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[quote author=iamloyalty post=55520241]I dont bagged words with apostate. Gud day![/quote
Ok. Continue. On a very lovely day, your eyes will clear and you will confess that Jesus Christ is lord

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JMAN05:
Chose one question dude, blood transfusion or non-association. Which do u want?

As for blood trans, see Acts 15:29

Act15:29
"You must abstain from eating food offered
to idols, from consuming blood or the meat
of strangled animals, and from sexual
immorality. If you do this, you will do well.
Farewell."
My goodness!!! how does this verse relate to refusing blood transfusion ? Who exactly is interpreting this bible for you guys? Smh



read the whole chapter from verse 1, so you can understand better.

Act 15:1 certain men came down from Judea and
taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised
according to the custom of Moses, you cannot
be saved.”
Act 15:2 Therefore, when Paul and Barnabas had no small
dissension and dispute with them, they
determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain
others of them should go up to Jerusalem, to the
apostles and elders, about this question.
Act 15:3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they
passed through Phoenicia and Samaria,
describing the conversion of the Gentiles; and
they caused great joy to all the brethren.
Act 15:4 And when they had come to Jerusalem, they
were received by the church and the apostles
and the elders; and they reported all things that
God had done with them.
Act 15:5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who
believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to
circumcise them, and to command them to keep
the law of Moses.”
Act 15:6 Now the apostles and elders came together to
consider this matter.
Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter
rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you
know that a good while ago God chose among
us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear
the word of the gospel and believe.
Act 15:8 “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged
them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He
did to us,
Act 15:9 “and made no distinction between us and them,
purifying their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 “Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a
yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither
our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 “But we believe that through the grace of the
Lord Jesus Christ [fn] we shall be saved in the
same manner as they.”
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to
Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles
and wonders God had worked through them
among the Gentiles.
Act 15:13 And after they had become silent, James
answered, saying, “Men and brethren, listen to
me:
Act 15:14 “Simon has declared how God at the first visited
the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His
name.
Act 15:15 “And with this the words of the prophets agree,
just as it is written:
Act 15:16 ‘After this I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has
fallen down;
I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will set it up;
Act 15:17 So that the rest of mankind may seek the LORD,
Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name,
Says the LORD who does all these things.’ [fn]
Act 15:18 “Known to God from eternity are all His works.
[fn]
Act 15:19 “Therefore I judge that we should not trouble
those from among the Gentiles who are turning
to God,
Act 15:20 “but that we write to them to abstain from
things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,
[fn] from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 “For Moses has had throughout many
generations those who preach him in every city,
being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
Act 15:22 Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the
whole church, to send chosen men of their own
company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas,
namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas,
[fn] and Silas, leading men among the brethren.
Act 15:23 They wrote this letter by them:
The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,
To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in
Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:
Greetings.
Act 15:24 Since we have heard that some who went out
from us have troubled you with words, unsettling
your souls, saying, “ You must be circumcised and
keep the law” [fn] —to whom we gave no such
commandment—
Act 15:25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one
accord, to send chosen men to you with our
beloved Barnabas and Paul,
Act 15:26 men who have risked their lives for the name of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 15:27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will
also report the same things by word of mouth.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us,
to lay upon you no greater burden than these
necessary things:
Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols,
from blood, from things strangled, and from
sexual immorality. [fn] If you keep yourselves
from these, you will do well.
Farewell.
Act 15:30 So when they were sent off, they came to
Antioch; and when they had gathered the
multitude together, they delivered the letter.
Act 15:31 When they had read it, they rejoiced over its
encouragement.

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Why is JMAN05 not responding to this. how does eating or consuming blood relate to refusing blood transfusion when one is sick. My brother, this pure doctrine and dogma, its outrightly lying against the Bible and deceiving innocent people. You should as well stop taking any form of medical treatment. Open your eyes, and stop allowing anyone to interpret the bible for you. James 1:5 " if any of you lack wisdom let him ask of God........" not even the elders in your org.

switplum:
Una dey talk sha..

for me, I've come to understand dat JW don't worship Jesus. They only sing praises of Worship to Jehovah. Soo u would nt expect a JW to sing church songs dat praise Jesus...

I've come to see dat even Jesus worship his father. Soo y should we sing to Jesus?

Oh! you are even a member of JW, why didn't you come clean initially ? that's deceitful action, you ain't honest dear

iamloyalty:
get ur fact straight, we disfellOwship only those who engaged in wrong conduct like Immorality, spiritisim, thief, etc. Dont forget even Jesus was considered weird.

what about those that seriously doubt and question the teachings of JWs org, what happen to them

JMAN05:
The account you quoted is good but the translation is misleading. Translating the Greek word that occurred there " worship" is against other part of the scripture where Jesus stated that ONLY his father should be worshipped. See Luke 4:8

NWT used "obeisance" there.

so what happen to John10:30 "for I and my father are one " ?

