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Emusan:
I like this, it's only Almighty that can be in two different places at the same time.

That means Jesus will both be in heaven and earth at the same time for His statement on the cross to be true since the thief will be WITH HIM at the Paradise

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He said it and He's doing it today.



The two statements are not the same with Jesus statement on the cross.

Both Matt 18:20 & Matt 28:20 are all before the CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THIS WORLD

Jesus told him, "...YOU will be with Me IN Paradise..." which means the thief will be where Jesus will be after resurrection. whereas, the two statements above simply means Jesus is Almighty who can be at different places at the same time.

OK!

achorladey:
I hope this is not a case of shooting oneself in the foot.
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You got the point!

If Jesus was never present (physically) after leaving the earth surely he wasn't talking about being with the thief physically in Paradise!

Emusan:
You people are very funny

So Jesus was lying to the man that, the man will be with him in Paradise when Jesus Himself won't be in the same Paradise but heaven

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20


"teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:20

Did Jesus prove to be present (physically) as he promised in the two statements above?

newguy365:
You sound a lot better now and I was just exaggerating when I said I will shoot them, I can't even stand a dying chicken. However, I don't force my beliefs on people and I also believe in the uniqueness of man cause I am not the best, so my beliefs are not blueprints.

Moreso, I am a strong believer in "you fall for me, I fall for you". So what right do they have to go about preaching and praying for people when they won't allow the people to preach to them or pray for them Why invite people to your "church" when you rather die than do same? What makes yours superior?

I think your questions should be best directed to them in a tactful manner.

"You fall for me and i fall for you"

Should be a personal thing otherwise you may end up judging others based on self-righteousness!

All what you typed up their before saying "i will shoot" has nothing to do with hurting you personally but just their beliefs.
So if you're thinking of killing people just for their beliefs which has nothing to do with your well-being then ask yourself
"What makes me different from the Jews that hated Jesus and his disciples for their beliefs?"
The only reason why religious terrorists kill people is due to their beliefs which has nothing to do with those terrorists.
So instead of forcing your opinion on others can you simply accept everyone around you as neighbours, with rights to choose whatever they will believe?

newguy365:
Acts 10:28 !!
He said to them, "You know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with a foreigner or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean.

You guys reek of ignorance, hypocrisy, and hate. Spits

newguy365:
this is the church or better still, confraternity I hate the most.

A "church" that will never allow you to pray for them
A "church" that will invite you to their "kingdom hall" but will never attend yours, even if you have billions in your church
A "church" that will never be part of your any Christian gathering
A "church" that will never marry from other churches
A "church" that will rather see you die than allow technology to help you and yet use technologies everyday
A "church" that see every celebration as abomination (no joy)

I have more to say but let me stop here.
I will rather become a Muslim that think of going to JW

If I see any of their members near my house, I will shoot the madafacka

Luke 6:45!

“Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name" Matthew 24:9

OLAADEGBU:
You're now singing like a Canary bird. When are you coming out of jail ban?

Kumuyi pikin!

OLAADEGBU:
So you had to wait until you chop ban before you started to sing as a parrot by proxy.

This is why i often watch you guys do your stuff because in most cases you don't appreciate knowledge especially when it's coming from the group you hate with passion!

From MaxInDHouse.

NNTR:
Thank you very much for your kindness and sharing
We all are singing from the same hymn book, though what you call and see as burnt sacrifice, we see as and call it, a living sacrifice offering, indicating a selfless lifetime dedication and devotion to God's work!

The highlighted is the same way we call it now, i only drew a similarity between what Israelites were offering their God as BURNT OFFERINGS and LIVING SACRIFICE OFFERING today.

The purpose of such in Christianity is to lessen our burden while traveling on the road to life. Matthew 11:28-30
Only people who don't think about material possessions to keep up with husbands, wives or children will find it easier to concentrate more on the task given to us as Christians. Matthew 6:24-34

That's why most of the members of our Governing Body are childless, since they don't have any child they don't think of accumulating material possessions to pass on to their own children!

From MaxInDHouse.

