₦airaland Forum

Lithiumite:
Whats wrong with tge question? Its a debate that has been raging forever,your opinion yiu can only adduce to and let us all have a robust discourse rather than condemning anyone's views......the bisghop being interviewed infered same sentiments you are making that you cant separate politics and governance from the church,that even the church is being held together by its own politics.......but its worthy to note that both your views isn't the universal view and there are equally so many averse to your opinion on this matter.

You need not insult or demean any one or contrary opinion .

It's no longer an opinion, we've seen an ordained pastor rose to the level of VP, many governors today are deacons or even pastor, or priest

Many political appointees too, so it's just hypocritical asking such question, cos the answer is already in our faces

Kukutente23:
Lol
That's why I don't watch this TVC. They are usually very dumb. Look at the banner. Should clerics be involved in political matters? Really?
You had a Pastor Osinbajo as your VP
You had a Deacon Adesina as Special adviser
Even now, you've appointed Pastors as Efcc chairman, FIRS chairman, Ministers, etc
Even the Bishop they are interviewing is a political appointee
Governors on your party platform are pastors yet a dumb media outfit is asking if clerics should be involved in political matters
TVC don't even rate their zone Bees

People wey dey craze 😄😄

Chucks13:
I don't understand pls.

You are Alfa Ajewole as in Alfa Muslim and your brother same surname now managing your dad church and you are complaining, sorry do you want to turn the church into a mosque or what or you want to become Pastor or wolf Alfa? I'm not understanding abeg..

Alfa Sule was just a stage name, he's a Christian also 😄

Should this be heard of??

And we say the EFCC is or can be independent

Make I go one corner go laugh 😂😃😂

This is just some funny shiit

Though it would still happen even after this administration, everybody just dey do wetin him like ni 😃

helinues:
The right question would have been

Are the Bishops expecting handouts from the presidency towards the 2027 election as that used to be norm in every election circle .

What have they been complaining about that is Alien to average Nigerians? The electricity, the security or what? Did those problems start in 2023?

The mistake all those religion groups will be making is we have no business with you but Nigerians. We have been seeing all the efforts of this government in almost every sectors.

And if they are expecting over 3 decades rots to be solved in less than 4 years, then that's unseriousness from their part

Shey this thing wey you type now make sense to you??😃😃

I have known about that road now more than 20 years, the first time I heard sokoto--atan road I even thought maybe its one sokoto that they place inside atan😃

So it's a path already been used, but the coastal highway though good also, but there's an existing road that leads to calabar that just needed to be repaired

mactoni91:
I stopped watching WWE when i discovered they were all acting...

Everything there is scripted.

Omo, these guys fooled my cousins, my uncles and i.

We were always watching Monday night RAWS and Friday night SMACKDOWN.

We'll then be discussing about the fight like it were some kinda real fight, not knowing we were watching Arrangee fights. 🤣

Wen I first dey observe them na when una go say person come from grave come fight 😄

As how now, I still have more than 200 discs at my house in Lagos sef 😄😄

I knew all their names and moves back then, but now, na if I just wan laugh I dey go watch am

BATified2023:
dey play

U people should already b tired of this your madness, u said more than this in 2023.

I will advise u to pay more attention to your online country cos ur agulu packaged fraud won't smell presidency

The men who pitched him to the northern youths then, where are they now??

Except through massive rigging, he might not win in the North like he did in 2023, cos he chocked them more than the South sef

Kelklein:
The cost was not supposed to be borne by the government.. at least that's what they said at first.. they said it would be a PPP with government funding only around 10% thereabout

How they are now pumping our commonwealth into that venture beats me..

He be like you no know Nigerian government sha😄😄

Their own 10% fit big pass the Private company 90% sef 😃

Eba50:
indomie kids no know life b4 1999. na Volkswagen beetle be average man car. 505 and 504 na big men car. benz 200 flat boot ma for permanent secretary and military administrator. black and white tv na for average people. colored one na for oil workers. no worker bold buy land or build house.bread and tea na serious offence. u must budget ahead of time to eat them. obasanjo brough reward from heaven down to every door step. people felt too important to work for government cos private sector even boom pass, people come dey reject state work, workers build houses, buy recent cars, inhaler company employed my uncle, paying him 80k monthly as at 2000. 80k then was of same value as about 1 million today.this my uncle rejected state employment from ibori, cos salary was 35k, then almost like 350 value today. bread and tea na sand sand for obasanjo, color tv deu every house. obasanjo i will always kneel down and pray for u. my parents build 2 houses, bought 4 cars under u as workers in delta state

I have always said it that even though obasanjo had his flaws, he did well enough to keep the country going, I could remember that even when you graduated then, there are multiple jobs, even many informal jobs that make people see things to eat

Sardine was water in our house and we no even dey average 😃

He made sure food was very low and people prospered during his tenure

Imagine now that a plantain bunch of like 5pieces been sold for 2k

I just stand dey look sincerely

helinues:
Can't those bishops mobilized their members and start telling them the reason why they shouldn't vote for the reelection of president Tinubu instead of disgracing themselves shooking mouth into politics

Their job is not to mobilize their members for politicians

We all have been attacking Pastor Adeboye for taking a more diplomatic approach, even some of his members sef and now that the bishops decided to speak up, we still want them to be diplomatic

Who do us like this in this country?

stuffs2002:
Your hypocrisy stinks.

