[quote
author=Sal C]Sometimes I use to imagine if you read posts upside down.
Though you are the op of this thread, you are yet to disprove or prove
anything , just being tossed about and very inconsistent. The only one
you try to prove, your fellow protestant disagreed with it and you turn
around to vent your annoyance on me. Lol you guys should reach a
consensus and get back to us.[/quote]my dear if u dn't knw wht sin nt unto death means den tel m ur own opinion and nt giving us example of blablabla. Wht is sin nt un2 death?

[quote
author=italo]

You are not making any sensible points; you're just going about spewing
emotional knee-jerk reactions.

You already decided that nothing can convince you. Would you then allow
us talk to people who seek truth with an open mind, thank you.[/quote] my dear is only a pagan dat u cn convince abt dis purgatory n nt a christian.

italo:

Why then did you open the thread when you knew before hand that all our words would fall on deaf ears?

I opened it to clear my view, So i dn't knw abt yours.

italo:

Where did I say white lie is not a sin?

u said white lie is nt a sin unto death. y revel 21v8 said al liar shal hav there part in d lake which burneth wif fire n brimstone which is d 2nd death.

Syncan:

Amii, in a sense yes. 1Pet3:19. If you are in doubt just ask me first before coming to the public dearie.

ok tel me hw moses entered purgatory b4 enterin heaven cos i can't find dat in ur bible quotatn.

[quote
author=stankezzy]appostle john dat wrote revilation talked about
heaven.he mentioned GOD,JESUS,24ELDERS,THE LIVING CREATURES,ANGELS,ND
SAINTS.he did not mention or see mary interceeding any where.so u people
want to tell us dt mary is included in d devine order.wen jesus,his
broders nd parents went to feast,while dey were returning Jesus did nt
return with dem so he was told dt his mother nd brothers were looking
for him,what did he answer? that his mother nd brothers are these men
with him dt listens to him.does it mean dt they were nt listenning to
him?how many times were his brothers nd sisters mentioned in d bibble!
do u know dt before d feast dt ,d brothers told him dt somebody dt
performs dis type of tin u are performing is suppose to go to where
people will be seeing him perform .so dey took him as a performer/an
entertainer.if his broders nd sisters were important to salvation dey
would have been mentioned many times.the bibble did nt mention where his
brodas nd parents repented,where they prayed or where they were prayed
for.do u know dt dere is no automatic qualificatin in heaven,be u his
parents or brodas dt it is according to ones work.[/quote]tel dat to catholic pple in d forum n nt me.

[quote
author=Sal C]Your fellow protestant Kingk disagree with this, when you
guys agree on whether the sin not unto death is the one confessed and
forsaken or not, come back and tell us.

How will one be arguing with people who don't even know their
stand.[/quote] if u dn't knw ur stand i knws mine. sin which are nt unto death are d ones which u hav confess to God n has been 4given stp going roundabt.

woky: Amara jst open thead run.

I tire for that gal

my dear i stil dy, do u expect me to chat 4 midnight moreova i hav said my view

[quote
author=italo]

Lol...

My dear friend, every devout Catholic strives for heaven, not purgatory.

Every devout Catholic strives to do God's will for love of God, not for
what we can gain (heaven, material things, spiritual favours etc) or
lose (hell, spiritual losses, material losses etc).

Nobody has ever being taught that it's okay to relax and go to
purgatory.

However, we must preach what we know. Purgatory exists and we must say
it.[/quote]if u believe purgatory exist dat means ur sittin on a long thing.

[quote
author=Charles noble] PLEASE PEOPLE DON'T ARGUE THIS, PURGATORY DO
EXIST, AND ITS A PLACE WHEREBY,U WILL SURFER FOR YOUR SINS BEFORE U CAN
GO INTO HEAVEN, THE PLACE IS STILL LIKE HELL,THE FIRE IN THERE WILL
PURIFY U 4RM SINS, BT NO ONE KNOWS HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE U IN
THERE![/quote]kwakwakwakwakwa i cn't stp laughn, if there is purgatory no i tink there is no need of hell fire.

italo:

That's sin not unto death.

Example of sin unto death is murder.

Ha, so white lie is no sin. When d bible said al unrightoeusnz is sin. Pls read ur bible revel 21v8.

italo:

Read 1 Cor 3:15

Tell me where people suffer loss, yet are saved as through fire.

Heaven or hell?

Note: we know that no one suffers loss in heaven and no one is saved in hell.

So where is that verse talking about?

the bible said we shld do d wil of God n prosper. Thro doing d wil of God on earth u we suffer loss n percautn, yet u wil be saved in heaven. Bible said our God is a merciful God n also consuming fire.

[quote
author=vatuso]amara if u r askin for better undastndin or for knowledge
u wldnt hv taken a side in ur comment cos frm ur comment,u r just been
skeptical.u dont wnt to give rum for d explanation n yet u ask.well
givin u link to undastnd,try n honestly answer those 3 questions put to u
by Italo. but if u need a full lecture on purgatory mail me on
vatuso@yah
oo.com or call me on 08037966684 frm nw till next
3wksamara if u r askin for better undastndin or for
knowledge u wldnt hv taken a side in ur comment cos frm ur comment,u r
just been skeptical.u dont wnt to give rum for d explanation n yet u
ask.well givin u link to undastnd,try n honestly answer those 3
questions put to u by Italo. but if u need a full lecture on purgatory
mail me on vatuso@yah
oo.com or call me on 08037966684 frm nw till next 3wksamara if u
r askin for better undastndin or for knowledge u wldnt hv taken a side
in ur comment cos frm ur comment,u r just been skeptical.u dont wnt to
give rum for d explanation n yet u ask.well givin u link to undastnd,try
n honestly answer those 3 questions put to u by Italo. but if u need a
full lecture on purgatory mail me on vatuso@yah
oo.com or call me on 08037966684 frm nw till next 3wks[/quote]y shld i mail or call u, notin lyk purgatory u can't convience or confuse me.

