TenQ:
In good faith I am writing this hoping that we can at least relate as friends intellectually.
I Appreciate your time used to pen this!


My Observation :
I think that it is actually safe to say that few Muslims believe directly the words of Allah but rather, your beliefs is hinged on the consensus of your scholars.

The only reason you accuse me if ignorance is because I read the words of Allah according to how he has said it rather than the way you modern Muslims would want everyone to see it.

How do you Muslims read and interpret the Bible? Do you just accept what we tell you or what our scripture is perceived by you to say!?





You have tried your best to explain the words Ahad and Tafsirs: then you threw in 1 John 5:7-8 to explain away the Trinity and I laugh! I wouldn't want to argue anything on this as it will lead no where. Of course, Waheed is strictly ONE but not Ahad and Ahad could also imply UNITY (but, let's leave this for now)
However, you don't even understand what Trinity is : this is probably the misconception of your prophet in the Qur'an.

I wish you can respond to these questions :
1. According to Allah in the Qur'an, what is Trinity?
2. How do you think Trinity violates the Oneness of God?



Is it true that the phrase " Peace be unto those who follow the guidance!" mean "Peace only to Muslims!?" Please wish me peace to o!!
LOL!

The Qur'an is supposed to be the eternal words of Allah suitable for ALL generations of mankind as guidance :
Unfortunately,
The Qur'an is thoroughly incomplete, this is why it cannot stand alone as the words of Allah? One needs to compare with Hadiths of your prophet (which I think should understand the Qur'an better) and Tafsirs (which usually contain disagreement with other scholars). The Tafsirs to me are " supposed answers to problems created in the Qur'an" which usually is not even a unified concensus. Thus, a Muslim will only take what appeals to them from these exegesis and Reject whatever they don't like.

I honestly think that you Muslims lack comprehension either of your Qur'an or of the Bible because
1. You don't ask questions and you just memorise
2. Even when you ask questions, all you care about is the concensus of your scholars rather than the truth
3. You always use Strawman arguments against Christians

I wish you help me answer these following questions you skipped before
In addition to the first two questions above :
3. Is it untrue that in Islam you also have the concept of Trinity (which you deny) but you are roped in the doctrine of Duality?
4. Taoheed is a flawed doctrine unfortunately because you won't ask questions, how can you know?
5. Finally, let's assume that the Christians have missed it and are led astray, what is the Offence of the Jews?
6. Is it untrue that Allah directs of to worship him and the Messiah as God?

After all I've explained to u, u still believe that "Ahad" is "one of" and "Tafsir" is based on consensus of the scholars and not Ahadith?. Ur "knowledgelessness" is beyond redemption. I've already given up on u. Allowing u to keep swimming in the pool of ur ignorance would serve u better.

- Imam Al-Khalil Al-Farahidi, one of the 'fathers'
of Arabic grammar and the teacher of Imam al-Sibawaih said:

"There are 4 types of men:

1. A man who knows and knows that he knows, he is a scholar so ask him.

2. A man who knows and doesn't know that he
knows, he is heedless [of his duty to teach or speak] so bring it to his attention.

3. A man who doesn't know and knows that he
doesn't know, he is ignorant so teach him.

4. A man who doesn't know and doesn't know that he doesn't know, he is a fool so stay away from him."

I thought u belong to the 3rd category (an ignorant person who should be taught), I never knew that u are already swimming in the 4th category. Level-headed individuals like us are advised to stay away from people like u. So, I'm walking away!.


Goodbye!

TenQ:

The grammatical problem is big:
It is obvious from the Qur'an 17:8 verse that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR" within the same sentence.

It is either a mistake!
Or a Slip of tongue by Allah!
or bad editing by Mohammed!

Lol, like I say, all ur comments reeks of ignorance. If no be ignoramus wey u be, who uses English grammar and Sentence structure of English to judge classical Arabic? What's wrong in English grammar is right in Arabic grammar. The grammar and choice of words of Modern Standard Arabic, and Colloquial or Daily Arabic and its grammar are different from the Quranic or Classical Arabic. In fact, Quranic or Classical Arabic predates "Arabic grammar", so u can't use Arabic grammar to judge or correct Quranic grammar or the choice of words, much less English grammar.

Secondly, the text u quote is a rough translation of the word of God, not its true representation or the word of God exactly. So, are u using the rough translation of a Quranic verse in written in English to judge and point out grammar errors of a Book written in old or classical Arabic? Do u know Nahwul Arabiy (Arabic grammar)? Do u know Tafsir (Quran exegesis)?.

TenQ:

I told you that I almost recited the shahada (thanks to Ahmed Deedat) and I got myself a copy of the Glorious Qur'an. It was the Qur'an that stopped me from reciting the shahada and to go deeper in knowledge.
So, I am not using any Arab Kafir books. Knowledge is available to anyone who asks questions for he would be filled.


My ignorance acn easily be exposed through two means
1. How many times did the Word Ahad appear in the Qur'an?
Can you explain how many times Ahad is translated as ONE?
eg.
Quran 4.152, Quran 8.7, Quran 9.6, Qur'an 33:40 with the exception of Qur'an 112:1
2. Can you help me translate these secular sentences into Arabic
1. One of the students received a bravery award.
2. One of the friends gave me a beautiful gift.
3. We celebrate the birthday of one of the relatives.
4. Except you give one of us the book, you are in trouble

Is it untrue that in normal use Ahad is not ONE!
Is it untrue that Waheed is ONE!

