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lol,get well soon young man. @muskeeto why r you defying nature i thought male mosquitoes don't bite?

ending

goshen? lol no go dt side, dt's not part of ministry

obadiah777: STOP SPEAKING IN TONGUES GADDEMIT

look for someone dt has d gift of interpretation

ernest

op a na-ekwu nke i kwuru, ikwukwa ozo, unu asi n' udi mmadu gini bu ife nkea bikokwanu? ooo afunurom #shrugs

i listen to gospel and secular everyday btw does one's not listening to secular make him spiritual?

google

Ishilove: Hokay darleen, no vex ehn... Olowo ori mi, my e-warrior, machoman, the Word warrior, my e-knight, atheists see your username and tremble with fear, my one and only US citizen, any other Citizen Goshen is a counterfeit...ehn,oya smile for me...

i'm sure this would send him to get d diamond ring u craved for.

robber

dealer

[quote author=*Kails*]excellent!!

you take the left cheek and i'll wooze the right!
deal? [/quote]see u then

obadiah777: NICE ONE. I SEE NIGERIANS ARE STARTING TO QUEUE. THATS PROGRESS. AS THEY SAY 'EKO O NI BAJE OOOOOOOO '

when it comes to heart issues likkkke...

Nitlad

[quote author=*Kails*]you mean to wooze him?




i'm good hun.
not eating anything at the moment dear.
just chillaxing!!

You? btw you still owe me a pizza.

[size=1pt]^^lol ok something tells me..i've misinterpreted what he was saying by "eat remain"[/size] [/quote]dt kind thing na

[quote author=*Kails*]i see and i go wooze him o! [/quote]i take d lead join d queue

Mukina

Ok

Ihedinobi: You're welcome to reread my post and actually think about what I said. When you do, I'll answer whatevee you have to say about it. Until then, I have nothing to say to you, sis.

ok i'll do dt thursday week

obadiah777: ATMC ALREADY MAKING EXCUSES FOR HER UBIQUITOUS GBAGAUNS OR AS IT IS KNOWN IN THE UPPER CRUST CIRCLES ' HER UBIQUITOUS SHELLINGS '. WE NEED ATMC IN THE NIGERIAN MILITARY. SHE CAN SHELL HER WAY INTO THE ENEMIES FORTRESS AND OVERCOME JK

hey you didn't notice d excuse was for seun...i tire for you o, ok get ur non reprobate azzz to d religious section we got scores to settle...

ijaw citizen: Oga seun,
You don't "strike down" something that is written, You "strike it off".

No offence intended

nobody's is perfect when it comes to english including anybody...and everybody...hence rule 21 should go too.

Btw @op you ought to know dt changing one rule will lead to changing many. You should have been a shade more diplomatic!

Ihedinobi: @bolded: Am I indeed.

Are tithes collected, that is, are tithes collections? Are they material blessings?

I did tell you to pay attention, didn't I, Goshen?



@bolded: is that right? Well, let's see what your #3 says, shall we?



These material blessings that you agree that ministers of the Word are entitled to, are they ever collected together in the church?



I think that the short of everything you said above is that ministers of the Gospel have been granted the right, nay, commanded by the Lord to receive their wages and sustenance from preaching the Gospel. Your contentions are that tithes were not specifically mentioned and the tone of our Lord's command was such that the wages that the ministers of the Gospel receive must be freely given.

Goshen's Concern #1: Tithes were not specifically mentioned.

Would they need to be if our Lord and His disciples took for granted that it was an eternal principle?


Goshen's Concern #2: Whatever the ministers were to receive as wages must be without compulsion.

If it is natural to the believer to give a tenth of his material wealth toward the wages of those who minister to him spiritually, would it be a matter of obligating him or compelling him to pay tithes if one appealed to his natural inclination to do so? Does a thing's nature not compel that thing to behave in a particular way and still be free in its actions behaving that way?

Edit: PS. I feel that I must add the following: the question we're discussing is who receives the tithes in the House of the Lord today? My answer is those that minister to the Body spiritually. You asked for Scriptural evidence which I offered but which you rejected on the grounds that (1)it does not mention tithes specifically and (2)the wages it speaks of that the ministers of the Word receive are not obligatory upon their givers. In the above, I have offered an address of those grounds. I offer this explanation to keep us on course and prevent running away with issues not immediately relevant to the discussion. That is why I did not address some things you said in your post.

after d long wait, phew! Well @those dt minister spiritual things to d body should collect tithe and @the lord didn't emphasise on tithe or mention cos they are eternal...i have this to say, if tithe is eternal principle then its mode of collection shouldn't change...d workers in d church should still be d ones to collect it. By workers i mean choir, ushers etc. Otherwise d bible would have told us at what point exactly this recievers of tithe were changed and why. You tried sha.

obadiah777: ERMM NO THAT VERSE SPEAKS ABOUT ISRAEL FALLING AWAY FROM THEIR LAND ( LUKE 21 VS 24 ) AND THEIR HERITAGE AS ISRAEL ( JEREMIAH 17 VS 4 ) AND HENCE WHY THEY ARE NOW THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. AINT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PHYSICAL DEATH OF NOBODY. HEY HEY ATMC WAGWAN

which one is wagwan kwa? Part of bellicose rhetoric :-P btw i miss you badly they should unban you na

obadiah777: I THINK I HAVE A BIBLE VERSE FOR THAT >>> 2 THESSALONIANS 2 VS 3 for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,

i thought this verse speaks of d death of many before the great day?

Ihedinobi: And have you been taking time to read my responses, sis? I advise that you also take time to read my particular response to this post of Goshen's.

i'm in d waiting room

Looker

Well, i'll leave you to your shallow opinion, i was there some years back...i'm very sure you are not up to 10 years in christ embassy dt's why you are carrying d matter on your head. With time you'll understand...you sound like someone dt just0 finished foundation school and hasn't started relating with d body of christ proper rather is still attached to church...detach yourself brother and be a part/member of d body of christ and not member of christ embassy!

christemmbassey: Brute?

a line from one. Of shakespear's novels. Brute is a character in one of his books