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guys you need to read this book

http://books.google.com/books?id=smUuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw

just shows how pathetic this man was

the whole world knows ojukwu as a coward it is only in Igboland he is celebrated as a hero,.,.,. why

PhysicsHD:
(I don't have de St Jorre's book with me at the moment @ eku_bear)

Let's look at this logically:

1. Would Gowon, pursuing a "no victor, no vanquished" philosophy, have done anything against Ojukwu?
2. Could Gowon have done anything to Ojukwu? Would Azikiwe, Effiiong, etc. have let anything major be done to Ojukwu?


So if he was "fleeing," what was he fleeing from?


He could have surrendered and not left.

That he left must be precisely because he was unyielding in trying to see Biafra actualized. In another thread I already posted an excerpt from de St. Jorre's book that showed how Ojukwu's unwillingness to compromise was one of the key things that pushed Zik to the federal side.

Surely you guys have heard of governments-in-exile? Does the name General Charles de Gaulle ring a bell? What did he do in WW2? Flee out of "cowardice"?  

http://books.google.com/books?id=xjhbAAAAMAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg

http://books.google.com/books?id=iEwuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA

Saro saying he is a coward

http://books.google.com/books?id=KoQuAQAAIAAJ&q=why+ojukwu+coward&dq=why+ojukwu+coward&hl=en&ei=LO5iTe7IIJKp8QP2qLTxCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBA

more and more even him confirmed it,.,., that he is a coward

abadaba:
Mallam suicide bomber, do you mind going back to the zoo and share peanuts with your fellow monkeys instead of chatting bollocks here. At what time did Ojukwu kill Ibibio, Ikwere etc?. Beast of no gender

first of all, we are just debating here,.,. no need for insult

secondly, this same ojukwu solder killed my uncle that were pur igbos by the way,.,.,. how do you explain that is it because they were against biafra

moreover ojukwu killed the ibibio other other eastern leader that were against him ,.,. i am right or wrong ?

Katsumoto:
He was fleeing from death, capture, shame, uncertainty. Was Nzeogwu not captured alive? Did that stop Charles Chandler from killing him in cold blood? He could have been captured and killed or humiliated. A lot of things could have happened.

Is it a coincidence that he fled a day after OBJ's 'operation tail-wind' which captured the last Biafran town? He fled because there was no where else to run to in Biafra.


Please let this matter rest; Ojukwu fled, plain and simple.

thank you, you could not have said it better

Onlytruth:
Solid points which was corroborated by Col Joe Achuzia's last comment on Biafra that Biafra simply decided to stop fighting, hence the interviewer's question to Ojukwu about whether he felt betrayed by those he left behind.

Intelligent folks can easily follow these things but don't hang your hopes on dumb fellows like alj harem.

Some guys here wanted Ojukwu to travel openly and conspicuously when he could have been ambushed and killed by Nigerian forces or even a targeted air strike.

So, if Ojukwu didn't travel which a giant target mark on himself, he must be a coward! LMAO.

Thanks Physics!

onlytruth please do not think i am dumb because you were not alive when the war happen,.,. so you do not know the conditions back then

moreover i see nothing brave about ojukwu,.,.,., i know he ran away cowardly,.,. think about it

thank you,.

PhysicsHD:
Read the book Emeka by Forsyth, to get an idea of how Ojukwu's perspective and attitude changed.

I'm talking about Ojukwu's motivation for leaving in 1970 and you're talking about what Ojukwu decided to do after 1982.  

to be honest, i have not read this book and i do not need to read it,.,. history will tell us the truth,. no matter any book

now brother , you say he wants to actualize biafra so he ran to ivory coast so as to get killed right!!!

do you ask yourself how he intended to do that because according to my igbo brothers, 3 million biafrans die,.,., if 3 million biafrans die where will he get the man power

my biafran brothers said england and co helped nigeria but after losing how does he intend  to get weapon to start another war.

how many years did he plan to wait for before he starts again

also remember the ibibio, ijaw and ikwerri and others are now against igbo thus was he planning to fight with them or against them when he clearly killed there leaders before the war.

this are question we should ask ourselves

i know he ran away because he did not want to die from the nigerian army,.,.,., no book can change that

it is obvious he wanted to change history for him to look good.

hope i have not sounded rude,.,. if so i am sorry but try and think about my post above

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609361.msg7775770#msg7775770 date=1298325152]I have stuff to do today, so hopefully someone else will type up the relevant sections from that book.

