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OyoTunjiUSA:
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Hi, thank you so much for your response.

I have not submitted my Ds160 yet and I will be so grateful if I can discuss privately with you as to all of the things I have put in place towards my second attempt.

Thank you very much.

OyoTunjiUSA:
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1. The only thing i will mark as changed so far in your new visa application is the Employment Bond Agreement you are presenting and that document would be useless on the day of your interview if the consular does not request for it. ** You have to flunt it with style , perhaps in order to draw the VO's attention to it .

2. You aligned your visa application very well in your 1st - attempt by naming your employer as your sponsor. Now, you have complicated the scenario by naming your hubby and family as Co-Sponsor in your Form -I 20.

3. The bad implication of naming your husband and your family as co-sponsor along with your employer is that ; You and your family have coerced your employer to sponsor you or begged your employer to sponsor you .

4. Naturally , if your skill is needed by your employer in the future (upon graduation) as a result of your archievements within the 2 years ( as you claimed ), then your employer does not need to pally or collaborate with any one financially in order to sponsor you , otherwise, your employer is not big enough and financially incapable to sponsor your advanced study abroad .

5. In your last interview , the VO told you to Shut Up ! When you said :

Me: overtime I have contributed tremendously to the growth of the firm and surpasses my KPI last year by over 25%……

*** You cannot achieve the above stated within 2 years in your organisation (VO's mind). That 2 years is too small, hence the VO's decision to interrupted you.

6. The complication in your Form I 20 (merging family as co-sponsor) is already a fait accompli. Just be positive and pray and communicate your case to the consular in a convincing ways.


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Hello House, this is a follow up to my post in October last year. I am quoting it so that you have a background knowledge of my first attempt at the US Embassy. I am going for another interview now and this is what has changed so far.

1. My deficit has reduced from $42,000 to $38,000
2. My employer is only paying the school fees deficit itself of $16,000
3. My I20 states my husband and family will be paying the remaining COA of $22,000 to cover my living expenses, health and books.
4. I have personal funds of my own and my salary has increased considerably.
5. I have a Bond Agreement notarized at the Notary Public of Nigeria and a study leave approval letter.
6. I have established a prior relationship with my employer, as i have included the fact that i interned with my employer during my academic breaks as an undergraduate intern and graduate intern. Thus while my full time relationship has only been from 2021. I have over 7 years relationship with my employer.

Are there any other things i should take note of?

Ammydee:
First Attempt, Denied
Consulate: Lagos
Date: October 30th 2023
VO: plump white lady in window 2
COA: $77,000
Scholarship: $35000
Deficit: $42,000
Sponsor: Employer

VO: what do you do ?
Me: I work as a lawyer in the corporate and commercial law department of ****, a law firm.
VO: Are you married
Me : yes, I am
VO: How long have you worked for your company
Me: I have worked with my firm since 2021
VO: That is 2 years and How much do you earn ?
Me: I earn ****
VO: You’ve worked for only two years and earn this amount, why do they want to spend so much money on your education ?
Me: overtime I have contributed tremendously to the growth of the firm and surpasses my KPI last year by over 25%……
VO: cuts me short……i am not convinced as to why they will want to sponsor your education as what you earn does not tally with the amount they are willing to spend. Unfortunately I will not be approving your visa.

The company is actually sponsoring but I did not have the time to sufficient explain the structure of the funding.
It’s an Advanced Training Scheme, which requires me to sign a bond that I will come back to work for the firm for 3 years upon completion of the degree or pay the total amount the firm spent in the training.

They are paying the remaining school fees, which is about $28k

While the room and board will be sorted out by my husband

Unfortunately I didn’t put my husband in my 1-20 as a co-sponsor, so I decided not to mention it to the VO

My questions are:
1. How soon can I reapply? I was thinking of reapplying this week, and hopefully get another date in late November or December as I’m supposed to resume in January.
2. How do I convince the VO that my office is actually sponsoring, will the bond agreement suffice?

Thank you

Hi, thank you for your response. I used employer the first time and I was denied, hence my skepticism about going same direction.

BagOfSweets:
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1. The option number (1) one is still the best option that will favor you because it is reasonable if your employer is sending you abroad for advanced program than your hubby .

**** However , if i were in your team , i will advice you to remove your hubby and stand with your employer alone . This is a gimmick which i will not elaborate further here .

2. You also have to change 75% of what you stated on your previous DS 160 (ie duration of work, salary, Post Graduation plans , and ties back home ) and work on your Ability to give a convincing answers to the Consular Officer .

3. Defer your admission if you cannot meet up with the correction of the above errors .




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Good day, this is a follow up on my post made in October. I am about applying for another visa interview and I need advice on what to do.

