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FRANCISTOWN:
This is according to Christianity that Yahweh created the world.
According to the Yoruba religion. Olodumare sent Orunmila and Obatala to create the world.
According to Pastafarians, the Flying Spaghetti created the world
According to Ancient Hinduism religion. Brahmna created the world.
According to Islam, Allah created the world.
Now my question is, who really created the world among all these gods? And what's the proof that such god did

Foreigners came to our continent, found out about our divine principles and went on to call them God.

Hence, the African Gods are the only true and proper ones.

The Orisa are God.

Sopona is a god.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God.

yemmywesey:
Weting consign me,

Am ok with my IFA belief.

Ogbo'to

Wetin conscern me?

Am ok with my IFA belief.

Wetin co-sign me?

The Gods, they co-sign me.

Peace and Blessings to you and yours.

Btw, Totally agree with your contributions here.

Steep:
....not even the Roman empire could stop Christianity.

The Romans are the ones who invented Christianity, yet, you continue to perpetuate a false representation of history.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, mining, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

Maynmann:
Accordance to Which evidence?

You are the one that has no single knowledge on this topic.
You can’t “believe” in evolution, only a dummy does that.

According to Darwin research didn’t he provide evidence to his claims, where did he ask you to “believe”?, and even biologists has further established the fact, go back and read!

You ought to go and ask those who subscribe to the said foreign extremist ideology.

The only accurate narratives regarding our history are the ones determined by our historians, scholars and academics, all other narratives are false and invalid.

Assuming you want to start a thread on this topic then, feel free to tag me and we can get it popping, however, I will not allow you to derail this thread.

Now, reel yourself back in and cease arguing aimlessly.

Maynmann:
Accordance to Which evidence?

You can’t “believe” in evolution lol
What’s the evolution theory

Our parents invented all the better things in life.

These things aren't readily available to our understanding due to foreign psychological probes, socio-scientific instruments that aim to take us all away from our reality, and these are the reasons we ought to bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, mining, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously and use these knewly found skills to make our world a better place for ourselves and the leaders of tomorrow.

Maynmann:
Accordance to Which evidence?

You can’t “believe” in evolution lol
What’s the evolution theory? Do you even understand what you are saying?!

You haven't a clue what you're on about.

Give yourself a wobble.

The theory of Evolution is as much a foreign extremist ideology as them all.

Assuming you don't know what this is, then you'd Research Darwin and come back here to make proper sense.

Maynmann:
Most Europeans are Christians, Roman Catholism

For me, I don't subscribe to either the foreign extremist ideologies nor the Evolution theory.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law , mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, mining, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

Maynmann:
Most Europeans are Christians, Roman Catholism

I will give you that, eventhough it's false, it may sounds good to you, however, in actuality, in accordance with the evidence, most Europeans believe in the Evolution Theory.

Its possible for me to make these conclusions, as these findings are based on the results of experimental research, these aren't based on theoretical theories.

Our team of analysts spent over 1000 hours on the streets of European and American cities interviewing the specific demographic and eventhough, there was a few pockets that professed their Catholic faith, overwhelming from the Latino community it must be said, the majority spoke about the Evolution theory.

Maynmann:
No, most europeans are converting to islam.

That's untrue.

Most Europeans don't subscribe to neither Christianity nor Islam, most are 'free thinkers'.

The irony is that its us Africans that amount for some of the largest amount of following in either of these foreign extremist ideologies.

These are the reasons that anyone could come up with what you spouting here.

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gameova:
Accept Chris.

You cannot give unto someone, the precise thing that one already has.

The term 'Christ' is an adaptation of African intellectual properties.

Africans invented all the better things in life


Jesus is a fictional character.

You are better off accepting the legacy that came about due to the brilliance of our parents and feed off of that in order to make our world a better place opposed to giving your soul away to fictional characters that were created by foreign extremist ideologues.

No, Knowledge isn't light and ignorance isnt Darkness.

Stop it!

Knowledge, is knowledge.

Ignorance, is ignorance.

It's important to note, outside of 'Light' & 'Darkness' in the physical sciences being the opposite of one another, there's no other real kind of comparisons that exist out there.

