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I would like to start by saying that men have tried to find and see God for countless centuries and millennia but without success. John 5:37; 1 Tim. 6:16; 1 Peter 1:8 and 1 John 4:12 tells us that no man has been able to see God. There are apparently two reasons men have not been able to see God.

First Reason. The first reason is that Col. 1:15 and 1 Tim. 1:17 reveal that God is invisible. So we should not be surprised that God cannot be found in the heavens with telescopes or by space exploration. He cannot be found by traveling to the planet Mars, the next nearest star or the farthest star. Since God is an invisible being, man cannot normally see Him. Man can only see God when God allows man to see Him. So Moses asked God in Exodus 33:18 to allow Him to see God. Initially, God said, “No!”

Second Reason. The second reason that men cannot see God is that if and when they see God, they die. That is the essence of what God told Moses in Exodus 33:20,

You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live! Exodus 33:20 (NASB)

That is, Moses did not see God’s face according to verse 21, but Moses could see other parts of God. Listen to Exodus 33: 21-23,

Then the LORD said, “Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock; and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen.” Exodus 33:21-23

Here we discover that Moses was allowed to see God’s back but not His face. We should not think that God has a literal face and back just as we do, and we should not think that God is composed of different animal or human parts. So Moses saw something called God’s back, whatever that was. Moses could not see God’s face. We should not take this to mean that God has a human face. How shall we understand that? If I want to see one of my friends, I expect to see his or her face and not their back. So Moses did not see God fully. He saw God’s back, whatever that was, because God allowed it.

Now let’s consider several passages in the Bible that say people did see God. We want to ask in what sense did people see God.

The first example is the apostle John who wrote both the gospel of John and the book of Revelation. It is important to notice that the same author wrote both books since he describes God and God’s throne room in Revelation 4, but yet in John 1:18 he says, “No one has seen God at any time.” How can both be true? In what sense did John see God in Revelation 4? The answer is found in the fact that the description of God in Revelation 4 was obtained by a vision. So John saw a vision of God but not God while he (John) was still in human flesh.

The second example, is found in Deut. 34:10 where we are told that Moses had an extraordinary relationship with God. Here is the verse,

Since that time no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face . . . Deut. 34:10

Here we are told that Jacob also spoke with God face-to-face in Gen. 32:24-30. So in what sense did Jacob see God “face to face”? What does it mean to see God face to face? Deut. 5:4 gives us the answer when it says that Moses saw God on Mt. Sinai face to face. Both passages refer to the fact that Moses saw God’s back. It does not mean that Moses saw God’s face. “Face-to-face” is an expression indicating that communication has taken place between man and God.

In another passage, Exodus 24:10-11, we are told that Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and the seventy leaders went up on Mt. Sinai and saw God. Listen to these verses,

. . . and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Exodus 24:10

The verse reveals that they saw God’s feet and the sea of glass beneath the throne of God. The apostle John describes the same thing in Rev. 4:6. But notice that nothing is said about what part(s) of God they saw. Did they see only His feet and back? It would appear from the other passages that we have considered that they did not see His face. That is what no man can see and live to talk about it.

In Genesis 17:1 Abraham saw a theophany or an appearance of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament called the Angel of the Lord. So when the passage says that the Lord appeared to Abraham and said, “I am God Almighty; Walk before Me, and be blameless,” God did not appear as himself but as the Angel – a theophany.

For completeness, 1 Kings 3:5; 9:2; and 11:9 say that King Solomon saw God in a dream but not in person. Isaiah 6:1 and 5 say that Isaiah saw God. That is, he saw a vision of God but not God in reality or he was not bodily in heaven in the presence of God. Ezekiel 3:23 says that Ezekiel saw the glory of God but not God’s face. Acts 7:55-60 says that the first Christian martyr saw a vision of the glory of God and Jesus in His resurrection body. That is, he did not bodily go to heaven and see God.

