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Maynman:
No it doesn’t and all you wrote are all BS.

No you are completely and utterly wrong.

What is the meaning of Hamartiology?

Maynman:
No it doesn’t and all you wrote are all BS.

Yes it does.

According to the narratives of the foreign extremist ideologies, Hamartiology come from the root word Hamartia. Hamatia comes from the root word Ham

The Doctrine of Total Depravity.


The doctrine of "total depravity" comes out of the foreign extremist ideologies and pushes a false assertion, peddles the notion that there's no good in anyone.


According to this particular foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric, there's not one iota of good in anyone.

Hamartiology

According to foreign extremist ideologies, Hamartiology is the doctrine of sin, as Soterism be the doctrine of salvation.

Hamartiology comes from the root word 'Hamartia'.

Hamartia is a foreign extremist ideologically based terminology that they use in place of another foreign extremist ideologically based terminology, 'sin.

Its important to note that without hamartia, there's no soterism.


In other words, the unintelligible bullying of one's self so as to embrace Depravity, automatically leads directly into a risk of accepting without questions, counterintuitive and counterproductive rhetoric masked as the solutions.

Whereas, in the real world, the energy trapped in counterintuitive and counterproductive activities is desperately needed in our day-to-day lives, well being, growth, basic amenities, sociopolitical intangibles.

Since the initial problem is false, in most instances, the harm (if any) from the intentions to finding solutions to problems that are nonexistent, should be productive at best. i.e
(i) Wishfully thinking you could beat Usain Bolt in a 100m sprint whilst competing in one, at any level below world class.
(ii) The fact that the problem doesn't actually exist, then, that ought to be that.

However, this isnt how foreign extremist ideology works.

The foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric are having a most devastating effect on the betterment and prosperity of the continent. This really isn't the situation of a harmless falsehood that can eadily be laughed off.

Ultimately, eventually, all our enemies will fail, and their failures will turnout to be woeful and Africa will become great again and all will be correct and proper in the Universe.

My advice to our Brothers and Sisters living abroad is to get into the habit of saving for a holiday, this way it will become affordable in the long.

Contrary to what anyone told us, it's "skills" ,"who one is" and "who one knows" and experience, that "pay the bills" in majority of these places abroad, oppossed to 'merit', as one would normally suppose.

Another piece of information that was convieniently omitted when they pitched travelling to me, perhaps the people who pitched this to me was themselves ignorant of these facts.

It isn't all as was advertised to many of us prior to somewhat taking that 'shot in the dark.

My advice to anyone and everyone of our Brothers and Sisters who think there's some "pot of riches" in abroad ought to think again, due to the fact that when reality kicks in, reality will definitely kick in, and all those false narratives of the road painted in gold and people plucking wealth from the floor will indeed prove to be false and misleading.

My thing is, I wish everyone of my Brothers and Sisters on NL all the best wishes and hope everyone reaches their highest potential and all of that, however, the facts aren't debatable; it's way better and essential that we make OUR world a better place, there's simply no place on the planet that beats 'Home'.

Furthermore, thanks OP, great question.

Who is God?

The African divine principles are God.

Foreigners came to our continent, found out about our divine principles, and went on to call them God.

Hence, the African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

For instance,

The Orisa are God.

Sopona is a god.

Jesus is a fake god.


Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.

The only people on this planet that deserve to be served a pipeline to our own resources are us the general public who live in the country, our brothers and sisters on the continent, our Beloved Diaspora; all those who genuinely wish us well.

I cannot think of any other demographic on planet Earth that qualify to be in receipt of our natural resources.

Outside of those forementioned, there arent any that deserve to be in receipt of our natural resources or any other of our resources for that matter.

Mercury12:
Do you know how much Nigeria will make selling her gas to Europe. Lol

Zilch, nothing, zero, is the amount the general public will make as a profit from such treachery.

onuman:
Let the gas be piped to homes in Nigeria first, the remainder can be sold to outsiders.

You're spot on and I totally agree with you in your determinations.

I would go further to suggest nothing should be sold to any outsider whatsoever. If it isn't African Nations benefitting from such a project, then allow the local business to be in surplus.

Nothing is meant to go to waste, evidently the trajectory of this project in its current form is a complete and utter waste.

This is definitely up there with some of the worst decisions in recent memory.

What in God's good planet is going on here.

We never chop belle full, yet we want to supply other countries, other continents, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Kobojunkie:
The Book is merely paper and ink... it isn't holy at all. So please stop worshipping the book abeg!

Teach!

Meaning?

Are you ok?

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook.

My advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and go and pick up proper history books.

jasonex4:
So why and how does my trying to prove his existence become an issue for you??

You aren't trying to does anything, show us the breakdown of what it is your trying to prove, frankly, i dont see what you're on about, assuming you aren't aware of where we are at, this is exactly what is being asked of you from the get go.

For the umpteenth time, provide us the proof of this fictional character of yours, or simply accept the facts as stated, noone is interested in your rhetoric.

jasonex4:
So why and how does my belief that he existed and is the saviour now an issue to you??

