Not "God" (as τὸν Θεόν): ὁ Λόγος is not presented as identical to τὸν Θεόν (the specific deity). The use of πρὸς τὸν Θεόν and the qualitative Θεὸς indicate distinction, with ὁ Λόγος being "with" the deity and sharing divine qualities, not being the deity itself.
Not clearly "a god": While Θεὸς could be translated as "a god," the anarthrous construction and context suggest a qualitative sense ("divine" rather than portraying ὁ Λόγος as a separate divine entity. The philosophical tone leans toward Λόγος as a principle with divine attributes, not a distinct "god."
Not "the same as the God": The text explicitly distinguishes ὁ Λόγος from τὸν Θεόν through πρὸς and the structure, ruling out identity.
The author portrays ὁ Λόγος as a distinct entity, existing in the beginning, in close relation to τὸν Θεόν (the deity), and possessing divine qualities (Θεὸς, "divine".
The best translation, as previously provided, is: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the deity, the Word was divine. This was in the beginning with the deity." This reflects ὁ Λόγος as divine in nature but not identical to τὸν Θεόν.
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON
I beg to differ on this. Jesus is both the Son of God and God the Son. This is a truth that only the Spiritually minded will grasp.
Globad: It's disrespectful to the majesty of God to think that the omnipotent God could not get something done unless he had to descend into a lowly human form.
Up till today, it doesn't make sense in the older Judaism.
Such a thinking was concocted by Trinitarians and is not part of any statement directly credited to Jesus in the canonical gospels.
Of course the gospel of John and the writings of Paul are another matter entirely
Having split God into three, I don't know why Christianity is still being described as a monotheistic religion. It is a polytheistic religion
Will you guys stop this!!!! If you don't understand something. At least keep quiet and pass. Must you put down every garbage that comes to your mind. I'm just shocked that humans with intelligent minds would dare to argue what their natural mind can't grasp. Please stop!!!. Save yourself from Blasphemy this early morning
Despite the nred for materialism today which has tarnished the image of our ladies today. I still believe ladies who love from the heart like this Pastor's wife still exist.
jaephoenix: U r the ignorant one. What is the problem with lab grown food and GMO food
Bros I beg you in the name of the most high that I worship. Please don't quote me again. Keep enjoying your GMO food and leave us to enjoy our natural food in peace. Since you've decided to remain in your ignorance. Stay there and leave us alone.I don't wanna waste my arguments otherwise we woulda argue this out but I can't with you on this. When you have good intelligent banter I'll contribute and we'll both learn.
blaise26abj: Funny how nothing has changed till today . Black people being “exported” for their skill set . A young and vibrant African population being enticed to come to their countries further depleting our Human Resources . The damage they did and are still doing to Africa will echo through the ages . I pray a generation will arise and destroy the chain . It is NOT an error that there is no first world country in African
Ain't it amazing that a Continent that was an Ancient World Power. Where Civilization began and thrived is now a Continent that produces third world countries. It's amazing.
It's a sad tale indeed. The handwriting was already on the wall when Mobutu betrayed him but he didn't learn from that. Very sad indeed. Reminds me of how our local chiefs helped in betraying their own kinsmen and women to the whites because of a bottle of square face(brandy) and looking glass!
When I see the Beyonces, Terence Howard and Snoop Dogg to name a few I remember our distant forebears who were sold as slaves and their descendants.
only they'll listen and keep the advice. Instead they'll argue blindly with you and wonder at your "Ignorance" as if they're the more informed ones. Rada rada
OKOATA: Thanks for this. You sure no what you are saying. Most of the angels locked up were those who were disobedient at the times of Noah and especially those who go against the Order of God. It's like people who commit sin here on earth and sentenced to prison. It doesn't mean they are powerful, those demons are paying for being evil and disobedient and when they are being released, they are striped off their powers and relegated to more lower ranking angels and they are finally sent back to their territory. God can't destroy demons cos firstly they are angels, they are only called demons because that's their punishment for being bad. They are demoted and sent back to their territory to become lower ranking angels at the end. God won't kill or destroy them cos they come from God's body himself.
It's the Truth and Truth is Absolute which is why it's stupid to argue it.
jaephoenix: Yes GMOs can be nutritionally better than organic foods. My problem with you lots is you never research. You depend on others for information
Amazing!!! I'd have love to know where you got this information from but...I realized that you simply don't know or you've been preset in your mind to believe delusions. Chai!!! Chai!!! It's so sad. Before you present an answer always think before you write. Where in God's name is a GMO food better than the original?[/color]
Dogalmighty17: There is a reason why God kept certain demons locked up. If arch angel Michael could handle them, why is God having them locked up?