[quote author=Sarang post=55474171]The bible said"Do not associate with anyone called a brother but who is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolator or slanderer, a drunkard or cheats people..

I'm sure you have seen this scripture before. It's 1 corr 5:11
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good and tell me how does that relate to someone who is having doubt or questioning the teachings of the your association? how does that 1cor 5:11 relate to the aforementioned person??

JMAN05:
The account you quoted is good but the translation is misleading. Translating the Greek word that occurred there " worship" is against other part of the scripture where Jesus stated that ONLY his father should be worshipped. See Luke 4:8

NWT used "obeisance" there.

Hahahahahahaha, the word "obeisance" was not found in JW interpretation for the Word worship from 1950 to 1970, it was added around 1971. Even Charles T Russell the founder of your org supported the teaching about worship being given to Jesus Christ, his successor Rutherford also embraced the teaching until his death. You guys have problem with Jesus Christ, Christ was the visible image of the unseen God ( God the father) , he took the form of man in order to liberate man from his sinful nature which law could not do. the Bible said even though Christ has the nature as God the father, he was humbled and took the form of man. drop the current bible you are reading and look for another version, i know you people have been instructed to read only that Bible.

Sarang:
Sin greatly against Jehovah with no remorse. I am sure u know what sin is.

All power in heaven, on the earth, beneath the earth, in the sea belong to Jesus Christ.
No one cometh unto the father except through Jesus Christ. that is to say Jesus is the sole administrator of everything, why do you guys frown at the name Jesus Christ.
Everything about the kingdom is in his care, hope that also is in your bible, if not, then that's not a Bible and has been altered.

iamloyalty:
I dont bagged words with apostates like u. Gud day.
#Jw for life
#proudly one of JW
#positive vibes

you don't wanna listen to reasoning, this is why people perish, but it shall not be so with you, cos Jesus Christ came that we might have life to its fullness.

Some of the things you mentioned that forbid you from listening to gospel lyrics are not correct (though it isn't a must to listen to a particular song), Your guys reject the worship of Christ even when it litters all over the bible. you mean to tell me that they are not in your bible? if yes, then those were interpreted by jw org to suit theirs teachings. let me give you one example ;

Hebrews 1:6
And when He again brings the firstborn
into the world, He says, "AND LET ALL
THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

JMAN05:
OK. You are an apostate. End of discussion. 1cor 5:11

1cor5:11 " But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people."
I think you just gave a wrong quotation or is that how JW quote scripture?

rottennaija:
Waste of precious advice. To him, you are like a drug talking. They don't even understand what it means for God's spirit to minister to them and help them understand the Bible.

Tell me you are joking,,,,, what

Sarang:
We don't disfellowship people cos they ask questions.. infact we answer each nd every question. We disfellowship someone who delibrately reproach Jehovah.

State what could lead to disfellowship of members. The "reproach Jehovah" thing doesn't answer nothing

A JW woman just chased her son away from her shop, just because the dude potted to Anglican after being a hardcore and corrosive JW since his birth.
I have discussed few things with the guy concerning the Bible, but he remained adamant until he read the bible with open mind and the holy spirit spoke to his heart.I Now pity the woman cos she is suffering alone now. The dude came to help his mum with all his energetic blood and business sense. but the mum valued the religion more than her blood (his son)

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"So, if doubts, complaints, or
apostasy threaten to contaminate
you spiritually, cut them away
quickly! (Compare Matthew 5:29,
30.) Get help from the congregation
elders." Watchtower 1989 Oct 1
p.18
this is the reason the woman chased away her son, he read the bible was full of doubt concerning their teachings, then he left

iamloyalty:
u are wrong. Someone who refused to live by the standard of the bible and refuses to repent and goes abt blackmailing other Jw. We dont KILL.

Do me a favour, u want you to zero your mind, that is make your believe neutral, forget whatever the elders and leaders has told you. Pick up a Bible ( king James or good news) and read for yourself.
Even your explanation of the apostate is what the leader instructed. Do something with open mind, and the spirit of God will speak to your heart, do not believe what I said, but try and forget what they taught you all long and allow God to minister to you, hope they won't find out if you try and do this privately on your own

DAGAUDA:
We Are Pray to Almighty Allah to Give Them Good Protection In Life.

Hahahahahahaha, good one, English language na bastard

Jeffrey12:
even the mother self na premature....

naija get bad mouth, the guy I quoted is a perfect example of badi mouth

iamloyalty:
It is no name calling he is an apostate if u know what it means and his information is malicious.

apostate?? I see, Muslims also have something like that, you are treated like an outcast when you leave them, or can be killed too

rottennaija:
Do you play Godwin?