Long story short though, looks as if Ojukwu is being a bit disingenuous.[/quote]

T9ksy:
@ bolded . . . . . . . 4 Real!!! He fled like a thief in the night ,@ 03:00, to be precise.


Below is an excerpt from  a book by one of Ojukwu's last "Peace mission"(sic!) member to IC;



Source: The Nigerian Revolution and the Biafran war. By General Alexander A. madiebo. (Biafran Army Commander) pp. 372-373.

i beg leave them alone,.,.,, ,.,.,.,. they want ojukwu to be seen as a hero,.,. then let it be

we nigerians know the truth,.,. please just give them a break,., let's celebrate ileke-idi's birthday

PhysicsMHD:
It's obvious that he left to try and continue the Biafran struggle, not for personal safety. I've never understood how the whole Ivory Coast thing has been twisted into some sort of act of cowardice.

watin you dey talk, so when he came back to nigeria after so many years did he join massob or did he make a political party

sometime i doubt if you know you history brother,.,. very disappointing

if he really wanted to contiune the struggle, he would be calling igbos to order but now he is even collecting pension from the government he fought against,., talk about cowardice and defeated mentality,.low self esteem

sorry bro but you lost it here

Andre Uweh:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-608911.0.html
The above thread has no business with the politics section. Moderators, over to you.

wetin be you problem na

ikeyman00:
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this thread is an insult to us nigerians for such a tribalist tiger like that [size=28pt]ANGRY[/size]

guy if u no like am go hang

bashr4:
MY FRIEND SHUT UP DID I MENTION SW AM TELLING YOU IGBOS MAKE UP 45 PERCENT OF SS DONT YOU KNOW GEOGRAPHY POPULATION OF PH ALONE IS MORE THAN 6 MILLION AND THEY ARE ALL IGBO AND IJAWS AND AM TALKING OF INDIEGENS OF THE STATE OR SHOULD I TELL YOU THE MAKE UP OF DELTA

LET ME SEE HOW IT GOES SPLITING SW BETWEEN BAKARE AND TEDU OR WHATEVER AND LEAVIN[b] THE WHOLE SE AND SS FOR GEJ.[/b]

do not say that GEJ is not sure in even balysea his state not to talk of other

sad be true

bashr4:
i know you couldnt resist this , now good bye cus your waste of internet space,

back to topic so there no hope to bring down this evil called PDP, chai , we are finished, i think revolution is the next option

no no no i did not mean to make you angry,.,.,. if so

i am also against PDP but all i am jsut saying is that the SS is not up to 20% igbo as you suggested,.,. that's all

Justcash:
ACN's choice was a bad one. Ethnic politics aside, it is really a bad choice.
Politics is who gets what, when and how.
ACN should have played the political game as it is now, then implement change when they wrestle power.
FYI, I am not in doubt of the Integrity of the man that was chosen. Infact, I don't even know him. My Question is, why him? How many votes can he win out of 60 + million votes?
Well, I am quite disappointed that Tinubu and co are this politically confused. If they can't get a material that gat quality and popularity, why dint they go for any one with popularity for the time being, till they succeed in wrestling power?
Well, I care less though. I am just abit surprised.

you are right,.,., it is a very bad choice by ACN

moreover they know they will not win no matter the condition.

the treat to Jonathan right now is Buhari/Bakare CPC.

because all he needs to win is bag the NE and NW then 2 states in NC 2 state in SW then 1 state in either SS and  NE that is all he has won

Acn will win just lagos i think very bad choice,.,. i think donald duke would have been a far better choice

bashr4:
MY FRIEND SHUT UP DID I MENTION SW AM TELLING YOU IGBOS MAKE UP 45 PERCENT OF SS DONT YOU KNOW GEOGRAPHY POPULATION OF PH ALONE IS MORE THAN 6 MILLION AND THEY ARE ALL IGBO AND IJAWS AND AM TALKING OF INDIEGENS OF THE STATE OR SHOULD I TELL YOU THE MAKE UP OF DELTA

LET ME SEE HOW IT GOES SPLITING SW BETWEEN BAKARE AND TEDU OR WHATEVER AND LEAVIN THE WHOLE SE AND SS FOR GEJ.

