ollah1:


You skipped the first two paragraphs and counter the last with "I no nothing about the topic of dicsourse". Yes NK invaded first but USA is a bully. A big one at that

dude listen to yourself.! so NK should be allowed to wipe out SK because US is a bully?! does that line of reasoning make any sense to you?
Imagine the way you changed goalposts first you said US would''ve destroyed NK if China had not stopped them as if the US instigated that war when I pointed out your lie or ignorance you came up with US is a bully line. Guess what I would pick a bully over a psychopath any day any time

Emzyme:



Bro have u been to Russia before
No deh talk based on Wetin u hear

ask anybody weh dey Russia. You think say na beans say Nigerians no dey rush go there. Abi u tink say na beans. For a black man russia is dangerous place

ollah1:


I believe you don't know whom you have this discourse with. If American leaders are held responsible for their actions, how come Bush jnr, snr, Hilary Clinton, Obama are all free despite ruining nations?

How is North Korea backward? How are they living in poverty?
MSM just have helped you a great deal to know loaded your head with lies upon lies. Bro start reading other sources for informations to be properly informed

Regarding NK and SK, thanks to China else USA would have ruined NK. But they can't anymore cos they are equally equipped albeit on a low level compared to them.

the last paragraph is totally wrong. Shows you know nothing about the topic of discuss here. After WW2 NK attacked SK the US wanted nothing with the war because they were just coming out of one. They'd to join the war when N K almost overran SK. If US leave SK this
by tomorrow NK will invade. Yes US has instigated war n several countries but they are a necessary balance.y

Emzyme:




I never intend going to the us
Russia is way more cheaper, easier and risk feee

Russia! Risk free! Are you kidding me?! Dude you must be a Martian.

gretblue:

My brother I have to pick up my dictionary and check the definition of " betray".

I tire for them

Moneytize:
How can they even say the NORTH betrayed him! Did the Northerners promise Jonathan anything in the first instance? They were even vocal about their dislike for him. He was just too dumb and corrupt minded to see his own nose not to talk of reading the body language of the people.

the thing just tire me. Even me as far back as 2013 knew it's not going to be easy but el clueLess does not and could not even when the northerners kept screaming they don't want him

Mr Eradiri said it all. I don't understand this 'North betraying' issue, I thought it's the West before, Una don Change music! Weh don.
It's an election people had freedom of choice. Jonathan was clueLess as usual. And he should just shut up and stop reminding us of his epic failure.

eyeview:
That's where my people are foolish.
You can never see a northern group berate their own leader like this even when their leaders have been in power for years with nothing to show in their region.
The north has controlled almost every facet since independence yet their people are predominantly ravaged by illiteracy, diseases, poverty, ignorance, hunger etc. By now their youths should be stoning them in public.


Meanwhile, this BMC goons are busy looking for perceived and imaginary enemies of Buhari and APC to tarnish. I will advise GEJ to hold his peace and watch God fight his enemies for him.

Mr Eradiri said it all. I don't understand this 'North betraying' issue, I thought it's the West before, Una don Change music! Weh don.
It's an election people had freedom of choice. Jonathan was clueLess as usual. And he should just shut up and stop reminding us of his epic failure.

apcisevil:

Confused abo..ki claiming sophisticated yoruba to always cause rift among the southerner, ... I wonder why southerner on NL haven't know you all are abo.ki claiming yorubas when it suits you and otherwise when it doesn't m..

The truth is that seun is doing business, and I know he might have been paid off, hence his bais on the actoboties on NL

the only thing you seem to know is how to taint every thread with your tribal sentiments. Grow up

So I Must accept this stu....ity to comment. Jeeezzzz. I hate this what kinda bein makes such arrangement.

What does it take for these communities to come together send emissary to other communities in other states draw an attack plan from like four communities close together. Attack en masse from each community same time and drive the marauders out. If in future there is an attack immediately under 24 hour let members of communities close by counter attack. If the government can't protect you protect yourself. Task yourselves and get protection. How much be gun?

DocHMD:


See as this one dey pour spit upandan because he wan do 'one nigeria' with Biafra.

