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Christianity EtcRe: God Please Wipe My Eyes And Give Me Children by Antiparticle(m): 1:41am On Aug 29, 2015
@prettmum, so sorry to hear about your situation.
The best advice is to go to a very very good gynecologist and/or fertility expert. I know you said the doctor says that you are ok, but the thing is some doctors are better than others. Since you have not had a baby yet, then this means everything is not ok. Do as much research as you can to find a fertility expert or an extremely good gynecologist. Also, your husband should also see a doctor to evaluate his reproductive organs... the issue could be with him. You both need to go to different doctors to get different opinions... doctors don't know everything and one sometimes needs to visit several doctors (or a very good expert) in order to identify the root cause or solution to an issue.

As someone else mentioned, make sure to eat a really good nutritious and balanced diet. Encourage your husband to do the same.
While prayer may help psychologically, you absolutely need medical help. Do take this seriously. Take care. smiley
FoodRe: .. by Antiparticle(m):
Drink lots and lots of water. Eat foods with lots of fiber.

Eat lots of groundnuts and avocado (most nuts and avocado contain lots of fiber, proteins, and healthy fats). If you can, keep eating beans but drink lots and lots of water with it. Drink a lot of water all day and eat fruits and vegetables everyday.

Also read as much of this website as you can.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
Ok I respect your position. I very recently used to be a very strong passionate Christian (I had been for over a decade, and grew up in a Christian home), and I couldn't have imagined that I would stop believing in the existence of Yahweh. I know most of the bible very well, I used to start and lead bible study groups, I used to have visions, I used to be ascetic about indulgences, I used to deeply seek the heart of God, etc.

But here I am now. It was all a mirage.

When I realized that Christianity was such a sham, I was in a state of panic for a number of weeks, afraid of what I had just found out. I desperately hoped that I was wrong. A number of jarring observations and critical reading of history of the past 3,000 years brought me to this place. I also carefully evaluated the existence of miracles, the answering of prayers, the arbitrary nature of Christian doctrines, the absence of justice in the world over the ages, the inability of the Christian doctrine to adequately address the topic of suffering, the use of fear and violence to extort followership and compliance, the use of Christianity to enslave and kill, the questionable authenticity and accuracy of the resurrection story, etc. This is how I ended up getting here. It was against my will, but I got here even after reading a lot of theological books by Christian authors (CS Lewis, Ravi Zaccharias, and the like) I still respect till today. I watched lots of atheist vs theologian YouTube debates, I tried hard to keep believing, but I am not one to be intellectually dishonest to myself. The evidence was heavily stacked against Christianity, and by extension any form of theism.

Most atheists actually don't claim that they are 100% sure that the universe was not created by a creator. Most atheists just claim that there is no evidence that the universe was created by a creator, and therefore asserting the existence of a creator raises more questions than answers.

My position is: if a creator exists, it is unfair for him/her/it to demand my worship because he/she/it supposedly created me to be a thinking being yet refuses to provide evidence for his/her/its existence. I also conclude (as a former Christian) that if Yahweh is a supposedly loving God, why would he/she/it damn me to hell because of unbelief without any shred of evidence for his/her/its existence. This leads me to conclude that Yahweh either doesn't exist or is a psychopath... I wouldn't worship either.

The existence of Yahweh/spirits/the devil is a hypothesis for which there is no evidence (even after plenty efforts by theists to "prove" said existence), therefore there's no point worrying about his/her/its existence (the same way there's no need worrying about hypothetical ten-headed snakes with fifteen legs). I am a naturalist. smiley

buggaboo:
I only replied your question which was based on the assumption of a creator.

As you can see, there are a lot of unknowns if you base your belief on empirical evidence, and that's why I don't understand why atheists believe that the world was definitely not created.

I am a christian and my belief came as a result of personal experiences which I cannot prove to you empirically. That's why I have kept it purely logical on this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
Oh this is where you lost me. There is no evidence whatsoever that a creator exists so I can't fully engage in the thought experiment of a creator.

But even if I were to try to participate in such thought experiment, how do you know that said creator has a purpose for our creation? Not everything is done for a purpose so it is a logical leap to assume that there was a purpose. What if this creator was so daft that he/she/it created the universe by accident?


buggaboo:
First, everything around where you are right now has a purpose for it's creation.

If we have a creator, it implies that we were all created for a purpose no matter how small or seemingly insignificant it is.