Unfortunately your prophet was copying the Jewish Shema
(Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad(Ahad in Arabic)
Translation: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One."

The word Echad is the same used in marriage the two of them become one

Gen 2:24:
"This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife in such a way that the two become one person."

Ahad or Echad makes sense in the light of the Trinity!


Do you think Allah is eloquent in speech and grammar?

Do you believe in this word of Allah or you think Allah doesn't mean what he is saying?
Qur'an 19:97
So We have made this (Qur'an) easy in your tongue that you may give good news to those who take heed, and warn the people who are contentious.

So, why do you need multiplicity of Tafsirs written by human beings who are not even prophets to understand what Allah is saying?

Do you think it makes sense to abandon the plain words of Allah in Arabic and go with the texts of people not called as prophets!?
This is the same accusation Allah gives to the Jews who use their hands to write and call it word of Allah (scripture)

Qur'an 2:79
Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.

Aren't you guilty of the same offence of the Jews with their multiplicity of Talmuds!?


I wasn't specially trained anywhere. And if I was, it was thanks to Ahmed Deedat and much later Zakir Naik.
I repeat :
When you ask questions, the Truth will come to you.


Speaking about the Jews,
This was why Jesus corrected them of their understanding of the scripture. If they had perfect understanding of God, there would have been no need for Jesus to correct them.

I ask you again:
1. Why do you Muslims insist on not using the definition Allah gives for Trinity in the Quran: are you wiser than Allah?
How did Allah define the Trinity in the Quran?
2. Is it untrue that in Islam you also have the concept of Trinity (which you deny) but you are roped in the doctrine of Duality?
3. Taoheed is a flawed doctrine unfortunately because you won't ask questions, how can you know?
4. Finally, let's assume that the Christians have missed it and are led astray, what is the Offence of the Jews?
5. Is it untrue that Allah directs of to worship him and the Messiah as God?


I will be glad if you can answer especially these last five questions

Thank you so much.
As-salamu alaykum

Lol, sorry to say this, but this is the first time I've seen somebody who's knowledgeable yet an ignorant. You're like a child who eat food (learned) but he's still malnourished (ignorant). That's because he eats only carbohydrates rich foods (learned from questionable sources), zero protein, vitamins and minerals (not from legit source).
U have knowledge, no doubt but u lack "comprehension" and "application". U don't understand what u "know" and u can't apply it in an appropriate way, rather u apply it to suite ur selfish interest. It's a pity that u are a pastor preaching what u know but u do not understand what u know and u believe u do.
Quran is not a Book u read and deduce ur own meanings out of it to suite ur personal interest.

I asked u to give me the meaning of "Ahad" according to the leading Arabic dictionaries such as Lisanul-Arab etc and you're giving me the meaning of "Ahad" in a sentence. You're even using the word "Ahad" to prove trinity?. U need deliverance from ignorance. That's why Allah referred to u (the contemporary Christians) in Quran 1:7 as Addoleen (those who have gone astray).
U in particular have gone too far astray, and I doubt if u can ever hear the call of a caller. So even if I answer all ur questions, u will never be satisfied. Because the answers to the questions u posed are mostly "close ended". If I gave u other answers contrary to ur expectations u will counter them out of ignorance. So it's better I leave u to keep swimming in the pool of ur ignorance.

Ahad - Meaning
Meanwhile, I think it's good I explain (the words) "Ahad" and "Tafsir" to u perhaps u will understand. It won't be good if u take this ignorance to ur grave.
"Ahad" means "one" and not "one of". In Arabic, the word "Ahad" and "Wahid" are synonymous, Allah use them interchangeably.
Allah says:
1. "And your god is (wahid) one God. There is no deity [worthy of worship] except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful". (Qur'an 2:163)
2. Say, He is Allah, [who is] one (Ahad). (Quran 112:1)

In Suratul Yusuf (Quran 12:4), Joseph was reported to have said to his father: "...Inni ra'aitu Ahad Asharah Qauqaban wash-shamsu..." ...Indeed I dreamt of Ahad Asharah (eleven) stars, and the sun, and the moon—I saw them prostrating to me!”
In this verse, eleven is Ahad Asharah. It literally means [one (and) ten]= 11 (eleven).

The word "Ahad" has the same meaning with the word "One" in English, it doesn't mean "one of". But if u add "of" to "one" its no longer one word but a phrase. Similarly, in all the examples u gave, a noun followed the word "Ahad" which modified or changed it to mean "One of". That means that the word "Ahad" itself doesn't mean "One of" except if followed by another noun. E.g Ahadu Asdiqah, Ahadut-tullab etc (one of the friends, one of the students). Aside these examples, the word "Ahad" on it's own literally means "One" just like "Wahid".
So, if trinity is true, the Quran and Torah (Quran 112:1) and (Deuteronomy 6:4) Respectively would read:
1. Qul huwallahu "Ahad" ilah. Say, He is Allah, [who is] One (of the Gods)
2. Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad Elah! “Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is one (of the Gods)!

Now, u can see that u have been deceived by the books written by the orientalists and Kafirs trying to justify trinity. The trinity was an interpolation in the New testament. It was as a result of mistake and misinterpretation of the Bible. The origin of this misconception is from
1 John 5:7-8
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. New King James Version (NKJV).
This verse was thrown out of the Bible in some versions. Jehovah's witnesses do not believe in Trinity either, they believe it's a interpolation. While those Christians who believe in Trinity go as far as using other verses to justify it, just as you're trying to prove it using Qur'an and Torah.