Ask him who fired the first shot during war? he go dey mope like mupepe scarecrow.

lack of comprehension. The Mid West and SS declared their neutrality in the War meaning; when the Northern Army attacked they respected that stand and attacked the East through from the North and the West also refused to join the war. But the East in their wisdom decided to occupy the SS, invade the MW and attack the West. The people in these regions responded like any sane person would; they fought back and 50yrz later you runts are still crying. Man UP

LionDeLeo:


Abeg, I no fit shout.

1953 when Northern Nigerians were beginning to consider secession from the Nigerian colony that would soon be a nation, Nnamdi Azikiwe gave a speech before the caucus of his political party, the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) in Yaba, Nigeria on May 12, 1953. That speech, while not disallowing secession, suggested that there would be grave consequences if the Northern region became an independent nation.

I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

As one who was born in the North, I have a deep spiritual attachment to that part of the country, but it would be a capital political blunder if the North should break away from the South. The latter is in a better position to make rapid constitutional advance, so that if the North should become truncated from the South, it would benefit both Southerners and Northerners who are domiciled in the South more than their kith and kin who are domiciled in the North.

There are seven reasons for my holding to this view. Secession by the North may lead to internal political convulsion there when it is realized that militant nationalists and their organizations, like the NLPU, the Askianist Movement, and the Middle Zone League, have aspirations for self-government in 1956 identical with those of their Southern compatriots. It may lead to justifiable demands for the right of self-determination by non-Muslims, who form the majority of the population in the so-called ‘Pagan’ provinces, like Benue, Ilorin, Kabba, Niger and Plateau, not to mention the claims of non-Muslims who are domiciled in Adamawa and Bauchi Provinces.

It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the Last and West uneconomic for the North.

The North may be rich in mineral resources and certain cash crops, but that is no guarantee that it would be capable of growing sufficient food crops to enable it to feed its teeming millions, unlike the East and the West. Secession may create hardship for Easterners and Westerners who are domiciled in the North, since the price of food crops to be imported into the North from the South is bound to be very high and to cause an increase in the cost of living. Lastly, it will endanger the relations with their neighbours of millions of Northerners who are domiciled in the East and West and Easterners and Westerners who reside in the North.

You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

Nevertheless, if civil war should become inevitable at this stage of our progress as a nation, then security considerations must be borne in mind by those who are charged with the responsibility of government of the North and the South. Military forces and installations are fairly distributed in all the three regions; if that is not the case, any of the regions can obtain military aid from certain interested Powers. It means that we cannot preclude the possibility of alliance with certain countries.

You may ask me to agree that if the British left Nigeria to its fate, the Northerners would continue their uninterrupted march to the sea, as was prophesied six years ago? My reply is that such an empty threat is devoid of historical substance and that so far as I know, the Eastern Region has never been subjugated by any indigenous African invader. At the price of being accused of overconfidence, I will risk a prophecy and say that, other things being equal, the Easterners will defend themselves gallantly, if and when they are invaded.

Let me take this opportunity to warn those who are making a mountain out of the molehill of the constitutional crisis to be more restrained and constructive. The dissemination of lies abroad; the publishing of flamboyant headlines about secessionist plans, and the goading of empty-headed careerists with gaseous ideas about their own importance in tile scheme of things in the North is being overdone in certain quarters. I feel that these quarters must be held responsible for any breach between the North and South, which nature had indissolubly united in a political, social and economic marriage of convenience. In my personal opinion, there is no sense in the North breaking away or the East or the West breaking away; it would be better if all the regions would address themselves to the task of crystallizing common nationality, irrespective of the extraneous influences at work. What history has joined together let no man put asunder. But history is a strange mistress which can cause strange things to happen!

Sources:

Nnamdi Azikiwe, Zik: A Selection from the Speeches of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Governor-General of the Federation of Nigeria formerly President of the Nigerian Senate formerly Premier of the Eastern Region of Nigeria (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1961).

so did the west but the East forced this on us now they want to abandon ship mbanu we cannot take it. Amarabae, and biafranbushboy and any one shouting biafra and insulting others take note. The Iboz owe every Nigerian an apology. The Civil war happened people died, hey its war! Every strategy that reduce casualty on your side is welcomed. The East involved the midwest even after they declared their neutrality. The East tooktde war to their doors they lost loved ones but never blamed the east they moved on... Same with SS

fratermathy:
Oniovo Bantudra,

Mavor? Yanji ihwo r'Igbo vwo biko. Ihwo na morue mamor. Vwo mlo obor a ta rawansie? Biko, yanjia wo vi Biafra r'ayen.

