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Who's wrong? He is coming to continue from where he left. AA has nothing to offer Nigeria, I haven't seen a desperate politician like him before.

His best chance at demonstrating leadership was back in PDP, he failed to solve the crisis, how does he feel he can handle a whole country.

The only thing that unites people around him is greed for power, El Rufai, Tambuwa Ameachi.
You failed election, stay back, build your support base, heal, make alliances but patience is not in their nature. It always has to be them.

I will always respect a person with political ideology, such a person has a focus, he can influence those coming to join him, and not the other way round.

These ones moving up and down, day and night have nothing meaningful to offer

givedemwotowoto:
People say things before primaries until election climate changes. Some of those APC supporters who said if Osinbajo didn’t win primaries they’ll vote against Tinubu, still supported him when election climate settled down.

Most Nigerians don’t want to know what it feels like to have a second term for Tinubu. Forget Agbadorians like you Tinubu on nairaland 24/7, reality on the streets is different

I will not forget this chat, when it's all said and done, I will remind you.
Remember don't shout rigging.

AMINDA:
It was split with Atiku having 6.9m votes and Obi having 6.2m votes. APC has no answers to an Atiku/Obi ticket. Hence why the likes of Onanuga, Bwala, Keyamo and even lately, Datti have been commissioned to do what they can. But it's inevitable.

I pray they repeat the same thing, so this question can have a definite answer. And please I don't want to hear it was rigged.
I don't base my analysis on rigging.

Validated:
Are you from Neptune or Mars?
Atiku - 6,984,520
P. Obi - 6,101,533
Kwankwaso - 1,496,687
Atiku/Obi = 13,086,053
If you add Kwankwaso, ElRufai, Amechi and others who helped Tinubu in 2023, Atiku/Obi will be about 16M

For Tinubu, it is OVER. He can only look to hold on to South West (excluding Lagos).

You haven't seen anything, any you think amongst those that decided to vote for Obi won't have cast their vote for Tinubu? Na wao for this your reasoning oh.

Shey you the see obidients way the talk say for Atiku to win better make Tinubu continue...

Don't use that as concrete evidence,

I see people here postulating that the north is not going to vote for Tinubu, same thing was said last year, untill he clinched the NW and performed well in the NE.
Tinubu is not banking on winning these zones, baby analyst here don't seem to understand simple logic. Some here take their personal grudge for the man to mean a general disapproval. I recall back in 2023, the theme was Buhari is not on the ballot, hence Tinubu won't get his votes. But he won in all North East states traditionally won by Buhari except for Bauchi, yobe and Gombe. Taraba and Adamawa has always gone the way of Atiku and it was no different. The States will most likely remain so, especially when he has people doing the ground work for him.
The North West similar patterns were observed. But the main thing you have to factor in is the difference between the winner and the 2nd. The largest margin Atiku won Tinubu with in any northern state came from Adamawa his home state, followed by Kaduna, Bauchi and Gombe. Anywhere else in the North where Atiku recorded victory the difference was less than 60k votes.

And these Large margin of his were easily swallowed up by vote difference from Kano, Lagos, and other SW states. AA didn't win any state in Southern Nigeria aside Osun, and yet again the margin was tight.

AA can't defeat Tinubu, Obi can't get votes in the North enough to defeat Tinubu even if they elites backs him. I'm saying this because the calculations don't favour a new Southern candidate. His best shot came in 2023 and it has passed.

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AMINDA:
Governors relied on Buhari’s popularity to win their elections. Buhari had cult-like followership until and even after his death. Buhari has 12m organic supporters in the North. Now compare with Tinubu who only won with 8m votes and 5.6m of those votes coming from the North while losing in Lagos and Osun, his home turf. Compare with a Tinubu who's desperately relying on the popularity or might of the state governors to win his own re-election. Then you'll realise that Tinubu is not Buhari. Atiku/Obi pulled 11m votes against a Buhari. It will be a walk-over against Tinubu.

And where did the 11 million votes go to in 2023

Streetinvestor2:
I said total vote for both in SW and SE.it was clear in English. The north is Atiku and Tinubu will not win NC as he didn't win it last election. The NC and SS don't deliver bulk vote to an individual. The figures are thr.what are the states Tinubu won in Nc and SS in last election even with the rigging .Answer the questions and I give u my conclusion

i don't have the time to engage you further... we see after the election

Streetinvestor2:
pls what is total vote Tinubu got in SW and SE.
Tell me total vote obi got in SE and SW
We want to check something

Tinubu got 2.2 million votes in the SW, 127k in SE
Obi got 1.9mil SE and 800k SW.
I know you are going to start adding up figures, but if you look at what I said earlier, I said, NW, SW, nd NC.
Obi failed in the NE and NW,.
There was no way he could account for that difference from the SE and SS votes.

That's why I tell people who care to listen that, Tinubu's performance is going to be better than it was, because the numbers can only increase.