These foreign extremist ideologies are making a mockery out of you. Imagine the nonsensical gibberish your pushing.

RealJesusPikin:
According to John Tyndall, “Knowledge once gained casts a light beyond its own immediate boundaries”. Knowledge is the light that shines in our minds and causes creativity, development, growth, civilization,awareness e.t.c. The word used for light in Greek is the same word used for knowledge. The light is from this which means both light and metaphor for knowledge. Knowledge is the only power that dispel or wipe out ignorance, just as light drives away darkness. The solution to every problem in life is knowledge. As light over power darkness, so knowledge over power ignorance.

The gap between African and the developed world is simply (knowledge) light. It is knowledge that empower man to dominate both living and non – living things which are bigger and stronger than man. From historical, scientific, medical to geographical discoveries man has been able to enjoy this earth to the level he could have knowledge of, while dominance of ignorance has led to problems such as disaster, diseases and the likes.

The same word used in Greek for ignorance is also the word used for darkness. Darkness is skotia, meaning both darkness and the metaphor for ignorance. Ignorance is therefore darkness. To say someone is living a life of darkness, it means the person has not gotten light to lighten his/her path of life. It also means the person lack knowledge which is light.
God entrusted the earth in our care to manage (Gen.1:26-28). Without knowledge we can’t fulfill that responsibility towards God, ourselves and the earth. No one was created by God to live in ingnorance. Living a life of ignorance is like living in a house without light for a whole day, due to lack of light (knowledge) you will not be able to cook, eat,read or move about freely, the whole day will be fruitless. When a Christian walk in darkness he/she will experience failure, restrictions, limitations, poverty, disappointment, lack and can never go forward in life. Hosea 4:6 “God said my people perish due to lack of knowledge (light)”. William Ellery Channing said “Every mind was made for growth, for knowledge and its nature is sinned against when it is doomed to ignorance”.
Read full content here>>>[url] https://christvic.com/knowledge-is-light-and-ignorance-is-darkness/[/url]

Nonsense.

When you refuse to study history and are content on spouting nonsensical gibberish that's without merit, coupled with the fact that you seem to have a complete and utter warped understanding of African history.

Africans invented all the better things in life.

This is from where you ought to have begun.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

Kobojunkie:
If I don't first subscribe to it, why would I wish to subject myself to the change/adjustments necessary to "attain" any of it?

You first need to know what it is that your questioning.

Assuming you won’t answer my question then it’s no point.

My job isn’t to canvas you to become a virtuous person, that isn’t what I’m here for.

So, knock it off.

You can argue all you want, I stand by what was said.

I’m here to support all the serious minded academics and scholars in an attempt to push forward with making our world a better place for ourselves and the leaders of tomorrow.

Kobojunkie:
The dictionary definition of virtue which you provided earlier works as far as a definition is concerned.

However, my question was, who defines the standard itself? For you or for me? I don't subscribe to the same standard of virtue that you hold to. And what you consider a high moral standard may be nothing to me.

Virtues aren’t something one does or doesn’t subscribe to, but levels to attain.

I’m amazed that you seem unaware of these kind of things.

Kobojunkie:
I don't agree with that either.

Your agreement or non agreement to the facts doesn’t make it change.

Kobojunkie:
Who defines the so-called high moral standard? By whose or what measure are these moral standards declared as high or low?

What’s your point.

Define virtue.

You cannot seem to accept when you get things wrong

It seems you’re the one not paying attention, when it’s actually free.

Kobojunkie:
It does not take wealth to positively impact the lives of [/i]

That’s not what was said, the point was that it easier for a powerful and or wealthy person to pass as being righteous than it is to pass as virtuous.

Another point construed

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=123284627]…to the fact that virtue is defined by the individual.

That’s untrue.

It’s seems to me, you’re missing the point.

Virtue
•behaviour showing high moral standards.

Virtues aren’t supposed to be defined by the individual.

Benevolence is a virtue, Propriety is a virtue, Wisdom is a virtue, trustworthiness, righteousness these are deemed virtues.

Virtuousness allows the bearer to tick these boxes, a level of attainment.

