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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595370.msg7637158#msg7637158 date=1296449278]OPC = Yoruba? I doubt Yoruba citizens wake up each morning to hack their Northern counterpart.

What is "yorubas and igbos"? You cant even say "Yoruba" alone?

Seems to me that you're typing this to sound momentarily neutral. It's okay sha. Keep on with the discussion.[/quote]thanks for the understanding

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637148#msg7637148 date=1296449000]Those Igbos are picking up what the Aro Igbo before them left off. Too bad Arochukwu has fallen on hard times. Ever since our defeat by the British, we have lost our prominence in our region. Sad day when they sacked Arochukwu.

The Aro only live in the shadow of our proud history.[/quote]awwww

sorry eh sorry brother

instead of looking at Aro why not look at igbo as a whole

if you notice when the yorubas talk, they say "yoruba glory days" they do not stop at oyo empire but call themselves together

if the northerners talk, you call them hausa/fulani, that way they see themselves as one

why can igbo be call igbo instead of aro, ngwa, anioma etc

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595370.msg7637132#msg7637132 date=1296448585]I dont know what to make of you. I dont trust you.
You're sth else. . . . you enjoy the suffering of Yoruba people, yet you say you love them. Why is that?[/quote]ileke-idi, firstly, northerners are not killing yorubas in kogi and kwara, it is actually the reverse that is going on,.,., OPC killed northerners in kwara last year about 3 of them in the pretences that they killed an old man

secondly i love yorubas and igbos equally

ileke-idi you have to trust me, i do not enjoy when yorubas or igbos are suffering,., seriously

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595370.msg7637120#msg7637120 date=1296448286]*death*

Yes we do!! Quit killing my people in Kwara. ♦ [/quote]what,.,., the no yorubas are killed in kwara that i have heard of in recent times

jason123:
Chai! Everyone should take note of this snake in our mist.

jason u are a phyco

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637112#msg7637112 date=1296448146]To be honest, I swear some Igbos clans will still scream marginalization. Not naming any names.  In Aba, you hear traders complaining about Igbos from Anambra. Many Igbos in Abia and Ebonyi fear Anambra domination and I don't know why.[/quote]smh we igbos have to know the cause of this mistrust

did we sarifice anyone to amadohia while he was innocent and now he is hurting us

smh

@asha80

i understand what you feel

do not worry nigeria is our home , atleast yorubas, edo, idoma and co do not have problem with us

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637090#msg7637090 date=1296447642]Wow! The Oyo Empire was truly a force to be reckoned with. They even defeated the mighty Asante Confederacy in battle. And anyone who knows the Asante people will understand that the Ashanti were warriors.

The Ashanti even raided their Muslim neighbors for slaves instead of the other way around.

It is interesting how the Ashanti terrorized their Muslim Northerners while Oyo was falling because of the Fulani conquest.[/quote]remember, the fulanis us to sell hausa slaves to yorubas as a way of showing there support and love to the yrobas

but as usual the tribal yorubas did not see this instead they wanted kwara back and kogi which was part of kwara provice

smh

it would have been kanuri/hausa/fulani/yoruba today

but yorubas are just too tribal

jason123:
Never, ever, talk about my ethnic group. Two faced-idio.t!

why are you angry

you better claim the eff down

jason123:
@ Harem,

WETIN CONCERN YOU YOU WERE INSULTING THE YORUBAS ON THE OTHER THREAD NOW YOU ARE SUPPORTING THEM

me insult yorubas where

i love yorubas just like as i love igbos

in fact my name is now ALHAJI ABDULHAREM UCHEZE CIROMA TUNDE

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637064#msg7637064 date=1296447157]I have lived in Ghana and been to Togo countless times. I didn't hear any Yoruba being spoken. Maybe because I was in Lome, which is in the Ewe heartland, that is why I didn't hear the language.

But you can say that there are no native Yorubas in GHANA![/quote]i know, who would believe itsekiris are part of yorubas if i talk to an itsekiri man i would think he is an edo man

there are different diclent in yoruba i think

if you go to togo today you would think there are no yorubas there but if you ask them they will tell you they are yorubas

there dressing and language is different just like itsekiri is

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637061#msg7637061 date=1296447076]So the Ede Nago are Yoruba? Wonders never amaze me. Do they consider themselves Yoruba?   I find this new found information fascinating.[/quote]yoruba people in togo

just like itsekiri
https://www.ktravula.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/photo20_500-300x207.jpg

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637056#msg7637056 date=1296446963]Why are we even arguing about the Yoruba on an Igbo thread?   [/quote]oboy, you and chyz were arguing on something you do not know


why

yorubas writings in togo church
https://www.christusrex.org/www1/pater/images/yoruba-s.jpg

