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mukina2, can u ban this poster for copy right reason

thank you


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=647904

guys you need to read this book

http://books.google.com/books?id=smUuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw

just shows how pathetic this man was

the whole world knows ojukwu as a coward it is only in Igboland he is celebrated as a hero,.,.,. why

PhysicsHD:
(I don't have de St Jorre's book with me at the moment @ eku_bear)

Let's look at this logically:

1. Would Gowon, pursuing a "no victor, no vanquished" philosophy, have done anything against Ojukwu?
2. Could Gowon have done anything to Ojukwu? Would Azikiwe, Effiiong, etc. have let anything major be done to Ojukwu?


So if he was "fleeing," what was he fleeing from?


He could have surrendered and not left.

That he left must be precisely because he was unyielding in trying to see Biafra actualized. In another thread I already posted an excerpt from de St. Jorre's book that showed how Ojukwu's unwillingness to compromise was one of the key things that pushed Zik to the federal side.

Surely you guys have heard of governments-in-exile? Does the name General Charles de Gaulle ring a bell? What did he do in WW2? Flee out of "cowardice"?  

http://books.google.com/books?id=xjhbAAAAMAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg

http://books.google.com/books?id=iEwuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA

Saro saying he is a coward

http://books.google.com/books?id=KoQuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBA

more and more even him confirmed it,.,., that he is a coward

abadaba:
Mallam suicide bomber, do you mind going back to the zoo and share peanuts with your fellow monkeys instead of chatting bollocks here. At what time did Ojukwu kill Ibibio, Ikwere etc?. Beast of no gender

first of all, we are just debating here,.,. no need for insult

secondly, this same ojukwu solder killed my uncle that were pur igbos by the way,.,.,. how do you explain that is it because they were against biafra

moreover ojukwu killed the ibibio other other eastern leader that were against him ,.,. i am right or wrong ?

Katsumoto:
He was fleeing from death, capture, shame, uncertainty. Was Nzeogwu not captured alive? Did that stop Charles Chandler from killing him in cold blood? He could have been captured and killed or humiliated. A lot of things could have happened.

Is it a coincidence that he fled a day after OBJ's 'operation tail-wind' which captured the last Biafran town? He fled because there was no where else to run to in Biafra.


Please let this matter rest; Ojukwu fled, plain and simple.

thank you, you could not have said it better

Onlytruth:
Solid points which was corroborated by Col Joe Achuzia's last comment on Biafra that Biafra simply decided to stop fighting, hence the interviewer's question to Ojukwu about whether he felt betrayed by those he left behind.

Intelligent folks can easily follow these things but don't hang your hopes on dumb fellows like alj harem.

Some guys here wanted Ojukwu to travel openly and conspicuously when he could have been ambushed and killed by Nigerian forces or even a targeted air strike.

So, if Ojukwu didn't travel which a giant target mark on himself, he must be a coward! LMAO.

Thanks Physics!

onlytruth please do not think i am dumb because you were not alive when the war happen,.,. so you do not know the conditions back then

moreover i see nothing brave about ojukwu,.,.,., i know he ran away cowardly,.,. think about it

thank you,.

PhysicsHD:
Read the book Emeka by Forsyth, to get an idea of how Ojukwu's perspective and attitude changed.

I'm talking about Ojukwu's motivation for leaving in 1970 and you're talking about what Ojukwu decided to do after 1982.  

to be honest, i have not read this book and i do not need to read it,.,. history will tell us the truth,. no matter any book

now brother , you say he wants to actualize biafra so he ran to ivory coast so as to get killed right!!!

do you ask yourself how he intended to do that because according to my igbo brothers, 3 million biafrans die,.,., if 3 million biafrans die where will he get the man power

my biafran brothers said england and co helped nigeria but after losing how does he intend  to get weapon to start another war.

how many years did he plan to wait for before he starts again

also remember the ibibio, ijaw and ikwerri and others are now against igbo thus was he planning to fight with them or against them when he clearly killed there leaders before the war.

this are question we should ask ourselves

i know he ran away because he did not want to die from the nigerian army,.,.,., no book can change that

it is obvious he wanted to change history for him to look good.

hope i have not sounded rude,.,. if so i am sorry but try and think about my post above

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609361.msg7775770#msg7775770 date=1298325152]I have stuff to do today, so hopefully someone else will type up the relevant sections from that book.

Long story short though, looks as if Ojukwu is being a bit disingenuous.[/quote]

T9ksy:
@ bolded . . . . . . . 4 Real!!! He fled like a thief in the night ,@ 03:00, to be precise.