If an Hausa man wants to communicate with an Igbo man and both of them can't understand each other's language that's when they need a language that's common e.g. (English or Pidgin) and the evidence of their UNDERSTANDING is PEACEFUL coexistence between the two.
So in the case where they agree to speak any language but they can't cohabit peacefully then something is wrong somewhere.
Satan is the one who made people raise weapons against one another back then since they failed to understand one another while he (Satan) wants to rule over them.
So whatever makes people agree to speak a language yet still carrying weapons against one another then Satan is the one behind the scene misleading them! Revelations 12:9

From MaxInDHouse.

NNTR:
Any other that you being a one of Jehovah's Witnesses doesnt bother me a bit
Yes, I know whatever I hear from the members of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization comes as what the members are able to grasp from the teachings of their Governing Body
You have a misguided perception in that estimation I am willing to learn from what you got from your Governing Body If you have an opinion aside what you got from your Governing Body, please feel free to share it, if you want to So far you begin with Yes or No, then, state clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, whether Jephthah, at all sacrificed, his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering, is fine and OK by me.
I am not asking for much at all but for just the simple entreat, to tell, if Jephthah at all sacrificed his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

In that case i will oblige!

NNTR:
MaxInDHouse and/or AkinwaleJJ
Did Jephthah at all sacrifice his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering?
Meaning, please say, Yes or No, then followed with stating clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, whether Jephthah, at all sacrificed, his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The direct answer to the question is "NO"
But the only reason why the offering is called BURNT OFFERING is because Jephthah's daughter can longer live a normal life because she's been given as a whole burnt offering to JEHOVAH.
Jesus Christ said a Christian can also do the same today if he/she is able by forgoing a normal life and giving himself/herself to the ministry completely:

The disciples said to him: “If that is the situation of a man with his wife, it is not advisable to marry.” He said to them: “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Matthew 19:11-12

So according to Jesus Christ a single Christian or a Christian couple may decide to give themselves as a whole BURNT OFFERINGS to JEHOVAH by either never getting married or never having children in order to concentrate fully on the ministry!

From MaxInDHouse.

Women's role is to support the arrangements made by the men taking the lead in the congregation.
During any activity women are needed to join and support but as for leading the Bible forbids them to lead among the Christians! 1Corinthians 11:3
MaxInDHouse.

haekymbahd:
So what is this pure language that your group use in serving God with one consent?

TRUTH that makes us have the same line of thought globally!
MaxInDHouse.

Gointo:
I dont want to reply you in the first instance,in your craftiness i see foolishness,and lack of knowledge..im not a suckler you can twist scripture for...if you lack understanding the bible says ask for it from GOD whom you believe in...if you cant ask from God,and you can humble yourself,i will tell what that scripture means..till then gracias

It's OK, if you already know what it means.
Thanks for your time.
MaxInDHouse.

haekymbahd:
Zephaniah 3:9-10
King James Version
9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent.
Which pure language has God given to his worshippers all over the world?
a) Arabic
b) tongues
c) Greek
d) English
f) give your answer

First of all before you can understand what God is saying in this verse you have to know the purpose of "ONE DIVINE LANGUAGE"

When God created the earth the entire human family speak just one language {Genesis 11:1} but due to the fact that Satan is in their midst he is manipulating their thoughts so that he is ruling them successfully by making them go against God's divine purpose for the earth which is the people must scatter to all the corners of the earth and in order to discover all it's potentials and make good use of it! Genesis 1:28 compare to Genesis 9:1

But because Satan don't know how he can rule the earth when they are scattered he made them think it's good for them to build just one city and remain in the same place! Genesis 11:4

So in order for God's purpose to be fulfilled He (God) sent an angel to CONFUSE their language so that they can't UNDERSTAND one another, only two or three persons are able to understand the same language after the confusion. This is how they left that city and began travelling each person with the one who can understand his language! Genesis 11:8

Now what is God's purpose for bringing back a unified language?

For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent. Zephaniah 3:9

Because the name of the true God has to go round the globe through the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth {John 17:6, 26} God's worshipers must be recognized by the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} which qualities are LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS
and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

So if LOVE, JOY and PEACE should reign in the midst of the worshipers of the true God then there must be UNDERSTANDING in their midst, that's why Jesus prayed for God's will to be done among his disciples by saying:


“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23

After Jesus' ascension to heaven God's Holy Spirit was dispensed on Jesus' disciples at Pentecost so that his Jewish disciples began speaking all the languages of visitors that came to Jerusalem that day! Act 2:2-4

This is to prepare their minds that people will come from all over the earth and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3


So it's not just any language my friend but the language that will make them worship as one family so that killings due to politics and racism will no longer happen in the gathering of God's children! Psalms 46:9

May you have PEACE!