Meaning of Tafsir
Tafsir on the other hand, is the Quran exegeses. [b]It's the "compilation" of the authentic sayings (Ahadith) of the prophet, similar verses, historical background etc concerning a particular verse of the Quran about its interpretations according to prophet, causes of its revelation, when, where and how it was revealed, in order to understand the real and true context of the verse. [/b]One of the best compilation on Tafsir is Tafsir ibn Kathir. So, it's different from the Thalmud because it's a compilation from existing texts of Sihaus-sita etc.
Lol, it's surprising to see u quoting and interpreting the Quran, but u don't even know what "Tafsir" means. U said it was written by others. Do u even know the difference between makkan and madinan surahs (chapters). All ur write-ups reek of ignorance. U have been quoting and giving the Quran ur own interpretations. Regardless of the scripture you misinterprete whether Hindu scripture or Quran, it's wrong to say something of which u know nothing about. U need to seek forgiveness from God for misinterpreting His words.

The English translations of the Quran u read and give ur own interpretations are mere translations, they do not represent or convey the true meaning of the Qur'an. U need the Knowledge of "Tafsir" to interpret the Qur'an. Most verses of the Qur'an have a corresponding Hadith that explain it in details.
Some Muslim Scholars are like u, just because they can speak Arabic, they'll be reading and giving the Qur'an their own personal interpretations leading to different sects and promotion of terrorism.

For instance Allah says in Quran 9:5:
...fight and slay the the unbelievers/Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)."
This verse and many others are quoted out of context to instigate fight to kill Christians, Jews and other Non-muslims. In Tafsir, u will see Ahadith about its context, where, when and how it was revealed, the historical background etc. From there, u will understand that it's about a defensive war in a battlefield, it's not asking u to go kill the Christian, Jews etc. Muslims who are good in Arabic would read and apply these types of verses to encourage the killings of Christians and other Non-muslims because of one little misunderstanding, leading to lost of lives and other terrorism.
Muslims should be grateful to God that u didn't convert to Islam, because if u had converted, with the way u are quoting and misinterpreting Qur'an (in ur own way), u may be in the same level with Osāma bin Ladēn or Shikau. Ur type no go gree for anybody, if u don't know the corresponding Hadith that explains a particular verse, u will never admit it, u'll rather give ur own interpretations and claim that Allah inspire u to interpret it that way. I'm just wondering the kind of harm you're currently doing to Christianity in the name of interpreting the word of God. Imagine saying that "Echad" in the book of Deuteronomy means "One of".
In the midst of the one-eyed people (more ignorant than u), u may be their king (seem learned), but in midst of those with two eyes (more knowledgeable than u) u are blind (ignorant who lacks comprehension and application of the scripture).
May the almighty Allah, Alaha and Eloha (Yahweh) guide u to the right path, not the path of those who have earned His anger and not the path of those who have gone astray.



Peace be unto those who follow the guidance!

TenQ:

The Almighty Allah in the Quran seem to disagree totally with you or I guess you are the one disagreeing with Allah.



Allah says we Christians should worship Allah and the Messiah?
Don't you know this?

One can face a road and believe it will lead to Mecca, unfortunately beliefs doesn't hold water and is totally unreliable if it is not based on the truth. The Hindus believe that the COW is their mother, no amount of holding on to convert a lie into the truth.

The Truth sets free if you only can ask Questions sir!


1. What is the normal meaning of Ahad?
Does it not mean "One of..." or "One out of..)?
2. What is the normal meaning of Tawhid?
Does it not mean "unification of ..."?

Of course there is a redefinition by you Mulims that is not consistent with day to day use of the language.



You forget that no religion can get one into Paradise: Only God can!
It is not about divisions in your religion , it is about the truth.
Is it true that your prophet said that you Muslims would be divided into 73 sects and only one will enter paradise. Is this not terrible in itself?
Speaking of the Trinity: Why do you Muslims insist on even the definition Allah gives Trinity in the Quran: are you wiser than Allah?
Even though you also have (at least) DUALITY if not trinity in Islam, you wouldn't ask questions to learn the truth!?

What is Trinity?
How did Allah define the Trinity in the Quran?

It seems you don't comprehend the massive weakness of Tawhid (even if we use your preferred definition)

I wish you have great Peace and the Truth sir: only by asking questions will you find it!

I almost recited the shahada at a point in my life until I started asking questions!
Have a beautiful day!

It seems u studied all these lies from a book written by An Arab Kafir.
I studied Arabic to NCE level, so I'm familiar with their language and culture, and no where have I seen "Ahad" mean "one of...". And nor does the meaning of Tawheed means Unifying gods. Can u give the meaning of "Ahad" and "Tawheed" by famous and leading Arabic dictionaries such as Lisanul-Arab, Mu'jamut-Tullab etc?

