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Health › Re: Nigerian Doctor Suspended In Canada Over Sexual Comment (Photo) by anonimi: 4:13pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
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Health › Re: Nigerian Doctor Suspended In Canada Over Sexual Comment (Photo) by anonimi: 4:05pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Proffdada: Actually, you're the one exhibiting ignorance. He can be under duress of getting deported after the allegations. He's innocent until proven otherwise. Don't jump into conclusions Did you read that there was a TRIAL already? Stokes said his client has not yet decided on whether to appeal but looks forward "to following up with their penalties and getting back to work as soon as he possibly can." https://i.quoteaddicts.com/media/quotes/2/95287-evil-triumph-good-men-do-nothing-quote.jpg |
Health › Re: Nigerian Doctor Suspended In Canada Over Sexual Comment (Photo) by anonimi: 3:34pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Proffdada: and what part of MAYBE you don't understand?  There was absolutely no basis for your "maybe" conspiracy theory. Okay. In each of the four separate complaints, Owolabi was found to have shown a lack of respect for the dignity and privacy of his patients, constituting professional misconduct. "He's very disappointed," his lawyer Paul Stokes said after Owolabi left without comment Monday. "But he understands the reasoning of the panel." Stokes said his client has not yet decided on whether to appeal but looks forward "to following up with their penalties and getting back to work as soon as he possibly can." Stokes responded in Owolabi's defence that eight months would be "excessive." He proposed a suspension of three to six months, and stressed that his client's technical skills as a doctor were not in question.
Stokes asked the tribunal to put inappropriate comments, hugging and kissing in the context of far more serious possible sexual offences. "This is a good physician," he told the panel at Monday's sanctioning hearing. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b2/07/3b/b2073b69c249cbcb3cc99587e81157ce.jpgwww.nairaland.com/attachments/4263972_candidate168717520150430101652_jpeg5d095e7c3dfe8b5bf465a64450383689 |
Politics › Re: El-Rufai Registers His Son In A Public School In Kaduna (Photo) by anonimi: 3:25pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
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Politics › Re: El-Rufai Registers His Son In A Public School In Kaduna (Photo) by anonimi: 3:24pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Has El-Rufai ensured that ALL the children in Kaduna state are enrolled in schools instead of roaming the streets as almajiris to be unleashed on innocent corpers in fulfilment of their fatwa to "soak dogs and baboons in blood" when they lose elections  That is when change would have started with him. [img] http://2.bp..com/-cVR-FSxVhk0/VK-k3wYjd0I/AAAAAAABfb0/X_fm7vCDT70/s1600/DONT%2BWAIT%2BSERIES.jpg[/img] |
Health › Re: Nigerian Doctor Suspended In Canada Over Sexual Comment (Photo) by anonimi: 3:17pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Proffdada: He maybe framed though, I don't trust any of those whites who feel intimidated by foreigners taking their jobs  Perhaps the sexual predator doctor should have worked with others to ensure his own country is good enough so he does not have to emigrate to Canada so he could be framed by "those whites who feel intimidated by foreigners". What do you think Problem solved, not so?In case you missed the part below or could not understand what it means, let me re-post so you can read slowly and digest it for its full implication vis-a-vis your conspiracy theory. 5minsmadness: Owolabi's suspension won't be good news for patients who rely on him. A shortage of physicians in Labrador West has already been blamed for many residents waiting for emergency room care at the Labrador West Health Centre. https://bitsofwisdom.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2-huge-lies_small.jpgwww.nairaland.com/attachments/3504410_internet_jpeg8efe841e125b21f5a740dc528a146d09 |
Health › Re: Nigerian Doctor Suspended In Canada Over Sexual Comment (Photo) by anonimi: 3:11pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
5minsmadness: I heard he's a very playful doctor and didnt mean any harm. Anyway, he carried the playfulness abroad where they dont play, see gobe  thorpido: Yes,he took the playfulness too far especially if he attended medical school in Nigeria.In Nigeria,medical doctors(lecturers) make a lot of jokes while teaching medical students and they don't see anything wrong with it but abroad,those people don't play with stuff like that. Did you read where they said he hugged and KISSED the women  Wetin be playful inside that one? Shey na the hug be joke ni abi na the kiss? www.nairaland.com/attachments/3043814_facebook20151105005801_jpeg1027baba4e35e791f3661e85d47d5487 |
Politics › Re: POLITICS OF BETRAYAL: The Unfair Criticism And Treatment Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu by anonimi: 2:39pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