From MaxInDHouse.

NNTR:
MaxInDHouse and/or AkinwaleJJ
Did Jephthah at all sacrifice his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering?
Meaning, please say, Yes or No, then followed with stating clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, whether Jephthah, at all sacrificed, his daughter to God as a dead burnt offering
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Do you still remember that i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Do you know that whatever you here from the members of this organization comes as what we are able to grasp from the teachings of our Governing Body?

I've had several chats with you and from what i perceive from your comments it's clear that you don't believe in a central unit for teaching.
So are you willing to learn from what i got from our Governing Body or you just want to hear another opinion?
Note that whatever i say is not my own opinion but what you will hear from all members of my organization globally! John 17:20-23
From MaxInDHouse.

Gointo:
who is this one?? lol

If you truly want God's Kingdom to come then you must act in accord with what you say {Matthew 15:8-9} faith in Jesus is not just thing of the mouth, we WORK with his ANOINTED brothers to show that we truly believe in what Jesus said! James 2:18-26
From MaxInDHouse

elated177:
Ehehehehe!
Maxindhouse, there was no need for that word. If there is anyone who is exhibiting ignorance, it is you, maxindhouse.
I am a priest, saint, servant and prophet of my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, and my Master and Saviour and High Priest, Yahushua the Messiah. My Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, relates to and with me through his Spirit and by his Word, Yahushua the Messiah, his begotten Son. Yahushua the Messiah, my Master and Saviour and High Priest, has direct business me, his saint, Elated177.
Matthew 11: 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
John 14: 22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?” 23 Yahushua replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

It's easy for anyone to claim anything that's why Jesus said we will distinguish between the true Christians and Satan's agents disguising as believers! Matthew 7:16-18
Before Jesus came God has foretold that by the time the Messiah complete his earthly mission He (God) will send his Holy Spirit so that the Israelites could sense that the job of the Messiah has been accomplished! Joel 2:28-30
Two Galileans (Theudas and Judas) rose up at different times claiming they're the Messiah towards the time of Jesus' arrival they both died miserably and those following them were scattered so that nobody except the Pharisees made mention of them! Act 5:36-37
So what evidence did Jesus' followers had to prove that their leader is the real Messiah?
Apostle Peter delivered a speech the day God sent His Holy Spirit to fulfil the promises He made through Joel {Act 2:18-20 compare to Joel 2:28-30} when those Jews in attendance heard Peter's speech and saw it's fulfilment for real they were touched to the heart so that they began begging Peter:

“Men, brothers, what should we do?” Act 2:37

Is there any reason for a faithful Jew who witness the event and heard Peter's speech to doubt Jesus again? Definitely not.
So if you're saying you have a direct business with Jesus of Nazareth today many also claim the same thing and millions are following them {Matthew 24:11} but where is the evidence?
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses organization claimed they're the ones having direct dealings with Jesus of Nazareth today and throughout the world they have gathered millions of people just like other claimers do but only their followers are known globally as zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word, they have settled all their racial disparities among themselves, they have diverted all their resources into production of food and information materials, they have stop building destructive weapons and vowed never to wage war again anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4

So the evidence is undeniable just as Jesus and James told us:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.~ Jesus Christ Matthew 7:16-18


Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that his faith was active along with his works and his faith was perfected by his works, and the scripture was fulfilled that says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called Jehovah’s friend. You see that a man is to be declared righteous by works and not by faith alone. In the same manner, was not Raʹhab the prostitute also declared righteous by works after she received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way? Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. ~ James 2:18-26

Just present the WORKS of your faith as evidence, whoever speaks against such fine WORKS of God's Holy Spirit will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

From MaxInDHouse.

OLAADEGBU:
In other words, you ain't got a clue.

I'm not answering to satisfy you, but if anyone among the sincere followers ask me i will oblige.
From MaxInDHouse.

OLAADEGBU:
If you've been paying attention you would have realised that only priests are qualified to offer sacrifices to the Lord. In this context are human beings to be offered as burnt offerings?