U have been really brainwashed. U don't know that there's what we Call "Tafsir" (Quranic exegesis). It's like the Jewish "Talmud" where u can find the technical meanings of words and verses of the Quran. U don't just use literal meanings of words to interpret the word of God. Every verse from sacred scriptures has literal and technical meaning. Kafirs like u dwell on the literal meanings or quote out of context in order to confuse the gullible sheep. I could remember u calling my attention to a verse I misinterpreted, but here u are interpreting words and verses from the Quran based on hearsays not based on Tafsir. It's a pity that ur knowledge of Quran is completely wrong! U must have learnt all these from the orientalists, na dem they teach Islam in upside down manner. Everything u talked about Islam is wrong. I no even believe ur Biblical interpretations cos they're all based on ur personal opinions.

U sound like one of those who were specially trained to confuse Muslims by misquoting Quran and Ahadith of the Prohet. U wasted months to learn and master nonsense. Lol

Sorry to say this, but it's only Jews that know and (once) truly worshipped Yahweh. Everything about modern Christianity is "Romanized". You're indirectly worshipping a "Roman god" that is a 3 in one God but not Yahweh. Did Jews tell u that their God (Yahweh) is 3 in one God?
U only believed that you're worshipping Yahweh. Unfortunately ur belief doesn't hold water and is totally unreliable cos it's based on falsehood and doctrines made by men.


Peace!

TenQ:
Sorry for the lengthy response :
I wanted to touch almost everything you said sir:


No sir, there is no semblance between Huwa or Ya-Huwa to Yahweh sir.

Sunan Ibn Majah 3855
It was narrated from Asma' bint Yazid that :
the Messenger of Allah (saas) said: "The Greatest Name of Allah is in these two Verses: And your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God - Allah), La Ilaha Illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.' And at the beginning of Surah Al 'Imran."

La Ilaha Illa Huwa mean none has the right to be worshipped but He!

You can also compare it to your prophets hadith in
Sunan Abi Dawud 1493
Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) heard a man saying: O Allah, I ask Thee, I bear witness that there is no god but Thou, the One, He to Whom men repair, Who has not begotten, and has not been begotten, and to Whom no one is equal, and he said: You have supplicated Allah using His Greatest Name, when asked with this name He gives, and when supplicated by this name he answers.


I think you are overstretching Islam to accommodate Yahweh Sir and it is bothering on Taqqiya!


No sir!
Prophet Mohammed himself said that his parents are in hell for being mushriks: and he cannot even intercede for them.
You probably have not read this hadith
Sahih Muslim 203
Anas reported:
Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.

If they follow the Religion of Abraham, what are they both doing in hell


Let's assume the Christians have missed it, What is the Offence of the Jews?
Don't forget you Pray against us Christians five times a day that Allah should not make you like us

Then, You have quoted to bible verses completely wrongly sir.

Ps 84:4-7:
"Blessed are they that dwell in your house: they will be still praising you. Selah. Blessed is the man whose strength is in you; in whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also fills the pools. They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appears before God."

The "Valley of Baca" is a symbolic place. "Baca" is often interpreted as a dry or weeping place. The psalmist portrays those on the journey to God's presence turning the dry valley into a place of springs and pools, signifying transformation and blessings even in challenging circumstances.

If you disagree, explain the place of Zion in verse 7.

You quoted Isaiah 29:12
Isa 29:10-12:
"For the LORD has poured out on you the spirit of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers has he covered. And the vision of all is become to you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray you: and he said, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray you: and he said, I am not learned."

Who did the Lord pour out the spirit of deep sleep and closed his eyes?
Is it your prophet Mohammed?
For verse 12 refers to this same identity!


But it is a lie of satan to say that Mohammed cannot read.
Mohammed can both read and write sir.
What the Qur'an says is that Mohammed is unlearned in the scriptures (before him)!
I am surprised you don't know that sir!
If you need proof, I can give you sir!

Islam, Christianity and Judaism is NOT one religion sir! If it is, why would Allah use Christians and Jews as a ransome from Hell fire for you Muslims?


I appreciate your time to explain except that you seem to miss a lot of spiritual truths.
If I ask you this question, would you be able to answer it objectively

1. Out of Jesus and Mohammed, who do you think should be more qualified to intercede for any human being on earth?

2. Why do you think (according to Islamic teachings), that Jesus is the only human being
a. Who does not have a Father but have a mother
b. Who is both the Word of God and the Spirit from Him
c. Who is a Co-creator of LIFE (bird) with Allah
d. Who is bodily in heaven at this time 2000+ years ago?
e. Who knows what we hide in our rooms
Is he just a mere prophet?
What was Allah trying to achieve, because Allah has succeeded in converting almost 3 billion people to Christians with his action on the reason Allah sent Jesus to the earth.


I truly from my heart ask you to ask deep questions about the Messiah and His purpose upon the earth and you will see that He gives Eternal Life to ALL who will trust and follow Him.

John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

I don't believe. The saying that only your Messiah gives eternal life is a mere claim; it’s not necessarily true. Even though I believe we both read each other’s submissions with closed minds, to each his own beliefs. I believe that all Christians, including you, worship “Roman gods” and not Yahweh? I can prove it from the Bible, just like you misquoted Ahadith and verses from the Quran to paint truth as falsehood. What actually matters to me is “belief”. If you believe that you’re worshipping Roman deities, so be it. I believe I worship Allah/Yahweh, my creator, your creator, and the creator of the universe. The Creator knows what’s in our hearts. What we call who we worship doesn't matter, who we believe we are worshipping matters more.
God (our creator) will judge us individually according to our faith and deeds in the day of recompense.