We shall conclude with three verses. The first two verses are John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12 which say that “No one has seen God at any time.” No man while still being on this earth has truly seen God at any time. No man has seen God’s face


quote author=kobosmalls post=48446353]Exodus 24:9-11New International Version (NIV)

9 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank.

Compare.....
◄ 1 Timothy 6:16 ►
New International Version
who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen

God being all invisible and a spirit, which one do we consider right here?
Please consider and discuss the issue that this meme raises.[/quote]

No it is not possible to be a Christian until you are born again, as a matter of fact you are not a Christian if you are not born again, you can only become a Christian the day you give your life to Christ meaning you becoming born again,
HOW DO YOU BECOME BORN AGAIN?

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9‭-‬10 KJV

This is the only way you become become again.

Rayreezy:
PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND THINGS A LOT, MAKING ONE CONFUSE,
SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. CAN YOU BE A CHRISTIAN WITHOUT BEING THE BORN AGAIN ?

Yes God is always willing to forgive you because of his love for us, the Bible says before we became sin he already death and payed for our sin but that doesn't mean you should keeping doing it, the devil will use that to use your mind wrongly and you know that your mind will result in you actions and am sure that will not be good.

LEXYCOM:
This morning, i went into a pornography site and after that I masturbated....... I was fully aware that the act was bad and still I did it intentionally.......have lost my peace since after the act. Pls will God still forgive me?

I will like to share some few points with you and I hope it will be of a great blessing to you. Now one of the things you should do in matters like this is to pray and if you can fast about it please do so. Pray that God should speak to you than in you place of prayer spend some time sayings nothing and I believe you will hear God speak to you, another thing you have to do is to spend quality time studying God's word, I will also recommend that you submit yourself to a ministry where you will be taught by a man of God, this kind of submission is full submission not one leg outside and another inside.
This are some few things you should do.

Jamesime:
I started smoking when I ws JSS1 class, do to the African Shrine area I grow up from,people know me as trouble make & no mother will allow his son to play or make friend with me than. I thank God a man of God came preach to me & my friends when I was SS1 class ,& joint the man God Church than but is not easy just like that because the kind of shame I face because some of my friends make jest of me than. I joint d pastor prayer warrior group ,and God is using me in d gift of vision than. I stop attending d man of God Church because he said I have d calling,the same year which is 2007 another man that was putting white garment which I don't know ,said to me I have a calling.
for the past five years I be going for deliverance from one great men of God to another which I don't want to mention their name ,if thing will move fine for me, but things keep getting worst. I went to see a man of God ,he gave me prayer point to pray & he said God will review something to me,that the last day of my prayer I should come and see him. I went to see the man of God & I told the man of God what I dream of,he said if he was the one that told me ,I will not believe it. pls I need your advice concerning the calling because am confuse for now because I dream of a man putting on white cloth that gave me a bible in d river and the man of God have interpret it to me but I don't know where to start

When you give your life to Christ you know who to worship, so give your life to Christ first

storm00:
lol which of the set of gods should i worship.
1 GOD, Jesus(the 2nd Lord, the son of god, the prophet) and the holy spirit.
2 GOD,jesus,mary

1 The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11:26, after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says: "[...] the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."


2 The Meaning of the Word Bible

The word Bible comes from the Koine Greek word ta biblia or “the books" because the Bible contains 66 books. It is literally ta (the) biblia (books) and sometimes called in the plural, biblias or biblios. It is a collection of 40 authors written over at least 1,500 years. Most authors of the different books of the Bible did not know each other, yet the accuracy and consistency is miraculous. The Hebrew Bible contains 24 books that are in the Old Testament in the Protestant Bible. The Catholic Bible contains more than 66 books because it holds books of the Apocrypha or Deuterocanonical books like Tobit, Judith, and 1 and 2 Maccabees. The word Apocrypha actually means “hidden."