That you feel the creator is in hiding, doesn't mean that other people do not have access to him.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m): 11:24pm On Aug 27, 2015
Please clarify or rephrase, I don't understand.

buggaboo:
Well, it depends on the purpose of creation.
If you don't the purpose of something, it's existence wont make sense to you.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m): 11:10pm On Aug 27, 2015
Ok we both agree on that. smiley
Now that we got that out of the way, what is your opinion on the following questions that I asked previously:
But even if something or someone created the universe, what do you say are the implications? Does this mean that it is important that we revere that something or someone? That something or someone obviously doesn't give a shi*t about humans because he/she/it has gone into hiding since he/she/it created the universe.

buggaboo:
Ok let me retrace my steps.
I am not sure that science will ever explain everything.
Neither are you.

Shall we both agree then?
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
I fully agree with you about margin of errors and the risk of extrapolating indefinitely.
You were the one that extrapolated indefinitely that "science can never explain how everything got started". In response, I wrote that "science is a body of knowledge that keeps expanding" in order to moderate your absolutist extrapolation. I don't know if science will eventually explain how everything got started, but I do know that it is uninformed to write that "science can never explain how everything got started" as you did.

So abeg where did I say that science will explain everything? Please quote it precisely. You have now begun to dance around in circles and I will have to ignore you if you don't quote what you claim I said, or if you don't stand corrected for misquoting me. smiley

Also, you haven't answered any of the questions posed in response to your previous commentary about your hypothetical something or someone creators that designed the universe.

buggaboo:
I am happy you mentioned a likelyhood value.
It means that there is a margin for error.
As a scientist, you cannot extrapolate indefinitely when you are dealing with a lot of unknowns. Your model is bound to break down at some point. Yes, it takes some faith to suggest that because science has explained somethings, science will explain everything.

To explain my point about something not bound by the laws of its own creation. Imagine that there is an advanced version of the Angry Birds game in which the birds have been programmed to make decisions by themselves. The game is their universe and some of them may think that they were not created if they cannot see any evidence of the team who created them. And it'd be wrong for thetbirds to expect whoever created them to behave like them.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
buggaboo:
I said something not bound by the laws of the universe.
This means that it may be self existing because it doesn't have to obey the laws of the universe.
This is extremely improbable. Up until now, we have never found anything in the universe that is not bound by the same laws of physics that we observe here on earth, so your statement above is pure blind guesswork. Even quantum mechanical systems with all their astounding quirks can be predictably described using physical laws. I wonder why you would conjecture out of nowhere that something that is not bound by the laws of the universe created the universe. This is an extraordinarily unlikely explanation. But even if something or someone created the universe, what do you say are the implications? Does this mean that it is important that we revere that something or someone? That something or someone obviously doesn't give a shi*t about us because he/she/it has gone into hiding since he/she/it supposedly created humans.

buggaboo:
If you have faith that one day science will explain everything, how are you different from someone who has faith that God created the universe? You both do not have empirical evidence for your belief
Please quote where I said I have faith that science will one day explain everything. You are misusing the word faith in order to suit your position. A scientist does not need faith to extrapolate into the future. Scientists/statisticians develop prediction models that extrapolate based on current and past data; these models are used to assign a likelihood value to a future event. This is not based on faith, but is based on past/current evidence and physical laws. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m): 9:30pm On Aug 27, 2015
OK, fair enough. You didn't mention Yahweh. But in one of your posts you wrote that something or someone designed the universe. If something or someone indeed designed the universe, wouldn't that something or someone also have had to have been designed by another something or someone (thus resulting in a negative infinity of something and someone creators)? While at first glance your theory of design may appear plausible, upon closer inspection it appears to be a highly unlikely explanation of the whats and hows of the universe's existence.