You're missing the point brother. Jude 1:6 or so talks about Angels who left their habitation and are reserved in chains awaiting the Judgement day. They were locked up not because they're too strong. They misbehaved. That doesn't prove they're stronger or more powerful than ArchAngel Michael or Archangel Gabriel. Are there any Demon hierarchy more than the ones I listed. Principalities are the highest hierarchy of demons. They control nations. Yet they ain't stronger than Angel Michael. You seem to forget that this Angel is not those ones who sing and Praise God in Heaven 247. This Angel...is fierce, formidable and can stand up to any demon anytime. And He now has the backing of the Creator on top of everything!!! Abeg brother. This your argument no hold water. Do you even know how many spiritual battles have been fought over your head and is being fought over you right now? Give thanks to God almighty for giving His Angels charge over you. I know there are books on Angels. I've read some myself but I'm basing my argument on what the Bible says.
Dogalmighty17: That book of Moses eh! Guy, I fear that book. No be to summon the spirits be the problem. Na to remember how to send them back. If you even as much as fail to pronounce the incantations correctly, the spirits won't go. Spirits hate being idle. If you summon them, you must give them an assignment in the language they understand. They become very violent if you don't tell them what to do. They'll ask you why you summoned them in the first place. They are willing to do everything you ask of them since by summoning them, they are bound to you. But they are low level demons. There are powerful, high level demons you can call upon. You are too low to summon them. They'll hear you but not show themselves, though you can sense their presence. Those are territorial demons. Very ruthless personalities
I am careful about playing some kinds of Hollywood movies in my home. Some of the incantations in these movies are real. And the spirits hear them and come into your home. But you aren't aware that spirits are now dwelling in your home! But the incantations in the movie you watched, summoned them! With time, things start going wrong around you. Remember that I said spirits hate being idle.
I remember an experience I had with a book called The Complete Book of Fortune. There was a ritual in that book I attempted to carry out. The ritual was to show me how my future wife will look like. I did exactly what a particular chapter in the book said. A mirror behind me, a candle before me in a dark room. The words had barely left my mouth before I saw images forming in the mirror as I turned around. The way I bolted hard from that room. I hit my shin on the door frame and till today that pain remains. I later burnt the book.
Some pastors in Nigeria use that Seven Books of Moses. That book is not for the faint of heart. Some of the tongues some pastors speak are actually incantations giving demonic spirits assignments. You see people falling under 'anointing' you see 'healings and miracles'. But they are not from God.
In Egypt, Moses performed his miracles and the Pharaohs men did theirs too. We are told that King Saul went to the witch of Endor who then summoned the spirit of Samuel and it came up from the ground. All this happened by incantations in a language spirits understand. This language is the language we were speaking before the tower of Babel and God then gave us different languages.
I'm not writing this to scare you. I'm writing this to let you know that you can't afford to be careless about your spiritual life and your relationship with God. Your bible never told you that satan and the trillions of demons under him and some with him are not powerful. I used with him because there are demons more powerful than Satan himself. Satan was only a worship leader. Demons more powerful than angels Gabriel and Michael exist. Those are the demons God has kept locked up but they will soon be released. They don't answer to Satan.
If you want to take God seriously, please do. You will be doing yourself a lot of good.
The Bible says we wrestle not against Flesh and Blood but against Principalities Powers Rulers Spiritual wickedness in high places these are hierarchies of demons but none of them are stronger than Archangels Michael and Gabriel. Do you even know who Archangel Michael is. He's the Chief Angel of Warfare. He was the one who ran the devil out of Heaven when war broke out there and He threw the devil out. If the Devil together with his hordes couldn't stand against Michael with his guys what makes you so sure there are demons more powerful than Angel Michael and Gabriel?
Oshin56: that means you don't believe in reincarnation?
Why should I believe in a lie?!!! The Bible says it is appointed unto men once to die and after that it's the Judgement. That's the Gospel truth. To accept a thing as Reincarnation and all its attendant delusions is to believe a lie. Unfortunately you only get to realize this after you die. I'll appreciate if you repent now before it's too late
econome: THIS PRESENT LIFE YOU ARE LIVING IS THE REWARD OF THE PREVIOUS LIFE YOU LIVED.
AND THIS PRESENT LIFE YOU'RE LIVING NOW WILL BE REWARD(KARMA WAY) OF YOUR NEXT LIFE.
NEW HUMANS ARE NOT CREATED, WE ARE GOING AND COMING BACK.
IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT SO, WHERE ARE THE SOULS OF THE PEOPLE THAT DID GOOD AND THE PEOPLE THAT DID BAD 2000 YEARS AGO, STILL WAITING FOR JUDGEMENT?
SO WHAT IS ESSENCE OF DOING GOOD IF YOUR SOUL WILL HAVE TO WAIT OVER 5000 YEARS BEFORE GETTING GOOD JUDGEMENT?
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY UPON US'ALL 👍🏻
You know why I don't agree with this line of thought? There's no such thing as reincarnation. Forget what you've seen or heard. Wish I could argue this but I won't. Truth is Absolute. Every time an information is shared and it generates variables like what you just shared now. It could only mean one thing: A lie or a halftruth.
One thing is certain and very absolute. Every soul that's been dead for the last 5000 years will resurrect when Jessential comes again. The good ones will arise and step into their rest while the bad ones will arise, be judged and enter Damnation. This is Truth as the Bible says it in Revelation.
