European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 9:02pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Only a toad and total illiterate will think to be dispossesed means something in football
See the players topping dispossessed charts
Well there is an army of morrons here to cheer you on, One even wished he can like a reetardded post twice And at the same time scored below 25 in league and top big chances missed like Salah, right ? Your head is like a laptop without hard disk. You can't remember something typed less than 20 mins ago.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:57pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: I wish I could like this post more than once sha. It's a pity we don't have a judge on nairaland who can tell us which party won after all these back and forth. But it is what it is.
Hazard is a star boy who has achieved more with an underachieving team. We will try our best to cleanse this place of nonsense, those with sense will pick the side. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:53pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: Apari Raumdeuter still thinks VVD is not a great defender o... Smh  Your uncle? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:48pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: [s]This essay up here is the hallmark of foolishness. It should be read at the convocation ceremony of reetards led by the poster
The effectiveness of an attacking player is measured strictly by his direct contribution to goals
Ronaldo was taking plenty of shots, missing lots of chances, losing possession but as long as he gets his 50goals you can gather all your other metrics and shove it up where the sun doesnt shine
Goals, Goals and lots of it are the measurements for an attacking player. More important than that is the stage where you score your goals
Stuffing Huddersfield by 5 goals when they are getting battered by 9-0 carries less weight than dropping a hat trick in a CL or world cup final
Its only those who failed out of Feyingbole High school that will think all those rubbish aside goals matter. You will see them celebrating dribbles, possesion lost, possesion gain chance missed,
You think if Messi was just dribbling, completing takeons, retaining possession but dropping single-digit goals per season anyone will care about him[/s] I didn't expect anything brilliant from someone who thought he was a dm in a monkey post football? Someone who expected the last defender to foolishly rush out in a 2 v 1 situation? Someone who believes Liverpool FC's official site, epl's official site , FIFA's official site, were all unreliable but transfermarkt.com is reliable. Show me this stupid post when Ronaldo wins Ballon d'or after getting dispossessed 110+ times in the league like Salah, and missed big chances like him while also scoring below 25 league goals. The Ogbomosho dirty water you drank, had a toll on your brain. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:05pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
popizaino: You have said it all May God increase you in knowledge. Amen o.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:54pm On Apr 26, 2019*. Modified: 6:12pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
If you want to check effectiveness of a player, there are many things you will check. Raumdeuter is suffering from the stupid criteria he used in the past. Now struggling to escape from the dragnet, which is making him look stupid with each post of his. Constituting nuisance as if it has gone out of fashion. Goals + assists were what he used in the past for Hazard and Kdb , Hazard and Neymar. Now that Hazard has superior goal contribution in fewer minutes played, he is gasping for breath. We never added chances created.  Sensible analysts won't use only goals + assists to rate attackers. There are other things you check but on nairaland we have people turning amala when caught in the web they set in the past. Salah lost possessions like 110+ times, as against Hazard's 70+. Salah has like 15 big chances missed, as against Hazard who has less than 7. You can't just choose what suits your narrative and shout eureka. This is not Ogbomosho town hall full of local artisans. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:57pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
In another news, Neymar begging to play with Hazard  "It could be that interest is rekindled in the likes of Neymar and Hazard, with the former admitting that he would love to work with another mercurial talent. “I would like to play with Hazard. He has a style similar to mine,” Neymar told Fox Sports. “I think I could give it a try. We would cause havoc together " |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:47pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Lucas moura has higher goals tally than bernado silva. ....is he better?   |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:46pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55: Okay, so now topping assist chart as an attacker is not necessary ba. I thought it was how many goals + assists now the criteria has changed to just goals ba... The oponu Raumdeuter is confused.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:57pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: This is Liverpool official site To apari Raumdeuter liverpool site is not reliable. It's on nairaland you read stupid things from stupid people. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:20pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Chelseafan1: But Salah is miles ahead abi, using this same stats
U do know that, Hazard delivered better than Mane?
What do you have to say, is Hazard on 29 goals + assists better than Mane on 20 goals + assists? individually
Airmark, Hensben, make una kon see my Uncle's reply. He is confused. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:13pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: transfermarkt is more reliable  More reliable than FIFA and EPL. As seen in Neymar's non-existing assist they gave him against Mexico. You be iti iboribo. Chelseafan1 come and carry your shameless uncle. He is infecting the likes of hankanuku. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:09pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Hazard 12 goals minus penalties + 13 assists =25 goals contributed Salah 19 goals minus 3 penalties +7 assistsay =23
Hazard shit on him..
Now on chance created or goal scoring opportunities. Bring up d stats We don't even need to factor the big chances missed, in which Salah is a boss. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:07pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55: If ur team is losing 2-1, how can you score a match winning goal if ur team mate does not equalize or if u don't score an equalising goal? Only the winning goal matters.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:04pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: According to transfermarkt, Salah 19 goals(3 penalties) 10 assists, Hidden 16goals(4penalties) 13 assists) I asked you of official stats from premier league page. Do you want to start your transfermarkt.com more reliable than FIFA.com here again for premier league? The same transfermarkt caught giving Neymar a fictitious assist against Mexico? You see your life? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:53pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: I have posted their goals and assists before taking out the penalty goals I will give you time to type it out with number of matches played, Goals and Assists as can be seen on official page of Premier league. If you could type them out when we argued Neymar and Hazard you must do it now. God bless. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:44pm On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: 2017/18
Neymar 6 goals 3 assists 7 games Hazard 3 goals 4 assists 8 games Raumdeuter and a40 please do the needful for Hazard and Salah in epl this season. This is the second time I'm posting this. I want to know the number of league matches Salah and Hazard played this season and the number of goals and assists for both. God bless. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:20am On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: 2017/18
Neymar 6 goals 3 assists 7 games Hazard 3 goals 4 assists 8 games Raumdeuter and a40 please do the needful for Hazard and Salah in epl this season. God bless. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:03am On Apr 26, 2019 |
larride: Why can’t he be in the conversation?
