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sending al mustafa to hell will be too generous. Is there no place worse than hell?

texazzpete:
Yes, you brainless dolt! The article clearly stated that the Fulani man tried to behead the victim. He lost his hand because he blocked the blade with it.

Then again, why should I be surprised that a man who cannot even spell the word 'difference' (which I could effortlessly spell in JSS1) cannot read written English properly?

You are a pusssy fart, does that change the fact that a Hausa man did chop off someones hand, which is their favorite past time. Mr I can spell difference in JSS1.

afam4eva:
Very soon evil spirits will start going to court.

You never see anything, no be person sue God the other day.

So the Fulani guy wanted to cut off the vulcanisers head, cos of cattle not allowed to graze. 

texazzpete:
Why did you not read the article before posting?

Does it make any deference in this case?

Why do Hausa/Fulani like to chop off peeps hands?

AU, whahala, no be the same AU wey no feet build em own house nai we go de get headache for!?

Good news.

worm:
^^^
I am just concern about the part that says police are running errands for them. Assuming this is true then how the hell will i run errands for people that will turn around and bomb/shoot me in the police station where i work? ok, if i am kept in the loop as to when the attack will take place, what happened to my colleagues whom i have respect for and wouldnt want them dead?

The police part is not making sense to me at all.

And what will the arabs gain in islamising Nigeria? This people are racists to the core. Forget that muslims go for hajj and worship with them. I am a muslim and i know this.

This boko guys are high on something period! They are a cult group that enjoys spilling human blood.

@ the bolded part, they will have more numbers of slaves. cos that is what all non Arab muslims are.

^^^ ok.

violent:
what's the point?. . All their expenses and bonuses added together is not even enough to feed President Jonathan for a year!

I see! carry on then.

Op, what is the point of this topic?

African rulers are all the same, what a shame. somebody should tell that old man to resign.

whahala dey sleep, yanga wan go wake am up.

Nice one Violet, this is what I wanted to see.

@topic, a poor man has no choice. is it shameful? yes! The Chinese are using this building to show to the world that they own this bitchh(Africa).

norrisman:
Luckily for me, I havent had the misfortune of living on N80 a day so I wont be able to break it down.  If u r based in Nigeria and live in the hood, it shouldnt be that difficult for you to find someone to share their experience of poverty with you. If you are abroad, I will oblige you with the phone number of one of my mums workers if he doesnt mind.

Finally when they say Nigerians live on less than $2 a day, it is an indicator, an average e.t.c and not literally N160/ day. I'll like to believe you are educated at least to SS3 so you shouldnt be asking silly questions about the breakdown of N80/day. If you live abroad, you must have seen charities say things like £2 a day will give Aisha clean drinking water. It doesnt literally mean, Aisha is going to buy £2 worth of pure water everayday, It just means that is a share of an amount required by a certain number of people to construct a borehole or to purify their water. comprehende?

I met up with a circle of 10 acquaintances today (all Nigerians) and asked them if and how they would consider it possible for one to survive on 80 Naira a day in Nigeria. None of them thought it possible.

Regarding your mum's workers and their 12,000 Naira salaries, perhaps your mum should investigate if they have been secretly helping themselves to her goods, just a thought.

Concerning £2 a day helping to provide Aisha with clean drinking water, why would you bring this up? Do these adverts claim that Aisha will live on your £2 a day alone? No, they don't. Your £2 are a contribution towards the total amount they need to supply her village with uncontaminated water. By the way, Aisha and her people do not survive on clean water alone, they need to clothe and feed themselves too. So I really don't know why you brought up this terrible example, it certainly did not advance your argument one bit.

Lastly, I deduce from your pointless post, which did not contain even a single convincing argument, that you do not have an answer to my question.

I rest my case.

Interesting development.

^^^ musiwa, maybe you will be able to explain to us how most Nigerian survive on 80 naira a day. what do you buy with it.

violent:
Those who live on 80 naira a day do not change their wardrobe as often as your argument suggested. You also wouldn't find them dining at expensive restaurants when it's cheaper to buy a "Congo" of rice for 50 bucks for the entire family.  And contrary to what you may think or what you may be used to, eating 3 square meals a day is actually seen as a misnorm for thousands of families. During my youth service, i met people who were used to eating full meals only at nights and snacking mostly during the day.

I am aware of what you are saying, But I still want to know what you can do with 80 naira in today's Nigeria.

norrisman:
So when he said he makes N4000 a day did he clarify if it was pure profit or total sales?

What about calculation above of a federal worker on N18000 which equates to $2.6/ day. It may sound like I am making up stories but I have a friend who has a petrol station who pays his attendants N4,000/mnth yes N4,000/mnth and expects them to sort themselves out by doing deals at the pump.

I am beginning to understand your confusion regarding this discussion, you have just proved my point. I have repeatedly tried to highlight that nobody survives on their ridiculously low wages alone - they find additional ways to generate income. You yourself have just conceded this (i.e. "doing deals at the pump". This is exactly the point I am trying to get across to you. And what you need to understand is the following: This additional income needs to be factored into their earnings. You cannot ignore it. It's what I call the 'Nigerian factor'.

People are forced to generate additional means of income. Everyone is doing it, because they have to. For example, you are aware that many civil servants often don't get their salary paid for months, right? Another example: the exploitation of children - in a poor family, everyone is a breadwinner. Thus the high rate of child abuse in Nigeria - the poor cannot afford for their children not to work, or beg. Another example: begging employers for extra money for emergencies, such as school fees or hospital bills. Many people are forced to beg their way through life. Another example: the necessity to bribe your way through to get things done. These people survive on bribes, because their salary could never sustain them.