Also, your statement that "science can never explain how everything started" is mistaken. Ten thousand years ago, I'm sure humans made statements like "man can never create a flying vehicle that would land on the moon"; we both know how that turned out. Science is a body of knowledge that keeps expanding.

buggaboo:
Where did you see invisible being or yahweh in my post.
I said something not bound by the laws of the universe created the universe.
Why did I say that?
Because science can never explain how everything started.
buggaboo:
Something or someone who doesnt obey the laws of the universe, designed the universe.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
OK, even if something else is responsible for creating the universe, why jump to the conclusion that it was an invisible being? And even if it truly were an invisible being, why make the leap that this being was Yahweh? The latter is an extremely huuuuge leap! Why not Obatala or Zeus or Amadiora? Abeg let me know if I am misunderstanding you. I have an open mind.

buggaboo:
Ehmm, it is called deduction.
Since you have refused to give me a meaningful explaination of how the universe started, and I cannot find one myself, it only makes sense to accept that something outside of the laws of the universe is responsible. Whatever name you choose to call that thing is up to you.
The agnostics atleast accept this but I just dont understand you atheists.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m): 1:26am On Aug 27, 2015
You are using the tool of FEAR to convince the OP to stop asking valid questions about his faith in Yahweh (I presume the OP is/was christian). It blows my mind that FEAR is one of religion's favorite tool to extract followership and compliance. smh.

I think you should address the OP's questions without resorting to the FEAR tool, after all Apostle Paul told Timothy to study to show himself approved. Also, in I Peter 3:15, Peter says "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect".

Respect the OP's attempt to learn more about why he believes what he believes and stop using FEAR to truncate his quest. No offense intended my friend, just saying smiley

Ishilove:
Mr Man, if you know what is good for you, reduce your association with atheists and for God's sakes, stop all the ungodly and profitless arguments that do not edify either you or Christ. Evil companionship corrupts good manners. How can you allow unbelievers sway you, a child of God? huh Don't you know all power have been given unto you?

There is a God, there is heaven, and there is hell. Anyone who can sit down and say they don't exist is lost and only the mercy of God will open their eyes. However, God said "I will show mercy to whom I may show mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I may have compassion- Rom 9:15.

For God's sakes, you are on the road to perdition if you don't immediately cut off your association with your atheist friends and ask God for mercy and forgiveness.

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.- Prov 14:12 (KJV)
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
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Christianity EtcRe: I Am Now Thinking Like An ATHEIST. Help!! by Antiparticle(m):
I have still never seen or heard of any unfalsifiable miracle. Once I see a completely severed limb grow back during prayer, then I'll become intrigued. But so far, I have never seen or heard of a "miracle" that occurred in the absence of ambiguity. Neither have I seen or heard of a "miracle" that couldn't have been attributed to coincidence. Makes me wonder if the supposedly astounding miracles of the bible were even true to start with -- I am certain that they are not true. Enormous claims require enormous proof. If Yahweh truly exists, how come such astounding miracles never happen anymore? After all, Jesus told his disciples that whoever follows him would be able to do similar miracles.

About prophecies... there are also tarot card readers who prophesy the future. Does that mean that Yahweh is involved in their prophecies too? How about magicians? To me, prophesies and magic are all a mirage that can captivate a gullible audience. How come these so-called prophets can't reliably prophesy significant disasters like earthquakes, volcanoes, and such? How come they only prophesy things a very perceptive person can guess? The reliability of a diagnostic method is assessed by its rate of false negatives and false positives; unfortunately prophecy fails this test of reliability over a large number of samples/prophecies.

Prophecies and miracles are all a mirage. Most prophecies are often wrong, but the only ones we repeatedly hear about about the few that became true... which leads me to conclude that a lot of it is confirmation bias.

On this religion ish, the more you look the less you see. Statistics on "miracles" and "prophesies" tell us a lot, my friend. smiley
BRIGHTRIVERS:
But how do we explain Miracles and prophesies done in churches? ..if there can be a Spiritual healing to a problem science can't solve,don't u think there's a spiritual being somewherehuh :.

Also,if a Prophet can tell you a problem going on in your Family without u havin told him... Dnt u think there's a spiritual being somewhere??
CrimeRe: 21-yr-old Man Commits Suicide ‘to Go Home And Rest’ by Antiparticle(m): 7:31pm On Aug 18, 2015
I appreciate your balanced and empathetic comment, it is refreshing.

muh4lyf:
This is what happens In a society where everything seems scarce.. Trustworthy friends are hard to find. Employment are hard to come by. True love is lost in the deep ocean. It's so unfortunate that you couldn't hold on to your creature.. For what ever reason,it's very wrong to take your life... You have broken your mother much more by taking your life. May God forgive your sins and give your mother the fortitude to bear the lose.
CrimeRe: 21-yr-old Man Commits Suicide ‘to Go Home And Rest’ by Antiparticle(m): 7:29pm On Aug 18, 2015
Holyfield1:
Rest in hell
R2bees:
BUT HOW CAN ONE REST IN HELL FIRE?
Emekamex:
A lazy man's way out.
You guys need to be more empathetic. For those of you who are saying he will go to hell, how callous of you! Even if hell exists (I don't believe it does), who are you decide who goes to hell? Also, if God exists and if he was kind and loving, don't you think he would have mercy on mentally-ill depressed people who commit suicide? I just can't understand how your first words in reaction to another man's tragedy is to say he is going to hell! You guys should just hope you never get deeply depressed someday.