Dont speak for other tribes in Delta State. No one gave us that right. Speak only for Urhobo-Isoko, our people.

All the so-called Delta Igbos are Igbos after all and have a right to join their kin in any movement or country.

My problem is with Igbos or iPob adding non Igboid tribes to their Biafra. Urhobo-Isoko was never part of the original Biafra. Even the so-called Delta Igbos were not part of Biafra. So I see no historical, cultural, linguistic or political basis by which Urhobo-Isoko should join the Igbo struggle when we have ours.

So far, I've never seen any Urhobo/Isoko person that even sympathises with the Biafran cause. UPU, the mother union of all Urhobo people, has asserted Urhobo's stand in the matter. We were never, are not and can never be Biafrans.


Biafra is an Igbo struggle and if they want to achieve it, they shouldn't play Lugard and add uninterested and unrelated people.

The Urhobos have more affinity with Edo & Yoruba than Igbo. On Nigeria we stand. In Nigeria we remain.

Our many issues shall be addressed one day and should there be need for secession, we have our own voice for that and are capable of having our own Urhobo country!


This thread is definitely not needed. Don't speak for other groups at all. Delta is diverse and acknowledge it.

And @Bridget95: Urhobo is the largest tribe in Delta State with a population of at least 2m. We occupy Delta Central and Delta South. We have settlements in Edo, Bayelsa and Ondo States. After Ijaw, we come next as the second most populous tribe in the South South.

Uckennety & others: Becareful of how you insult people's tribes. The Internet never forgets. Igbos have shown Urhobos nothing but hate and spite. And these are the same people who want us in their Biafra by force. Just because you are larger than us doesn't make you more important. Tribalism is what is affecting the bulk of Igbos today and as long as you guys let that hate fester, your lot will never change in the nation!

I still appreciate Igbos like Amarabae who are sensitive to minorities and use their words carefully. Amara, and others like you, I say Ndewo! Enemies should not be created where there are none. Urhobos and Igbos have been neighbours, peaceful ones at that, from time immemorial. We have never claimed to be the same people or share the same goals. Let us all respect that. These online miscreants and tribalistic bigots are actually doing more harm than good and creating enemies of neighbours!

correct!

EasternActivist:


And who is arguing that? How many years did it take the isrealites to migrate to the promise land?
How old did Eri lived?

Afonja Muslim better face your stupid koran.

you should tell us since you claim ancestral lineage.
Abi u no kno ur own history again? Let me ask how Long did Israel spend in Egypt? Let me give you a hand, Eri had been dead for more than a hundred years before Israel left Egypt just like Kohath, Ephraim, Manasseh etc

Kirigidi:

My guy, I have tried to correct this set of deluded Igbos severally that the source or origin of their much talked about "ERI" lies in "Ancient AKA Kingdom" [from which Benin Empire emerged] during the OGISO Dynasty. ERI [meaning "supernatural" or "spirit"] was a powerful and influential high priest in the kingdom of the Ogisos. But following the collapse of the Ogiso dynasty around 900AD and 1000AD, there was widespread chaos, lawlessness and anarchy, and many people fled the kingdom and settled in far away regions. Among the people who migrated out of Ancient AKA KINGDOM along with their households during that era were Eri [a high priest of Aka Kingdom] and the ancestors of the Urhobo-Isoko, Epie-Attissa, Egenni and the Ikwerre peoples. Eri was a great and popular high priest believed to have strong spiritual powers. Eri was so revered that he was later deified. And even up til today among the Edoid race, people still bears names that begins with ERI also pronounced EHI [Urhobo-Isoko pronounce it "ERI", while Bini and Ishall call "EHI"], signifying divinity or reference to maker of destiny. The name Eri is also often exclaimed to express surprises, just as one calls JESUS. In summary, Eri was a royal high priest to the Ogisos who left Udo the capital [near Benin] in about 900AD [following the fall of ancient Aka kingdom], crossed the River Niger into Igala land, and finally possibly settled in Aguleri/ Umuleri region of present Anambra State.

I tire for dem, u see one quotin me n talkin rubbish. Dey no juzt wan get sense

EasternActivist:


Now I know you are high on cheap weed...
For your mind Eri born Jacob / Isreal his grandfather abi

Afonja Muslim.