Below is an excerpt from  a book by one of Ojukwu's last "Peace mission"(sic!) member to IC;



Source: The Nigerian Revolution and the Biafran war. By General Alexander A. madiebo. (Biafran Army Commander) pp. 372-373.

i beg leave them alone,.,.,, ,.,.,.,. they want ojukwu to be seen as a hero,.,. then let it be

we nigerians know the truth,.,. please just give them a break,., let's celebrate ileke-idi's birthday

PhysicsMHD:
It's obvious that he left to try and continue the Biafran struggle, not for personal safety. I've never understood how the whole Ivory Coast thing has been twisted into some sort of act of cowardice.

watin you dey talk, so when he came back to nigeria after so many years did he join massob or did he make a political party

sometime i doubt if you know you history brother,.,. very disappointing

if he really wanted to contiune the struggle, he would be calling igbos to order but now he is even collecting pension from the government he fought against,., talk about cowardice and defeated mentality,.low self esteem

sorry bro but you lost it here

Andre Uweh:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-608911.0.html
The above thread has no business with the politics section. Moderators, over to you.

wetin be you problem na

ikeyman00:
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this thread is an insult to us nigerians for such a tribalist tiger like that [size=28pt]ANGRY[/size]

guy if u no like am go hang

bashr4:
MY FRIEND SHUT UP DID I MENTION SW AM TELLING YOU IGBOS MAKE UP 45 PERCENT OF SS DONT YOU KNOW GEOGRAPHY POPULATION OF PH ALONE IS MORE THAN 6 MILLION AND THEY ARE ALL IGBO AND IJAWS AND AM TALKING OF INDIEGENS OF THE STATE OR SHOULD I TELL YOU THE MAKE UP OF DELTA

LET ME SEE HOW IT GOES SPLITING SW BETWEEN BAKARE AND TEDU OR WHATEVER AND LEAVIN[b] THE WHOLE SE AND SS FOR GEJ.[/b]

do not say that GEJ is not sure in even balysea his state not to talk of other

sad be true

bashr4:
i know you couldnt resist this , now good bye cus your waste of internet space,

back to topic so there no hope to bring down this evil called PDP, chai , we are finished, i think revolution is the next option

no no no i did not mean to make you angry,.,.,. if so

i am also against PDP but all i am jsut saying is that the SS is not up to 20% igbo as you suggested,.,. that's all

Justcash:
ACN's choice was a bad one. Ethnic politics aside, it is really a bad choice.
Politics is who gets what, when and how.
ACN should have played the political game as it is now, then implement change when they wrestle power.
FYI, I am not in doubt of the Integrity of the man that was chosen. Infact, I don't even know him. My Question is, why him? How many votes can he win out of 60 + million votes?
Well, I am quite disappointed that Tinubu and co are this politically confused. If they can't get a material that gat quality and popularity, why dint they go for any one with popularity for the time being, till they succeed in wrestling power?
Well, I care less though. I am just abit surprised.

you are right,.,., it is a very bad choice by ACN

moreover they know they will not win no matter the condition.

the treat to Jonathan right now is Buhari/Bakare CPC.

because all he needs to win is bag the NE and NW then 2 states in NC 2 state in SW then 1 state in either SS and  NE that is all he has won

Acn will win just lagos i think very bad choice,.,. i think donald duke would have been a far better choice

bashr4:
MY FRIEND SHUT UP DID I MENTION SW AM TELLING YOU IGBOS MAKE UP 45 PERCENT OF SS DONT YOU KNOW GEOGRAPHY POPULATION OF PH ALONE IS MORE THAN 6 MILLION AND THEY ARE ALL IGBO AND IJAWS AND AM TALKING OF INDIEGENS OF THE STATE OR SHOULD I TELL YOU THE MAKE UP OF DELTA

LET ME SEE HOW IT GOES SPLITING SW BETWEEN BAKARE AND TEDU OR WHATEVER AND LEAVIN THE WHOLE SE AND SS FOR GEJ.

How did you arrived that the figures that 45% in ss are igbos

even rivers state are igbos upto 45%

awka ibom n ko 45% igbo

edo 45% igbo

cross river 45% igbo

balysea 45% igbo as well

ondo 45% igbo

you have to know what you are talking about,.,.,.,. igbos are not even up to 20 or 10% in SS

why do you keep making up number

Muza:
These guyz shuold just join hands with BB,BB is more of a threat to PDP,thats why the GEJ proponents dont waste their energy on Nuhu.
Let them support BB so that Fola could be called upon to manage the economy and Nuhu be called to do what he knows best

gbam,.,. ACN is just an annoying housefly in the mist of real politics

BB for sure,.,.,. [size=18pt]CPC!!!!!! POWER[/size]