The take-home message here is: Additional income, gained in the ways I described above (or otherwise), needs to be factored into the calculation.

norrisman:
@ Arosa

Violent posted the picture of a guy in a rubbish tip. His name is Vocal Slender. Use Google to search for his contact details and try to get in touch with him to explain how people live on N80 or less per day in Nigeria. Maybe his explanation might open your porous brain to the realities on ground in that God forsaken country.

Norrisman, your obtuseness is really frustrating. When I joined this topic, I asked franel79 to elaborate on how someone lives on 50 cents a day, since he made that claim. And I have yet to get a satisfactory response. I genuinely want to know, I am intrigued by this idea. We are now talking about the poorest people in Nigeria. How does it work? Please give a detailed break-down of these 80 Naira, and how they are allocated to food, shelter and clothing. Considering the cost of food in Nigeria, how do these people prevent from dying of starvation? Or are they eating garbage? If this were true, people would be dropping dead on the streets in scores; alternatively, perhaps they are superhuman and don't need food at all. I am not interested in your silly, irrelevant arithmetic; I want a concrete break-down. And don't send me to Vocal Slender. I have watched the BBC documentary, so I am well aware of him. No, I want you to tell me in your own words how this works out.

norrisman:
@ Arosa

I wouldnt have replied but i just had to becuase of ur dullness

1. I said if. Do you not understand english. 1person on N18k/month is $2.6. Is that any better than $1?

2. So someone earning 18k will borrow another 18k every month. What happens in that month where they have to pay back the 18k they borrowed

3. How now? When you are already doing slave hours for one employer. No such thing as part time job in Naija o

4. No comment. Too dumb.

5. Money yopu live on is disposable income available to spend on food, clothing and shelter

Norrisman, you are one of the most daft people I have ever come across on the Internet. And this is really no joke, I am serious.

It is laughable that you should question my ability to understand English in light of the fact that you cannot even spell-check your pathetic posts.

Let me address your (non-)points:

How in the REAL world can a person, no matter how poor, live on 50 cents a day? And I am talking about the REAL world here, not some hypothetical world. This is what I wanted franel79 to elaborate on, before you jumped in with your laughable, irrelevant "arithmetic".

50 cents are approximately 80 Naira. How do you survive on 80 Naira a day? Please explain. How would a person survive on this ridiculous amount? Since you appear to be an expert at such calculations, please break down this amount in terms of how much would be used for shelter, food, and clothing.

And why is it "too dumb" to factor bribes into the equation? In a country where people don't get any salary for months, and therefore rely on bribes to survive? The mere fact that you dismiss this as being "too dumb" to address shows that you have no idea of the REAL world.

Lastly, regarding the issue of many people working more than one job. There are many people who do this, even if you don't know. For example, I know a nurse who works shifts at the hospital and when her shift finishes opens her little shop where she sells goods. Furthermore, there are many families who send their children to hawk wares in the streets. Do you actually live in the REAL world? This is reality.

Next time, before you reply to any of my posts, please use your brain, provided that you actually have one, otherwise, don't bother responding. And if you do decide to respond, please do so with a detailed break-down of how the average sum of 80 Naira per day would be spent to meet the day-to-day needs of an individual (i.e. food, clothing and shelter, in your own words).

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=856639.msg10061589#msg10061589 date=1327679377]No you didn't, but your NL Igwe onlytruth said so. Understand. . .?[/quote]Right!

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=856639.msg10061483#msg10061483 date=1327678670]How? I thought you guys said all attacks are target at Igbos?. . .NO![/quote]Did I ever say that?

ak47mann:
i thought yaribas were never victims of boko haram killings?confused bunch of hypocrites  

who are you referring to?

maybe they are muslim yoruba traders.  

@topic, its madness, I tell you.

This is not armed robbery. this is pure evil.

norrisman:
You wonder if some people went to school.

The minimum wage for Federal and state workers is N18,000. Much less in the private sector. I know this because the labourers in my mums shop collect approximately N12,000/ month for a 60hour, 6 day working week with possible deductions for ''breakages'' ( I do not support this form of slavery but she tells me thats the Nigerian way cos if they could get better they would have left her employment)

N18,000 = $110. If you subtract a quarter for transport, $80 is approximately $2.6/ day. if this is income of a household of 4, do the maths. And like some said. if the employed are living on this, what of the unemployed?

There are so many things wrong with your "calculation" that I don't even know where to begin. But let me try:

1. What makes you think that every family of four has only one breadwinner?

2. What makes you assume that income earned from work is the only income a family has? Many Nigerians borrow money to survive, and are hence indebted. Many, many people borrow money from their relatives, sell land and belongings etc. to pay school fees, housing and such. Therefore, numerous low-income families are sustained by their better-off family members. Why do you think diasporans send approx. $6 Billion home annually

3. Are you aware that many people work more than one job, because their jobs pay so little?

4. What about bribes? Are these not included in your "calculation"?

5. Where do you get the notion from to subtract a quarter for transport?

A better argument would be to say that the minimum wage of 18000 Naira is not enough for a single person to survive on - that, at least, would make sense. I would agree with that.

suggary:
Hi what about once teeth falling off without pain.I have had dat dream twice this year

This means that a friend of yours is going to break up with you, but you wouldn't be bothered. cos you have other friends. 

franel79:
Yeah, a lot of Nigerians live on less than $0.50 cents a day. That's the sordid truth. You are only asking such a question because you are comfortable and probably eat three square meals daily.

There are people who won't mind eating the crumbs from under your table, so stop the waste and be your brothers keeper. Also give to charity.

How is the bold part possible, please elaborate.