Kalvan:
[s]Majority of black people talk like fools. [/s]There is something called empathy, you dumb fu cks. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. RIP Chinonso Wilberforce Dike( aka Chino of Nairaland)
Totally agree with you.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Bus Conductor Suddenly Runs Mad In Ikorodu (Photos) by Antiparticle(m): 7:16pm On Aug 18, 2015
Wow I feel so bad for the conductor. He most likely has schizophrenia or a similar mental health disorder. His mental health disorder can be treated and well managed, if he goes to a good psychiatrist. But I trust my fellow naija people to say that his problems are due to a spiritual attack sad
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 1:01am On Aug 04, 2015
Yes, the limits are severe. Here, we clearly see that the daily limits on ATM transactions is now $300 from $2500, and the annual limit is now $50,000 from the previous $150,000. For businesses and individuals that do a lot of international transactions, this can be crippling.

And yes, I know CBN claims they are not the one that ordered banks to not collect dollars (USD); this is clear. I would however state categorically that CBN's monetary policies is what pushed banks to stop collecting USD in cash. People are panicking about the value of the Naira, and as a result some are converting more of their Naira into USD and stashing it in their domiciliary accounts. Banks became pressured to stop accepting USD for this reason, I believe CBN pressured them to do this; you also realize that Emefiele strongly supports this move as though he proposed it all along.

Your assertion that demand for dollar is less than supply is only partially true-- it is only partially true because it is the banks' policy to not accept USD in cash that has artificially reduced USD demand (not the other way around), thereby bringing down USD's black market value (and increasing the Naira black market value). In reality though, the demand for the dollar is still high, the semblance of low demand is a mirage that is masked by the banks' policy.

Image123:
No, the limits are not severe. And CBN is not the one that ordered banks not to collect dollars, as stated in the OP. What's happening is basic ss1 Economics, the law of demand and supply. The demand for dollars is currently less than the supply.
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 12:26am On Aug 04, 2015
Yes that is true. But there are now severe limits on how much can be spent abroad daily on these cards. These limits will adversely affect businesspersons.

Basically, Emefiele is trying as hard as he can to put bandages to cover the problem. While I'm a proponent of using the CBN to defend the Naira, I believe that such interventions should be done on a very limited basis. The primary way to defend the Naira is through a strong economy, not through the stifling measures that Emefiele has been implementing of late. (Granted, it isn't his fault whatsoever that the economy is weak.)

Image123:
Ogas jjman2322 and Antiparticle, don't Mastercards, Verve cards and other ATM cards pay for transaction from naira accounts?
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 12:01am On Aug 04, 2015
@jjman2322 you make so much sense!!!! grin
You just restored my sanity.
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 11:59pm On Aug 03, 2015
Haha, lol exactly. Closing all domicilliary accounts will likely crash our economy further as it would make it difficult for companies and individuals to do business internationally. The @Chinom poster is most likely uneducated, he/she sounds like a stooge of Emefiele.
SangoCrusader:
"Close all domicillary accounts..." it is obvious that you are broke and most likely uneducated. Person wey get $£€ for account no fit yan like vulcanizer...
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 11:56pm On Aug 03, 2015
Indeed! Lipstick on a pig is the right phrase. Plus, this temporary fix doesn't affect the value of the Naira on the open market anyways; it may only bring its black market value to par with the open FX market value. But eventually the Naira's value on the open market may drop further once Iran starts selling oil again and/or if our economy doesn't improve fast enough; the black market value will follow such drop.

It does shock me though how clueless and careless with words Emefiele sounds. I had thought he was better than this.