When we die, one of two things happen. If we confessed our sins and made it right with God, our bodies die and decays to replenish the earth but our spirits goes back to God. If we remain in sin and don't confess our sins and accept Jesus as our personal Lord and savior, our bodies die and replenish the earth but our spirit goes to hell and will be resurrected at the last day to stand before Jesus at the White Throne to give account for his or work on earth. This is the absolute truth. Whether you agree to it or not. Everyone will die and will appear before Jesus. What will determine our final place is if we alligned with Him and did His will of sharing the Gospel or not.
This is an appeal. Make it right with Jesus today and be counted worthy of Him. Your arguments, logic and beliefs won't save you if it's not in line with His Will for all flesh which us that they repent and turn from their wicked and deluded ways and get right with God.
Oshin56: Elijah is the one that came as John and if you don't believe this that means you don't believe in the word of God in the bible that says every souls will die
Na wa for una o Next thing you'll say is you have proof. Na wa!!!
You are just pouring what you have read, and choose to believe.
Oga ni don't bother arguing with people who've been deluded. How can humans be a Vibration? You better guard your mind before he converts to start believing in the occult
While the cycle of life is Vanity. You can chart your course while on this earth. Fear God Fulfill Purpose Be Born again Live righteously Make Peace with all men Be generous Leave a lasting legacy. Aside all these. You just came, saw and didn't conquer.
DoctorStanley: No, but in extreme situations or starvation, it is better than starving to death. But the point is, the main spin of the whole thing is to tarnish Bill Gates. That's the only thing certain evil elements are interested in
Doctor I'd rather starve to death than eating something not meant for humans. Is that what we've been reduced to? That aside. Doctor you can't tell me that he's not aware of what the money he gave the business was to be used for. It just don't fly. Be very honest Doctor. If someone approached you to raise money for a project and he or she needs 200 grand which 200k and you could only raise 50grand won't you wanna know what he or she wanna use 200grand for before deciding to raise what you could afford. This situation is just like what I just painted. Mr Bill Gates knew what his 10 million was gonna be used for. Stop making it sound like the Billionaire is innocent. He isn't!!!!
yinkeys: Thé doctors & pharmaceuticals do The bidding of billionaires Are you aware they lied about Covid vaccines ? They forced people to take it These same people made the Covid 🦠 Gullible people everywhere
So true Imagine the Doctor saying that the company approached Bill Gates to help them raise 50 million and He raised 10 million out of his money to help fund this business. I made him realize that Mr Bill Gates must be aware of what his money is used for but he defended the man
jaephoenix: Who told u this butter is unhealthy? What is all this
Define it all you want. As long as it's not made the natural way. To me it's unhealthy. End..Of...Story.. Don't bother arguing with me cos there's no argument that you're gonna present that'll fly with me in this instance. It looks like butter Tastes like butter Smells like butter Does it add more nutritional value to the body?!! What nonsense. Next thing you'll tell me the GMO meat now out is better than the real one. Don't even start with your argument. Keep enjoying your Genetically modified nonsense and leave us to stick with our dairy product version while we still have it.
WeAfrique: If someone dies… but knows they’ll be back in three days… is that really a sacrifice?
Think about it. The power of sacrifice is in the finality — in losing something forever. But if Jesus knew His death was temporary, was it still a sacrifice? Or was it… just a weekend trip to the grave?
That’s a question many Christians avoid, but let’s be honest — it’s a valid one.
If I lay down my life to save my community, I don't get it back later. I've lost it forever. End of story!
Just like Princess Inikpi of the Igala kingdom who gave her life in order to save her people from imminent conquer by the enemy. Till today, Inikpi remains dead. Her sacrifice was final. She's never getting her life back. She permanently gave it up for her people.
But Jesus knew his death was only TEMPORARY. He knew he would rise up in only three days and go to heaven. Where was the finality in that? Were was the sacrifice?
Something a natural logical mind would never understand. His death was for the purpose of the redemption of man back to God. He gave his life so He can reconcile mankind back to God. It was a kind of investment. He was sinless and to redeem man to God He had to pay the penalty of Sin which is death and rise again to finalize the ultimate victory over Sin. If He had just died and not rise again that won't have been a sacrifice. You don't reason this truth with Logical lens like the guy in the video is tryna do. His Sacrifice is a spiritual truth. A natural and carnal man can never understand. I've said my bit
Ain't it amazing that the resurrection of Jesus is even a subject of debate? First of His purpose of coming to earth was to redeem man from the fallen state and restore to man what he lost by reconciling us back to God. (2nd Corinthians 5:18 and 19) He decided to come back from the grave to prove his supremacy over death. You'll never understand His ultimate sacrifice that's why you can come up with this deluded argument of yours. I'm just passing by. So for everyone here bothering to argue this very post is really funny and sad. Jesus death and Resurrection is the Ultimate sacrifice and Victory over the devil and it's hold on man. It even got the host of satan's horde by surprise that had they known, they would've thwarted His death.