https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3umXU_qWc

caukerzee: ;DThat's the oldest trick in the book used for dodging arguments. Like seriously
Anyway, I hope you invest that ''time'' in well offloading those r.etarded feminist ideologies from your brain.
It will give you a longer life span. Believe me it works.

hmm.. you have issues.
me, i'm a feminist for life. Why do you feel threatened?
everyone is entitled to their ideology whether na christianity abi islam abi conservative, liberal, feminist, vegeterian or pagan. 4 real.
although I think everyone should be feminist. all men included we should all be feminist.

I don't "feel" oppressed. But I do believe that things could be much better for women in this world. I read a lot so I know how things were, how things are, and how things could be.

if you want to start an anti-women campaign. u r free to do so. start by joining senator yerima in forcing little girls into marriage. instead of providing education and a future for them.

I see so many young men working hard just to ensure a future for themselves and being a young adult (at heart) I felt the need to spread this word.

same applies to young women as well. all young adults (male and female) need good financial habits.

caukerzee: Mad?? You're the one who's mad here. LMAO
Once again, they cannot provide valid responses.

well, responding to you is like trying to explain to a mad man on the street the health benefits of taking a bath. not worth my time

caukerzee: Feminism is just stupid. Jut a bunch of greedy and selfish bunch of females seeking for privileges they do not deserve.
Feminism would make sense if if fought for equality (??), but it seeks superiority which is plain s.stupid and selfish.

why u mad?

POPE II: M0r0n so racism is justified lwkmd, and how many black American do what you said? Brainwashed coon, uncle tom tell us more about how racism is good and justified because some people didn't respect theaw ? Meanwhile divorce more of a white thing in the USA because the rate of marriage is low among black Americans next time before spewing rubbish do your homework or better get educated. As if white always pay child support. Fcking primitive slave

fool, nobody said racism was justified. racism is a feeling of superiority of one race over another.
just as sexism is the feeling of superiority of one sex or gender over another.
if blacks are economically and socially inferior. REALITY. It is understandable that whites, asians etc will feel superior to blacks in general.
just as many men feel superior to women esp. in a country like Nigeria.where even a whole notable scholar like Wole Soyinka is known to refer to women as "mere domestic appendages." A woman ought not to be a mere domestic appendage in the home. She needs an independent source of sustenance and needs to create a future for herself outside of the home in case of unforeseen problems like divorce so she can be ready for it.

Based on my former job, I can say without a doubt that our white clients were WAY more likely to have all their papers (and that include child and spousal supports) in order than blacks are.
where do you think the term "deadbeat dad" comes from? and why do you think its more popular in "black american" culture?

you need to check your facts because divorce is actually HIGHER among blacks in USA. blacks have the highest rate of divorce which makes it sad because they also have low marriage rates. It is a huge FAILURE all around.

I love how you conveniently ignored the part of my post about personal responsibility. The reason alimony and child support exists in civilized nations is to relieve tax payer burden. A place like Nigeria without a functioning legal system, has neither!

bukatyne:
Thanks
I am not a lady who believes she is equal to men and still have entitlement mentality.
I like to earn my respect and dues because they are not lying around anywhere

you have a right to believe what you want. Next time you get a job, get pregnant, and your boss doesn't fire you for being pregnant. Thank the feminists who fought for the rights for employees not to discriminate against mothers in the work place.
There used to be a time when only single, unmarried women could have jobs. and if you got pregnant you were fired. no such thing as maternity leave that allowed you to come back after childbirth.
is that also an entitlement? letting women take time off for maternity leave? letting women past age 30yr old be allowed to work instead of being a proper housewife. If you see female civil servants, there was once a time when those women had to fight to be equally recognized. things we take for granted today.

keep running your mouth while you benefit from everything feminists fought for us to achieve thinking you earned it yourself.

shoboy9: It is "there is neither male nor female in christ". Everyone should learn to work. If u choose to leave ur husband then leave his property for him. Go and work! Too many women are being raised to be materialistic and lazy. A worse combination to make one into a thief and a parasite i cannot imagine.

This of course is the reason behind the problem that nobody is talking about. A man doesn't have the sole right to be the breadwinner in the home. If there are more female breadwinners, this problem will not affect women disproportionately.
This is why I support feminism.
Even a single mother will not have this kind of problem. because she will have a job at least and not depend on any man.


we like to talk about how "low" divorce rates are in naija when in reality many women are staying in torturous or loveless marriages so that they will "save face" not become beggars on the street. There should be a way to do more for women. At least a man can throw his wife out of his home when he is no longer interested or pretend she doesn't exist while he carries on a relationship elsewhere. women almost always have to endure. If they divorce, they become the subject of what this thread is about. there is no safety net for them unless they find a source of stable income or can find another man right away. It is that period in between that is very dangerous.