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Politics › Re: POLITICS OF BETRAYAL: The Unfair Criticism And Treatment Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu by anonimi: 1:48pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Goke7: So after killing the common adversary, what happens next? You begin to turn against yourselves again ba? Oga its a ridiculous cycle. Its up to jagaban to decide what he actually wants . Interesting times indeed, this one sef wan pass donald trump vs hilary clinton Just shows you that OUR politicians, whom WE allow to represent us, are all about what they can STEAL from us and not about DIFFERENT ideologies of the best way to serve our collective interest. www.nairaland.com/attachments/3084794_DumbPeople_jpg287f2b4d3ead2f536f99f92cbca9c590 |
Politics › Re: POLITICS OF BETRAYAL: The Unfair Criticism And Treatment Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu by anonimi: 1:43pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
hyperflex: When this thing happened in Ogun state and the real ACN members were sidelined by the ANPP thru the manipulation of Onifila Ibikunle Amosun and the matter was reported to Tinubu he laughed it off and didn't do anything about it. Now the same mistake is biting him on the ass. ACN sold out to the incoming ANPP or CPC (both party are the same) then gave them key slots like the presidency n chairman in Oyegun. Why won't they take power or downgrade Tinubu!? Well I see a new party but time still dey. Will Tinubu allow himself to be ridiculed by those that once Bowed to him? Did Ogbeni Ojuyobo not ridicule those whom he bowed to before in order to gain political power? Not only did he ridicule them, he even cursed and abused them. People like Pa Dawodu, Gbenga Daniel and even the late sage Awo plus all his family. Haba!!! Anyway karma is a b.i.t.c.h. https://www.mikeangelonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/BolaTinubu.jpgBabasessy: Awo Family Without An Awo By Sam Omatseye (The Offensive Article)
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The Awolowo rebirth in the Southwest has inspired gongs, songs and rhetoric of sorts. But they have missed one point.
It occurred to me in Abeokuta last week amidst the big crowds and euphoria of the swearing-in of Senator Ibikunle Amosun as governor. In all the states from Lagos to Edo, where Awo has witnessed ideological resurgence, hardly a single family member has played a role.
So we have an Awo family without an Awo. That is an irony. But history overwhelms us with this sort of twist. Obafemi Awolowo toiled for his reputation. His roots were lowly, he toiled to school both home and abroad, launched into careers in law, business, journalism and eventually politics. He carved a niche for himself, and became the first methodical and charismatic leftist in our history. Other leftists abounded but they did not inspire comparable drama and following.
He faced tribulations, went to jail, failed in elections, won a few, but he imprinted his ideas and legacy in the country, and no single mortal has beaten him in the history of this country. His greatest achievement was in the area of ideas, and that was how he fashioned a family. Most families are born of biology but his issued from ideology. That family suffered with him.
In a spoof of Jesus Christ, these were the men who followed him in his teachings, and endured with him in his temptations. So he formed a kingdom for them in the Southwest, in the old Western Region, presiding over his projects, his legacies and people.
In all of these, the family he had was not his flesh and blood. In another spoof of Christ, who were his family anyway? Those who were with him must be counted as his family. So, I combed in the ambience of Babatunde Raji Fashola (SAN), and I found none. I went to Ogun, I frisked the crowd under Amosun’s bower, hardly any. Around Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola in Osun, I could not lay a finger. With Governor Kayode Fayemi in Ekiti, where are the forbears of Awo? Yet, I can hear the chants of Awo. Hardly in any of the inaugural speeches or any of their other public intervention would you miss the philtre and filter of Awo from these gentlemen. To parody Novelist Joseph Conrad, they are the sparks from Awo’s sacred fire, the messengers of the might within the man.
Already all of them are pursuing the legacy ideas of Awo: free education, free health services, infrastructural development, urban renewal and economic engineering.
Lagos has posted itself as the John the Baptist. The others are putting up valiant efforts, and the world of course is watching to see how well they will perform. It will call for great work, resourcefulness and cooperation. They are the real Awoists, and Awo was a man of rigour and vigour.
The Awo son that many expected to take after the father was Olusegun, who unfortunately died in a car crash. We shall never know if he could have pulled it off. But the others have not shown much of the paterfamilias’ brio and depth. In the past decade, under this republic, they have blended with the wrong crowd. Even H.I.D, hobnobbed with Alao-Akala, who brought illiteracy to governance; with Oyinlola who turned the grace of office into a hell-hole of despots; with Daniel who could not arrest his quick fall into megalomania.