The governor's have one vote, that's what everyone says and it's true. But these people have appointees who are hell bent on winning so they can keep their positions. These people have Loyalist who change party and allegiance with their benefactors.
These are the Nigerian factor Obidients are not putting into consideration.

What happened In 2015 is not possible with this current opposition. What Tinubu did as opposition these guy's are not even close to half.

You can bring in your arguments,

The United States is planning on intervening, if they do I don't see the regime surviving.
There's Internet blackout, the protest looks more like something without direction for now, there's no clear leadership. Reza Pahlavi is in the US, and getting a message across is not easy, with the Internet blackout.
From online sources, the Iranian government is threatening death sentence for those involved in the protest, a bad move actually.

Iran has promised to retaliate any military intervention by the US, I think that's going to be a fatal mistake.

Me I don't even consider the SE and the noise they make when it comes to politics. They are talking because everyone else is, not that their words does anything really.
Tinubu is not even counting on 1 vote from SE, not even 1. He got 127k last time, multiply that by 5 and deduct from his total votes, and it won't have changed anything.

MatrixReloaded:
Read all the congratulations from His Excellence BAT, AA, PO and tell me which one is more clinical.

PO the write book as usual. Trying to squeez in his a New Nigeria is possible..

Plateau people and their Names, Tapgun....

Where's Regina when you need her

reddingtonblack:
If Tinubu didn't engineer the crisis you can defuse the fact that Tinubu gave enabling grounds for the crisis to linger on

Apparently he is playin both sides cos of his nature to always play politics with everything , Tinubu believes why have one when i can have both sides he wants to use Fubara and he doesnt want to let Wike down

Wike's effrontery to disrupt Rivers stems from the belief Federal might backing to ... Tinubu should have distance his office as backing anyone ..buh Tinubu lacks moral ground to call wike to order Wike is only tryin to emulate Tinubu style of godfatherism pocket Rivers like Tinubu pocket Lagos .

If Tinubu actually wanted Fubara gone, he would have been history by now. And he is not playing both, Fubara has nothing to offer Tinubu, absolutely nothing. While Wike is trouble and unnecessary drama to the administration, Tinubu in his character does not just cast aside people who are loyal to him. This is something you should know if you really understand and have followed the president.
Intervening in the face off is more in favour of Fubara.
Now have you asked what deal they made B4 the state of emergency was lifted? Who was the first to break the deal.
If you ask me, the president should stay clear and allow the two fight it out themselves, because it seems they are more than capable

Sk5050:
Try and appreciate others remove h∆te from your spirit Mr tribal big©t

I don't hate, but making it sound as though she achieved something impossible is what I'm questioning.
I'm not a tribal bigōt.

I don't see anything here, they decided to pursue military careers in the United States Army, so it is expected.
I don't see any alien race here.

obaidan:
But wait o...where is the allegation that will enable the Chief Judge to nail the governor
Section 122 of the constitution allows the governor to spend for 6 months after the budget has expired and a new budget is not in place.
Fubara is allowed to work with the budget passed by the National Assembly for Ibas till June 30, 2026 All the governor has to do is to just ensure that he can defend that the spending falls either of these 2 categories
(i.) Necessary to keep government running, and
(ii.) Limited to what was approved in the previous year’s budget.
Maybe when i see other allegations sha but this one of spending money not appropriated, less than 10 days after the expiration of one budget? e no follow

However, the most important thing is that the Presidency is carrying Fubara on the shoulder.

Wikes boys have only spent just 2 months or so in APC, they are already causing commotion up and down, something with potential to cause division within the entire APC even up to the national level. That party is Bola Tinubus baby. Giving Wike one leg inside APC and also control of Resources of Rivers state is not what Tinubu will allow to happen......
wike essentially used rivers funds to scatter PDP.
Amaechi used rivers funds to be the major financier of the amalgation of ACN and CPC.
Dem sa Obasanjo used Odili to fund Yaraduas campaign and election and to fight Atikus financial warchest
Tinubu will be really wary of Wike having his foot in APC and unrestricted access to the resources of Rivers state

Wikes camp have been shouting like the underdog.

let see what the panel finds as an impeachable offense. But clearly the spending outside appropriation is justified, unless they are implying previous spending before the state of emergency was declared.

AMINDA:
Typical. He engineers crisis between two camps and then plays both sides. How can he wash his hands when he's a major player and instigator of the crisis? Was the agreement for Fubara to do only one term not brokered and signed in his presence? Why should a oresident be a party to such undemocratic agreement? He will now stay neutral because he erroneously believes both camps are working for his own re-election.

