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Infomizer: Call me a pessimist but all I see is money claimed from one gang of thieves being handed to another gang..
*singing fela's "authority stealing"*

I agree completely, I don't see that money being used to build better hospitals in Nigeria or fix roads in NIgeria but given to greedy Nigerian politicians. I wish they would give it to Nigerian citizens who are struggling

[b]NEW DELHI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Indian authorities are on alert for the Ebola virus, the health minister said, suggesting there is a risk the deadly virus could be imported into country if the large population of Indians working in the four affected West African nations returns.

There are nearly 45,000 Indian nationals living and working in Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria - where an outbreak of the disease has killed 932 people, Health Minister Harsh Vardhan told parliament on Wednesday.

"If the situation worsens in the affected countries, there could be possibility of these Indians travelling back to India," Vardhan said. "While the risk of Ebola virus cases in India is low, preparedness measures are in place to deal with any case of the virus imported to India."

Liberia has declared a state of emergency to tackle the worst-ever outbreak of the disease, its health system is collapsing. Officials say some major airlines have halted flights to the affected countries and many expatriates are leaving.

Though the vast majority of cases are in the remote border area of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, concern over Ebola's spread grew last month when a U.S. citizen died in Nigeria of the virus after arriving from the region. A nurse who treated him also died in Lagos, Nigeria’s most populous city, and at least five other people have been isolated with symptoms.

In Saudi Arabia, a man suspected of contracting Ebola during a recent business trip to Sierra Leone died early on Wednesday in Jeddah.

Vardhan advised against all non-essential travel to the four countries, adding that authorities will screen travellers who originate from or transit through affected nations, and track them after their arrival in India.

In-flight announcements prior to landing will be done by airlines, and passengers will be informed that mandatory self-reporting is required at immigration.

The government will also set up facilities at airports and ports to manage travellers showing symptoms of the disease. Signs range from fever and intense weakness to internal and external bleeding and the incubation period is two to 21 days.

"The surveillance system would be geared up to track these travellers for four weeks and to detect them early, in case they develop symptoms," Vardhan said. "These persons would also be advised to self report in case of symptoms."

Of the 4,700 Indians in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, 300 are Central Reserve Police Force personnel - comprising largely women – serving as U.N. peacekeepers in Liberia. Nigeria has nearly 40,000 Indian citizens.

There are also 7,000 Indian troops deployed in other African nations, but not in the affected countries.

Vardhan said the troops will be informed of precautions to take to reduce the risk of contracting the disease, and returning personnel will also be tracked and monitored for symptoms.

State authorities have been instructed to designate hospitals with isolation wards for response to possible cases and to stock personal protective equipment.

The minister said the government also planned to spread public awareness about the disease through newspapers, radio and television. Information about the virus will be posted on the health ministry's website.

"Though there is no vaccine or curative therapy for Ebola virus disease, I want to apprise this house that outbreaks can be contained through early detection and isolation of cases, contact tracing and monitoring, and following rigorous procedures for infection control, if such cases were to report in our country," Vardhan said.[/b]
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/08/ebola-india-virus-west-africa-idINKBN0G80OA20140808

gawu1: To ascribed this mental set to muslims or northerners only is'nt it hypocrisy? It's our Nigerian mentality. I have seen a lot of forks prayed ernestly for a win for Argentines over Nigeria in the last world cup just because they were fans of Messi and Barcelona. So, it's not matter of religion or culture. Even a critical appraisal of the fork that brought this issue, one can judge from his tone that would favour any team other than from northern part winning caf cup. Take a look at our national team, despite Ahmed Musa's contribution to our winning the nation cup & qualification to last world cup a lot of voice mostly of southerners still suggested that he should be dropped from the last w/cup team during the selection. Musa scored two beautiful cum intelligence goals that later secured us second round yet no major headline in his credit from our southern dominated news media. Can you guess why?
Take a look at the massacre going on of palestines by the Israelis. I read a blog which tried to seek opinion of who should be blamed, Palestine or Israel. The muslims blamed israel, as the christians too laid blamed on the Palestine. The problems were that most analysis were not based on objectivity rather than religion affiliation & sentiment.
So we should not make it as if only the northerners or muslims are the guilty once on this. When America & west power conspired & dislodged undemocratically a democratically elected gov't in Egypt recently a lot of christians in nigeria couldn't hide their joy. What's you take on that? We are all guilty!!!