For me, anyone can choose to believe in whatever they fancy, the heck, there are people out there that believe in a giant floating spaghetti monster, they even have a church and all that, that's on whoever is down with similar falsehoods, my thing is that, such persons will however be put in check and given a thorough dressed down when attempting to peddle their malicious foreign extremist ideologies.

Believe in whatever malicious falsehood you so choose, however, allow such counterintuitive and counterproductive ideologies to remain in your medula oblongata where it will be of no harm to anyone else.

Spout these falsehoods on the Internet, and be prepared to provide us with genuine proof or simply receive sense into your viscera and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.

jasonex4:
You chose to believe "Jesus" never existed and its perfectly fine...

The actual facts are that the Jesus character is a fictional one, it's you rather, who in the face of these actual facts, continue to choose to "believe" in the falsehood of foreign extremist ideologues.

kelechiodo:
I wonder how you have the time to reply to someone who asked you to discard results of a research but provide 'evidence'.

Research?

What research?

Instead of telling him to accept common sense into his vicera you instead are encouraging him in pretending to not know what the question.

Shall I remind you?

Stop peddling foreign extremist ideologically based narratives as they are counterintuitive, counterproductive and malicious.

Stop standing up for foreign extremist ideologies and instead divert that same energy into making our world a better place for ourselves and our leaders of tomorrow.

kelechiodo:
I wonder how you have the time to reply to someone who asked you to discard results of a research but provide 'evidence'. What evidence is he looking for outside documented historical events.

The Jesus character is fictitious, the story is based on a combination of fakery and falsehood.

Again, assuming you have any proof to the contrary, kindly provide them here and cease arguing pointlessly.

iyke2ken:
... and is my argument - there are reports that Jesus did...

The Jesus character is fictional.

Reports my foot, there arent any genuine reports of any such character due to the forementioned reason.

You have failed to provide any proof for this fictional character of yours and as such, my advice is for you to cease peddling these malicious rhetoric and instead focus your concentration on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, min
ing, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding, e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

iyke2ken:
However, I would like for you to note that I have intentionally highlighted the above, and downplayed the evidences contained in the 'Holy Bible', because obviously its testimonies would be thrown out by you, because it is regarded as the Christian book.

Downplayed?

The Christian bible is fake, false and counterintuitive. No serious minded historian takes any of those foreign extremist ideologically based narratives of any historical value.

As in the Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and go and pick up proper history books.

iyke2ken:
Firstly, let me state categorically that whilst you an I can argue about the existential nature of 'the christ', our knowledge about the subject is largely limited to what we've read, heard etc and not necessarily what we have seen for ourselves. Put in other words, me and you nor dey there that time.

Having stated the obvious, also let you know that I am not a Christian, Muslim, atheist, guru Maharaji or any of such. I no just send anybody papa.

However, and for the sake of our argument, I will like to draw your attention to Flavius Josephus, who wrote on the history of Judaism around AD93. In his work, Jewish Antiquities, he referenced the existence of Jesus when he says "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus (The Annals) we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37).

Although there isn't much, in terms of archaelogy, to prove that Jesus Christ lived, there are other proofs. Hell, it will even be difficult to prove that you and I exist 100 years after we both die. Archeologists would buttress this point by telling you that 99.999% of the people that's lived cannot even verified. So, there you go.

Wake yourself up when you cannot find any evidence of a person called Jesus in any parts of the so-called Annals.

How about taking what was said into consideration.

You choose to deceive yourself.

And according to your warped and baseless argument, you are attempting to argue your angle in support of your fictional character by citing to problematic piece of writings.


Perhaps you ought to examine the facts, they're right there.

The material you're claiming as your evidence is not only insignificant, scraps, the information in Tacitus writings doesn't mention the name Jesus anywhere in the content.

Furthermore, latest information has rendered the Tacitus Annals as being tampered with, a forgery.

When a thorough perusal of the script was performed, the experts in writing analysis found irregularities in the writing patterns, so much that they conclude that it's a forgery.

The irony is that, apart from the fact that if one was to take the words of that material for it's worth (eventhough there's undisputable evidence that has allowed it to become inadmissible due to the works of Poggio Bracciolini - da Strada Boccaccio, was said to make use of the Annals in the writing of his own books before Poggio was even born.), there were characters of that time period that answered to the title Chrustus
i.e Serapis.


More importantly, where the irregularities was found is in the actual insertions of the term Chrustus and Chresteans as explained by the writing analyst.

They stated that out of the entire piece of writing, the only parts whereby the grammatical pattern is alien to the rest of the content is at those insertions of "Chrustus" and Chrestrean.


source:

•Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged In The XVth Century authored by John Wilson Ross.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9098/pg9098.html


As for the Josephus writings, he's credited as the writer who invented the Jesus storyline; that obviously discounts that particular writer.

You're argument is flawed.

There are no historians of the first century from whom wrote about this fictional character, and there was meant to be hundreds of them in Rome and Greece at that time period.

Yet, you are presenting two problematic piece of writing as your argument.

It doesn't add up, and you know that on your own accord.

The mathematics doesn't math, out of hundreds of historians from the first century up to the 4th century, there's only one historian that you can come up with?

