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nengibo:
Warri people and noise

vedaxcool:
Outside lies and bigotry, do tribal associations have any meaningful contribution to make?

Wimblyrealtor:
Good morning, the airdrop is still active, make sure you do it

Coronabirus:
This is what serious youth should start doing instead of channelling their anger to wrong authorities. State Govts are worst than FG in all ramifications!

Mikecold:
Muslims tradition of slaughtering Rams stands very strong in Islam yet it is a borrowed tradition practiced by Abraham the father of the Jews

The practice was performed on Isaac who was the father of the chosen people.

There was a reason for that event but Muslims Know nothing about it, they claim it was a test of Abraham to kill isaac.

But if you look at the Bible clearly it wasn't a test

Genesis 22:5

And Abraham said into his young men, abide ye here with the ass, and i and the lad will go yonder and worship and come again to you

Abraham here was telling his men he was coming again with Isaac after going up, you call it a test but he knew the outcome of the supposed test, does this still make it a test?

Genesis 22: 8

And Abraham said, my son God would provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering, so they both went together

Abraham couldn't have known the future before God and it's outcome, he definitely was briefed that it was a symbolic act he should emback on for something bigger

Indeed God provided his own sacrifice for his own self.

Why didn't God just tell Abraham to go look for a ram somewhere else to replace isaac?

Why did he provide an impossible ram in the midst of nowhere at a mountain where ram naturally shouldn't be found?

This was a reference to Abraham on his son whom he would send as sacrifice later on

He used Isaac as an illustration because Isaac was the begotten son of Abraham just like him having Jesus

This was why God had to wait for Isacc to be born and didn't use Ishmael

Abraham was aware it wasn't a test to him, and he wasn't going to kill isaac

So when Muslims gloat about this in ignorance without understanding the significance of that event I so laugh at them because they accept God provided a ram to sacrifice to his own self

Yet they don't accept how God can provide Jesus as sacrifice to his own self

They say God doesn't do human sacrifice as reference to Jesus sacrifice yet they don't understand why same God would even fathom such an "ungodly test" for a man to kill his only son

This is not even a matter of whether Abraham did the act but for such God to even voice it out means he doesn't see anything wrong with it and it makes sense if he can't accept such only because man can't give him a pure sacrifice but he can provide his own pure loved son as all expantiated in that story

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DoggoneDogg:
This is our futa jalon jihadist problem & does not concern the Biafrans.

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AOresources:
Why not create your own thread.. You wicked pass the girl wey burn ebeano

JohnFGbegile:
he's 5990 better than terrorist Buhari

Mikecold:
When would you ever stop taking sentiment in a debate and look at things holistically?

The Bible here is our guide to the events, none of us lived in that time but let's exame history forensically (without religious bias here)

Genesis 22:5

And Abraham said into his young men, abide ye here with the ass, and i and the lad will go yonder and worship and come again to you

Abraham here is not under duress to say this, this is his servants he has command over them, he tells them he is coming again with the lad

He could as well say i am coming, he can remain mute and say wait, but he adds that he is "coming" back with a child that supposedly should not come back

Genesis 22: 8

And Abraham said, my son God would provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering, so they both went together

Again Isaac asks his father about the lamb because obviously they have instruments meant for sacrifice, and Abraham replies God would provide which he already knew he would.

Mind you Abraham never told lies unless he feared a higher authority (eg the king he deceived with Sarah as his sister)

Abraham would never have used God's name to also tell a lie, so he spoke what he was aware of

Does that mean he wasn't told to take Isaac for a kill, yes he was told

Can you call that test, I call it a symbolic instruction because he knew the outcome which invalidates a test

God by the way can test you but not beyond your limit so I do not call the Bible a liar for saying he tested Abraham

Take it as a student going for a make or Mar "exam" yet he already knows he has passed for just showing up

The exam (test, temptation) as a name does not stop him from knowing the outcome

Knowing the outcome doesn't mean he wouldn't go through the process of the exam.

It doesn't invalidate it as an "exam" by name or process but it is not an exam based on the strength of content needed that is absent