You don’t know what you are talking about regarding the unification of Arab deities under one name as Allah. This is wrong. Where did you learn these absurdities from? You see similarities in both the Quran and the Torah, and you’re bent on condemning others that they’re worshipping Arab deities. Which Deity will confirm events mentioned in the Bible? You said Allah hates Jews? This is yet another claim from you. I don’t know where you learned all these from, but you have learned the wrong things.

I can’t follow a religion that doesn’t have a unified and unanimous concept of God. In Christianity, it’s either you believe Jesus is the God, your creator, or you believe he’s one of the three Gods, or he’s just a prophet and was sent by God. Jehovah’s witnesses do not believe in the trinity, which is an article of faith in other Christian denominations; they have their own version of the Bible. I would rather return to my root, “African traditional religion”, than to follow a set of confused individuals pretending to be worshipping Yahweh.


Salaam!

NairaLTQ:

What is your evidence that Jesus did not speak Hebrew but Aramaic?
Because Jesus spoke both Hebrew and Aramaic (I can prove it if you want)
But, can you prove your claim : Or, Is this another conjecture from you?

God is a TITLE (like President or Chairman) and not a name or Identity (Like Joe Biden or Ahmed Tinubu). Is the name of your Allah God!?

So, the title God in Aramaic or Hebrew or Arabic is Eloah, Elohim, Allah, etc. It means DEITY!

What is the name of the "Allah" of the Jews?
Yahweh!
What is the name of the "Allah" of the Christians ?
Yahweh!
What is the name of the "Allah" of the Muslims?
Allah




I ask you again :
Is Allah a Spirit?

Note : Yahweh is a Spirit!

You're wrong. The Aramaic word for "God" is Alaha or Elah which is similar to the Arabic "Allah" and Hebrew word for God Eloah/Elohim. See the word "Allah" in Wikipedia.

What is your evidence that Jesus did not speak Hebrew but Aramaic?
Just before Jesus died, He cried out in "Aramaic" as mentioned in the book of Matthew:
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” (Matthew 27:46)

In Hebrew, the saying would be " אֵלִי אֵלִי, לָמָה עֲזַבְתָּנִי‎" (ēlī ēlī, lāmā 'azabtānī in Biblical Hebrew, eli eli lama azavtani in Modern Hebrew pronunciation), while the Syriac-Aramaic phrase according to the Peshitta would be Syriac: ܐܝܠܝ ܐܝܠܝ ܠܡܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ, romanized: Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? (Matthew 27:46)

As u know, the Arabic word for God Almighty is Allah, "My God, My God" in Arabic is ilahi, ilahi. So Matthew 27:46 in Arabic would read: إلهي، إلهي لما تركتني. Romanized: ilahi, ilahi lima "taraqtani". Sounds similar right? That's because Arab and Jews are Family (through Abraham, Arab decended from Ishmael while Jews descended from Isaac), they share similar language and culture.

Allah says concerning Jews and Arabs and Abrahamic religion:
Verily, this nation (or People) of yours is one nation and I am your Lord, therefore worship Me" (Quran 21:92).
Arabs and Jews are one, they share same God (Yahweh), those among Arabs worshipping or bowing to other gods (i.e idols beside Yahweh) do so as a result of them being misguided and astray from the right path.

It is a misconception that Arabs worshipped an idol called "Allah". Arabs were family of Prophet Abraham who worshipped only one God (Allah or Yahweh). The religion and way of Abraham was corrupted later, leading to most Arabs worshipping idol as a way to convey their prayers to the supreme being (Yahweh) who as no image or idol through idols of people and saints (little gods) they believe can take their prayers to the most high God (The God of Abraham). That made them to start worshipping Baal, Laat, Huzzah, Manat etc. As mentioned in Quran.
Allah says:
Will ye call upon Baal and forsake the Best of Creators (Allah/Yahweh). Allah/Yahweh, your Lord and the Lord of your forefathers (Abraham, Noah etc)? (Quran 37:125)
Contrary to ur believe, this verse shows that Arabs were not worshipping Allah/Yahweh directly, but idols like Baal and other idols in place of Allah/Yahweh. They called these idols as their "A'liha" (their gods or deities)

The Arab idolators who made images and idols for God (Yahweh) justified their actions.
Allah says:
And those who take Auliyâ' (protectors and helpers) besides Him (Allah) say: "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh (Yahweh the Most high God) ." Verily, Allâh will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allâh guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever. (Qur'an 39:3)
The Arabs created their own gods, they worship and channel all their prayers to them, hoping that these "gods" will convey their prayers to the most high God (Yahweh), they believe their prayers cannot reach Yahweh except through intermediaries (small gods such as Baal, Laat etc).

Let me cite an example for u. Some Christians (especially Roman Catholics) which I'm sure not one of them, worship God through the image or idols of Jesus and his mother marry as deities as a way to reach out or communicate with Yahweh (The most high God). That was how many Arabs deviated from the old religion taught by Abraham and started worshipping idols.
Catholics have deviated from the teachings of the Bible that prohibits bowing for images of any god.
The Bible says:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me... (Exodus 20:4-5)

This deviation is as a result of the Roman cultural practices and influence on Christianity, they changed Sabbath day to Sunday (the day they worship their Sun god), Christmas to December etc. In many Years to come, if care is not taken, Majority of Christians will be like the Arabs, they'll be worshipping Yahweh through image of Jesus and His mother and if u asked they'll say, just like the Arabs say: "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Yahweh". Now can we say that Yahweh or Elohim or Alaha are idols worshipped by Christians? Same thing applicable to Allah, Allah is Yahweh, is teachings got interpolated and Arabs started worshipping idols. They filled the Kaaba (house of God) with their own created idols (graven images used in place of the Yahweh the God of Abraham).