SangoCrusader:
Please tell them o. All these people rejoicing, this is a temporary fix and the naira will certainly fall again. All Emefiele has succeeded in doing is putting lipstick on a pig...
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 11:31pm On Aug 03, 2015
Your commentary makes so much sense. grin
The article did say that it was the banks (not CBN) that independently made this decision on their own though.

I also think, however, that if the economy does not improve fast enough then the Naira will eventually drop further. Iran is likely to start pumping oil again which may lead to a further drop in international oil prices; this would reduce our FX earnings further. Cheers.

bigfrancis21:
In a way, I applaud the initiative taken by Emefiele to have Nigerian banks reject dollar payment into bank accounts. This would create excess supply of dollars in the economy and when there is excess supply over demand for dollars, according to the laws of economics, the price of dollars would fall and suppliers would be willing to sell out their dollars at cheaper prices to the few willing buyers, thus reducing the overall Dollar-Naira exchange rate.

Those harbouring dollars or who moved dollars into the country in hopes to sell them at a high naira exchange rate (N240) to willing buyers will soon find out that the demand for dollars has fallen and may be forced to sell their dollars now at say N209 to $1 before it continues to fall beyond the exchange rate at which they bought it and they incur losses instead.

It is quite a good idea and it has left me wondering why they had not come up with this idea sooner than now.
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 11:25pm On Aug 03, 2015
Chei, why you finish me like this na? And why all the abusive words? Why is your commentary so angry huh

Anyways, while I agree with your statement that Emefiele likely used the word "arrested" purely for emotive reasons, it is still very unprofessional and cringeworthy of someone of this role. Someone who is responsible for the monetary policy of a large country as Nigeria should always try to avoid blatantly false statements because the markets are very sensitive to his utterances. Also, some people will mistakenly believe falsity that comes out of his mouth, regardless of his emotive intentions. False statements by Emefiele can have catastrophic consequences to investor confidence in our economy, which could further erode the Naira; this is fact.

Have a good night.

Chinom:
I was really not in the mood to post any comment on NL today, but your choice of words really pissed me off. In your simple, naive and moronic mind, you made a very intelligent statement. In reality, what you posted is complete garbage. Emefiele's use of the word ' Arrested' was just intended to drive home his point to stubborn Nigerians who insist on paying in Dollar into their accounts and withdrawing Dollar whenever they wish despite the fact that our national currency is the NAIRA.
What Nigerian banks are doing now is exactly what obtains in US and Europe. If you bring in your dollars or Euros, the bank will just convert it to Naira and credit your Naira account. If you do not like that, take your dollar to the parallel market, change it to Naira and come and deposit in your Naira account. That is a brilliant decision. It's the only way we can save, as well regain respect for our own currency.
I would like the banks to even go a step further and close all domiciliary accounts in foreign currencies.

Emefiele knows what he's doing. You, my friend, is just a phony dickhead.
BusinessRe: It’s N209 To $1 As Appetite For Dollars Falls by Antiparticle(m): 8:51pm On Aug 03, 2015
While I'm somewhat indifferent about the tactics that Emefiele and the banking industry employ to protect the Naira, I am disappointed that he (Emefiele) spoke like an uninformed illiterate on a topic he should know more about.

It is absolutely not true that you will be arrested if you try to pay Pound Sterling or Euro into a US bank account. I really can't believe that this guy is the CBN governor! How clueless.

Usually if you try to pay Euro or Pound Sterling into a US bank account, the bank will either refuse it or convert it to US dollars at a rate of their choosing (and with your consent). I have done this before!

Wonders shall never end. Emefiele needs to read or talk to his counterparts abroad so he can learn. I weep for my country.


"You cannot go to the United States where the dollar is spent and try to pay pound sterling into an account, because you will be arrested. Neither can you go into the United States and carry Euros into that economy and tell them to pay it into an account for you; you will be arrested."
CelebritiesRe: Timaya's Alleged Rape Victim, Shella_b Releases Hospital Rape Report by Antiparticle(m): 7:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
@trapQ and @cescky, you guys are comic relief! hahaha. Abeg, make una squash the beef jor.
TravelRe: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Antiparticle(m): 7:05pm On Aug 01, 2015
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CelebritiesRe: Timaya's Alleged Rape Victim, Shella_b Releases Hospital Rape Report by Antiparticle(m): 6:05pm On Aug 01, 2015
Dude, from the emboldened part of your writeup, I am left with the conclusion that you are a rape apologist and rape proponent or even an "inadvertent" rapist yourself. That you reach the assumption that a woman's "No No No" is undoubtedly a result of shyness is problematic. The best way to not be an inadvertent rapist is to be clear and sure that the woman really wants to have sex with you.

