MamaFryo:


Are you for real? Come on!

Come on?

This was meant to be the opportunity for your type to attempt at substanting the false narratives you continue to perpetuate?

My thing is, assuming it's nonsensical gibberish that you're aiming to respond with, then save it as I've no interest in veering off on tangents.

The Saul chatacter is a fictional one, assuming you have proof to the contrary kindly provide them here or accept the facts as stated and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint going forward.

Eventhough, I firmly recommend the assumption that our planet is spherical, its proven linear, translucent as well, allowing illusions of various kinds, leading to these type of discussions.

It's important to note, I'm not here to convince anyone of their opinion of our planets shape or size, ya'll can argue away, it's interesting to take notes when concepts and ideas are being processed here.

I've nothing more than the upmost respect for NLanders who continue to push the envelope of these kind of radical interesting thought process.

Our planet can be said to be egg shaped, that is to say its spherical for the most, there are flat areas at certain angles, however those features are negligible.

I suppose the actions of the Uttah District is a call out to our educators to make these same things reflect in their curriculum going forward.

Steep:

I as a follower of Jesus christ love everyone regardless of race gender or religion.

Repent and believe in Jesus christ

You aren't making any sense.

Jesus is a fictional character.

You are better off taking into consideration the legacy that came about due to the brilliance of our parents and feed off of that in order to make our world a better place, oppossed to giving your soul away to fictional characters that were created by foreign extremist ideologues.

Steep:
Did you read where it said there are indirect archeological evidence?

All the Pharoahs of KM.T are listed on the walls, there are archeological evidence for the majority of the Pharoahs of KM.T, and these African rulers predates all the foreign extremist ideologically based narratives that you peddle.

You have no evidence for any of your fictional characters, you know this, I know this, and they out there, they know it as well.

This is one of the reasons I implore you to free yourself from the artificial hold that these foreign extremist ideologies have on you, noone can free you but you.

Redirect this same energy into making our world a better place.

We ought to bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

Steep:
Did you read where it said there are indirect archeological evidence?....

Is that your submission?

Are you submitting that your proof for your fictional character is based on an indirect archaeological evidence?

Thanks for chiming into the discussion and I hope you continue to study, research and re-educate yourself with regards to history

Since by your own admission, the proof you claim to have for your fictional characters aren't based on evidence that can pass as being authentic, then there's no need for further discussion.

Africans invented all the better things in life, these are the things that can be proven beyond any doubt.

Steep:

Read well before coming to share ignorance....

You aren't making any sense.


You claimed that there is tons of archaeological evidence for your fictional characters and I simply point you to the admissions in the article you posted.

It's you who obviously cannot read properly.

Anyways, we await the proof you claim to have as the sources you posted are either not in support of your argument or are completely unreliable.

Perhaps you don't know what is being asked of you.

The consensus amongst all serious minded historians and academics is that the Jesus Christ character is fictional.

There are various reasons it's agreed that the Jesus character is fictional, one of these is due to the fact that there are no evidence anywhere on the planet for the said character that passes as being authentic. Be it archaeological or any other kind.

Kindly provide us with proof of your fictional characters and false narratives or accept the facts as stated above.

Steep:

you are an ignorant man
Nearly all scholars of antiquity agree that that the books of the Gospels are historical.
https://handwiki.org/wiki/Religion:Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels

Furthermore, the article above tells you that there's no archaeological evidence for the Jesus character nor any of your other fictional characters that you intend on peddling here.

It's pretty simple, we ought to bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.




According to Eric Cline, someone who is considered a theology expert, "there is no direct archaeological evidence of the existence of a historical Jesus, nor any of the apostles"...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels

Steep:

Nearly all scholars of antiquity agree that that the books of Gospel.

There's not one serious minded historian or academic that co-signs any of the Abrahamic religious text, instead they are rendered as false narratives.

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook.

Its common knowledge that your fantasy book is solely based on fakery and falsehood.

Furthermore, it was these same type of Eurocentric ideologues that perpetrated colonisation and slavery who also invented the Christian bible.

Hence, you can miss me with your disengenous and unhonest rhetoric.

Steep:

Scholars and historians generally agree that Jesus is historic person..

Sources!?

There's no serious minded historian that will come up with the nonsensical gibberish that you're projecting here.

According to history, Jesus is a fictional character.

Given that neither you or any of your tutors can provide us with proof for your fictional characters or your false narratives, there are no second hand witness accounts, there's no evidence out there that can pass as being genuine and authentic, then, it stands to reason that your fictional characters never existed to begin with, and that you and your tutors are peddling a false representation of history.

Steep:

haha, you are one funny clown I have ever met, so all the modern scholars that endorses tacitus as a true historian and writer all all crazy...

History doesn't recollect your fictional characters, furthermore, as stated earlier, the Annals are a forgery, therefore you are back to square one with no reliable source to backup the nonsensical gibberish that you have been spouting.


To add to the fact that both your sources are unreliable ones, are you telling us that out of the hundreds of historians that ought to be in Greece and Roman from the 1st to the 4th century CE, there are only two historians that you can come up with?

Steep:

What is the proof that Josephus invented Jesus story line?

Josephus is a pen name, his real name was said to be Ariso Piso.

No, Josephus is out of the question.

Josephus isn't a reliable source.

You've failed to provide any proof of your fictional characters, except for some inaccuracies thats without any merit, try again or accept the facts as presented earlier and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.

Steep:
truth is extreme, because the existence of truth does not allow contrary views.
What is extreme about Jesus?

Jesus is a fictional character, it doesn't matter if you think your fictitious characters portrayed extremity or not, the point is that the characters aren't real and you ought to make amends to your viewpoint and cease peddling fakery and falsehood.