Based on what your saying every country(including Nigeria) has this issue, which is true, everybody is biased in the end of the day to a certain degree depending on experiences, loyalties, and etc so what your saying is inevitable However at least Nigeria didn't give up their culture completely for another culture cause of religion that you wonder if they are african any more, and that's what has affected Northern Africa, their image is of being African has been completely gone NOT Nigeria. I understand what you mean that it is more then the Northerner/Muslims and etc, which I understand and agree to a extent. Although for BBC to even bring it up and make a article questioning Northern Africa africaness, there must be some reasons for that.

[b]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has taken control of more than $480 million looted by former Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha and his associates after a court ruling, the Justice Department said on Thursday.

The money stolen during Abacha's 1993-1998 de facto presidency of the oil-rich African nation and stashed in banks around the world will be returned to the Nigerian government, the department said in a statement.

“Rather than serve his county, General Abacha used his public office in Nigeria to loot millions of dollars, engaging in brazen acts of kleptocracy,” Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell said in the statement.

U.S. District Judge John Bates in Washington ordered on Wednesday that the funds, frozen by the Justice Department in March, be forfeited to U.S. control.

The judgment includes about $303 million in two bank accounts in the British offshore center of Jersey and $144 million in two bank accounts in France. Three accounts in the United Kingdom and Ireland hold at least $27 million, the statement said.

Claims to another $148 million in four investment portfolios in the United Kingdom are pending.

Abacha, who took took power in a coup, died in 1998. Nigeria has been fighting for years to recover his money, but companies linked to the Abacha family have gone to court to prevent repatriation.

Between $3 billion and $5 billion of public money was looted during Abacha's regime, according to Transparency International.

The Justice Department suit filed in November 2013 saying that Abacha, his son Mohammed Sani Abacha, their associate Abubakar Atiku Bagudu and others embezzled, misappropriated and extorted money from the Nigerian government.

They laundered funds by buying bonds backed by the United States using U.S. financial institutions, prosecutors said.

The assets were held in banks that included Deutsche Bank AG, HSBC Holdings Plc and Banque SBA, according to the lawsuit.

In June, after a 16-year legal battle, Nigeria recovered from Liechtenstein $228 million stolen by Abacha and his associates.

As of last year, Nigeria had recovered about $1.3 billion of Abacha's money from various European jurisdictions.[/b]
http://news.yahoo.com/u-takes-control-480-mln-stolen-nigerian-dictator-070128996.html

MamiWata: This is where you make your mistake. You have a view of self based on how white people view you. Imagine how different your views would be if you would allow yourself to make a decision without their blessing. I'll never be a n****. This is the different between an enslaved/colonized mind and one that is not.

Amen, so cause a white woman said same difference we all should see each other's as Ni$&@$, whatever lol. What she doesn't understand is this sentiment by some whites are nothing new. Some african Americans have done it to some foreign whites, and I have witnessed these whites tell and correct them that they are white British, Russian, and etc so I feel black Africans have a right to demand that respect as well when we are grouped together with non-black africans and etc. I've seen Africans correct some whites about this and they respect it and don't cross that line, regardless of how they feel. Tisabone had the chance to correct her but accepted it cause she agrees since her community identifies with being identified by their race and being labeled NI$&@&@, and feels Africans should since a white lady told her that. What she doesn't understand is that shows lack of respect on that ladies part in not respecting the differences in black cultures when it comes to identification. Any way I've bumped into white people that Respect and know the difference between a Haitian, Jamaican, and Nigerian.
The only blacks I see embrace the label ni&&@ amongst themselves is Africans Americans, some not all, especially with the young generation and hip-hop/rap industry but get mad when white Americans step and mention it to them. I don't get how you can embrace a negative word amongst your community then get mad when whites mention it. Any way their issue, they just shouldn't drag africans into that nonsence.

no1madman: whoever is not proud of his Skin colour is simply dead and buried. . .