How did you arrived that the figures that 45% in ss are igbos

even rivers state are igbos upto 45%

awka ibom n ko 45% igbo

edo 45% igbo

cross river 45% igbo

balysea 45% igbo as well

ondo 45% igbo

you have to know what you are talking about,.,.,.,. igbos are not even up to 20 or 10% in SS

why do you keep making up number

Muza:
These guyz shuold just join hands with BB,BB is more of a threat to PDP,thats why the GEJ proponents dont waste their energy on Nuhu.
Let them support BB so that Fola could be called upon to manage the economy and Nuhu be called to do what he knows best

gbam,.,. ACN is just an annoying housefly in the mist of real politics

BB for sure,.,.,. [size=18pt]CPC!!!!!! POWER[/size]

Jarus:
Abio.
I agree Zik is greater than Awolowo, but other than that I don't see any of their First 11 or Top 10 not being floored by somebody from Ogun. Obj floors Ojukwu Jnr, Abiola floors Ojukwu Snr, Soyinka floors Achebe, Adenuga doesn't even have a match(it'll be ridiculous to compare Coscharis et al with Mike),

I have asked them to bring forward their First 11 

can you shut your mouth jarus,.,., where did you get that from

ZIK that his burial ground in the east was destroyed

or is it the same ZIK that ran away without tipping others about the coup

can you stop your nonsense

Justcash:
If they had to Yorubanize it, they should have used a political heavy weight .e.g. Tinubu, Fashola etc that can pull a considerable number of supporters.  It is simply a political blunder. Fashola would have been a killer choice.

just cash you are very wrong,

first of all, lagos is juat a state out of 6 states in SW

secondly do you think the majority northerner and igbos or others in lagos will vote based on there choice or based on who majority of lagosians are voting for knowing how violent lagos can be during elections

thridly, NE will vote for a northerner whether Gej or not

NW has the stronges political might and will vote for a northerner

SS will be split into two bwcause of edo, ondo, awka ibom and cross river are not sure that GEJ will win,.,., believe it or not

SE   you know how individualistic our people are,.,.,.,. i bet GEJ will lose a state there

NC is not sure for GEJ as well

please my igbo brother, do not assume people think like you people,.,. at ther end of the day if GEJ loses there is nothing that would happen

look at it this way, when atiku contested agains obj, he lost because the whole north and SW and SE (not SS) voted for him

where was ACN IN 2003,,.,., WHERE WAS CPC IN 2003 did they invest this much agains OBJ in both 1999 and 2003,.,. answer NO


look lets not be relaxed to say GEJ has won because this might be the first election PDP will lose,.,. fact

and please never ever say jonathan has won NC AND NE because of the primaries,., because those are just delegated paid

lets just pray it is going to be BB 2011

dayokanu:
What is the number of registered voters in the SS and SE combined together? Then compare it with only the SW

WELL SAID,.,

thank God he is not stu.pid

how can they ask us to devalue our money because of what

have they told england to do the same

oyinbo no like us at alll

have fun my wife happy birthday

i think kalu is right since it is his party

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=608829.msg7769420#msg7769420 date=1298246104]When did Ibibio affairs, become of interest of you?

Soon you will be claiming Ibibio. [/quote]and is ibibio affairs not the countries affire

ae they no longer nigerians ,.,. guy what are you talking about i see them as nigerians ok!!!!

moreover why do you give us igbos bad names behave yourselve oh

THE adoption of Jonathan by former Governor Orji Kalu’s Progressive Peoples Alliance (PPA) is a fluke and a ploy to destabilise the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) both at national and state levels, says Ben Onyechere, Special Adviser on Media to Governor Theodore Orji of Abia State.

He disclosed that Kalu, whose efforts to re-enter the PDP were rebuffed, is making another attempt albeit through the back door. This time, he is playing the ostrich game by pretending to adopt Jonathan, when, in actual sense, he is a candidate in the election.

Kalu’s tactics, he notes, is better regarded as dead on arrival because nobody would associate with him both at the national and state levels of the PDP. He cannot come at this late hour to reap where he did not sow, otherwise he should renounce his candidature in the forthcoming elections at both levels, if he wants to be taken serious.

In a statement made available to The Guardian at the weekend, Onyechere said one would have thought that Kalu ought to have understood by now that his games are up because he has exhausted his bag of tricks, since his only target is, first and foremost, how to sway and deceive the electorate using the name of the president, who has on several accessions rejected Kalu’s inordinate request to be chief of staff to the president or minister, which was the main reason why the PPA lost out in the Government of National Unity (GNU).