The mistake OP made is that he is comparing civilized people to uncivilized people.

Even in America and UK, majority of the black population DO NOT pay their divorced spouse child support (I witnessed this first hand in my former job where we will always have to recommend our black male clients to lawyers because majority of them owe child support and therefore do not qualify for our services. they are always looking for ways to skirt the law not realizing that it will follow them to their graves). There is a sub-population in developed countries that comprise of black people who behave just as if they are in a third world country. This is the reason why racism exists. Racism by definition is the belief of superiority of a race over another. heck if I were a different race, I would feel superior to the black race as well.

At the end of the day, part of the reason the law exists in civilized countries is to reduce the burden on tax payers and government. If you marry a woman and she raised your kids without having a means of financial sustenance for herself. Why should tax payers be d ones removing her from destitution when the blame lies on the dissolution of your marriage.

The alterative is to have the government provide for the welfare of these women. In fact, in a place like Nigeria, that may be the only way. Black people in general are not interested at all in taking personal responsibility for anything. we will prefer the "government" to do everything for us after all. So maybe we need the law-makers to create a "women's welfare tax" that will provide income to divorced women for a period of 6 months until they can find a job to sustain themselves without a husband. This will be funded by income tax.

bigx: Can see you edited your post.
That said, I won't get in an argument with you, woke early to do more important things.
Enjoy

you have made your point,
bigx "chops" foreign currency. we have heard.

now waka pass. bye

rman: Only very few women, and I mean, very few, can reason logically. The society didn't place women at a disadvantage position, women did. Ever wonder why the educated and employed ones still depend on men?

It is the duty of all parents, to raise girl child right. All these warped logic is due to years of girls been raised with a ridiculous sense of entitlement. All the women emancipation stuff is not really about gender equality, it is about getting more out of men by doing nothing just because you are a lady. In fact, I'm beginning to suspect ladies love for marriage isn't about love and family, it is about stability in her life. The only guaranteed source of livelihood women see always has something to do with husbands. I have met single girls with good income still searching for guys that will take care of them. Can't u take care of yourself and simply narrow your search to men that won't take advantage of you?

After divorce, a woman deserves compensation, IMO , only under these circumstances :

- They both built a joint business together during marriage.
- The man truncated her career or business by making her a full house wife.
- if she has custody of the kids.

Anything outside those three conditions is a complete fraud and shouldn't be encouraged.

GBAM. Feminism is the solution to the problem. all the submission and dependence on men will not help her once is is being kicked to the curb.
female children are being raised to be dependent on men. to see men as their king and protector. and what if these men don't treat them right? the woman becomes a destitute on d street or resort to selling her body because she has nothing else to sustain herself.

in western nations, we are approaching a point where women are the breadwinner in 50% of all households. This is how things should be. I look forward to d day when both men and women will be affected by divorce. instead of women only bearing the financial brunt.

bigx:
Location reads Ph/birmingham/lagos
Selective vision
Foreign currency on a platter means "chopping" foreign currency, nothing wrong with that last time I checked.
When I mean "leave", I mean "settle" like a 2nd class citizen, there's a big difference.

Ok, now that you have let the world know that you are "chopping" foreign currency. give yourself a round of applause and go and sit ur butt down in a corner. bye

all you are doing is strengthening my conviction that 99% of Nigerians will take the opportunity to LEAVE Nigeria.

what kind of a question is this?
go and invest your money. buy a home, save for your retirement etc. since you are not yet ready for marriage.
you don't seem like a matured or responsible person.

bigx:
I'm not a Politician as you stated earlier, I've a valid US, UK and Schenghen visa and I have NO intentions of leaving Nigeria.
You shouldn't generalise, not everyone sees "abroad" as the end to all issues

good for you. when I said "politician" I am generally referred to the priviledged class that travel in and out of Nigeria as they see fit. These are the same people who tend to speak for other nigerians and pretend that all other nigerians are just as happy to be in Nigeria. and things are fine and dandy. why do you have those visas? why not tear them up if you have no intentions of ever leaving Nigeria?
tear those visas up. simple

I just looked at your profile and you seem to contradict yourself. your profile picture (of foreign currency being shown off on a platter) contradicts what you say in this post. same with your location. unless birmingham is some village in Nigeria that I don't know about.

coogar:

prenups are not applicable in the UK. why do you think UK is the divorce capital of the world? why do you think simon cowell isn't married?

i'm sure that has more to do with cultural values. ie leaving a loveless or abusive marriage vs choosing to stay in one.
not everyone in the UK is a millionaire. although i'm sure you fancy yourself as one.
marriage is mostly a middle class institution anyway. the people who are most likely not to conform are upper class and lower class. these are where u will see majority of unmarried couples.
Oprah winfrey isn't married either. she just has a lifelong partner.