All Israelites can offer sacrifices to their God but only the priests can go near the altar to PERFORM the sacrifice! 2Chronicles 26:18
From MaxInDHouse

Image123:
Are you sure you know God?

1John 4:8

The funny thing about misinformed Churchgoers is how they are excited each time they have the opportunity to debate with JWs but whenever it comes to their fellow Churchgoers it's always.

ISU ATA YAN-AN YAN-AN

YAM PEPPER SCATTER SCATTER!

Despite all their hypocritical display of affection, they can't come up with one line of thought! Luke 11:23

DappaD:
Good evening bro.

chatinent:
From the day she said yes, she stole his time.


Who else asks for N2k urgently abi you need full biography?

I concur 100%!

Myer:
Even in Christianity you can lose your salvation by lack of good works.

It's the WORKS tied to salvation not just good manners as you presumed. Israelites were to keep the law covenant and whenever they does anything contrary to what the covenant says they need SIN offering as sign of repentance.
A Christian is to keep the new covenant which is his bapstim as one of Jesus' disciples and his assignment is to join other Christians in the preaching and teaching WORK Jesus assigned to them.
Abraham became the father of all those having faith by WORKS not good manners, he followed all the instructions given him whether it palatable or not that's the WORK of faith not just good manners. There were millions of people in Abraham's day who had good manners but they lack faith in a God that will direct them to what seems unreasonable. Abraham left the world's commercial center of his time and stared living in tents, he was willing to wait for the promises of the God who called him and say he (Abraham) will become father of multitude even while he was growing old Abraham kept that FAITH, when that God asked Abraham to offer his only son as burn offering Abraham was willing to do whatever it will cost him to remain faithful before this God. YES! Abraham WORKED to build trust in the heart of that God who called him out of Ur, not just good manners as you presume! James 2:23; Hebr 11:8, 17-19

So at the end of the day Salvation is by good works in all religions.

There is no good work anywhere that's acceptable before God apart from the work God's son commissioned, all those who don't WORK for Christ along with his flock will PERISH! John 3:16, 17:3 compare to Colo 3:24

Myer:
I've met a couple of JW members in fact I've worked with some.
And what I can tell you is that some of your members were a problem at work. Very lazy , very stubborn and obviously dragging the org down. It was a celebration when one of your members decided to resign.

Yet the Bible says Joseph, David, Daniel and the 3 Hebrew brother all had an exemplary trait that made every one know they were different. It was not their evangelism.

So if you say it is evangelism that makes you a Christian then I wonder where you get your gospel from

Now i know where you got it all wrong.

Please concentrate on the main points and don't allow yourself to be distracted with unnecessary issue.

God called out Abraham and made a promise that through one of his descendants people of all nations will be saved. Gen 12:1-3
God established a covenant with ISRAEL and Moses was the mediator, whoever comes into that covenant whether by birth or choice becomes part of God's special people. Exodus 19:3-5
There were bad eggs as well as exemplary ones in the midst of God's people back then. The three individuals you mentioned aren't Christians they happens to be part of the few exemplary ones under the law covenant back then but God's covenant with the nation still counts on all who comes under that covenant.

No matter what manner anyone may possess as long as he detests the Israelites God will curse such a person no matter how good he might prove to be and no matter how evil an Israelite an enemy of Israel is enemy to their God.

Now let's talk about Christianity. This is the new covenant that was established to replace the old one {Jere 31:31-34} the custodians of the old covenant proved to be worthless note that God didn't change the old covenant due to the attitude of bad ones amongst the Israelites but because those taking the lead failed to uphold God's righteousness. Matt 15:1-11 ; Romans 10:1-3

The new covenant came through another mediator (Jesus Christ) and just like the former covenant whoever comes under the new covenant will become one of God's children by faith. John 1:11-12
The same way that bad eggs and exemplary ones exist among those under the former covenant is same with the new covenant, all what a person needs is to accept Jesus as your leader (King) then humbly subject yourself to the arrangement he set which is the Christian congregation, as long as you remain submissive under this arrangement God view you as his child. 1John 2:1
All those outside this arrangement are like walking corpse in God's sight. Matt 8:22
So no matter what good manners you have outside this new covenant arrangement it's like filthy rags before God. Isai 64:6
Before Christianity anyone who despises the law covenant and found guilty will be stoned to death {Levi 20:16} in the new covenant anyone found wanting and unrepentant will be disfellowshiped. 1Corin 5:9-13

So all religionists asides Christianity will perish! John 3:16

That's why Satan formed thousands of false religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet all of them are claiming Christians. 2Corin 11:12-14 compare to Matthew 13:25
That's the cobweb of Satan. Only one group belongs to Jesus!