Lmao

sorry it is inevitable, tribalism in nairaland will be go on till the forum is no more. To be honest majority of views people say when it comes to other tribes, majority of the time is a sentiment believed with many nigerians, not all but many, so this shouldn't be a surprise. Nairaland to me is highlighting it, instead of sugar coding it. Its sad but the truth, for me I could careless cause it's a forum like others of other races and nationalities that talk about their neighbors. I have been to British, African american, white american, Asian, and British Caribbean forums and heard worst about almost every group more then nairaland. So to me you should ignore it, sit back and treat nairaland when you bump into these tribal threads as if your watching a funny but disturbing movie.

traware: I don't like your condescending tone on this post

Fulaman is cool, There have been three threads started by black americans last month that was meant to start drama and Fulaman closed all of them(the OP of this thread wasn't the OP of those threads though). He is very efficient in closing those type of threads, when those threads pop up believe me; so if this thread leads to that he will shut it down. What I like about niaraland those type of threads are normally ignored or shut down but in a black american forum or thread it would have reached 10 pages in 10 minutes

tpia1: its far more deadly than that.

well for me this threads title is in the wrong section and should be in the ethnic political section but besides that there is no wide anti-black american vendetta on nairaland, Nigerians rarely speak about them unless asked or started by some non-nigerians or asked by a few naive nigerian(which I haven't seen for awhile now).

tpia1: if this topic was locked:





https://www.nairaland.com/132836/black-americans-making-fun-africans


then this one should be too.

You have a point, if that thread was locked then this thread should be locked to cause I can tell where it's leading to.

UN predicts that Africa – and Nigeria in particular – will be at forefront of huge global population rise over next century



[b]Nigeria's population is expected to surpass that of the US by 2050, according to new UN projections that predict the west African country could be the world's third most populous by the end of this century.

The UN report World population prospects: the 2012 revision, published on Thursday, predicts the world's population, now at 7.2 billion, will reach 8.1 billion in 2025. By mid-century, the world's population is expected to top 9.5 billion, reaching nearly 11 billion by 2100.

More than half of the growth predicted between now and 2050 is expected in Africa, where the number of people is set to more than double, from 1.1 billion to 2.4 billion. Africa's population will continue to rise even if there is a future drop in the average number of children each woman has, says the report, which predicts the number of people living on the continent could reach 4.2 billion (or more than 35% of total global population) by 2100.

Several other countries, including India, Indonesia, Pakistan and the Philippines, are also set for significant population increases.[/b]

Shrinking population

[b]India, currently the world's second-largest country by population, is expected to rival China in size by 2028, when both nations will each have about 1.45 billion citizens. After 2030, China is expected to shrink in numbers, reaching an estimated 1.1 billion by the end of this century, when India's population is projected to reach about 1.5 billion.

Some of the most rapid increases are expected in the world's 49 least-developed countries. The populations of Mali, Niger, Somalia, Tanzania and Zambia are expected to increase at least fivefold by 2100.

In contrast, the populations of 43 countries are expected to decrease over the next few decades. Belarus, Bulgaria, Cuba, Romania, Russia, and Ukraine are among the countries where populations are expected to drop by more than 15% by 2050.

"These future trends are not guaranteed," stressed John Wilmoth, director of the population division at the UN's department of economic and social affairs. Wilmoth, who said the future shape of the world will depend largely on what happens to fertility rates, underlined the continued unmet need for family planning in many countries.

"Demography is not destiny, [but] these new population projections highlight the pressures facing governments … population growth in some cases, and population ageing and decline in others," Wilmoth said.

Migration from developing to developed countries is projected to average roughly 2.4 million people each year from 2013-2050 before dropping to 1 million each year from 2050-2100. Without this, the populations of many European and other developed countries would be expected to decline significantly.

The report also anticipates a rise in the number of old people, with life expectancy projected to rise to 76 globally by 2050 and 82 by 2100.