what's this your obsession with multibillionaires?
the average family is middle class (or poor in naija's case)
if you are a multi-billionaire, why not just sign a pre-nup or better still, don't get married? The same goes with rich women.
abeg jor

this is so true!!!
there are school teachers who beat the children like they are beating goats.
many parents do the same which is even more sad.

coogar:
yes o!
men should be steps ahead of the law. i dey kampe. the woman that will take half of my capital is not born yet.

you live abroad. you may live in ur mom's basement or your baby mama's apartment but in any case. the law will always be ahead of you. no offense. you need to move back to naija if you are looking for lawlessness.
in anycase, I see you as a baby daddy than a married man anyway. Just know that if you don't pay your child support. the govt doesn't forget. they will take the money out of your pension. same with unpaid alimony. that is if you don't end up in jail.
same goes for women who owe child support and alimony.

POPE II: my life belongs to me, you wish I was all that keep guessing and throwing tantrums , hopefully when we are done here you will know that Nigeria is Nigeria .

yea of course. even Boko haram members to have their lives to live. they may be cotrributing to Nigeria's demise but all of you are entitled to continue to destroy the country. Nigeria is Nigeria.
what else is new?

POPE II:
Not everyone is looking for an opportunity to leave,

ok. good. if the opportunity does present itself, you are a bastard if you take it. stay in Nigeria as you claim you will.
simple.
even coogar is typing from his mother's basement in London. hmmm what do I know

lol @ "hide your money in all the obscure countries in the world"
coogar, i didn't know you were a multibillionaire o. na so u dey create swiss account so? hahaha too funny
everybody is entitled to their fantasy sha

POPE II: well, we can assume that you pulled it from your empty brain

reality speaks my dear misogynist.
you didn't answer the question for a reason. did you receive an opportunity to go abroad that you refused?
"mr. honest Nigerian" clearly, u r being dishonest with your foul mouth.

all these broke bachelors with "baby mama" issues talking out of the corners of their wide mouths. this is entertaining.
better go and find a sugar mommy.

POPE II: they are confused and emotional. There are no happy endings when divorce is involved, I ain't paying any Damn penny to anyone. And I keep the children

you seem like a guy who would be married to a sugar mommy anyway. She will be d one kicking you to the curb. and no, you ain't keeping the children. what will u do, hire ppl to kidnap the kids?

POPE II: not everyone wants to leave, get That in your thick skull .

well, that's why I said 99%
the other 1%, who refuse opportunity to go abroad, more grease to their elbow. I have never heard of such a case sha.

did you get an opportunity to go abroad that you rejected? if not, then you do not count as part of the 1%. you just never got the opportunity. let's keep it at that

Snaaz: Its so strange how women rant about this equality thing and tend to throw it away when money is involved. A man has to help you in the kitchen, help you take care of the kids but when after divorce, you want a salary from him for once being his wife. Ladies stop confusing yourselves. Why can't a man be settled by his wife after divorce? Shey you are a woman, the emotionally stronger and more hardworking gender. Pls you can handle the divorce and you can as well go and work for your own money. I will take care of my kids but definitely not a former acquintance cos that's what a divorced wife is to me.

of course. ideally if we had gender equality, 50% of families in Nigeria will have a female breadwinner. in case of divorce, the husband will be entitled to alimony. it goes both ways and I support it 100%

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/05/grossman.adultery.alimony/
this is the story of a millionaire woman who divorced her husband in USA. the husband got a lot of money in alimony (temporary spousal support) after the divorce

POPE II: good riddance, we don't need women who use such foul language in Nigeria.
BTW talk for yourself , I don't want to leave and there are many like who also don't want to leave.

yea. only men are allowed to use foul language in naija. women who do should be stoned to death. I hear u. hahahaha
only in naija where women are delegated to the status of children.

be honest with yourself. you don't have d opportunity to leave. either that or you are senator yerima's son. helping to siphon the nation's wealth to your coffers. vacationing abroad every summer while claiming "I have no desire to leave"

logica: It appears in your dictionary, "civilized" is a synonym for "good treatment of women". Have you read Ibn Fadlan's accounts or not?

rotflmao. so should I also go and start reading D'banj's account of American civilization too? what exactly is your damn point?

what makes Ibn Fadlan such an important "expert" that his opinion should be a gold standard of what a civilization is?
abi you are also turning into Coogar? using all these so called "experts" to support your silly arguments.

rubbish. Reality speaks. u don't need to quote ibn fadlan (or whaever d nonentity is) for me or any KNOW that America is a more civilized place than Nigeria.

maybe you should take Ibn Fadlan's expert essays to Ayefele's band members and millions of other Nigerians who will risk their lives to escape the Nigerian jungle civilization hahaha.
http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/entertainment/316994-yinka-ayefele%E2%80%99s-three-band-members-vanish-in-us.html