He said: “He pressurised the president for those appointments instead of allowing the man whom the party had initially nominated in the GNU for which reason the president became apprehensive and dropped the idea.
“While he was begging the president for appointment, he still pretended to the party members that he was running for president. His recent gimmick is a Greek gift, an after thought that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

“Currently, the people of Abia are enjoying a cordial relationship with the presidency and do not need anybody of Kalu’s character to come and create confusion, because he cannot give what he does not have. The people of Nigeria and South East are much more politically aware now than before, and as such, Kalu does not stand any chance trying to deceive anybody any longer, having misled the Igbo who thought he was genuine.

“To him, everything is business including using human beings to bargain for selfish interest. Kalu’s latest subterranean ambush is coming on the heels of the subsisting restraining order on Governor Orji’s recognition by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) by an Abuja High Court.”

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39147:kalus-adoption-of-jonathan-a-fluke-says-orjis-aide&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

The largest ethnic group in Akwa Ibom State, the Ibibio, during the week, dissociated itself from the ambition of former junior minister, Senator John Akpanudoedehe of

the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), over his alleged divisive actions and utterances.

At a meeting recently at the palace of Ntisong Ibibio, the Akwa Esop Imaisong Ibibio, the umbrella association comprising traditional rulers, elders, leaders and stakeholders in Ibibioland, suspended Udoedehe’s campaign manager, Obong Thomas Akpan, for allegedly sponsoring some incisive and divisive publications in some local newspapers.

Akpan and his principal were accused by the organisation of “preaching ethnic division in Akwa Ibom State in the name of campaigning for votes, instead of espousing his manifestoes and programmes.”

One of the offending publications had quoted Ntisong Essien Udo Ekidem III, the leader of the group as saying “that Ibibio people had been used for sacrifice in the past three years by the Akpabio administration, hence, the Ibibio should not vote a non-Ibibio.”

Members of the Esop were said to have unanimously reaffirmed support for Governor Akpabio, based on what they described as “his unprecedented and uncommon transformation both in Ibibioland and the entire state.”

Reiterating the stance of the Ibibio, the patriarch of the Esop, Ntisong Ekidem, in a press release, dissociated himself and the entire Esop from Udoedehe’s utterances and publications, saying, “I completely dissociate myself and the Akwa Esop Imaisong Ibibio from the said publication as they are ill-conceived, malicious, irresponsible, false, reckless and highly embarrassing to me, the membership of Akwa Esop Imaisong Ibibio and indeed the entire Ibibio race.”

The said publication is intended to cause disaffection among the entire Ibibio race, the government and our sister ethnic groups in the state”, Ekidem said.

Ntisong Ekidem described them “desperate political wolves who are always craving for the slightest opportunity to foment trouble in the state” advising the peace loving and good people of Akwa Ibom and residents to consign it to the dust-bin of negativism.

“It must be stressed that I, the membership of Akwa Esop Imaisong Ibibio and indeed, the entire Ibibio race are satisfied with the excellent performance of the administration of Chief Godswill Obot Akpabio, which can be seen in the fair and equitable distribution of projects and appointments in the State. It was for this reason that the Ibibio race unanimously endorsed him for a second term at Asan Ibibio on October 10, 2009.

It must be stressed that as credible leaders of Ibibioland, we are not given to double speak. Thus, I wish to once again declare for the avoidance of doubt that, ‘on Asan Ibibio declaration we stand’”, he added

The Ntisong said they have noted the current security challenges in the state and that “Akwa Esop Imaisong Ibibio is satisfied with the measures the State Government has so far taken and urges all Akwa Ibom persons to cooperate with the state government to ensure that the criminals are made to face the full weight of the law”.

Akwa Esop wishes to warn mischief makers who are in the habit of using a crime committed in the state as a political weapon to divide the state along tribal lines and fan embers of disunity, discord and acrimony to desist forthwith”, the release said.

With the massive show of solidarity from the Ibibios, the April election may well be a work over for Governor Akpabio, despite attempts by his opponents to stop him through

discrediting his government.

It was also learnt that the leadership of the largest ethnic group in the state decided to reaffirm its support for the second term ambition of Governor Akpabio based on the fact that it was not yet the turn of Uyo Senatorial district to produce the next governor having served out its eight year tenure through Obong Victor Attah and it was therefore normal and in the spirit of fairness and equal right that Ikot Ekpene district be allowed to complete its eight year tenure through the incumbent governor.

http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/front-page-articles/3214-ibibio-people-disown-akpanudoedehesuspend-campaign-coordinator-reaffirm-support-for-akpabio

Apressure group from Imo State, Imo Interest Group on Friday announced plans to begin a campaign aimed at sensitising indigenes and voters in Imo State to vote out the state governor, Ikedi Ohakim, in the April 2011 governorship election in the state.