Today, the average person is 29 years old. This is expected to increase to 36 by 2050, and to 41 by 2100. By the end of the century, the average person in Europe, the region with the oldest average age, will be 47.

Globally, the number of over-60s is expected to rise from 841 million in 2013 to nearly 3 billion by the end of the century. Two-thirds of the world's over-60s already live in developing countries. By 2050, this share is expected to reach nearly 80%.

"These figures are a wake-up call for all countries, including developing countries with young populations," said Silvia Stefanoni, interim head of HelpAge International.

"The generation that will retire in 2050 is the current youth bulge and, given the limited employment opportunities available to young people [now], many of them will not be able to retire [in the future]. Young and old depend on each other – our shared future for all people on our planetdepends on recognising and investing in all our age groups."

The number of people between 25 and 59 in developing countries is at an all-time high, and is projected to increase by more than 400 million over the next decade.

"These population trends point to the urgency of supporting employment creation in developing countries as part of any strategy to address the slow economic recovery that the world is experiencing," the report warns.

The figures are based on a comprehensive review of recent data on population, including a 2010 round of national censuses. They are higher than previous estimates, which put the world's population at 9.3 billion in 2050 and 10.1 billion in 2100, in part because UN demographers have found higher fertility rates in some countries than previously predicted.

Beyond providing new estimates of how the world will change over the next century, the figures also provide the basis for a number of key UN indicators to assess progress towards the millennium development goals.[/b]

Fertility rates

The figures are based on the UN's "medium-variant" projections, which assume a decline in the number of children born per woman in many countries with high fertility rates. Under different assumptions, estimates of the world's population in 2050 range from 8.3 billion to 10.9 billion.

Average family sizes have dropped significantly over the past few decades. An estimated 48% of the world's people now live in countries where the average number of children per woman is fewer than 2.1. Another 43% live in countries where that figure is between 2.1 and five children.

Only 9% of the world's people live in the 31 countries where the average woman has more than five children. Twenty-nine of these are in Africa and two are in Asia (Afghanistan and Timor-Leste).
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050

Kossyne: Nice one dear. In addition, there are other avenues to exploit if they want to raise funds. For instance: they can visit corporate bodies and convince them to place adverts on their movies. The bulk of the consumers patronizing Nollywood are Nigerian Housewives and Young ladies. this will be a great way for these companies to reach their customers and for Nollywood to generate needed funds. We have to stop waiting for government to do everything for us. With Ebola and BH, I think the govt have a lot on their table right now.

Let's hope that BH and Ebola are eradicated soon

Fulaman198: Very nice

Thanks

Fulaman198: Yah most Africans forgot that Algeria, an African team was in the World Cup. They only remembered, Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast and Cameroon. I have met some Algerians though who were as white as anything, and the guy was proud to be 'African'. It really surprised me. But I have not met many Algerians really, maybe 2 total my entire lifetime.

yeah true, I heard in the news that some north africans felt that North African teams tends to be ignored when it to comes to their connection to Africa or being part of the african team circle, especially during the 2010 world cup. I have bumped into a few North africans from Morroco, Egypt and Algeria and to be honest most are very nice but when to comes to their identification it is something else, there have been only three that called themselves african, 2 were females and one male(one was from Egypt and the other 2 were from Morocco).

Fulaman198: There may be a "superiority complex", but it is a very misplaced one. Look at what's happening in Libya for example right now. Arabs are not superior to blacks in any way. The people of North Africa as aforementioned have mix of genes from Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Indigenous Blacks, and Turks. A lot of them would prefer to associate themselves with the Arabs, Greeks, Romans and Turks than with blacks. Again, North Africans are not the only ones that I have seen not want to be associated with Africa. I know some Somalis like Enlightened would get mad at me for saying this, but horners I have met in the past don't want to be seen as black a lot of the times (and i find it surprising because they look black). North Africans in the far north like in cities like Casablanca, Algiers, Tripoli, etc. can make a case for themselves though since they are so mixed.

Agree, no argument there, I never considered them superior but the reason North Africans can get away with it as you say is because they are so mixed and most are arabs or look like arabs. Horners to a extent try to get away with it when its obvious nobody would follow in that delusion, so in the end of the day they are still considered Black african cause of their race and some of the culture is African but North Africans their African cultural connection is completely gone now.