I wrote once that this woman whom Awo once described as the jewel of inestimable value has lost value to his cause. If he came back to life, he would have committed the extraordinary act of divorce after death. Even his newspaper, The Tribune, has so stumbled and fallen that it swims in Awo’s vomit.
Groucho Max, one of the funniest satirists in American history, said of a man that he got his looks from his father. Then he quipped, “He was a plastic surgeon.” That means the son is not his real son, or he did not inherit his natural looks. Ideologically, when we talk of Awo’s family, the chief inheritor is Asiwaju Bola Tinubu as the leader of all the others. He was the one who stuck his neck out. He could have lost his life or ended his career in politics. The so-called real Awolowos who bear his surname cannot come up for mention. They are Awolowos but not Awoists. They stabbed their father in the back. They have committed ideological parricide.
The only person that made a real try was Awolowo-Dosunmu in the early 1990s and she lost roundly. She was accused of trying to ride her father’s coattail. Political families are good for democracies. They can exemplify the high ideals of diligence, dignity, ideas, character. We have seen these in such families as the Kennedys, the Adamses, the Roosevelts, the Ghandis. They just don’t claim family. They appeal to the high ideals that endeared the families to their societies.
It’s also an irony that these families are falling into twilight. Some of them have vanished. Enoch Powell, a British MP, once gave us the famous line: “All political lives, unless they are cut off midstream at a happy juncture, end in failure because that is the nature of politics and human affairs.”
Columnist Ambassador Dapo Fafowora adverted to this idea in a recent outing, and I debated it with him afterwards. I don’t believe that a political life should be judged by how it ends but what it means. The quote is often missed by many who mistake “careers” for “lives.” A political life should be judged by its legacies. If we judged Awo by how he ended, we would look at him only as the loser to Shagari. That is why I see an intrinsic mischief in Enoch’s quote. But I would agree that political families end also in failure if you judge how they peter out and not the legacy.
Awo’s legacy is alive and well. Members of other families in flesh and blood can carry on. Immediate families tend to suffer from what an author, Noemie Emery, describes as dynastic curse. The children tend to be intimidated by the standards set by the fathers. So they just don’t want to try. They feel they cannot match them or come even close. The problem probably comes from the fathers themselves. The Adams, who produced important presidents, later gave birth to moral vagrants and drunks. The Bush daughters showed themselves as party girls when their father was contesting the political battle of his life.
But Joe Kennedy groomed his sons assiduously, and they excelled in politics. They also had a fair share of tragedies. Ted Kennedy regained his sobriety and voice in America after a season of debauchery. In Nigeria, we are seeing the Sarakis fade. A Saraki – Bukola - is wiping out the Sarakis from politics. It is a classic case of oedipal tragedy, something I predicted earlier this year on this page.
It is not late though for the flesh-and-blood Awolowos to join their father’s fold. But they must be genuine. Awo was the most important Yoruba personage in history after Oduduwa. They had stellar men like Oranmiyan, Balogun Latosa, Lisabi, Sodeke, et al. None of them had the unifying vision and organisational acumen that Awolowo gave the race. The wife, children and grandchildren should not watch others glow in his jewel without them.