Kobojunkie:
In my opinion, it all depends on the goal one has set for self. Virtuousness has to do with meeting with one's private ideas as regards morality. Such an achievement may not hold tangible value as far as the next man or even society itself as it is born of selfish leaning ideas in the case of the individual. Righteousness on the other hand has more to do with doing works that directly impact, meaningfully, the lives of others. While a virtuous man might also be a stingy man, a righteous man reaches beyond himself to help others around him.

Wielded correctly, Righteousness and Virtuousness are both great tools for our betterment.

Kobojunkie:
In my opinion, it all depends on the goal one has set for self. Virtuousness has to do with meeting with one's private ideas as regards morality. Such an achievement may not hold tangible value as far as the next man or even society itself as it is born of selfish leaning ideas in the case of the individual. Righteousness on the other hand has more to do with doing works that directly impact, meaningfully, the lives of others. While a virtuous man might also be a stingy man, a righteous man reaches beyond himself to help others around him.

Indeed, now you see the reasoning the text was delivered that way, that way, these arguments wouldn’t be necessary.

Virtuousness is something one will attain, righteousness is something one earns. For instance, using your analogy, a wealthy and or powerful person could easily pass as righteous person, the same can’t be said for those who aim to attain virtuousness.

It doesn’t matter how powerful or rich one may be, it’s either one is virtuous or they aren’t. It’s a level one must attain before being qualified as such, and it isn’t anyone qualifying one as such, as much as one’s deeds and actions that are and will.

Kobojunkie:
RIghteousness is not virtuousness though! Righteousness is based on works as defined by a standard whereas virtuousness has more to do with morality which people can have different individual ideas of.

True, I suppose one was to pick or choose, I concede to the fact that righteousness and virtuousness don’t quite mean the same thing.

I suppose to have added ‘or’ instead of the ‘forward sash’ would’ve been more reader-friendly. Would that have conveyed the point correctly? Not quite.

These are two high calibre conflicting school of thoughts, is it ‘righteousness’ or “virtuousness” ?

That has alway been the question, an old aged question at that, argument that keeps gathering momentum on a daily basis.

For me, it’s always Virtuousness over everything, however, I’m not lost to the points put across by the advocates of, “for them, it’s Righteousness that they sought”.

Virtuousness is always a nice and fun quality to have.

I hope that clears that up.

As it’s being established beyond any doubt, the fact that there are various characters from back in the days who are said by their followings, to have died and resurrected, in my mind there are only a handful that could even be really mentioned as to be qualified as such, our great God being one of these entities that befits such qualification and there’s RE.

Re performs splendour and might, daily strengthening our very existence just being there in a precious humble.

Our parents/guardians installed these standards into our pysche and becomes a fabric in one’s understanding, outside of our general upbringing, there really doesn’t need a dude standing round the block telling us this, that or the other for one to realise the need to uphold virtues as one’s standard.

Our parents/guardians, siblings, elders and heroes already educated us in these standard to a perfection.

Totally agree with OP here, nobody needs Jesus and foreign extremist ideologies to be righteous/virtuous

Teach!

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies, and concentrate our focus on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, mining, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

Discard of foreign extremist fantasy and instead redirect all our focus towards reality.

triplechoice:
Christianity should be a mirror for you to see that there a lot of things in your own religion, Islam, that doesn't also makes sense.

Both religion are the same. The only difference is what is contained in the different religious text.

If Muslims were using the Bible, you would be defending what's contained in it and arguing as you're doing now, that God sacrificing his son makes sense.

You wouldn't see anything wrong in it just as wouldn't see anything wrong in an angel dictating the Koran to Muhammad. You accept without any evidence that it actually happened.

Each time you come up with a thread like this, I always ask myself why can't this man see that he his making a mockery of the same thing he is doing.
Christianity and Islam are abrahamic religions: the same thing but different narratives.

Teach!

Totally, the Jesus character is a fictitious one, there's no way on God's good planet that a fictional character could've done any such thing.

As in, a fictional character cannot die for anyone, cannot die, period.

Since the character never existed in the first instance.

You're completely and utterly accurate in the determination of the topic, nice one OP.

However, as stated by fellow NLanders, Christianity isn't the only foreign extremist ideology operating on the continent.

Frankly, Christianity and Islam are the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.