Explain how he engineered the crisis, or are you just saying so because accusing him serves your purpose?

obaidan:
Impeachment will not fly
Fubara not getting APC ticket will not fly
Wike should find another party for his candidate and meet Fubara on the field

The only thing that can stop an impeachment is negotiation or State of Emergency.
And he is gone once the House reaches a 2/3 majority on the Article of Impeachment. Even if it's illegal, he will have to fight it in Court as an ordinary citizen.
He is in a tight spot. I'm analysing base on what is available in the public domain and precedent

This is a fight Fubara can't win, he started fighting too early. I'm not privy to the conditions he agreed with Wike before emerging as Governor, first time his name was even mentioned was when the EFCC were after him. No one knew about him, it implies Wike did everything, and as such the terms were steep.
Politics is always about compromise, and when you bargain from a position of weakness, you get a bad deal. Fubara would have waited, bid his time, gained enough grounds, especially in the assembly, political leaders before making a move on Wike.
From events, it can be assumed that every reconciliatory agreement is in Wike's favour, he's the one dictating the terms. And when it becomes clear to SIM what the implications are, he starts to renege.
But the question is why accept a deal you can't keep?
Politicians renege, no doubt about that, but they do it with power to go ahead regardless. RMK and Gov. Abba Yusuf is an example.
Tinubu mediated the last deal and he is privy to the terms, if Fubara is guilty of going against it, I doubt he will give him his support.

And one last thing, Impeachment is constitutional, nothing can stop it, except Tinubu is ready to declare another State of Emergency.

Hahahaha see sensational headline, US delegation...
Well everyone needs a reason to be happy

What agreement did this two people sign before the state of emergency was lifted?
From public data, SIM wasn't going to come for a second term, a controversial one, but he accepted it.

He has been making inflammatory remarks of late, and wike is one that doesn't back down from a fight.

My own opinion, both of them should be allowed to fight it out. Fubara has proven he is up to the task, which explains why he's taking decisions that will heat up the situation further.

Abbeytoy:
Where did he mention using the judiciary to help the APC?

You people are just desperate.

Tire me oh!!! Propaganda full ground here. Does the president even need Wike to influence judge's..
This guy's haven't really understood who Tinubu is, the man can't use an unstable character like Wike for highly sensible matters.

Don't look too far, turn around you should find someone throwing waste bin beside the road. Is that Government? Setting up businesses along the roadside, when when they are chased away, government is evil.

We like how organized other countries are, but we fail to understand is that the citizens are the ones holding everything together.

An average Nigerian is corrupt, all he needs is the opportunity. If he complains, then it's because he or she is not in position to loot.

We are just too stubborn in this country,

It seems this Kwankwasiya movement is all about Kwankwaso. I use to like him, but I discovered he's the wrong choice for anyone,

Svoboda:
But Uba Sani fighting El rufai is ideal. Why did Tinubu take sides so soon with Uba Sani and turn his back on El rufai rather than remain neutral?

I don't like it. Which why I said they should learn how to massage their ego.
Moreover the conflict between the two started after the Ministerial Snub, El rufai was already on his way out.

The president is not going to do such, seems you don't even know the person you are working with.
He understands the importance of everyone working together, don't expect him to choose. What he is going to do is simple, allow the two to sort it out themselves.
If it turns out that Fubara is coming for a second term under APC, don't expect Tinubu to back him, that's not how he operates. Ambode's experience should have been enough clue as to what is going to happen, Fubara moving to APC is not a guarantee that he wins a second term.
He made a grave error by fighting Wike, less than a year into his administration, when he is yet to consolidate power.
I like stability, it enhances growth, policy continuation and unity within the state. Lagos is an example, it cost nothing in the end.
But on the other end, Godfatherism is not ideal, but yet again you can't get into government without the help of powerful people in Nigeria.
Learning how to massage their ego while you go on with your work is the best way, Kogi state looks like one for now.

Maxzyx:
It’s simple. Vote out APC in 2027 period.

U need a bigger lie to make this work

Sccarrr:
but una don spend over £3b in less than 5 years...still feel ur excuses make sense?

In those years I have won Champions League, UEFA super cup, club world cup mind you the new expanded version, and conference league.

Now present your report card...

😂😂😂

franvincoop:
Stop trying to defend the indefensible.
All tiers you say.
FAAC meeting you say.
Now tell me if the National Assembly was a party to this cancellation.
All budgets whether reconciliation or not must be passed by an act of the National Assembly first with the President giving his assent.
This is the 2nd time within 30 days that Tinubu is trying to bypass the National Assembly and commit unconstitutional acts.
But I don't blame Tinupoo, na dat Natasha pant sniffing Senate President I blame.
This is the worst National Assembly since 1999, even Ahmed Lawan was better than this.

Mr the National Assembly has no business with finances associated with the Federations Account. That matter is strictly between the federating units, FG, states and LGAs.

Sccarrr:
why una no win am now like una promise for start of the season....world club yenyenyen

Our own project never reach 6 years like una own...

But on a serious note, I want make una win, e done tail. To think say since then born some Arsenal fans them never see EPL trophy weak my body.

As for me, I no send waiting Chelsea get to do this season. I write this season off last week

EnemyofGod4:


Chelsea help us, you can do it.

Help yourself bro. . .
Time way I win league I do am by myself 😂😂😂