Strictly speaking then, the Bible is called the Bible because it is a collection of books and these books are inspired by God and said to be written by the Holy Spirit so the Bible is actually God speaking (2 Timothy 3:16).

What the Bible Says about Itself

The Bible is God speaking. Why do we say that? Because there are 418 times that the Bible uses the term “Thus says the Lord” and then there are 48 sayings of “God said“, but if you add the times when it said, “And Jesus said" we have over a thousand more sayings that the Bible is God’s Word or God speaking. The total amounts to about 2,000 times that the Bible declares that God is speaking, either in the text or by Jesus Christ Himself, Who is also can be called God.

Christian also means the following

* A believer in Christianity
* A individual who seeks to live his or her life according to the principles and values taught by Jesus Christ

3 One can pick any day to worship God and beside we should note that is not only Saturdays and Sundays we worship God, Sunday is a day picked by the Christians to come together officially to worship and there is nothing wrong my that.

I wouldn't want to go further than this on this question but if you want to know from the days of Jesus and even from the old testament then I will have to explain about the Sabbath day, but there will be no need for that because we are not under that law.

4 Is there anything wrong if you decide to go visit a place to lean more about what you study or hear? If you you are on Holidays and you have the money and time is it work for you to pay a visit to outside your country even state to see what you may have heard about in time passed? If that is not wrong than going for pilgrimage is not wrong.

5 Although "church" has come to mean a building or organization, the original Greek ekklesia meant "a gathering, assembly" and is the basis for our word "congregation." And that is what God designed the church to be—a group of people. The definition of a "church" as a separate building specifically for worship would have been foreign to the early believers, as they met in homes. When a building was mentioned in the New Testament, it was always in relation to the church that met there (Romans 16:5; 1 Corinthians 16:19; Colossians 4:15; Philemon 1:2). The church was the people, not the building. With the legitimization and affluence of Christianity in later years, the "church" came to mean the building where people met. Now, it often is used to mean a particular denomination. But the truest meaning of the word "church" is the group of believers.

Christ is the head of the church, and the church is the body of Christ (Ephesians 1:22-23). The members of the body are all Christians. "For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. For the body does not consist of one member but of many" (1 Corinthians 12:12-14). The universal church is defined as all who have received the Holy Spirit, no matter their location, denomination, or era. To ensure order and to provide fellowship, the universal church is also divided into local churches.

The universal church is the body of Christ, composed of everyone who has received Christ as their Savior. It is comprised of every believer from every country and every time from Pentecost (Acts 2) until Christ's return. Although a specific denomination may teach a more accurate view of God and His Word than another, the universal church recognizes no denominations, just individual believers joined together in one body. No matter the denomination or the size of a local church, the purpose is to do corporately what all who name the name of Jesus are to do individually—glorify God in worship, obey and honor Him in all we do, and encourage one another to do the same.

The church is not a building; it is a group of people. It is not a denomination; it is everyone who has received the Holy Spirit. And it doesn't grant salvation; it is people, loving and glorifying God and teaching others about a saving knowledge of Christ. As believers, we are joined with all Christians from Peter to the smallest child in the body of Christ. The local church is where the members of the universal church can apply 1 Corinthians 12: encouraging, teaching, and building one another up in the knowledge and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

storm00:
1 they call themselves christains yet there is nothing like christain in bible.
2 they name thier book bible yet there is nothing like bible in bible.
3 they worship on sunday (the day pagans worship sun) or saturday yet there is nothing like worship on sunday or saturday.
4 they go for pilgrimage yet there is nothing like go for pilgrimage in bible.
5 they use church yet there is nothing like church in bible.

This are some few points I want us to note.

*Christainty is not a region. It is this life of God made real to a man. When you become a Christian you should know that you are not called into a region but to leave out the life of God, in other words you become a partaker of the Divine life of God that Jesus Christ brought to us.