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Politics › Re: Oyegun Takes Tinubu’s Case To Buhari by anonimi: 12:16pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
genetics111: I know many will come here to support nuisance. what Tinubu is saying is that due process should be follow. if not what happened to PDP will happen when they said 16 is greater than 19. Can you please confirm that he followed due process to convert Lagos and south west to Tinubu empire under Emperor Ojuyobo Why should a man expect to get what he does NOT give?Perhaps you can tell us. Or maybe for una dictionary, "due process" don get new meaning  Thanks. www.nairaland.com/attachments/2080663_olee_jpeg50ac2c9e26795655ae17af1287062b25 |
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Politics › Re: Emeka Offor's Plan To Rehabilitate Daura Library: Charity Or Eye Service? by anonimi: 8:48am On Sep 27, 2016*. Modified: 10:52am On Sep 27, 2016 |
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Politics › Re: Buhari Gets $1bn Loan From Adesina’s Led african Development Bank by anonimi: 5:27am On Sep 27, 2016 |
id911: una lies go kill una one day. Which Buhari? Adesina clearly stated after he won election that if not Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala who used her influence and ofcourse, Atiku's frienship with Jacob Zuma, he wouldn't have won. Una too dey lie Association of ProgreTHIEF Criminals, APC is all about LIES, propaganda, falsehoods and more LIES.That is what brought them into power at the federal level and it is what they believe will keep them in power until 2023.www.nairaland.com/attachments/3356469_screenshot20160131120000_jpeg639beaec46d4ced684f639998a489af2 |
Politics › Re: Buhari Gets $1bn Loan From Adesina’s Led african Development Bank by anonimi: 5:20am On Sep 27, 2016 |
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mrvitalis: We need to know what this money will be used for.. In clear terms for we can monitor it... It should not be divided into different projects... but to found 2 or three projects from beginning to end or even one project but let it be made open Our Finance minister, madam phonetics will GUESS what her boss will use it for.We are in TROUBLE, walahi. How did we get into these change chains  Zombies, why did you do this to us? www.nairaland.com/attachments/3251622_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362 |
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Politics › Re: Nigeria Offered $4.1b From Adesina Led African Devt Bank To Help Fight Recession by anonimi: 5:05am On Sep 27, 2016*. Modified: 8:53am On Sep 27, 2016 |
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Politics › Re: Achievements Of The Jonathan/Sambo Administration In Pictures by anonimi(op): 5:00am On Sep 27, 2016 |
hairyanus: I simply know that i am not an enemy of progress. To that end, good news about Nigeria is what i look out for. I also know that Bill is to big to be bought...
We shall conquer polio.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1963886_img20141221222908_jpega5ceb77b383c01e7aae6ff14909fc6c8 Royal2010: BILL Gates took the world by storm when in 1985, his company, Microsoft, introduced Windows, an operating system compatible with all personal computer software products developed on the MS-DOS system. It was a grand breakthrough which not only profited Gates and his company, but also benefited most PC users. Leveraging on the success of Windows, Gates, in 1986, took Microsoft public with an Initial Public Offering (IPO) of $21 per share. With his 45 per cent of the company’s 24.7 million shares, he became a multi-millionaire at the age of 31. A year later, he became a billionaire when Microsoft’s stock rose to $90.75 a share. In 1999, with stock prices at an all time high, Gates’ net-worth rose to $101 billion.
But Gates has proved that money does not make a man but that rather it is what man makes with money that makes him. Though programming and money brought him to the world stage, it is his eagerness to lend a hand and his heart to the vulnerable that has made him a world citizen. He is immensely wealthy and has everything money can buy, yet he closely associates with those who have nothing and is prepared to share his all with them. He goes out of his way to ensure the comfort of those who have no chance whatsoever of reciprocating his good gesture. He and his wife, Melinda, have decided to give out 95 per cent of their means to charity through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Nigeria has benefitted tremendously from this deed.
One of the issues that have attracted the attention of Gates is polio eradication. He has demonstrated unwavering commitment to see Nigeria exit the group of polio endemic countries more than any Nigerian dead or alive. He even has more information than Nigerian leaders about areas in the country where the war against polio is being lost. In a newspaper interview earlier in the year, he said, “We have some local governments that are still not as engaged in the activities as they should be. In fact, I’ll give the President, when I meet with him today (September 27, 2012), a list of those local governments, so that he can work with the governors to approve that.”
After meeting with Gates in New York, President Goodluck Jonathan returned to Nigeria and summoned governors of states still harbouring polio with a charge to stem the tide of polio in their domains. Similarly, the Presidential Task Force on Polio Eradication (PTFPE) was set up to advise and monitor polio eradication progress shortly after a meeting between Gates and President Jonathan in Abuja last year.
Gates has visited the country a number of times to sensitise the leaders to the need to put an end to the polio scourge. He even had to get the 36 state governors as well as the Federal Capital Territory minister to sign up to the Nigeria Immunization Challenge launched by his foundation earlier in the year. The Challenge set specific objectives that needed to be met during each quarter of 2012 with a view to freeing Nigerian children from the clutch of polio. The Challenge became necessary because although Nigeria made great progress in 2010, reducing polio by 95 per cent, it was not sustained in 2011, which resulted in the resurgence of the polio virus in the year with an increase in 2012. According to Global Polio Eradication Initiative in the latest edition of its Weekly Polio Update, Nigeria is the only country with ongoing transmission of all three serotypes.