If a woman keeps saying "No No No", it is safe to assume that she doesn't want to have sex with you, unless you are very sure that she means the opposite which to me doesn't make sense. I understand that some Nigerian women may say "No No No" when they don't mean it, it is your duty to educate them that you will not proceed and you will leave whenever they say this -- this will help both of you to be on the same page in the future. So please next time a woman says "No No No", you should assume that she means it or at least tell her your interpretation of what she just said! It is all about communication. This costs you nothing, but it saves a woman from the indignity of being forced into what she didn't agree to do (even if you don't call it rape).

It is shameful that you automatically dismiss Timaya's accuser's assertions just because she is a woman. Now I don't know if she is telling the truth, but I won't dismiss her claims as you just did. Please reformat your brain. How would you feel if your sister was forced into sex without her full consenthuh?!!!

Btw, I am a guy.

GentleToks:
She has successfully brought Timaya down already as far as US is concerned. Timaya should stay away from anything US cos the authority would bang him up while the trial and the rest of d rape procedure goes on; we are talking about years here.

The best Timaya could do is to get a sound lawyer to fight the case of on his behalf if that is allowed in US. And the cost of this alone might send Timaya back to poverty circle.

It's quite sad that this lady has destroyed this guy music career in US and it is obvious that it wasn't a rape.

What happened btw Timaya and this lady was the usual No No No response that usually accompanied a shy lady or first timer girlfriends' response to a sexual advance from their boyfriends/husbands even housewives do say No No No to sex sometimes while the husband keep trying his luck. In Nigeria, it's a natural norm. Sometimes, a girlfriend's No to a sexual advance does not always mean No and that was Timaya thought in this instance but unknown to him that this lady has another plan for him. This was what Timaya did and this lady capitalised on it......
CrimeRe: Police Round Up 12 Teenage Suspects Over Lesbianism (vanguard News) (photos) by Antiparticle(m): 5:09am On Jul 22, 2015
I don tire for Naija people o. When I read the commentary under articles like this one, my heart weeps for our country.

But then, comments like yours give me twinkling glimmers of hope. :-)

cococandy:
One's gotta keep trying until a few get it.
CrimeRe: Police Round Up 12 Teenage Suspects Over Lesbianism (vanguard News) (photos) by Antiparticle(m): 5:03am On Jul 22, 2015
I totally agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, most of the sheep on this forum can't think this far.


cococandy:
The teenagers among them are underage.
They are victims in this case.
They have been raped and justice should be sought for them.
What a twisted scenario.
Instead of protecting them from the Sharks they've associated themselves with, they are being prosecuted.


Those adults among them should be held for recruiting teenage kids into sex and cultism related activities.
CrimeRe: Police Round Up 12 Teenage Suspects Over Lesbianism (vanguard News) (photos) by Antiparticle(m): 10:21pm On Jul 21, 2015
People need to take a chill pill. Lesbianism shouldn't be a crime. The occultism part is a different story, but even still it sounds like something out of a tabloid; thus it makes no sense for the police to just arrest them without any hard evidence that infers or establishes guilt.

I weep for my country.
Christianity EtcRe: Three Arguments For God's Existence by Antiparticle(m): 8:21pm On Jul 08, 2015
In the interest of brevity, this johnydon22 response mirrors my position on your original post.
johnydon22:
[/quote][quote author=UyiIredia post=34367409]I made the same arguments on another site and couldn't convince atheists there. Maybe I'll have better luck here . . . OR NOT !

1) The existence of the universe demands an explanation. The order of the physical universe which ensures it adheres to laws which can be inferred suggests an intelligence behind the universe.

2) The genetic code in living organisms precludes the possibility they arose naturally. Natural processes CAN'T give rise to codes which don't follow natural laws. As humans, we know that codes are always made by conscious effort so the presence of codes in living things is grounds to infer that God exists.

3) Consciousness in man is not explainable by materialistic means. Emergence can't explain consciousness since typically it deals with new physical properties that arise due to complex interactions. But the consciousness isn't physical and so can't be explained by purely material means moreso since physical things lack consciousness. This is good grounds to believe that a God that effects consciousness exists.

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