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why is it that when a deliverance section is going on.. 90% of people falling under the anointing or being casted out is females ?

malvisguy212:
There are many unstated assumptions in your question, which are not valid for Christianity.

Okay,God created Adam and Eve , but , do you know, You are the product of CHOICES made by your parents?.
Therefore, God has not predestined you
to be born at all. How can you blame
Him for creating you to send you to hell?

This is not to say that God is not involved at all in the creation of life. The Bible says that once a new human life is made God creates a spirit within the fetus and knows us at that point, even calling some to serve Him from the womb:
Isaiah 49:1
Listen to Me, O islands, And pay
attention, you peoples from afar.
The LORD called Me from the womb;
From the body of My mother He
named Me.

The truth is that People choose to go to hell rather than submit their lives to God. You have absolute free will within the confines of your personal ability.You can prove this to yourself. Determine two possible courses of action. They don't have to be big decisions, just any two possible actions. Assign each action to either "heads" or "tails." Flip the coin and do what whatever course chance decided. You can do this as many times as needed to determine that you do, indeed, have free will. Occasionally, do the opposite of what the coins tell you. Has God prevented you from doing anything? No!

Yes, there are people who are destined for hell,but Those who
follow God's plan are provided
opportunities to help others in their
spiritual path, do this atheists looks like people who want to listen? . Because evil exist and God would not override your freewill,its will be hard for All to be on the same path. God want those who are destined for heaven be a spiritual guidance to ALL. Bible say God extends a warm invitation to all sinners.

Isaiah 1:18, “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like
crimson, they shall be as wool.”

Jesus makes us the promise in John
6:37, “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”

you not getting me right....I know we've got free will of choices

what I mean is dàt since God sees d future..he would know you would end up in a wring decision

Krystalluv:
'pokenozing' or 'pokenosing' is Nigeria-made english.. d right thing is 'poking ur nose'.. u can say something like 'stop poking ur nose into other peoples' affairs'.


Hope it helps..

naija ehn....

thanks...I actually thought it was English...

plus I like the the way it sounds

orlando5:
actually pocknozing or "pokenosing" isn't an accepted english word

are you kidding me??

I see a lot of English speakers use it

ayoku777:
You're right, God has the power to manipulate a man's freewill. And there was even an instance in scripture where He did. When God made King Abimelech to not touch Sarah.

Gen 20v6 -And God said unto him (Abimelech) in a dream, Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her.

You see that? Abimelech did not refuse to touch Sarah out of his own freewill. No, God made him not to touch her. So yes, God can manipulate freewill.

But I have done some little study, and I stand to be corrected. But not only were the instances in scripture where God manipulated a man's freewill less than one percent, God also did it only when the fulfilment of a messianic prophecy or promise was at stake.

It seems that when it has to do with the kingdom mandate and the fulfilment of messianic prophecies, God always plays His sovereignty card.

But the other 99% of the times, when it has to do with the everyday choices of man, God does not manipulate man's freewill. He leaves us with our freewill and choices we make with it.

He will only warn us about our actions, and the consequences of those actions. But in His grace He will also make provisions for our remission and redemption if we are willing to accept the offer.

If God just goes around pulling His weight on all of us and manipulating our freewill up and down; then judgment day would be a charade. Since God would then be judging us, not for what we did, but what He manipulated us to do.

And secondly, God is raising a family of priests and kings who will reign with Jesus in the age to come.

If God just manipulates our will, then our Christlikeness will not be a true reflection of our love for God and our personal desire to be like Him, but a product of God manipulating our will and moulding us by force into the image of His Son. That will not be true maturity.

So God swooping in and saving the day everytime by making sure that what we do is always the good He manipulates us to do. That would not make us tried and tested priests and kings. It will not make our maturity true.

There is so much more to be said. But let me stop here. The Holy Spirit will open our understanding and guide us into all truth in Jesus name.

Shalom.

thxxx

ayoku777:
Yes, God knows if a man is going to make a wrong decision with the freewill He has given you.

But He will not manipulate your freewill to make you not make that wrong decision. That would not be freewill anymore or justice.

The best God will do is warn you in your conscience or by His Word and Spirit about it.

For example, God knew Cain was thinking about killing Abel. He warned Cain but didn't force or manipulate him to not do it.

Gen 4v6 -And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

v7 -If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him

God will show us His will and warn us about our choices, but He will not manipulate our freewill.

Cain eventually killed Abel and he was banished from among his kindred. The same scenario played out in the case of Adam and Eve. God gave them a warning but didn't force or manipulate their freewill not to disobey.

The idea that since God is the Almighty He should go around pulling His weight and manipulate man's freewill up and down is unfounded and not scriptural.

And also, just because God knows the choices you will make with your freewill doesn't mean He is the one manipulating you to make it. No, you made it all on your own.

Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him

John 6v64 -But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

But it wasn't Jesus that made Judas betray Him. Judas trangressed all on his own.

Acts 1v25 -That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Hope all these helps a little?

Shalom

thanks bro....I get you totally

but since he has power to...why don't he just manipulate it so that we don't choose wrongly
since he also dislike it??

please there is this word I see a lot people using.. I know the message it passes but don't know the actual real meaning.. I've searched alot and even Google still can't find the word...
I don't know if its a wrong spelling....ive tried a lot of spellings too
POCKNOZING

KingEbukasBlog:
I dont know what you want me to tell you now

say it as it is....
because God knows the future...he knew you would fall

ayoku777:
Ofcourse yes! God knew man would sin and fall.

Rev 13v8 -And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Also;

1Peter 1v19-20 -But with the precious blood of Christ, as of the lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was FOREORDAINED before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.

You can see this two verses? It says Jesus is the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world and that His death was foreordained before the foundation of the world.

