defenders. Liverpool's press is often too difficult to by pass, thereby making it difficult for opponents to create reasonable chances to trouble the defence. That explains why Fabinho seamlessly slot into VVD's role, and bench warmer Matip looking like Vidic.
With that said, VVD is a great defender that benefits immensely from the Jurgen Klopp system. Don't give him too much credit than he deserves.
Let Liverpool swap VVD for Rudiger, let's see if they will win UCL and Epl with their quality press. They played few matches without him and just 1 clean sheet in 4 matches, we no go hear word.
Watch VVD's highlights below and tell me how opponents didn't threaten them because of their pressing game.
thorrvik55: U guys should rest already.. With VVD at the back Liverpool won the league and Champions league, let's see how far they go this season without him.. It's still to early for all this
raumdeuter: If Aston Villa players were not wasteful VVD for chop double digit
Defence is not by pointing like traffic warden that is why Liverpool is conceding less the moment traffic warden was out even with Matip and Fabinho in CB
So why didn't your team score 7 goals against the traffic warden when he stoned you and other fans with the remaining debris left by Drogba in Munich?
A40: I don dey take style count the clean sheets since him injure. They will soon come and tell us how he was pointing and organizing the defense from treatment room.
Same here.
1 in 4 Epl matches. Very impressive compared to Bayern's 0 in 4 Burnthisleaguedown matches.
raumdeuter: Polling booth awards. Play on the field not on ballot box
All those that made Fifa best XI from both the Spanish national team and Barcelona played well on the field and were more productive for their teams than the spineless defensive midfielder described below.
raumdeuter: Who was carrying him. In Spain was it Pedro Unproductive Iniesta, not able to defend Pique, carry along Fabregas who exactly abi na Messi wey no win outside Barcelona
In spain those that made Fifa best XI carried him. Same thing in Barcelona.
raumdeuter: Kante has never won a CL in his life, the world cup final they carried him to sef, dey comot am like diseased tumor for final
Fifa don't use team achievement or a single match to rate players, that's why Kante made Fifa best XI, something the spineless Busquets would never make even in his dream.
Did he win it without Iniesta? Check my post again.
Iniesta, Xavi and others made Fifa best XI, the spineless DM never made it once because he was a tagged along, leeching on others quality to win titles.
Without Iniesta or Meessi, he wouldn't have won anything more than Marcos Senna.