I think it todays age most sub-Saharan Africans don't consider North Africans culturally connect to them But it doesn't bother them or concern them, it's like this invisible cut off they have with them. I have heard this statement from some non-North Africans when it comes to North Africans, even during the world cup when they bring up african soccer teams from Africa, nobody is thinking about the Algerian team, they are thinking of the Ghanian Black stars or Nigerian team, even though the Algerian team is good as well.

GooseBaba: Religion is 99%....nothing beyond... everything about their cultural/traditional practice hinges on religion.. The practices of their ancestors is considered despicable. They loathe themselves in order to fit in with their Arabian masters...

well ok but I was wondering if there is a superiority complex when it comes to their race as well, if religion wasn't part of it I think some of them would still be doing some of their behaviors in a way

macof: True! All around the world we can see muslims are much more aggressive...fully devoted ones at that

Again it is only Africa that people frown at their own culture because a foreign religion dictates to do so
Why won't North Africa loose its "Africanness" when Islam is the first order of the day

I agree, that's why I'm not surprised that North Africa has already been excluded from Africa when it comes to representation and image of todays age but I feel it's beyond religion with them also.

Orikinla: Thank you for sharing this.
Nollywood has come to stay.
But the worst enemies of Nollywood are the desperate and greedy title chasers who compete for the leadership of their dysfunctional associations and guilds for childish bragging rights and petty egos and fighting over government handouts.

I agree, it's a nigerian mentality that goes beyond Nollywood and is in politics, fashion, medical field and etc

pussypounder: No be only Nollywood, na firewood

Lmao

donnypool: Nollywood is a disappointment to Nigeria, this industry haven't done nothing for this country, they only care about their selfish self.. Nigerians need jobs from nollyhood but they ignored and travel all the way to ghana to enrich nadia buhari and co.

Now ebola is going on rampage and this guys just like kanu are taking pictures with new outfit.
SMH for nigeria

NB: Anybody with a different opinion can speak without quoting me
Regards
Donnypool

Well It's a work in progress for Nollywood, not making excuses for them cause their needs to be improvements with the industry but it was announced that they are worth over 2 Billion now and they have been creating jobs in Nigeria, I guess not good enough.

After the boycott or fine of Nollywood actors/actresses, producers and etc to appear in ghollywood, from what the media said, Nollywood retaliated and did the samething back to Ghana. Eventually it subsided and the boycott and banns were stopped on both sides but it was said many Nollywood directors were cautious and were retreating back in finding talent in Nigeria now after that experience.

http://www.punchng.com/news/nollywood-created-two-million-jobs-in-20-years-zulu-news-room-nannewsroomnanngronline-com-sent-21-june-2/
http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/movie/31429/6/nigeria-and-ghana-at-war.html
http://www.modernghana.com/music/10881/3/ghanaian-actors-banned-in-nollywood.html
https://www.nairaland.com/972577/ghanaian-movies-banned-nigeria

tpia1: is the thread still about africa and north africa?

yes but side tracked to Northern and southern Nigeria debate, any way please post your opinions on the BBC article

macof: I feel this is as a result of the mind controlling power of religion and the fear that comes with it.
culture certainly has no "disobey and suffer" conditions so it has less mental grip on people

True, I feel the Muslim religion particularly has a more "Eye for a Eye" mentality more then Christianity. Lets Thank God culture doesn't revolve over those rules

jamaicanoshu: Nollywood must demand their own cable tv licenses . The money received from this venture could be used to bank roll 80-100 channels of Nollywood content. Rather than the measly 4 channels they presently have;they could march across Africa offering cartoons ,games,sports ,anything that American Tv offers. The Eaglets just played a match in Congo. this could have been brought live via a Nollywood sports channel! Imagine the advertising revenue that could be generated from these cable channels. Nollywood should expand to all forms of entertainment : porn ,theme parks ,novels,magazines ,radio,music and sports. They should expand street level distribution across America and the Caribbean by combining with local music in these areas . Finally they should use the Kemetic or Ancient Egyptian theme in their historical films. Dr. Malachi York and the Nuwaupians exploited this theme in their books and films.