In a statement issued on Friday in Abuja and signed by Barrister Uchenna Nwachukwu, the group’s co-coordinator, they said their grouse with Governor Ohakim is his non-performance in office.

The group said they were angry that despite the fact that the state governor has nothing to show for his four years stay in office, the governor is now using religion in his bid to win a second term in office.

The group condemned in its entirety the upsurge in the politicisation of religion in the state by Governor Ohakim.

They bemoaned what they called the use of money to lure some priests and members of the clergy in Okigwe as reported in a national newspaper.

The group commend-ed the men of God for rejecting the Greek gift, “because the strange offer from Ohakim connoted a bizarre effort to silence the priests in the face of rising tyranny, oppression and misrule in Imo State.”

The group also took a swipe at one of the gover-nor’s men who was reported to have offered a priest N1 million after he tricked the religious men/women into coming for a meeting in his house in Mbano.

Expressing anger over the entire episode which took place in the state recently, the group said: “Imagine the mockery and mischief that would have brought to the church leaders in the state and to the entire Christendom had the priests accepted the money.

The Imo Interest Group, in the press statement, condemned the level of desperation to win the Catholic Church by all means as exhibited in the announcement of Viola Onwuliri, a professor and wife of a knight of the Catholic Church, as his running mates in the April governorship election in the state.

Onwuliri, from Ahiazu Mbaise LGA replaced Ada Okwuonu, the deputy governor and an Anglican from Aboh- Mbaise.

Coming at a time the governor was not known to have had any problem with his deputy, Ada Okwuonu, a member of the Anglican Church , the group said “the choice of Onwuliri is widely believed to be an act of desperation which has the potency of pitching a section of the state against another.

http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/news/3221-imo-group-begins-campaign-against-ohakims-re-election-

Residents of Jos, the Plateau State capital have expressed disappointment that the visit of the President, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan, to Jos on Thursday, did not give them much hope on the security situation in the state.


Many residents of the city who spoke to SUNDAY PUNCH on Friday said they had expected that the President would have made a concrete statement on the security situation in the state so as to give them confidence and hope.


Acting Director, Centre for Conflict Management and Peace Studies of the University of Jos, Prof Audu Gambo, and a lecturer in the centre, Mr. Joseph Longmang, who spoke to our correspondent in separate interviews, said the president did not use the opportunity of the visit to address security which was the most critical need of the people of the state.


Gambo said, “What the ordinary citizen of Plateau expected at this time, beyond the rhetoric of politicking, is that the president should have made a categorical and firm statement on how to restore peace on the Plateau. Instead of addressing critical issues like security that will give the people hope in the face of the recurring crises in the state, his visit left the people of the state disappointed.”


Gambo also expressed disappointment that even Governor Jonah Jang had not taken the issue of security very seriously.


Longmang, who shared Gambo’s opinion, said the president should have used the opportunity to lay a foundation for a lasting peace on the Plateau.


He said, “I quite appreciate the fact that the president was on a state visit and, as such, should perform a state function, but given the situation on the Plateau, we had expected that his visit would give a semblance of peace in the face of the degenerating security situation in the state. Perhaps he should have taken a step, which might not have been taken in the past to lay the foundation for peace.


“If I were the president, I would have taken the opportunity of the visit to the Gbong Gwom’s Palace to take a walk along Moshalasi Juma’a to assure the residents that the government is there for them.


“I should have equally used that opportunity to organise a peace meeting where I will be the chairman, where I will use my paraphernalia of office to engender a lasting peace, considering the fact that this is no longer a Plateau problem. This will create a very big impression that government is abreast of the situation in the state. It will not give people the impression that what the president is interested in is only in their votes.”


Longmang noted that if the president had done all these and even talked about his meeting with stakeholders, it would lay a solid foundation for sustainable peace in the state.


http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201102201461512

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=607950.msg7769247#msg7769247 date=1298243112]Alj haram, kedu? [/quote]but chyz you are going craze with this kedu you keep telling me

why na ?

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=607950.msg7769247#msg7769247 date=1298243112]Alj haram, kedu? [/quote]odunma