I'm not good in teaching, he assisted in this!

Myer:
Please don't misquote me. It is called an analogy.
I simply said just the way JW concentrate on Evangelism, Pentecostal also concentrate on Prophecy.

Meaning if you're saying it's evangelism that identifies a Christian, then a Pentecostal could likewise say it is Prophecy.

However Christ and the 11 apostles say it is Love and Righteousness while Apostle Paul says it is Love and Faith that distinguish a Christian.

The purpose of this thread however is to prove this claim because most Christians this days don't have Love or Righteousness or Faith.

Cos most Christians have been taught that according to Paul all you have to do is have Faith in God through Jesus and you're saved.

Christians these days believe there's no need to be righteous since believing in Jesus already made the righteous before God. Hence corruption is even more multiplied among Christians than other religions.

A Christian believes as long as he has confessed Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour, no matter what he does, he is saved and heaven-bound.

This is probably the greatest problem of Christianity and the world at large.

You are a problem to your own soul not Christianity!

True Christians told you what makes them different from other religions but you're hell bent on faulting Christianity as you misconstrue false religions as Christians.

True Christians never said they have any form of lifestyle that makes them unique apart from the assignment given to them. But you don't want the truth you feel all religions claiming Christians are Christians even though you don't know how to distinguish between Christians and false religions.

Well let me tell you the truth you may hate me as you hate my brothers. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only Christian group today, but if you want to continue slamming your head on the wall, soothe yourself. You will never find anything worthwhile in Christendom Churches, they're not Christians!

MaxInDHouse:
Wahala dey for people who detests the truth!
You can ask him, after all he's your friend!

I prefer the romance section it's like they're much more open and sincere there unlike the religious, here hypocrisy is written all over their faces.
I don't just get it how people love blind arguments.
Ordinarily everyone can distinguish between good and evil no matter the religion you belong but Christianity was commissioned with a sense of responsibility as a give back to the society, you have to plan your schedule to share the good things you learned from Christ with people in the neighbourhood thereby making more friends.
I wonder what's difficult in that.
Is he trying to say a Christian must be an angel in the midst of demons?
Or Christians must possess some forms of uncommon gifts?
If so then It will be difficult for others to walk away when they can see that once you become one of them you possess special supernatural powers. What does he think makes witches and cult groups secret yet they have members everywhere? Is it not because of their special gifts and powers?
Jesus understood their hypocrisy all along, the world prefer darkness to light {John 3:19} Because i can't just figure out what makes Christians different from all other religions apart from the duty Jesus assigned to them! Matt 28:19-20

MaxInDHouse:
Apostle Paul wanted to be out in the field ministry always {Act 20:20} but when conditions and circumstances couldn't permit him again he began writing letters that you and i are reading today like his letter to Christians in ROME, CORINTH, EPHESUS, PHILIPPI, COLOSSE, THESSALONICA and our first Century JEWISH brothers HEBREW.
So it's not today that we learn how to preach and teach without facial contact Sir!



The GIFTS are useless, hopeless and worthless if today you can't IDENTIFY them as uniquely different from all other religionists around you Sir!

If he knew the difference by means of prophecy GIFTS then what is the significance of the thread?

What's the difference between a Christian and others?

Simple answer ~ GIFTS of PROPHECY

Thank you!

Myer:
Done.
It was almost a pleasure having you here.

CalliDora1:
You known im saying the truth. 95% of you men lack self control. So, suck it in and buzz off!

Are you married?
Do you have a daughter?
Do you have respect for your husband?
What will you do if he kiss his own daughter in your presence?

Myer:
Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

If Yes, give your reasons.
If No, give your reasons.

MuttletLaff HopefulLandlord

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Myer:
You said you won't comment on the thread yet you can't honor your own word.
No wonder you can't honor God's words but keep twisting them.

Please sr i'm begging you in the name of your God.
Erase my username in your thread!