* Christianity is a called to fellowship. This kind of fellowship is with God the Father and with His son Jesus Christ

* Christianity is a life of good responsibility. This means want to come to Christ my making him the Lord over your life you become carrier of this great responsibility and that responsibility is to tell everyone about the good news of Christ Salvation

There are so many points but let be stop here for now.

Hassanamed:
Please can a sincere Muslim brother in the house help me to answer these questions without bias?

* What is the Islamic stand on terrorist attacks, such as those that took place in Madrid on March 11, 2004, NY on September 11, 2001, and repeated "suicide bombings" in Israel?

*Does the ways of our Prophet (pbuh) in the Quran, encourages the terrorists?

* why don't the Christians carry out suicide bombings or terrorism?

* Where do Muslim extremists get their textual justifications?

* why was Jihad in the qu'ran?

* Who can declare "Jihad"? Can IS declare "Jihad"?

* Why does Islam teach hatred for non-Muslims?

* Why does the Quran order the subjugation of all non-Muslims?

* Why are fellow Muslims scared of anyone who is from the Middle East?

*Allah bears me witness, If I don't get good answers, I will consider the worse thing on my religious faith, because I can't remain speechless when my Christian friends put forward strong argument with me concerning Nigeria situation anymore.

Wow!! Thank God your eyes are opened to this glorious Gospel. Now I will like to let you know that is now your responsibility to grow in the things of God and please always use every opportunity you have to let someone know about God, is your responsibility to share this light.
Congratulations Bro.

Femmymata2:
Glory be to God in the highest. I was a big fool denying the existence of my Creator, But I'm grateful to God for arresting me and delivering me from the power of darkness. I've accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour, to serve and do the will of God for the rest of my life. The only loser here is Satan!!!. I wish other athiest will follow suit, there is no other way but Jesus. Release yourself from the bondage of the devil before it's too late.. Thanks to all the Christians who always preached to me,don't stop your kingdom advancement effort. It will speak at the end

That is not true, Christ will and has never lied, everything that he said will come to pass in the last day are happening and his coming is very soon

urahara:
At least Mohammed s own is beta . christ that prophesied wrongly about his coming. Get this into ur skull. No jewish man is going to appear in the sky

Every soul belongs to God all mighty, the life you leave is not even yours, you are just a care taker

ifenes:
Your soul maybe

I don't really know what you want to see inside your body that you visit the hospital every time. Telling doctors I just want to know what in wrong am feeling somehow, do you even know you don't need to work by feelings but God's word.

Don't you know what your body is ? Is the temple of the Holy Gos.

The problem of many people is that they know too much, what you know is the problem.

What God wanted for Adam was to leave by revelation but he ( Adam ) wanted to know the difference between good and evil so he ate the fruit and his eyes were opened and he had another kind of knowledge but he would have worked by revelation, we are called to work by revelation. ( Christians )

When you know too much from your head it makes you a man but when you know from God it makes you leave the. life of God ( Zoe) .

#wisdomtalks

Study the Bible very well mostly about the end times and you know that there is God because all most everything he said will happen is happening already he talked about people like this who will say there is no God, even someone who will say they are not for God or the devil, but the truth is rather you believe it or not there is God

Splinz:
For real, SirWere. The evidence is why we're here!

Pastor Chris is a giver he focused on his calling as a man of God, Rhapsody of Realities is not about the money is about what you receive from it, that is why we are sending it to the ends of the earth, there was a day I was not not feeling too well and I couldn't eat or stand I was just on my bed than I saw a copy of an old Rhapsody bedside my bed, I picked it and started studying it and in the around up Pastor said being to do what you couldn't do before and I beloved it and got up and started working, looked for something to eat I was still feeling the pain but Pastor Chris said in the Rhapsody don't look at the pain look at what you want and that was what I just did , that was just how I got healed that day. Don't joke with your study of Rhapsody of Realities It will change your mind, the way you think,talk and all about you.

mabell:
You know, some of you dont really know who men of God are. Every pastor I know is a giver, Pastror Chris is one of the greatest givers ive known. You you know how much he spend to reach the world for Jesus. Rhapsody is not for making money, He gave 10 million free copies to Nigeria last year,right now we are didtributing free bibles to millions.He is so focussed on his calling and assigment that he doesnt even recognise if critics exist. If pastor Chris knows what i am doing , he will rather commend it.