True, It may be difficult but possible. Their are some cable TV licenses owed by non-nollywood nigerian companies though, I know there is one that operates from Nigeria nad has a channel in southern states in America but not operational in other regions of the US. Overall it's inevitable Nollywood is progressing and leading to what you have mentioned. IrokoTV is a example of how Nollywood is moving towards that direction.

Fulaman198: I don't even know if the mods in the politics section know what they are doing. They seem to place bigoted threads on the front page

yup I won't be surprised. I don't think they do anything to be honest

macof: Did u just say North Africa is more advanced?? Wat rubbish that useless desert region

The only thing pure African and black about North Africa was Nubia and some parts of Egypt, now Egypt and Sudan like other North African countries are nothing but Arab shiit holes.
I pity for the few remaining true black Africans in body and consciousness

Some northern african countries are struggling & been struggling for a long time, so I don't get where they think it's advanced. If you see the comments section in the BBC article link, some had similar sentiments as you have as well.

Fulaman198: Lollll culture section will always be clean of bigotry. The politics section on the other hand is a lost cause

lol, true. Do the moderators even do anything in the politics sections in the first place. any way the issues that we discussed when it comes to Nigeria rear its ugly head in a way when it comes to northern and southern Africa.

Fulaman198: There are some extremists in this country no doubt and many of them reason as if they have no brain. Killing isn't permitted in Islam yet a lot of these robots claim to kill under the name of Islam. I think they are just heartless human beings to begin with. Many Muslims are not like that. I think there is something very wrong in Nigeria though compared to other African Muslim countries.

Thats the thing I wouldn't classify Nigeria as a Muslim or Christian country but a country that is a mixed and neutral buffer

otipoju: After studying Religion for 4 years in the university,perhaps Ihave a higher level of tolerance and open mindedness towards others.

Also can a cockroach win in a court of Hens?

The first day I entered Minjibir, someone told me how close I was to him slitting my throat without any consequence if I had admitted to being the corper that urinated in an uncompleted building that happened to. Be a mosque under construction.

Is it among people with such mindset that I would be arguing what is right or not right... Especially since I was a CRK teacher at the Federal Government Girls College in the town.

My mother raised no fool oo.

exactly, how can you speak to people with that type of mindset. It's either you speak up & get killed or keep quiet for your life

Fulaman198: There are not even close to the amount of anti Northern bigots if at all on these forums. That's why there aren't many Northerners on this forum due to the bigotry and the Aboki name calling.... That is until you put the bigots in their rightful place

That is true but there are other tribal bigots to, if you go to the ethnic section under politics they are there 24/7, even in this culture section it happens but few though, like that thread I told you about that had to be closed.

Fulaman198: Have you been to the North before. It is easy they are people too. Simply ask why do they support another team over their fellow Nigerian brothers and see how they respond. Don't be so easily brainwashed by what people say on forums

I never been to the North
well when you hear stories like this: http://www.wluml.org/node/3722
You won't be as comfortable doing that but don't worry I am not brainwashed with this forum is what I hear in the news

Fulaman198: They didn't have an influence they took Northern Mali over due to an incompetent Malian army. They killed many Non-Arabs as well. The distrust between Non-Arab Malians and Malians grew because they felt that the Arabs in Mali betrayed them.

Malians didn't want anything to do with Al-Qaeda. Heck many important events in Mali were cancelled due to Al-Qaeda acquisition. Events like festival in the desert had to be moved to Burkina Faso that year, an event that many Westerners attend to listen to traditional West African Sahel/Sahara music.

I advise you take what you hear about Northerners with a grain of salt on these forums. In case you didn't notice there are a lot of anti-Northern bigots here. While it is true that there are Arab wannabes in the North, the same can be said about white wannabes in the south.

Oh yea southern Nigeria is not exempt from self hate as well and there are northern bigots to, I'm not denying that at all but heah when it comes to Mali I guess learn something new now about the situation going on there.