[img]http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~bcr/Bayly/Yoruba_gelede.JPG[/img]

yoruba act in togo

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637036#msg7637036 date=1296446640]I am not arguing about Benin. I already know there are Yorubas in Benin. But not in Togo.[/quote]Yoruba and Aja
The Yoruba and the Aja have been living togeteher betweenn Nigeria and Togo for cenruries. The Yoruba are spread East and West of the Aja who seems to be a later incursion in the region cutting the Yoruba into two. The Aja, made up principally of the Egun'Gun), Fon, Arada and other smaller groups in southern Benin are closeley related by language, belifes, economy, political and social systems. Large area of the Yoruba-Aja country were, at various periodss, under the same political authority.
They share the same origin: Ile-Ife. The Aja's supreme deity("Lisa" from the Yoruba "Orisa" is Mawu, no other person than the Yoruba Orisa "Orisa Nla" or Obotala, the divinty of creation. The Ajaq also practise the cult of the Yoruba Sango(Xevioso) and Esu'Legbara).

http://siyanbola.esmartweb.com/Aromiyo/Yoruba/yoruba.htm

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637032#msg7637032 date=1296446606]I know about that battle. The Oyo Empire was trying to help the Dahomey Kingdom against the Ashanti Empire. Last time I checked, Dahomey was not a Yoruba kingdom. It was a Fon Kingdom![/quote]dahomey was not what!!!!!!! what are you talking about brother,.,. learn your history

https://siyanbola.esmartweb.com/Aromiyo/Yoruba/graphics/maps/oyo_aja4.jpg

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637025#msg7637025 date=1296446405]My map shows the boundaries. And I have been to these areas. I know the Yoruba areas of Benin. Togo is practically all Ewe in the Southern region. The Volta Region which is Ghana's Eastern section of the country is all Ewe.

Now how can you tell me what I have seen with my two eyes?

Plus, I have lived in Ghana and I used to go to Lome quite often?[/quote]

alj harem:
was the same response from the Onidigny of Idigny, another Yoruba settlement in Benin as well as from the Onisakete of Sakete. With each Yorubaman expected to have an unlimited number of children, no wonder Yorubaland had, over the centuries, been able to extend to a vast area of West Africa, holding tenaciously to the inherited culture.

And when the European powers met in Berlin from 1884 to 1885 to partition Africa, Yorubaland was partitioned into three. One in Nigeria, the second in Benin and the third in Togo.

Although the Yoruba, today, are estimated at about 30 million in Nigeria, they are, according to the last population census, just about one million (15 per cent of the population) in Benin. The French encyclopaedic Dictionary Larousse (1988), put the figure for Togo also at one million, a figure which people say, is rather exaggerated.

Benin Republic is now made up of 12 provinces. Porto-Novo is the political capital of the country and it is there you have the parliament, even though, for reason of convenience and political calculations, the various heads of state have, since independence, preferred to stay in Cotonou.

Porto-Novo is called "Ajase" (or Ajache) by the Yoruba. The Gouns call it Hogbonu (or Hogbonou).

http://www.beninensis.net/benin_anango.htm

this is a website from benin

you need to know what you are talking about

even the yorubas in benin are saying the same thing

tell me how ijaws jumped over itsekiris in delta and claim some part of ondo

was the same response from the Onidigny of Idigny, another Yoruba settlement in Benin as well as from the Onisakete of Sakete. With each Yorubaman expected to have an unlimited number of children, no wonder Yorubaland had, over the centuries, been able to extend to a vast area of West Africa, holding tenaciously to the inherited culture.

And when the European powers met in Berlin from 1884 to 1885 to partition Africa, Yorubaland was partitioned into three. One in Nigeria, the second in Benin and the third in Togo.

Although the Yoruba, today, are estimated at about 30 million in Nigeria, they are, according to the last population census, just about one million (15 per cent of the population) in Benin. The French encyclopaedic Dictionary Larousse (1988), put the figure for Togo also at one million, a figure which people say, is rather exaggerated.

Benin Republic is now made up of 12 provinces. Porto-Novo is the political capital of the country and it is there you have the parliament, even though, for reason of convenience and political calculations, the various heads of state have, since independence, preferred to stay in Cotonou.

Porto-Novo is called "Ajase" (or Ajache) by the Yoruba. The Gouns call it Hogbonu (or Hogbonou).

http://www.beninensis.net/benin_anango.htm

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7637015#msg7637015 date=1296446140]Seems like people need to see a map.

This is the map of Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast etc[/quote]a people living in western and southwestern Nigeria (10 to 12 million persons in 1972, according to rough estimates); Dahomey (more than 200, 000 persons), where they are called the Nago or Anago; and Togo, where a small number lives.