The options available are;
1. My office pays for my tuition deficit only, which is $14500 while my husband will pay the other deficit of $27,000

2. My husband is the sole sponsor and will pay the entire deficit of $42,000

Kindly advise on which has a greater chance of approval. Thanks

Ammydee:
First Attempt, Denied
Consulate: Lagos
Date: October 30th 2023
VO: plump white lady in window 2
COA: $77,000
Scholarship: $35000
Deficit: $42,000
Sponsor: Employer

VO: what do you do ?
Me: I work as a lawyer in the corporate and commercial law department of ****, a law firm.
VO: Are you married
Me : yes, I am
VO: How long have you worked for your company
Me: I have worked with my firm since 2021
VO: That is 2 years and How much do you earn ?
Me: I earn ****
VO: You’ve worked for only two years and earn this amount, why do they want to spend so much money on your education ?
Me: overtime I have contributed tremendously to the growth of the firm and surpasses my KPI last year by over 25%……
VO: cuts me short……i am not convinced as to why they will want to sponsor your education as what you earn does not tally with the amount they are willing to spend. Unfortunately I will not be approving your visa.

The company is actually sponsoring but I did not have the time to sufficient explain the structure of the funding.
It’s an Advanced Training Scheme, which requires me to sign a bond that I will come back to work for the firm for 3 years upon completion of the degree or pay the total amount the firm spent in the training.

They are paying the remaining school fees, which is about $28k

While the room and board will be sorted out by my husband

Unfortunately I didn’t put my husband in my 1-20 as a co-sponsor, so I decided not to mention it to the VO

My questions are:
1. How soon can I reapply? I was thinking of reapplying this week, and hopefully get another date in late November or December as I’m supposed to resume in January.
2. How do I convince the VO that my office is actually sponsoring, will the bond agreement suffice?

Thank you

Ade2303:
Sorry to hear about your refusal, the VO already addressed the main concern why your application was not approved.

Answers to your questions.
1. You can reapply anytime, even the following day, however be ready to answer questions like, “you were here the last time, what has changed?”
You should also be aware that If you couldn’t provide any significant change in your situation like reduce COA or deficit, or a convincing statement to back up your case, that’s most likely to lead to another denial”.

2. Bond Agreement? A document…
The reason why the VO’s are usually not interested in any document you might be holding is because they are aware of how easy to get papers in Nigeria, be it fake or original, with connections to serve a purpose at a given time, and since you’ve been there too and see how fast they make decisions on applications, so this is most likely not going to work, I’d say it’s 50/50.

Possible Solution.
NB:
Don’t be too desperate trying to meet a deadline of a resumption, because without a Visa, you can’t even go anywhere…

** If your current school can’t increase your scholarship to decrease your deficit, search and apply to another school with less COA, more funding and with no or less deficit, probably for May or September 2024 intake, that way, you can easily argue your case and answer what changed in your application in your next interview…

#This is just from my personal experience and knowledge, I wish you the best in your next application.

Thank you so much for a detailed response. I have reached out to my school to defer my admission to next year fall, which they have agreed to. I am also applying to other schools with the hope of getting more funding.

In light of this, in my subsequent application, do you suggest I omit the role of my company in my education, even though they are the one paying the tuition deficit and use my husband as sponsor. Or should I use dual sponsors, that is my organization paying the fee deficit, which will be less than $10k and my husband paying the room and board and other incidental expenses?

Thank you.

BigIyanga:
If you’re going to an Ivy league school, it would make sense, but tough luck explaining why a young hire is deserving such a huge amount with scanty work history?
What is your specialty? Is your new degree going to make you a national expert in your field after graduation

Have you considered looking for a cheaper school with COA since your firm is going to pay your tuition?

I am a lawyer, I am going for a masters in law.

BigIyanga:
Your deficit is too to much to be covered by a Naija lawfirm that you have been working for since 2021?

Why would a company spend so much $$ on a new hire like you?

Would you spend such an amount on a new employee if you were the CEO of the company?

Ammydee post=126724218:

What do you suggest I do? Cause my office is actually paying the $28k deficit. I have a bond agreement, sponsorship letter and study leave letter to that effect. While my husband will be paying for my living expenses.

First Attempt, Denied
Consulate: Lagos
Date: October 30th 2023
VO: plump white lady in window 2
COA: $77,000
Scholarship: $35000
Deficit: $42,000
Sponsor: Employer

VO: what do you do ?
Me: I work as a lawyer in the corporate and commercial law department of ****, a law firm.
VO: Are you married
Me : yes, I am
VO: How long have you worked for your company
Me: I have worked with my firm since 2021
VO: That is 2 years and How much do you earn ?
Me: I earn ****
VO: You’ve worked for only two years and earn this amount, why do they want to spend so much money on your education ?
Me: overtime I have contributed tremendously to the growth of the firm and surpasses my KPI last year by over 25%……
VO: cuts me short……i am not convinced as to why they will want to sponsor your education as what you earn does not tally with the amount they are willing to spend. Unfortunately I will not be approving your visa.

The company is actually sponsoring but I did not have the time to sufficient explain the structure of the funding.
It’s an Advanced Training Scheme, which requires me to sign a bond that I will come back to work for the firm for 3 years upon completion of the degree or pay the total amount the firm spent in the training.

They are paying the remaining school fees, which is about $28k

While the room and board will be sorted out by my husband

Unfortunately I didn’t put my husband in my 1-20 as a co-sponsor, so I decided not to mention it to the VO

My questions are:
1. How soon can I reapply? I was thinking of reapplying this week, and hopefully get another date in late November or December as I’m supposed to resume in January.
2. How do I convince the VO that my office is actually sponsoring, will the bond agreement suffice?

Thank you