As a motivation for the governors, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation stated that it would award every state that met all the necessary threshold criteria by the end of 2012 a $500,000 grant to support their top health priorities which could include priority initiatives in public health, such as malaria and tuberculosis, improving immunization, HIV prevention and treatment, or safe drinking water and hygiene promotion. In addition to the grant, the foundation promised that governors who achieved the goals would receive special recognition from Gates for their contribution to the elimination of polio. Winning governors would also be highlighted in his foundation’s communications, such as Gates’ annual letter or the foundation’s annual report, social media materials and Gates’ public engagements globally.
Gates’ foundation also teamed up with Aliko Dangote Foundation to stop the spread of polio in Kano State. Under a four-year alliance, the foundations would provide funding, equipment and technical support to the Kano State government to strengthen polio immunisation.
Apart from committing billions of Naira to the polio eradication campaign in the country, Gates has provided leadership in the campaign, showing more concern about the spread of the debilitating but preventable disease in the country than those elected to govern the people.
But his altruistic activities in Nigeria are not restricted to polio eradication; he is also committed to caging malaria, which is said to kill at least 10 Nigerian children daily. He is determined to wrest Nigerian infants, children, and pregnant women from the jaws of death occasioned by malaria. Since he set it as his objective in 2007 to see to the eradication of malaria from the world in his lifetime, Gates has been working hard to actualise this goal.
He is motivated to join hands with others to fight malaria in Nigeria and other developing countries because he is aware of the direct contribution of malaria to poverty, losses in productivity and reduced school attendance. The Gates Foundation has been involved in the distribution of insecticide-treated bed nets and effective drugs in Nigeria. He is also involved in funding research on the development and delivery of new malaria drugs, particularly for treating acute malaria in at-risk populations such as; infants, young children, and pregnant women. To actualise the malaria eradication dream, his foundation is working on developing a safe, effective and affordable vaccine against malaria.
Recently, he promised to support the development of vaccines to fight tuberculosis with $220million over a period of five years. This has resulted in the development of six possible TB vaccines that are currently being tested.
Despite the direct intervention of his foundation in the eradication of polio and malaria and the stemming of other diseases, he also has donated $1.4billion to Global Funds to Fight AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria in different countries of the world.
Just as he is committed to eradicating polio and malaria so is he resolute to boost agricultural production in the country.
Earlier in the year, he provided $12million for the International Institute of Tropical Agriculture (IITA) to improve yam production in Nigeria and Ghana. The project according to IITA would focus on increasing yields through better seed tuber supply and improving markets for the underground, edible tuber.
The multifaceted five-year effort is expected to double the incomes of three million small-holder farming families.
IITA said, “The initial focus of the project is on 200,000 smallholder farm families in Nigeria and Ghana, 90 per cent of whom cultivate less than two acres. A key priority is to ensure that affordable pest- and disease-free seed yams are available to farmers, along with storage and handling technologies that can reduce post-harvest loss.”
With the initiative, yam breeders would develop and widely disseminate new, higher-yielding, disease-resistant varieties.
In addition to that, he is also funding to the tune of $9.8m a research project into whether cereal crops can be genetically engineered with nitrogen-fixing bacteria. The essence is to create cereal crops that can access nitrogen from the air using symbiotic bacteria, reducing the need for expensive chemical fertiliser.
The focus of the investigation will be maize and the purpose of the intervention is to help small subsistence farmers.
But before we chose Gate, some Nigerians were considered for the Tribune Man of the Year alongside Bill Gates. . . .
The Gates’ edge is that through his intervention, he has been able to improve the wellbeing of many Nigerians. Without standing to gain anything, he has deployed his resources to uplift the average Nigerian. Quite a number of Nigerians are sleeping under insecticide-treated bed nets donated by Bill Gates, many are getting free anti-malaria drugs donated by him, many tuberculosis patients have access to free medical treatment through his intervention, many HIV/AIDS patients can easily access anti-retroviral drugs and the lives of many infants and their mothers have been saved from untimely death because of his input. Gates has also been able to galvanise the federal, state and local governments to take action concerning polio eradication. Very soon, the production of yam and maize would get a boost because of his commitment to increase food production and reduce poverty in the country.
If there is anyone who puts his resources and energy behind the desire for a better life for the majority in the country, it is Bill Gates. If there is a friend who will not stop at anything to put smiles on the faces of Nigeria’s poor, it is Bill Gates. This American has demonstrated his unequivocal affection for Nigeria; he even loves Nigeria more than many Nigerians. He is, therefore, our Man of the Year.
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Standing5: One good turn deserves another I guess The Dullard of Daura (DoD) does not understand that apparently, or does he  |