Meaning God prepared the propitiation for the sins of mankind and made a plan for man's redemption and restoration even before the foundation of the earth, ever before man sinned and fell.

So yes God knew man would sin and fall. And He made a plan for the remission of our sins and for our redemption ahead.



It wasn't God that let it happen as much as it was Adam that chose to disobey and fall.

God gave man a freewill. It would be wrong of God to give man a freewill or the right of choice to make personal decisions, and God will still be policing that "freewill" and/or manipulating it so that man only does what God wants.

Technically that would no longer be freewill, would it?

So it was Adam's choice to disobey and sin and fall. And God did not manipulate Adam's freewill to prevent the fall. God only prepared a plan of remission and redepmtion for man after it happens -should man accept the offer.



No it wasn't God's will or desire for man to sin or fall or suffer. But it also wasn't God's intention or desire to manipulate man's freewill to prevent the fall, if man chooses to disobey and fall.

See this;

Eccl 7v29 -Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

Can you see? God made man upright, and He wanted man to continue in that uprightness. But He also gave man the freewill to choose to search out many inventions and lifestyles.

Man chose the latter, and God didn't manipulate man's freewill to prevent it. Because that wouldn't be freewill or justice anymore.

Shalom

but since God gave you freewill...I agree

he is all knowing he also know you going to make a wrong decision ??

iliyande:
Reading Scripture carefully, we are led to the following conclusions:

1. The fall of mankind was foreknown by God.
2. The crucifixion of Christ, the atonement for God’s elect, was foreordained by God.
3. All people will one day glorify God (Psalm 86:9), and God purposes “to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ” (Ephesians 1:10).

God’s purpose was to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness. The glory of God is the overarching goal of creation. In fact, it is the overarching goal of everything He does. The universe was created to display God’s glory (Psalm 19:1), and the wrath of God is revealed against those who fail to glorify God (Romans 1:23). The world that best displays the glory of God is the world we have—a world that was allowed to fall, a world that was redeemed, a world that will be restored to its original perfection.

God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.

In other words, God ordains future events in such a way that our freedom and the working of secondary causes (e.g., laws of nature) are preserved. Theologians call this “concurrence.” God’s sovereign will flows concurrently with our free choices in such a way that our free choices always result in the carrying out of God’s will (by “free” we mean that our choices are not coerced by outside influences). It’s a complex interaction of wills and choices, but the Creator God can handle any amount of complexity.

God foresaw Adam and Eve’s fall. He created them anyway, in His own image, to bring glory to Himself. They were given freedom to make choices. Even though they chose to disobey, their choice became the means by which God’s ultimate will was carried out and by which His full glory will be seen.

quite clear...

does this means that before any one sinned, God knew he would

I mean why would God create me when he knows I would end up in hell..

and this also means he knows every one who is going to miss rapture??

please I'm a little bit confused about this thought..

They said God is omnipotent..and even omnipresent

and he sees the future...and know everything that would happen next right?? and can even do and undo

okay...does this means that God knew Eve would be deceived and Adam would fall with her?

why did he let that happen?...does this also means he wanted man to fall so that sin would come into this world and man would go through suffering?

pls answer with biblical reference if any

I wish I get neighbor like this....
but no..all these karashika girls no go gree

Meklex:
I started with php on my android.
Download androphp or phprunner(they act as a xampp server)
Download droidedit(to type in your codes, it has syntax highlighting) cheers

I downloaded those two apps droidedit and phpdriod I could only write codes using the php edit how can i use both apps to view the display

he he..

God....

women!!...women!!..women!! of these days get mind ehn...

imagine say dis picking go be the president wey go transform naija....na so e for just go

God forgive her...

tunnyl:
Just to let you know brother, i am a Muslim. Every religion will come and tell you, "Follow our God, he is the true God". The truth is, only God knows his true followers. I love the way i worship God because i believe you have to humble yourself before him which requires cleaning yourself and bowing your head to him, irrespective of the name you give to that mode of worship. Labeling the mode of worshiping God is what has led to the problems we are having around the world presently. Everybody is complicating things for themselves, trying to prove which religion is superior.

very true brother....

i am a catholic....thesame problem I'm having with em Pentecostal brothers
they tell you bowing to the pix of Jesus or mary is idolatry and say the way they worship is the only true way

these are just modes of worship....they don't give u ticket to heaven...

only God knows his true followers... true indeed

gimakon:
This is the most matured muslim on Nairaland. Jah bless!

I don't call this type of people Muslims.... I call them Realist!!!

gimakon:
The Al - Ameen, she wrote that?

haba bros....can a three year old write that...??
probably somebody did just to pass d message
you sef use your head nahhh

gimakon:
The Al - Ameen, she wrote that?

haba bros....can a three year old write that...??
probably somebody did just to pass d message
you set use your head nahhh

gimakon:
She's not three years old. And she didn't draw it, you did the drawing.

Well, I like your orientation, why did you have to lie?

lols...

even me sef I wouldn't have believed
but I asked her severally she said she did and nobody taught her

that was why I was amazed and shared it here

tranxo:
3 year old indeed. Find another lie

okay she's 18yrs old.....
do u see it as a truth now??

tunnyl:
she is still a kid. i hope all the brain washing doesnt scatter her sweet orientation.

true talk sha...

we all reasoned this way one time in pry sch

This is what my lover's 3 years old younger sis draw at the back of her exercise book...of which I saw when I was about to help her with her home work

please if this little girl could understand and reason this way...why can't some adults do?

Muslim or Christian we are all one...one God

the difference is just Jesus Christ and Mohammed whom I think we just getting confused about

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hehehe

the guy look tho....him high osogbo weed