Who is "Yahweh" in Islam?
It's true that there are 99 names of Allah mentioned in the Quran. The misconception is that the names of Allah are not restricted to 99 only. It only means there are 99 names of Allah captured in the Qur'an, but there are other names of Allah not mentioned in the Qur'an.
In addition, there's a hidden name of God in the Qur'an as discovered by the Sufists (Muslim mystics and ascetics) in the following Verses of the Qur'an chapter 59 verses 22-24:

22. "He" is Allah. There is no god but "He", the Knower of secrets and declarations. He is the Compassionate, the Merciful.

23. He is Allah; besides Whom there is no god; the Sovereign, the Holy, the Peace-Giver, the Faith-Giver, the Overseer, the Almighty, the Omnipotent, the Overwhelming. Glory be to Allah, beyond what they associate.

24. He is Allah; the Creator, the Maker, the Designer. His are the Most Beautiful Names. Whatever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him. He is the Majestic, the Wise.

Allah also says:
Say He is Allah the one... Quran 112:1

The Romanized version of the text of the first sentence of verse 22 is: Huwah Allah(u) ladhi la ilaha illa Huwah. Meaning:
"He" is Allah. There is no god but "He"

The name as seen Above is "Huwah" (or Hovah). The name was translated as "He" a pronoun used in place of Allah.
In Arabic, to call on God with this name, u need to add a prefix of "Ya" (or 'Je') to it, Allah becames "Ya-Allah" and Huwah becomes Ya-Huwah ( Jehovah, Yahweh as u may call it). In the case on Jehovah, Y in "Ya-Huwah" is replaced with "J" and "W" changed to V in some tribes. This is unknown to most Muslims.
The above verse: "He" (Huwah) is Allah. There is no god but "He" (Huwah). It's like saying: "Yahweh" is Allah, There is no god but "Yahweh". Similarly, Quran Chapter 112 verse 1: Qul "Huwah" Allah(u) A'had... Meaning, Say, He's Allah, the One (and only true God).
Same as saying; Say, Yahweh is Allah The one (and only true God). Suprise? That's because we're both following the same religion. But we think we're worshipping different God's. That's why Islam Christianity and Judaism are called Abrahamic religion (they're all from the same source; from Yahweh, Allah, Elohim and Alaha).

So, if u say Jehovah or Yahweh, most Muslims may think it's another God you're talking about, which is not true. This is as a result of language barrier and lack of proper understanding of the Scripture (Qur'an).

Ali, one of the companions of Prophet Muhammad also called on God (Allah) as Yahweh and Prophet recommended it saying that it's the greatest name of Allah:
According a tradition (Hadith) by the Shia Muslims, Imam Amir-ul-Mo'mineen Ali (p.b.u.h.) says: On the night before the battle of Badr I saw 'Khidr' (pious man of God mentioned in Quran) in my dream. I asked him to teach me something with which I would defeat the enemies. He told me: 'Say: Ya-huwah ya mân la ilaha illa "Huwah". The next morning I told the Messenger of Allah Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) what had happened, and he (p.b.u.h.) said: 'O Ali you have been taught the Greatest Name (of Allah) '. Thereafter, I repeatedly said the phrase in the battle of Badr.

Few Arabs during the time of Prophet Muhammad avoided worshipping idols. Prophet Muhammad's family are among the few families who still follow the religion of Abraham among the Quraysh tribe of Arab because of that they were made the custodians of Kaaba (baca), the House of God built by prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael.
The Bible says:
...As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools. They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.

Prophet Muhammad before Islam worshipped God (Yahweh) based on the old teachings of Prophet Abraham. He usually fast and go to mountain to pray and meditate, it was one of those visits to mount Sinai that Angel Gabriel appeared to him and commanded him "to read" (iqrah) and he said to the Angel that he's not learned (can't read) (Quran 96:1) . A prophesy mentioned in the Bible that a holy Book shall be delivered to him him who is not learned and say to him "read":

The Bible says:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (Isaiah 29:12 )

Islam, Christianity and Judaism are one religion. Any Muslim who worshipped another aside Yahweh mentioned in the Bible as gone astray. Our differences is that we worshipped Him in different ways. We're also divided as a result of man made doctrines and wrong interpretations of the word of God.
Jesus Christ said in the Bible:
And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9)
Majority of Christians have gone astray, as mentioned in Quran (The opening chapter 1:7) but they (the Christians) do not know.
Allah says in the Quran:
...If only the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) had faith (in Allah and follow Islam), it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors ( i.e making unto themselves graven images and following doctrines made by men). (Quran 3:110)

Christians keep seeing Muslims as unbelievers, unknown to them that Islam is the continuation of Judaism and Christianity. Islam and Muslims also have their own challenges, the Jihad has been misinterpreted by some scholars, they used it to lure Young Muslims into terrorism. I believe all these challenges are as a result of "end time", they're bound to happen, if u don't cause it others will. The prophesy must be fulfilled.