And to add to that, the material is unreliable.

Cannot you see the absurdity of your argument?

iyke2ken:
..there are so many undeniable facts that suggests that he actually did exist, on earth, at some point.

All that rhetoric doesn't really amount to much, as a matter of fact, its malicious.

Now, kindly tell us when you're going to begin stating these so-called facts of yours, actually don't tell us when you're going to begin providing us the proof we've been asking of you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood, go on and just begin with the stating these so-called facts of yours.

Your false statements can only be seen as "delusion of the highest order", noone is asking you guys for rhetoric, it's as though when us bring up these important questions, you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood are in competition on how larger of a tangent could you veer from reality.

Goes to show how much of a diabolic spell exposure to these foreign extremist ideologies really have caused to some of the lovely, yet, innocent people on our continent; when in the face of reality, some of us continue to express these kind of delusions.

It's one thing to believe in false narratives, that can be said to be on such individual, however, it's an although different thing to be peddling malicious constructs aimed at trapping your own soul and that of your immediate surroundings in a bubble thar doesn't really exist.


My advice is for you to stop peddling these malicious rhetoric, take into consideration the fact that you're unable to provide what is being asked of you, (assuming you have any such proof, there'd be no need to be asking the same question repeatedly at every juncture), and accept that the things that are being said as the facts that they are, does your own further research and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint of our world.

iyke2ken:
...try use Google make you check out wetyn history get to say about the existence of 'Jesus Christ'. Whilst there are varying arguments as to whether he is/was the son of God, there are so many undeniable facts that suggests that he actually did exist, on earth, at some point.

Thank you for chiming in to the discussion here, I detect that this was a genuine response from you eventhough much of it amounts to the same malicious rhetoric that us are asking anyone of you peddlers of these foreign extremist ideologies to provide here for starters.

Kindly pay attention to the pace of the discussions here, we've gone past that part already, perhaps you're still jiving in first gear, the ship has sailed on the false claims you continue to perpetuate, the point at right now is the point whereby anyone responding to us regarding the fictional characters from within these foreign extremist ideologies ought to be prepared to provide us with genuine proof, I simply don't want to be reading "She said", "He said"; "Dem say for the most popular search engine the world has ever seen, say ...".

Anyone responding to these type of matters really ought to be aware that assuming they aren't answering to the specific questioning here, they can only be seen as trolling.

Ken4Christ:
....

All that nonsensical gibberish belongs in the trash can.

Make it make sense, pause! That's simply impossible, it doesn't make sense.

Cease quoting me assuming it's this type of gobbledegook you intend on spouting.

You're jumping the ranch, first you need to provide us the proof of this fictional character of yours.

Let me remind you what the discussion is supposed to be about, this was meant for you to take the opportunity to attempt at substantiating the false claims you continue to make.

Again, assuming it's nonsensical gibberish you intend on spouting, then, you shouldn't waste either our time, as I have no interest whatsoever in such malicious and nonsensical rhetoric.

Answer the questions being asked of you or simply accept the facts as presented by fellow NLanders and make the necessary amends to your mind set and keep it moving.

Ken4Christ:
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I'm not interested in inconsequential gibberish, assuming that's what you're intending, you might as well save it.

How about you take what's being said into consideration, and free yourself from the artificial hold that these foreign extremist ideologies seemingly have on someone such as you.

Us by way of our elders, historians, scholars and personal scholarship, are able to point you towards the path towards freeing yourself from these foreign extremist ideologies from hours that don't end, yet, ultimately, noone can free you except you.

SamgoldBaba:
He is as real as we are

The Jesus character is fictional.

Assuming you have any proof to the contrary, provide them here and cease arguing pointlessly.

SamgoldBaba:
He is as real as we are

Prove it.

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ.

I'm guessing you don't know that the character isn't real and as such, I'm asking you to provide us with the proof of this fictional character of yours.

The logic here is for you to free yourself from the artificial hold these foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric have on you. Noone else can free you, but you.

Give it a go, since you clearly insist that your fictional character is real as you, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Go!

Africans are the ones who created all the better things in life, as in, it's our parents who did, it wasn't anyone else.

Everyone else on the globe[sic] are exploiting the legacies that our parents created for us whilst some of us are being flustered by these foreign extremist ideologies and as such are somewhat disconnected from the reality of things.

We'll keep saying this until our enemies turn blue in the face; until our Brothers and Sisters that this applies to learn to snap out of the artificial hold that have seemingly been placed on them by these foreign extremist ideologically based narratives.

Ken4Christ:
He loves you enough to die for you...

Jesus is a fictional character.

As in, there never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ.

The story is based on a combination of fakery and falsehood.

You are better off taking into consideration the great legacy that came about due to the brilliance of our parents and feed off of that in order to make our world a better place, opposed to giving your soul away to fictional characters that were created by foreign extremist ideologues.

mmsen:
It is objectively THE WORST.

Totally agree with you.

wirinet:
That's was the original intention of our "competitors", to distract us with stupid religious beliefs, so they can take control of our resources and mind, thereby rendering us helpless.

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