Its pathetic that a so called Muslim know more about the Bible. A confirmation of your lack of cerebral reason you are so easily brain washed. Did Jacob see Moses?

hardbody:


I am not exactly joining this furore but i want to correct one impression that you made namely that Israel keep their genealogy. That position was true until the Roman conquest of 70 AD (or was 637) when the Jews were either killed or taken captives. Their genealogical tree was also destroyed. Today, No living Jew can tell you he is from any of the twelve tribes and sustain that claim effectively.

As to whether Igbos are Jews or not, I am not able to argue either way.

Cheers

good thanks for the correction. Before the Romans Gad and Eri had been dead for thousands of years.

Amarabae:
What you know now as IGBOS is the coming together of two people. 1st is the aboriginals called ADAMAs who were bantus and migrated into Nigeria where they settled at Okigwe/Uturu axis, the second people are the ERI Migration from Israel, they fled during the islamic conquest of North Africa/Middle East, Israel tribes were scattered, Lemba people of Ethiopia have the israeli link.
Eri migration into West of Alkebula(now Africa) had them settled at North of Igboland via Omambala River.
The coming together, intermarriage, intertrading, Socialisation etc btw Eri and Adama gave rise to early Igbo settlements.
I will open a thread on this with history resources.

which Eri? Hope you know That Eri lived
more than 8000 years ago

Omambala99:
In AGULERI, they have the house of OBU GAD TEMPLE has survive thousands of years, which Eri himself built in remembrance of his father GAD son of Jacob. At OBU GAD you will see the onyx stone bearing the name of GAD written in acient hebrew. Rememeber onyx stone was given to isreal in the bible by moses, in Exedos 46.
At the OBU GAD temple, floor you will see a hebrew written in crowries, rememeber even soon pages of bible was written in cowries before in was translated.
At confluence of Eze and Omambala river you will see twelve onyx stones in the mouth of river, this represent twelve tribe of isreal.
Eri grave is still marked in AGULERI till date.
Visit AGULERI and see things for yourselves.

which Gad? which Eri? Hope you know That Eri lived more tdan 8000 years ago! Hope you know he'd have been dead when Israel left Egypt? Hope you know Eri didn't see Moses? Hope you know if Ibo people were cattle rearerz it would be more plausible? There are many holes in your claim remember Israel keep their genealogy.

The man who ruined Ojukwu's plan, saved his people from the murderous and traitorous biafran army. Samuel Ogbemudia the brave soldier RIP
You will never be forgotten many lived cause you fought.

OP, your grammar is enlightening.

Where is mynd44

myplaydiary:
Read again this time slowly...

dude you are a bigot. Damn imagine the trash you are writing up and down, just because those folks are speaking a different language from yours. Every man have the right to defend his life. Bigot

So all these building, roads industries and bridges were built by the ibos? Liar. Empty. Chest beater

Amarabae:
where are the sai baba noisemakers? they are slowly trying to sideline buhari and promote osibanjo with the help of the media.
atiku will be next.
they knew that buhari was not a competent candidate in 2015,yet out of hatred and bitterness, they were making noise with sai baba.
do these people think that everyone is gullible? Buhari is returning. he is still Nigeria president.

Madam the romance section suites you best. Don't understand why you IPOB apologists are the ones bringing tribalism into the issue. Abi na bad tin to zay perzon wey do well try?. Tot u wanted Buhari dead before but like yorubas have said those that want him dead will die before him.

eyinjuege:


That's not the fault of the company but the fault of your agent. The companies only outsource. 93K is definitely more then the minimum wage, so the fault is not the company's but the agents that are geeedy.

yes I agree but something needs to be done about it. Those guys are too greedy I tell you.

bigcil2:
What's your price can you meet the quantity demand

yes. have pm you

bigcil2:
Reopened

soybean delivered to Ibadan

This should be in the front page mynd44. You are needed. I had a discuss with a guy about very similar issue yesterday. Imagine being paid #20k monthly only to realize that the company pays your agent #93k for your service, the guy was so depressed. It's time we stop the exploitation. Mr snake loving MOD leave the snakes your Attention is needed

Anuoluwapo23:
Am telling u that is the painful part danced from 12 to 9 just get disqualified with nothing

sorry bae