The ethnic Yoruba groups include the 6yo, Ife, Ijesha, and Egba. They all consider themselves a single people and have a single culture. They speak the Yoruba language, which has a number of dialects. The Yoruba language has its own literature; newspapers are published in the language, and it is used for instruction in the schools. Islam and Christianity coexist among the Yoruba, along with a polytheism with a well-developed pantheon of gods. States existed among the Yoruba long before the arrival of Europeans in West Africa (in the 15th century). The Yoruba were the creators of remarkable bronze and terra-cotta sculptures that flourished from the 12th to the 14th century and that were possibly associated with the more ancient Nok culture (end of the first millennium b.c.). The Yoruba art of bronze-casting was taken up by the Benin peoples. The chief occupation of the Yoruba is farming (yams, cacao). Among the Yoruba, developing capitalist relations are closely intertwined with strong survivals of earlier social structures.

REFERENCES
Ismagilova, R. N. Narody Nigerii. Moscow, 1963.
Forde, D. The Yoruba-speaking Peoples of Southwestern Nigeria. London, 1951.
Johnson, S. The History of the Yorubas: From the Earliest Times to the Beginning of the British Protectorate. London, 1921.

It may be, as Parrinder suggests, that the whole of the central Benin Republic was once inhabited by Yoruba-speaking groups called the Sa. The names Sabq, Savalou, Idaisa, Isa and Tchaouru all appear to be derived from this root (1947: 126). The present location and composition of these western groups is the result of three sets of factors: the collapse of the ancient kingdoms and the dispersal of their inhabitants; the encroachment of other ethnic groups from the south and west; and the later arrival of other Yoruba-speaking groups from further east. In the Idaisa kingdom round Dassa-Zoume, for instance, the population consists of groups originating from Ifita, Oyo, Sabe, and Ketu in addition to the Ewe-speaking Mahi (Igue and Yai, 1973: 18). The ruling dynasty originated from Egba in the 17th or 18th centuries though other titles still survive from before their arrival. Similarly, the Isa in the Bante area came from Iloji, Oyo and Pesi in Togo, while the Manigiri near Bassila left Sabe at the time of the Baba Gidai invasion. Kingship in these areas appears to be defunct, and they now consist of small autonomous villages.

http://lucy.ukc.ac.uk/YorubaT/yt1.html

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7636982#msg7636982 date=1296445449]Igbos have been present in Cameroon since pre-colonial times. I should know, most of the Igbo present in Cameroon are from my very own Aro Clan.[/quote]This study intends to bring If ̣ è (Togo) into a linguistic limelight using the numeral systems.
Numerals are a very important aspect of the day to day socio-economic and linguistic life of
If ̣ è (Togo) people. The traditional If ̣ è (Togo) number system is vigesimal. In this study, fortytwo different number words are listed for Yorùbá  If ̣ è (Nigeria) and Yorùbá  If ̣ è (Togo) and
compared with Standard Yorùbá. We compared the  If ̣ è (Togo) number words and counting
patterns with that of the Standard Yorùbá and If ̣ è (Nigeria) and discovered that, by the nature
of the components of these numbers, majority of the basic number words are either bisyllabic
or trisyllabic, each syllable having the form VCV for the cardinals, and CVCV for the
ordinals. There are irregularities in tonality; there are also alternations in the sequences of the
vowel (oral and nasalized) and consonant sounds. This work finds out that If ̣ è (Togo) has two
counting patterns. In the first pattern, it uses addition solely to derive the number words but
with a counting pattern where 'ten', 'twenty' and the added number units are taken as a whole.
In the second counting pattern, subtraction is used to derive number words but this is
applicable only to three numbers i. e.  seventeen – /m ́ ɛɛtadínóɡú/, eighteen – /méèʤìdínóɡu/
and nineteen – /m ̀ ɔk ̃ɔdínóɡu/. The If ̣ è (Togo) dialect of Yorùbá mostly uses additive number
positions. The dialect favours additive number positions more than the subtractive and the
multiplicative positions. In other words, higher numbers are frequently used as bases for
addition not as bases for multiplication in If ̣ è (Togo). There are many linguistic variations in
the number words employed by If ̣ è (Togo) and If ̣ è (Nigeria) dialects of Yorùbá, such
variations can be attributed to changes in time and distance.

http://www.linguistik-online.de/43_10/fabunmi.pdf

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=595370.msg7636986#msg7636986 date=1296445507]Please stop eating sand and just go buy garri.It is seriously screwing with your brain. Where in the world did you get the bolded from?![/quote]why the insult

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7636970#msg7636970 date=1296445271]False! I have been to Lome plenty of times and I rarely see any Yorubas. I have seen more Hausa and Igbos in Togo than I ever seen Yorubas. However, in Benin, there are plenty of Yorubas.