Steep:

There are tons of evidence....

Where?

You cannot use your foreign extremist ideology to prove your foreign extremist ideology, wake yourself up when you can't find one archogical evidence of any of your fictional characters.

I suppose this is something you ought to restudy and come back here to make amends to this reaching you have going on.

Steep:

There are tons of evidence that proves the books of the gospel as true.
The primary evidence for Jesus existence are the books of the gospel....

Ignorance isnt said to be bliss on its own accord, yet, once one has experienced the truth, Ignorance cannot be used as an excuse any longer.


You're jumping the ranch, you cannot invoke false narratives as your source and at the same time neglect your responsibility for the authenticity such source.

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and instead go and pick up proper history books.

For the umpteenth time, kindly provide us the proof of these fictional characters and false narratives of yours or accept the facts as stated above and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.

orisa37:
THE SUPREME SPIRIT, ROARED, LET THERE BE LIGHT AND IN A BIG BANG, EVERYTHING FELL INTO PLACES.....

Who is God.

The African divine principles are God.

Foreigners came to our continent, found out about our divine principles and went on to call them God.

Hence, the African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

The Orisa are God.

Sopona is a god.

Jesus is a fake god.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.

orisa37:
THE SUPREME SPIRIT, ROARED, LET THERE BE LIGHT AND IN A BIG BANG, EVERYTHING FELL INTO PLACES. ...

Precisely, yet, that has nothing to with Christianity or any other foreign extremist ideology for that matter.

Africans invented all the better things in life.

orisa37:
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THE BIBLE IS PERFECT. CHRISTIANITY IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. CHRISTIANITY IS THE RIGHTEOUS.

Christianity is one of the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.

Steep:
Fun fact do you know that there are more archeological evidence for the historicity of Jesus than for Julius Ceasar?

Kindly point us to one archaeological evidence for any of your fictional characters, just one.

Steep:
....
Is nelson madela, Christopher Columbus
, Isaac Newton fiction or historical figures?

What type of logic is this?

This isnt a question regarding a competition on the number of historical characters any of us can come up with, is it?

It's you claiming that your fictional character is meant to be real, quit buck dancing, and provide us with genuine proof or simply accept the facts as stated earlier.

Steep:

what false narratives, scholars and historians have found that Jesus was an historical person,

The sources you're claiming are based on fakery and falsehood, this isnt a slight to the publisher's, Wikipedia is one of the most unbiased and reliable encyclopedias that exist out there, the point here is directed at your so-called sources, out of what was meant to be hundreds of historians in those days, the only ones that you could come up with in your post was Josephus and Tacitus, coupled with the fact that these are widely known to be problematic and as such rendered as being without any merit.

Josephus was a colourful commentator, the same one credited as the writer who invented the Jesus storyline, eliminating this particular writer out of the discussion.

Tacitus writings are forgeries.

source:

•Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged In The XVth Century authored by John Wilson Ross.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9098/pg9098.html

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ, all the narratives you're peddling are based on a combination of fakery and falsehood, these are the reasons they're called false narratives.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

Steep:
you are far from reality, Jesus is a historical figure.

Are you going to answer my question, yes or no.

It isn't a trick question.

Since by your own wordings, you claim your fictional character to be real, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Kindly bear in mind that there's no appetite here for any inconsequential gibberish.

I'm assuming this to be the opportunity you've been craving to substantiate the false narratives that you continue to perpetuate.

Go!

Steep:
I am asking you how do you prove a book is a history book?
The books of the gospel are historical, Jesus is a historical figure even the modern calendar is numbered base on Jesus birth.

Even atheists intellectuals agree that Jesus was a historical person, you sir are ignorant.
Open up and find out yourself.

You can miss me with all that gobbledegook.

Answer my question or keep it moving.

There was never a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ.

Kindly provide proof of this fictional character of yours or receive sense into your viscera and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.

FRANCISTOWN:

What proof do you have to back up this bold claim?

You don't get to ask the questions around here, it's you who's under questioning.

I will take my chances with the plethora of intellectual properties afforded to us by our ancestors, parents and master teachers, and let they be the ones teaching us about our world and its surroundings, opposed to the teachings of foreign extremist ideologues.

Furthermore, non Africans are the first people to address our divine principles as 'God', go and ask the olden day Arabs, Greeks and Romans, they were the ones who called our divine principles 'God'.

Assuming you missed it the first time, foreigners came to our continent, found out about our divine principles and went on to call them God, hence, the African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.

Steep:

Have you read the books of the gospel?

All the foreign extremist ideologically based narratives are fake, false and counterintuitive.

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and instead go and pick up proper history books.

Steep:
The onus is on you to prove that history is provable.
Go ahead, you are the one that assumed history is provable to do the needful prove it.

Give yourself a wobble.

Ok. You accept that the Jesus character is fictional.

Cool, now keep it moving.

Steep:
those history books are made up. You are saying nonsense prove otherwise

All these foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric ought to be banned throughout our continent's education systems, similar to the Utah District.

Steep:
those history books are made up. You are saying nonsense prove otherwise

You aren't making any sense.

The onus is on you to provide the proof of your fictional characters and false narratives.

One cannot prove the non-existence of a character that never existed in the first instance.

Steep:

Why would Rome persecute and kill Christians?

You'd have to ask a Roman, if ever you get to see a Roman.

My thing is that you're peddling a false representation of history, and as such, that question is mute.

When you afford yourself the time to actually study history, oppossed to peddling false narratives, then you can come back here to make proper sense.

Steep:
the books of the gospels are historical

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook.

My advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and instead go and pick up proper history books.