I'll stop here. I took my time to explain things to u because u sound like a person who truly wants to know the truth different from what u believed to be the truth and I hope this write-up clarified some misconceptions about "Allah" to u. Please, don't keep this info to ur self. Share with others.
Prophet Muhammad said:
The best among us are those who learnt the word of God and teach it to others.



Shalom!

NairaLTQ:
I am so sorry I've not been able to respond to this. There was a particular post that earned me almost three days of ban by the Nairaland spambots


Anyone can claim anything and it doesn't make it valid sir!
If I call myself the President of Nigeria, does it make it true and valid?
If Allah calls himself the God of Abraham, and Moses and Yahaya, it doesnt make it true because none of these people were on earth to prove or disprove it.

We all know that Allah was worshipped by the pre-islamic Arabs as their God and you will agree with me that Abdullah, the father of your prophet was not a believer yet his name mean "Servant of Allah". So, how can the Allah of Mohammed be the same God of Abraham?

The name of the God of Moses, David, Zachariah, Mary, Yahaya etc is Yahweh (YHWH).
Is Allah YHWH?
Do you Muslims worship Yahweh? ,
How come none of the 99 names of Allah is Yahweh?

The character of Yahweh in the Scripture of the Jews and Christians is completely different in nature from the Allah of Muhammad.

Can you please answer this Question:
Is Allah a Spirit?
Note: Yahweh is a Spirit!

K. Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. What is the word for "God" in Aramaic? And how do u say "My God! My God!!" in Aramaic.

Na Wah Ooo. See grammar; "navigating navigatress, intricate intricacy and delicate delicacy".
She for use Quillbot or Bing AI to "humanize" the write-up generated by ChatGPT for her.

TenQ:
Are you annoyed that you can't answer simple questions about Qur'an 17:8!?

Who is this "their Lord" of the Jews: Is it Allah?



Unfortunately, Allah and your prophet seem to disagree with you with respect to us Christians

1. Allah says that Christians (the same one who believed in Trinity at the time of Mohammed) would go to paradise


Qur'an 2.62
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

2. Secondly, just as in Qur'an 17:8, who is the "Their Lord" in Qur'an 2:26?

Allah in the Qur'an spoke of the Lord of the Jews, the Lord of the Christians, the Lord of the Sabians and the Lord of whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, as going to have their reward presumably in paradise.

3. Thirdly: In Qur'an 17:8, who is the Lord of the Jews for obviously if it is Allah then Qur'an 17:8 should be written as

Qur'an 17:8
It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

Stop deceiving urself. Allah is the same as Jehovah the God of Abraham, Moses and other prophets. That's why Islam, Christianity and Judaism are called Abrahamic religion.

Allah used "I", "We" and "Ur Lord" interchangeably in the Quran.
Allah says in the Quran:
In the Torah We prescribed for them a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, an equal wound for a wound: if anyone forgoes this out of charity, it will serve as atonement for his bad deeds. Those who do not judge according to what God has revealed are doing grave wrong. [Quran 5:45, Abdul Haleem Translation]

Allah described Himself as:
"The Lord of Moses and Aaron". [Quran 7:122]

He also referred to Abraham as His faithful and obedient servant:

And remember Our Servants, Ibrahim (Abraham), Ishaque (Isaac), and Ya'qub (Jacob), (all) owners of strength (in worshipping Us) and (also) of religious understanding. [Quran 38:45]

Surely Ibrahim (Abraham) was an exemplar, obedient to Allah, upright, and he was not of the polytheists. [Quran 16:120]

Then We revealed to you (Muhammad): Follow the faith of Ibrahim (Abraham), the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists. [Quran 16:123]


Shalom!

Welcome to the United States of Americrash.

blaise26abj:


Then I think access to the Islam section should be locked to each account’s religion . If you are not a Muslim , you can’t see the Muslim section and vice versa . Same way if you are not logged in , you can’t access the sexuality session .

Good idea. But what I'm trying to point out is the hipocrisy among Nairalanders.

This fish is sold between N250-N300 in Zaria, Kaduna State.

Audio probing. Once dem see better money, dem go quickly sweep the matter under the carpet.

wonder233:
A subhuman just responded as expected. And as predicted, he (abi it) has no cogent justification for the practise, other than insults and "culture".

Now I understand! Ur father didn't pay bride price on ur mother that's why paying bride price doesn't make any sense to u.
But ur father paid ur mother N50,000 for one-night-stand na, is that a good culture to u?
Why is bride price ur problem? Why are u not criticizing the amount ur father paid for one-night-stand with ur mother? Since u believe sex and cohabitation should be free. But honestly, ur father was duped for paying N50,000 for one-night-stand with ur mother and still end up with a Dumbo like u as a son.

Don't let me give u high blood pressure Ooo. Continue to mention me if u need full history about ur useless self. But hope u won't collapse before I finish telling the history?

wonder233:
Blacks! There is no price on a human being - whether literal or figurative. Marriage is simply the verbal declaration of intent by two adults that have come of age that they want to spend their lives together in the presence of witnesses. Simple!.

Subhumans will come under this mention and start frothing in the mouth about how dare you talk against their sacred brideprice. But ask a Nigerian or a black African what brideprice really means and how it came about, he has nothing to say other than hurl shallow emotive invectives about tradition..

Nonsense!
Just because u did a four year degree course at the university to memorize useless stuff in English language doesn't mean that ur culture is useless. U use Education to modify and adjust ur cultural practices (just like Och’Idoma has done), u don't use Education to condemn ur culture totally.