That one small nah, my neighbour's beautiful newly married wife plays anything naija like; Olamide, phyno fino, davido, don jazzy and all his children, tecno, p square (especially bank alert, in fact that one go make am mad one day, na so dey talk oo, Ice prince zamani (.....orobo get body, orobo no sabi to shake body...etc), flavour, chidimma. in fact she loves everything, and the husband has started blasting bank alert like his beautiful wife. But they detest gospel music.

As for the reason they gave for avoiding gospel lyrics. my co-tenant was a member, but the guy don pot over, when I asked him about the Jws, he just called them CULT. But I didn't get the opportunity to hear his reason cos a visitor interrupted our peaceful discussion. maybe I will ask him tomorrow. And that guy no be floor member when he was a JW. He told me that when you read the bible with open mind, without being guided by anyone on where to read and how to interpret, the holy spirit will open your eyes to so many things. Other JWs that don't know that the man was a member will go to him for bible discussion, but they leave the moment the man starts showing them things.

the Op is right, they only play secular song.
my neighbor is a staunch member, but he can dance skelewu and flavour with his wife.
in fact during their wedding the wife sang Celine Dion., I was at the wedding

DelGardo:
That is a major qualification for Nigeria of today. In fact it is the only one i look out for. I will take a Magu over an Ibori as my president, if Ibori like make e get PHD like uncle IB.

Hope you heard that over N1trillion has been released for capital projects (the type we can see). That is the highest in our history in one year. Have you seen the foreign reserve numbers... does that look like fluke to you?

I weep for your comment, this present government is sinking this nation, even el rufai, okorocha and others have all acknowledged the fact, you are still here defending someone who has pleaded guilty to a charge.
continue

The only qualification (though not true) the Buhari supporters attribute to him is that "He is not corruption" finish.
How does that help the economy or create jobs for the unemployed youth,, honestly azaino can not tell

That's a good one talking about the Almajiri kids, but as for the situation of the murtala Muhammed mosque that's not important at allllllll ??


more concerns should be placed on educating the almajiris not just with Islamic studies but with proper western education.
I don't see how making a mosque a tourist attraction help the poor almajiris.

princessayesha:
Yes and thunder can only fire you and your family

anty, why taking that personal. hahahahaha. are you Hausa and Yoruba Muslim ? lolz

ReubenE:
I only but wonder who blessed our leaders with stupidity. Imagine an elected governor saying this nonsense to his people.
Oga governor go and look for practical solutions to the problem and stop attributing it to God.

What nonsense from a governor!

After a meeting with PMB, The Gov of
Zamfara says the meningitis epidemic in
Nigeria is God's punishment for Nigerians'
sins. APC, Change!
Do you still wonder why we are in recession ?? Buhari also believes the fornication-meningitis discovery, that was what he discussed with the governor. hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah,

flamingREED:
Indeed, all sins are punishable by God, however, sexual sins (when they spiral in frequency and magnitude) provoke heaven's swift response.

Deuteronomy 28
58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;
59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

Let me assume you were joking. But if you are really serious then your case is worst than this Governor, sorry bro.
The above quoted Bible verse is now useless to Christians, it was law for the Jews before the coming of Christ. You better look for a teacher of the word of God and stop listening to preachers. more still read the Bible yourself.

more so, that is not the goodnews. fornication, lying, envy, jealousy, hatred ( which is even considered as murder) are all the same. no sin specially provoke God's anger. His anger only last for a while and his mercy and love endures forever. but shall we remain in sin because of his grace on our lives? Definitely NO. make Christ the lord over your life today and enjoy his rest.

How did this man end up as governor of a state. Well this can only happen in the north. Illiteracy is a fvcking biatch. Formication related to meningitis? Weldon governor. This is nothing but religious stupidity

dacblogger:
let her show everything once and for all so we will rest for her...

lolzzz,, chaii, you wan see nude pishure abi ??
e don dey hungry you .

Majikals:
You are a lucky man finding such an honest spouse... She has confessed her errors before her maker and even you. Go ahead with your marriage with her cos she's a good woman. We have all made terrible errors at some point in life. Only a scarce few are bold enough to confess his /her deepest errors the way ur fiancee just did.
About the spiritual implications u are kinda worried about, if truly you are a Christian as u rightly said, I believe the Bible says he /she that confesses and believe is redeemed..You have nothing to fear

this brother don answer am, so which other answer you still dey find?
I dont know why Christian have so much faith in the lettered curses than the redeemable blood of Jesus Christ. I ask the Op are you truly a Christian ? I mean a real Christian and not religious follower ??

misscrystals:
where they hypnotized? and Na so the man get money reach.... wish them happy married life

no be the hypnotism na im be the problem, but na how he plan to knack both ladies into satisfaction

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vizkiz:
[b]I don't even know what to type

But a nairalander who have never rushed to book space in Frontpage without knowing what to type is that one a nairalander?

shey dem dey dash money for space booking ni