You want to have Christians in the north but quickly got angry when I reminded you of the Muslim population in the south east.


BTW, Christians in the south east are also converts because Christianity didn't originate from the south east

Guy whats the color of your problem now?

We are only analyzing based on what we can see right now

Whatever reason he decided to continue with the Muslim Muslim ticket, remains best known to him

But then in a contest, you can win and can lose, there's nothing like the president is winning for sure, that's the point you guys are missing, cos a slight mistake could cost him the win

Imagine if the northern Muslims who have enjoyed freebies all these years and being stopped by him decided to revolt, the small portion of Christians as you claim also decided to revolt, and the southern Nigeria also splits, what happens??

Those are the realities on ground, his game might also go well and he wins

stuffs2002:
Whatever you are smoking must be very strong.

I just dey laugh you. Which north central are you talking about? Anyone can say anything on Nairaland


Imagine if I told you that Muslims are the majority in the south east

Point out where I said Christians are the majority in the North?😄

And yes north central is about 50/50, that's no doubt

Infact the North Central no really get similarities with the Core north, other than just name

stuffs2002:
Why are you lying so brazingly

The north is majorly Muslim and Christianity is a minority religion in the north

Same way Islam is not the major religion in the south east and south south states

Did my post say major religion??😃😃

You Tinubu followers just believe in telling lies to your self

I said a sizable number, atleast they dominate the North Central, and even in the core north they still have a sizable number, so if the president had wanted to go for a Christian vice, he would have done

If you say docility, yes

Maybe they are not as active as the Muslims and that's why you would know that the Muslims plays politics more than the Christian

But then my own worry is that as we are projecting that the president has won the election even before the day, we also need to look critically what are the things that can debar him

And from the things I'm seeing here, he might not really win in the North as he did in 2023 cos the mood of the northern guys no worry dey on his side

stuffs2002:
You are not truthful to your self because you know Christians are a minority in the north.

Same way Muslims are a minority in the south east and South west.

I have Muslim friends who are indigenous to south east and also south south but that is not a yardstick for me to conclude that Muslims are not minority in the south east and south south

It's a fact guyman, the North Central has more Christians than Muslims

The northwest and north east also have sizable number of Christians, moreso, the challenge is even the Muslim community you guys are banking on are so so tired of this man, like the only way he's winning votes in the North is through massive rigging, no doubt and that's why he kept Shetima, cos he knew using a northern Christian would make the rigging almost impossible

Come anywhere wey near the north, and see wetin your Muslims friends dey talk about your president 😄

stuffs2002:
Stop lying to yourself because there are also a lot of Muslims in the south east but that doesn't mean we should assume the population of Muslims is significant to affect the election results same way the northern Christians can't sway the voting pattern.

Keep fooling yourself then😃

Una go read something finish and the next thing you start attacking

Muslims in southeast are mostly concerts

Like we are talking about an entire local government being dominated by Christians here in the North

Whatever reason he chooses to go with Muslim -muslim ticket, na him know, but the reality on ground is the urchins and guys they think would vote for them in the North are the ones abusing him and his government the most

So how do we reconcile that

Saao:
I'm very sure you're from the southern part. I can tell you that, Muslims discuss politics in the mosque than politics is discussed on the street

Many of our southern brothers don't even know a hoot about Nigeria, there is an hausa guy that do charge my phone for me, he forcefully became my friend so that he can yab me and talk about tinubu and Nigeria

Like every of their gathering whether small or big, they are discussing politics

BioData45:
LOL. You'd think politicians are religious, they only do this publicly to deceive religious people. These guys do proper charm and don't believe in any imaginary Adam and Eve.

People wey no fit leave house except their strongest juju man asked them to go out 😃😃😃

Abi who dem dey do ritual for if not them😄

Biodun556:
We are talking about northwest and north east

Do you know that there are a lot of Christians in Adamawa state??

I mean people who don't even know what they do in Islam??.
This is not hearsay, I've deal with more than 5 of them in tis Abuja and they say they have a large community, even many local governments in the North that are dominated by Christians

Moreso, the president has not even redeemed himself properly amongst the northern Muslims he's claiming would vote him, they even dislike him more than the igbos that you guys think 😃

Except for rigging shamelessly I don't think he would get up to 30% of votes in the North this time around

Sheuns:
Why didn’t he choose a Christian then? You know better than him?

He would fail woefully if he had tried to go with a Christian VP.

All Una mouth that Tinubu will show the north and handover to anyone of his choice after his tenure is all thrown in the thrash.

Tinubu needs the Muslim north votes as that’s the only thing that may guarantee him victory.

Of his over 8M votes in 2023, 5.6M came from the north. That’s more than 50%.