Jarus:
Abio.
I agree Zik is greater than Awolowo, but other than that I don't see any of their First 11 or Top 10 not being floored by somebody from Ogun. Obj floors Ojukwu Jnr, Abiola floors Ojukwu Snr, Soyinka floors Achebe, Adenuga doesn't even have a match(it'll be ridiculous to compare Coscharis et al with Mike),

I have asked them to bring forward their First 11 

can you shut your mouth jarus,.,., where did you get that from

ZIK that his burial ground in the east was destroyed

or is it the same ZIK that ran away without tipping others about the coup

can you stop your nonsense

Justcash:
If they had to Yorubanize it, they should have used a political heavy weight .e.g. Tinubu, Fashola etc that can pull a considerable number of supporters.  It is simply a political blunder. Fashola would have been a killer choice.

just cash you are very wrong,

first of all, lagos is juat a state out of 6 states in SW

secondly do you think the majority northerner and igbos or others in lagos will vote based on there choice or based on who majority of lagosians are voting for knowing how violent lagos can be during elections

thridly, NE will vote for a northerner whether Gej or not

NW has the stronges political might and will vote for a northerner

SS will be split into two bwcause of edo, ondo, awka ibom and cross river are not sure that GEJ will win,.,., believe it or not

SE   you know how individualistic our people are,.,.,.,. i bet GEJ will lose a state there

NC is not sure for GEJ as well

please my igbo brother, do not assume people think like you people,.,. at ther end of the day if GEJ loses there is nothing that would happen

look at it this way, when atiku contested agains obj, he lost because the whole north and SW and SE (not SS) voted for him

where was ACN IN 2003,,.,., WHERE WAS CPC IN 2003 did they invest this much agains OBJ in both 1999 and 2003,.,. answer NO


look lets not be relaxed to say GEJ has won because this might be the first election PDP will lose,.,. fact

and please never ever say jonathan has won NC AND NE because of the primaries,., because those are just delegated paid

lets just pray it is going to be BB 2011

dayokanu:
What is the number of registered voters in the SS and SE combined together? Then compare it with only the SW

WELL SAID,.,

thank God he is not stu.pid

how can they ask us to devalue our money because of what

have they told england to do the same

oyinbo no like us at alll

have fun my wife happy birthday

i think kalu is right since it is his party

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=608829.msg7769420#msg7769420 date=1298246104]When did Ibibio affairs, become of interest of you?

Soon you will be claiming Ibibio. [/quote]and is ibibio affairs not the countries affire

ae they no longer nigerians ,.,. guy what are you talking about i see them as nigerians ok!!!!

moreover why do you give us igbos bad names behave yourselve oh

THE adoption of Jonathan by former Governor Orji Kalu’s Progressive Peoples Alliance (PPA) is a fluke and a ploy to destabilise the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) both at national and state levels, says Ben Onyechere, Special Adviser on Media to Governor Theodore Orji of Abia State.

He disclosed that Kalu, whose efforts to re-enter the PDP were rebuffed, is making another attempt albeit through the back door. This time, he is playing the ostrich game by pretending to adopt Jonathan, when, in actual sense, he is a candidate in the election.

Kalu’s tactics, he notes, is better regarded as dead on arrival because nobody would associate with him both at the national and state levels of the PDP. He cannot come at this late hour to reap where he did not sow, otherwise he should renounce his candidature in the forthcoming elections at both levels, if he wants to be taken serious.

In a statement made available to The Guardian at the weekend, Onyechere said one would have thought that Kalu ought to have understood by now that his games are up because he has exhausted his bag of tricks, since his only target is, first and foremost, how to sway and deceive the electorate using the name of the president, who has on several accessions rejected Kalu’s inordinate request to be chief of staff to the president or minister, which was the main reason why the PPA lost out in the Government of National Unity (GNU).

He said: “He pressurised the president for those appointments instead of allowing the man whom the party had initially nominated in the GNU for which reason the president became apprehensive and dropped the idea.
“While he was begging the president for appointment, he still pretended to the party members that he was running for president. His recent gimmick is a Greek gift, an after thought that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

“Currently, the people of Abia are enjoying a cordial relationship with the presidency and do not need anybody of Kalu’s character to come and create confusion, because he cannot give what he does not have. The people of Nigeria and South East are much more politically aware now than before, and as such, Kalu does not stand any chance trying to deceive anybody any longer, having misled the Igbo who thought he was genuine.

“To him, everything is business including using human beings to bargain for selfish interest. Kalu’s latest subterranean ambush is coming on the heels of the subsisting restraining order on Governor Orji’s recognition by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) by an Abuja High Court.”

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39147:kalus-adoption-of-jonathan-a-fluke-says-orjis-aide&catid=1:national&Itemid=559