Laca has goal contribution on par with Kane Laca has contributed to goal than Vardy Laca has contributed to goal than Mane
Apart from City and Pool, Arsenal is the only club that has 2 different players in the top 10 goals contribution.
Even Hazard that has 16 goals, do you want me to show you countless times that fans has cursed him this season? Lacazette, a striker, has 13 goals, when wingers are having 19. Man utds poor attackers have done you bad. Not new, some people see bronze and call it gold. Even Aubameyang is on 19 or so. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 9:53am On Apr 26, 2019 |
A40: What kind of stupid question are you asking me to start with? All the times I bash Hidden Shakushaku what has been the cane I usually use? I asked you a sensible question but you typed hundreds of foolish words without answering. An answer that shouldn't have taken you more than two minutes to type. Answer the damn question and stop doing senseless chicken dance around it. What do you use to rate attackers? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:53am On Apr 26, 2019 |
A40: What do you think? Using question to answer such question is a dumb thing to do. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:42am On Apr 26, 2019 |
A40: Only Chelsea fans can compare Hidden Shakushaku to Mo Salah this season. Smh What do you use to rate attackers? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:29am On Apr 26, 2019 |
larride: What about Auba-Laca?
Just accept the fact that the 3 teams are useless and stop looking for excuse  Lacazette has 13 goals, which is poor for me as a striker. I can't can't mention the number of times fans had cursed him this season . He shouldn't be in this conversation. None of those I mentioned have less than 16 league goals. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:22am On Apr 26, 2019*. Modified: 8:45am On Apr 26, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 1:44am On Apr 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: How many goals did Hazard score between November and December You've not answered this. airmark: So no more using Goals + assists to rate attackers again?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 1:42am On Apr 26, 2019 |
lordfalcao: chief mumu, his goals has won more point for his team, more than any striker. but you won't see that.
But when belotti scores once in 6 months. You will start disturbing us.
No wonder raumdeuter Dy chop you like gala all the time When you finish kissing Raumdeuter's asss let me know. Ode. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:40am On Apr 26, 2019 |
larride: See this one.
The three are fighting for the trophy “most useless”. Yes because our other attackers failed to combine with Hazard to do Mane-Sallah and Sterling-Aguero numbers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:35am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Assists count, but assists are not always an indicator of individual brilliance....afterall, the person being assisted still has to convert before you get your credit as an assist provider.
If you combine all the stats, Hazard has 3 more goal contributions than Salah in total. But how come Salah has more match winning goals than Hazard? How come Liverpool are doing a lot better than Chelsea?
Hazard stat pads. Score 2 goals in a 5-0 demolition of huddersfield, and then stay silent when City pump us 6 kondo.
In all the games we've lost this season, Hazard did not contribute a goal or assist. SO you cant even say oh he tried, but defence let him down.
Individually Hazard has been brilliant, but have his goals and assists helped us, the same way Salah's output has helped city? I think the answer is no. There are some assists that make the resultant goal, easier to score. You can't tell me a player that got rid of three defenders and rolled the ball past the on-rushing keeper to the scorer to tuck inside net, did lesser work than the scorer of the match winning goal. If Mane had supplied the numbers supplied by Willian, Liverpool wouldn't have been up there on the table. That answers the question of why Liverpool is up there with Sallah and Chelsea down there with Hazard. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:08am On Apr 26, 2019 |
Segedinho: Check Sallah even played more matches? I remember he went like two months without a goal and Mane was delivering during that period. If not for the uselessness of our other attackers who couldn't complement Hazards numbers we wouldn't be dragging spots with mumu teams like man utd and arsenal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:02am On Apr 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Bros rest.
When we're talking influential, this is what we're talking about.
Hazard is number 9 on this list btw.
Salah joint top.
League goal scorer - Salah joint top.
Salah's team is competing for title. Hazard is miles away.
Please stop this nonsense. Are we no more using assists again to rate attackers? I remember most people here were flogging Hazard in the past because of his low goal contributions every season, which included assists. If we want to tidy things well, maybe we should atleast count assists to match-winning goals, before we conclude on how well players influence matches. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:54pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
raumdeuter: What other yardstick do you want? Size of head, color of shirt?
If Aubameyang scored more goals than Kane this season then he is better than Kane this season
Na these kain award me I prefer not one wey people go dey campaign, and vote like Saraki dem.
As at today Aguero and Salah are the best attackers in the league Just reading through this nonsense now. So no more using Goals + assists to rate attackers again?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:47pm On Apr 25, 2019 |
lordfalcao: I see lacazette as top..
Airmark come and see something So he's the best striker in epl. He's better and more influential than Aguero and Kane. You be mumu walahi.  |