I'm not in his mind, and I don't know his game, I'm only talking about southerners who always assume that the North is filled with only Muslims and Christians there are foreigners, you will surprised that even in farther north, there are more Christian dominated areas and that's what most times leads to their fight too

And from the way his administration has gone, except Shetima is ready to rig shamelessly, he can't secure the northern Muslims votes, infact me as a Yoruba guy fr Abuja here, if you see the way them dey always yab us say na our brother dey spoil the country, and they say it mostly amongst their groups ni ooo

Make Una try dey go out that's what I'm trying to point out to you

Your requirement is not meeting your renumeration

No experienced social media manager will do that for that amount

Except you will find entry level or a bit with experience

This is not factual

Infact politics have lied a lot to us

The North have a good proportion of Christians that can still give the president a good outing

Apart from some few northern states that are dominated by mostly Muslims, the rest have almost a hot wave of Christian growing population

Una go just dey lie give us like say we no dey go out also

escortafrik:
Hmmm first time I’m seeing this type of fruit

Na becos them no dey sell am before now

Na person wey get am for house go give you 😃

So does that mean he has no right anymore to complain about what he feels it's right??

Can people now see that our leaders don't listen to people ni

It's because this one happened in the open, those ones that happened behind nko🤔

So should we begin to find the site to apply ourselves now?

Yampotatocarrot:
Kudos

They should however work on the Youthcred application. There are issues with the website as it's busy showing error when it's time for verification

For like one week that they've been on verification, they've not sent me a message

They try rephrase your word, which one is scammer??

I help you check your results online though with my own data,.I dey service my office through charity abi?😃

For a while now, waec gives students scratch cards to check their results, the only thing they pay for is the service charge

So how is that a scam?

ibabz:
The bishops met with the President and presented their concerns, just as they have done with previous administrations over the years. That is part of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria’s longstanding tradition of engaging those in authority and speaking on issues affecting the nation.

From the accounts that have emerged, the President defended his administration and its policies. However, it is evident that he did not persuade the bishops to change the assessment they had reached after their own deliberations. If he had, there would have been little reason for Cardinal John Onaiyekan to later explain publicly that the bishops stood by the concerns they presented.

It is worth remembering what it takes to become a bishop in the Catholic Church. Bishops are not appointed casually. They are men who have undergone years of rigorous intellectual, theological and pastoral formation. They are widely read, experienced and entrusted with the responsibility of guiding millions of faithful while engaging complex social, moral and national issues.

When these bishops gather as the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria to review the state of the nation, they do not simply express personal opinions. They deliberate collectively, drawing from reports across the country, their pastoral experience and careful reflection before issuing a communiqué.

Naturally, if anyone hopes to persuade such a body to reconsider its conclusions, it requires more than assurances or optimistic rhetoric. It requires convincing evidence, credible data and demonstrable results that address the concerns they have raised.

Cardinal Onaiyekan’s subsequent remarks should therefore be understood in that context. He was not introducing a new position; he was explaining the position already adopted by the bishops after their meeting with the President. Nor was it the first time he had spoken candidly on national issues, regardless of which political party was in power.

What transformed an ordinary exchange between the Church and the government into a national controversy was not the meeting itself, but the reactions that followed. Rather than engage the substance of the bishops’ concerns, some political commentators and government supporters, including presidential spokesman Daniel Bwala who turned their attention to questioning the bishops and Cardinal Onaiyekan personally. That shift from debating the message to attacking the messenger is what escalated the conversation and diverted attention from the important national issues the bishops had raised.

He should not defend it, as a leader when a concern is raised, you don't defend it, you work on the concerns raised, that's what a leader does always

ibabz:
You are absolutely correct. I’ve come to realize that the issue may not be Tinubu alone, but also the people around him. If those closest to a leader are unwilling to speak honestly, or if they believe he is not receptive to uncomfortable truths, then meaningful feedback becomes impossible.

The recent visit of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria (CBCN) reinforced that concern for me. It appeared to highlight a leadership environment where criticism is too easily dismissed rather than carefully considered.

Unfortunately, many of those surrounding the President seem more interested in defending every government action than in offering sincere advice. Whether out of loyalty, fear of losing their positions, or the desire to preserve their privileges, they often choose praise over honesty.

Equally concerning are citizens who defend every policy solely on the basis of tribe or religion, regardless of its impact. When political support becomes unconditional, accountability suffers, and it is ordinary Nigerians who ultimately bear the consequences.

Everyone is entitled to support a political leader, but that support should never come at the expense of truth, constructive criticism, or the national interest.

That was the exact problem many of us who have studied him for long had before he became the president

He long have that personality of I am the best no matter what and a leader should always listen, you don't criticize, you only need to work on the issues raised

Man just dey fall hand with his handling of the presidency

I don't know why UEFA usually does this whenever Spain wins the world cup

They started the controversy to oust sepp blatter during the 2010 world cup, even the VAR and goal line technology started from that same world cup

Make we celebrate with the winners first, we go dey come back to infantino later abeg

Well opposite attracts

Same way a poor man can't wait to get into the biggest luxuries in life it's the same way the rich always crave for the normal life the average men live also

Though maybe once in a while baba fit travel to one remote area and disguise fully but if he thinks he will live like that for long, that one na lie 🤥