And Ewe do not consider themselves Yoruba. Who told you that? lol Do not argue with someone who has lived in these areas.[/quote]Yoruba of Togo

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[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7636931#msg7636931 date=1296444233]Yorubas are not in Togo. The Ewe are in Togo and Ghana. I lived in Ghana and I can say 100% that the Ewe are in the Volta Region of Ghana. Yorubas did not extend into Ghana. That was the realm of the Asante Confederacy[/quote]ezeuche there are indigenous yorubas in togo,.,.,.,.,., ewe or not some of them call themselves yorubas

it is just like calling a fulani in sudan that he is not fulani because he is in sudan

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595283.msg7636918#msg7636918 date=1296443882]awe, gbenu e soun jo. tell me, what is the diff b/w you and ifele?
you northerner that plans on killing yoruba peeps. your okoro blood is showing.[/quote]us kill yorubas,. no no no we do not like killing anyone whether igbo, yoruba or even ijaw

it is thugs that are destroying our names


we are peaceful people

there a lot of yorubas in kano, sokoto and kaduna,.,.,. some have been living there from 1970's and they have had no problem

i have an igbo neighbour that has been there for 10 yrs now in borno and he is still there happy with no one bothering him.

i will never kill anyone because he is a southerner, that is not in our nature

would i say yorubas are evil when they were killing northerners in alausa then and i was in lagos,.,. certainly not

all in all, yorubas need to protect themselves

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595283.msg7636902#msg7636902 date=1296443412]s'ori e pe sha?[/quote]ta bi this one the craze

abeg co mot there jo

back to sender on what ever you put in that yoruba gerishe

PhysicsMHD:
I forgot nothing about Igbos being warriors. That doesn't factor into what the attitude is of the man who an Igbo is coming to beg for land is. What matters is the man giving away the land's  pride, sense of history, natural aggressiveness, and other characteristics. Conquering warrior cannibal ancestry suggests non-pushovers. Conquering the land after coming from the northeast suggests not allowing it to be coopted by foreign elements. You're already thinking in an aggressive  military confrontational style which is a social, political and diplomatic weakness. You should be worrying about things like deference, courtesy, propriety, assimilation ability, etc, if you're going to go live in another man's land.




So? The richest man in Cameroon is an Igbo. One of the Nigerien ambassadors or government ministers is an Igbo. Why haven't you suggested colonizing these places? They're not fully occupied. Hausas in Ghana aren't like those in Nigeria afterall, so why not try the desert (Niger)?

What does this have to do with setting up multiple cities or a colony in another country in 2011? If Igbos in Cameroon are not being strangulated by the cage of Cameroon's politics like Igbos in Nigeria are, why not just go to Cameroon en masse? It's closer, even.


By the way, Yorubas are indigenous to Togo, though their indigenous presence attracted some later migrants.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ric6OhxbCS0C&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=yorubas+ketu&source=bl&ots=t9dgcxcbTs&sig=CdbV-hNr2z2Qp119cY6Pn_GE6eM&hl=en&ei=CSZGTae6H4jdgQeir_H9AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=togo&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=oKXrAAAAIAAJ&q=yorubas+in+togo&dq=yorubas+in+togo&hl=en&ei=liVGTb3_CcvSgQel4cHqAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBw   (p. 58 at the bottom)


Yorubas are accepted as Togolese and there is nothing the other groups can do unless they redraw the borders that the colonials chose to draw which threw Yorubas into Togo.

so yorubas are in benin and togo what about ghana,.,. can you tell me if they are in ghana as well

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595283.msg7636890#msg7636890 date=1296443053]smh. save it![/quote]haba wifey no be like that na

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=595370.msg7636867#msg7636867 date=1296442504]Was that post directed at me? But if it was, you know Francisco Macías Nguema was a madman. That man killed a lot of people. Especially the Bubi people who once numbered 3 million people have been reduced to 100,000!   [/quote]

Thank Allah we do not have sure in nigeria

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595283.msg7636868#msg7636868 date=1296442506][/quote]my ileke-idi, why are you angry na

wetin i do you,.,.,.,.,.,.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595283.msg7636814#msg7636814 date=1296441274] ewo n'iwo n so?[/quote]ileke-idi if you think he is yoruba then you are mistaking

he is igbo look at his previous threads and post

kcjazz:
I really think Obiagu1 is from Fang, Gabon  

if he is , then praise be to Allah,, ,.,., this will make negotiation and our migration easier  to gabon