Sal C: Give us an example of sin against the father, sin against the son, and sin against the Holy Spirit.

Go to 1john5v17A, 1cori6v9, revel 21v8.

[quote
author=Deha]
So,what happens after judgement?
Remember the Bible said that "NO SIN WILL GO UNPUNISHED"
Going by this statement,Moses couldnt have been in heaven then,cuz he
disobeyed God and therefore was made unpure..Remember Angel Michaels
dispute with the Devil? Remember the Devils contention? How do u think
Moses was sanctified?
"Nothing impure will enter the Kingdom of God" You think God was
joking when He said that? Use ur brain dear child!![/quote]use ur brain too, did moses enta purgatory b4 enterin heaven.

italo:

Yes, yes, dear friend. We Catholics believe that. But we have a question.

Q 1: How did the couple at the wedding in Cana get to the Father.

Our answer: Through Jesus.

Q 2: How did they get to Jesus?

Your answer? Through _ _ _ _. (Fill in the gaps)

Apart frm dis weddin at cana were else. Now catholic is from Mary to Jesus, Jesus to God. Instead of Jesus to God does it mean Jesus cn't hear ur prayers except mary tels him.

[quote
author=italo]

Purgatory is not for those with sins that lead to death.

Purgatory is for those whose sins do not lead to death.

1 John 5:16 - He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not
to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth
not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man
ask.

These people's sins dont lead to death but they need purgation to enter
heaven.

You need to first understand purgatory before you argue against
it.[/quote]stp quotn wit u dn't knw, 1john5v17 said all unrightoeusnez is sin,n there is a sin nt un2 death. sin which are nt 2 death are those one u confess n forsake.

italo:

In the world to come NEVER means another generation.

You see that you cannot handle truth.

In the world to come is surely the life after death.

Sins can neither be forgiven in heaven nor hell.

Only in purgatory!

What about 1 Cor 3:15?

Where is it talking about? Another generation?

my dear stp being decievd in d world 2 come means anoda generatn and nt purgatory. your 1cori3v15 has notin 2 do wif dis forum.

Sal C: Why open a thread with lies.

which one be lies, abeg if u no c anytin useful 4 d thread u live. nofin lyk purgatory.

italo:

Dry!



You failed to answer the questions I asked you.

Where is 1 Cor 3:15 talking about? Heaven or hell?

Where is it that sins are forgiven in the world to come as Jesus implied?

In d world to come mean anoda generation afta dis generation and nt purgatory. So ur bible quotatn did nt correspd wit purgatory. take it or live it notin lyk purgatory.

[quote
author=MEILYN] erm, but we've answered her question now. Watin they
vex you now . Yea the truth is bitter. [/quote] Al ur comment did nt even make an atom of sense atal both of u are just blabing.

MEILYN: its a her oo. Her name now. Amala. Lizard.

stp decievn n insultn urslf. al u said did nt even in any way relate to ur nonsense purgatory believe.

[quote
author=MEILYN] lol. Trust me. I wanted to answer her... Haha. Chaii
mobile phone is slow sha.... Your answer is better anyway... , didnt
see dis b4 i replied above.[/quote] Ur comment did nt in any way show an evidence to existence of purgatory,notin lyk purgatory. I knw say na dysame pple.

@obadiah777, Stp going roundabout to find a bible verse dat wil suit ur comment, if u dy hell me i dy earth. Notin lyk purgatory.

italo: 1
John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been
revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we
shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

We believe that Mary and the Saints are like him for they now see Him as
He is.

Amen amen!

follow the bible and not your believe.

Bible said is appointd un2 man 2 die once afta death judgement follows. Notin lyk after death purgatory follows.

[quote
author=obadiah777] purgatory is hell which is on earth. book of
ezekiel chapter 20 tells you africa ( which is called the wilderness in
the bible ) is purgatory for israel ( negros ). if you need further
proof that the wilderness is africa let me know, i will supply you with 3
verses from 3 books from the bible[/quote] wait are u tryn 2 say dat wen sum1 dies he wil go 2 purgatory and recieve punishmt b4 enterin heaven.

[quote
author=italo]

Why are you calling my question "yeye" question and getting
uncomfortable when I haven't even said whether there's purgatory or not?


The way you're already spitting fire over nothing, are you sure you are
here to know the truth...or are you just here to argue and curse?

You have answered that there's no forgiveness in heaven or hell. Thank
you.

Would you mind answering the other two, my sweetheart?


1. Does anyone suffer loss or pass through fire in heaven?

2. Is anyone saved in hell?[/quote] 1.no 2.no, den is dere purgatory or nt

woky: my friend answer the questions he asked you and stop nagging

how else do u want m 2 answer his questn when he is just beatn around d bush. pls if u dn't hav anytin 2 say u shot ur cavity.

woky: my friend answer the questions he asked you and stop nagging

How else do u want me to answer his questn when he is just beatn around d bush. pls if u dn't hav anytin 2 say u shot ur cavity.

[quote
author=obadiah777]yes there is. africa is purgatory. the wilderness
that is. our purpose in africa is to get purged. from 70 AD up to the
second coming.

ezekiel vs 20 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the
people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of
Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.

37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into
the bond of the covenant:

38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that
transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where
they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye
shall know that I am the Lord.[/quote]my dear notin lyk purgatory is only heaven, hell n earth?

woky: very good questions..

na dis questn u go answer wen imobus was bombarding u wit questn u no fit answer.