You're not making any sense. You're willing to pay an olosho or hookup girls (who have nothing to offer u) N50,000 for one-night-stand, but u can't pay N50,000 to marry a decent lady who will be more useful to u beyond sex. The former will spend a night with u and the later will spend the rest of her life with u. Now u can see that no amount of money (bride price) can pay her for the number of days she will be spending with u for the rest of her life.
U still think you're "Educated" with this stupid mentality of urs?

lexy2014:


can you show me the argument you are referring to?

when did questions become argument?

you have not answered the following questions:

1.is this optimism or pessimism?

2. how were you quoted out of context?

3. who are "we" that should not give up on generating revenue?

4. what are some the roads and projects that were built with the money?

5. how much was generated and how much was used for the roads and projects?

You're very good at asking questions but very poor in comprehension. I'm afraid, I can't keep up with u. Please don't be angry if I am unable to reply ur next mention. Nevertheless, I look forward to having a better conversation with u next time.


Peace!

lexy2014:




is this optimism or pessimism?

how were you quoted out of context?

who are "we" that should not give up on generating revenue?

what are some the roads and projects that were built with the money?

how much was generated and how much was used for the roads and projects?

U argue with a closed mind that's why u quote people out of context. The statement u quoted was incomplete. The following is the omitted part of the statement: ...Similarly, our generated revenue may not be fully used as intended. But it will definitely make a difference, however small.

lexy2014:


how does that answer this question....what has what he said got to do with being a pessimist or otherwise?

Read: "...That is why we should not give up on generating revenue out of fear that it may not benefit the masses".

lexy2014:


I thought u were calling some one a pessimist?

who are "we" that should not give up on generating revenue?

what are some the roads and projects that were built with the money?

how much was generated and how much was used for the roads and projects?

Kai! If I know, I for no answer u. See the way u quote me out of context. You're an unrepentant pessimist.

lexy2014:


what has what he said got to do with being a pessimist or otherwise?

since you are optimist, can you tell us what has been done with all the revenue remitted?

These agencies contribute little or nothing to the federal government's coffers. They are more of a burden than a benefit. The government provides 90% of their funding, which they often waste due to corruption. The government wants to turn them into assets for our country.
Now is the time for them to take charge of their own funding and be accountable for their spending.

The previous government may have mismanaged the revenue it generated, but that does not mean the current government should neglect revenue generation.
Nigeria earned a lot of money from crude oil during former president Jonathan's tenure. However, the money was not used wisely because of the high level of corruption in the country. Still, we can see some of the roads and projects that were built with the money. Similarly, our generated revenue may not be fully used as intended. But it will definitely make a difference, however small. That is why we should not give up on generating revenue out of fear that it may not benefit the masses.

lexy2014:


what has what he said got to do with being a pessimist or otherwise?

since you are optimist, can you tell us what has been done with all the revenue remitted?

Another pessimist sighted.

tiswell:
We never see the effects of the ones remitted already.


Just dey loot dey go

Pessimist sighted. Me too, I never see the benefits of u being a Nigerian.

D is the answer.
Who dash 'A' (monkey) Banana? Being man of the year is not by visiting people or correctional centres to give them 5 million from ur looted money, it's about accomplishments.
Pandôra Obi is the new version of Buhari. Northerners packaged Buhari for us as a saint and honest man, we thought America will envy Nigeria if Buhari is made the president of Nigeria. After Buhari's eight years in office, instead of America to envy us, dem dey pity us instead because of the level us sufferness in the country. The same way them package Buhari, Southeasterners are packaging their own Buhari (Pandôra Obi) for us.

Savedday2:
Women are just bunch of waste and wickedness, it beat my imagination, how someone will waste his hard earn money on something as useless as a woman.

Please I beg you my fellow guys, don't marry them . Only use and dump them. That's the only way to handle 9ja girls.

The way ur father used and dumped ur mother? U are not ok. U need help.

freemanq:
Power sector in Nigeria is heard by demonic forces

... held by...

LONEWOLFJOHN:
ogun pai your papa and prostitute mama. I talk to you bastard

Bastard? Na wetin ur grandfather call u be that when ur father born u through one-night-stand na. Abi u don do change of name?

Lol, I didn't mean to offend u Ooo. I just want u to see and feel it urself before u decide whether u want others to say these things to ur children. E no suppose pain u if e good say make humans no dey marry again.

Marriage makes our sexual relationships more organized as humans, without marriage there will be no difference between ur mother and ur she-goat that got pregnant from a random goat. Without marriage, humans will live like animals (jump on any woman, get her pregnant, ur child will equally jump on any random woman and get her pregnant, ur grandchildren will do the same etc). Is that what u want for urself and ur children and grandchildren? Is that how u want ur lineage to be known? Disorganized family without one good and responsible member?

LONEWOLFJOHN:
I tell you, only if younger generation can run for Thier dear life and avoid woman marriage scam.

Ur father no marry ur mother before she gave birth to u, so I don't expect u and ur ilks to know the benefit of marriage.
Na through one-night-stand dem born u and na through the same one-night-stand u go take born all ur children.

Surface2AirToto:
Men still dey marry? Na wahh ohh.

Yes, u no know because the person wey train u did a very bad job. U were trained to see women as sex objects. That person wey train u no try for u at all.