Yes Jesus said the sin against the Holy Spirit will not been forgiven

englishmart:
some people say if you sin against the holy spirit, you will never be forgiven.
Does it mean that if you blaspheme against the holy spirit, your case is judged already? ( automatically you're going to hell)

Do you the bible at all, you are calling a man of God fake, iif you can only be with this man of God for just a week you will love him more than others and if you have that mean you have allowed the evil on the come into your heart and please find your way back before it gets too late

An2elect2:
Joe agbaje transferred to another place to spread his ministry of deception. Who still listens to such a man

God is watching all of you.

I can only pray for you, the bible says that how can they love you if they didn't love the Father which is in heaven (quote]

In short oyakhilome is sending him there to promote his church business I hear pastor agbaje is also good at staging miracles.[/quote]

Sometimes is very good when you just stay without saying anything because you don't have anything to say, do you know who Pastor Joe mean to people
? Do know the impact he has made in our lives? Please is better you say nothing .

Image123:
From Bayelsa to Daura, Katsina ba? What's congratulatory about a transfer anyway, was he struggling or complaining over there?

I was so surprised to hear that, I'm so full of joy that I left with him

seedgreen:
Wow wow wow!!!

Was so surprised when Rev Dr Chris Oyakhilome announced the transfer of our own very pastor Joe from CHRIST EMBASSY Bayelsa to ...

We love u so dearly sir.

You have truly been a son in God's vineyard.

Kudos!

Please is very important that we understand that Christianity isn't a religion, Christianity is the leaving the life of God

Edroom:
Have you ever taught of this? Sometimes many of us especially Christians face many things , in which we have to endure for us not to sin. We often deny ourselves of things all because of going to heaven. Let say you reach heaven and there is nothing like Christian or Muslim what will you do?

For me , I still prefer the life I live being a Christian even if there is non.

1 Who is Jesus?
2 What did He come to do?
3 How relevant is He today?


Christianity is not a religion, Christianity is truly a Relationship, a living Relationship, when you get to study about the person of Jesus and what He says about us you get to know that Christianity is not a religion, but a true relationship with God the Father and Jesus the Son through the help of the Holy Spirit.

Religion is man's way to get to God the Father, but people forget what Jesus said that He is the way the only way to the Father, you can't come to God your own way you can only come to Him through Jesus and that is the only way.


1 Who is Jesus?
* He is the Son of God

Romans 1:2-4 KJV
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

* He is the saviour of the world

John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.)

1 John 4:14 KJV
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world,

That is not a promise it is a law meaning that everyone that believe in Jesus should not perish but to have ever lasting life

Everlasting life doesn't mean that you will not die again, one thing we have to understand is that everyone will leave for ever because there is a world after this physical world, that is where people will look for death and the will not find,

When you receive this everlasting life that Jesus Christ brought to us it means you will leave your life forever in God kingdom

* He is Lord of heaven and earth

That means the name of Jesus Christ has power in heaven and in the earth and even under the earth.

Matthew 28:18 KJV

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

2 What did He come to do?

Jesus did not die for his believe but He gave his self in his free will. Many say Jesus came to start a great religion but is not true

*He came to take away the sin of the World ( to take my place of sin and paid for me )

John 1:29 KJV
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

* He came to give us eternal life, ( eternal life mean the life of God )
John 10:10 KJV

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

( life for your Spirit, life for soul, life for your body. )

*He came to make us Sons of God
1 John 3:1-2 KJV

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 How relevant is He today?
Mark 16:17-18 KJV

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recove
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