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Adaowerri111:
Good prerequisite, that's how they want to run their skuul, if you can't obey God go work for Buhari, you're too small to dictate what happens in winners chapel, go look for job elsewhere

so paying tithe is obeying God

kenonze:
Free things dey sweet una too much.
How did u care for ur parents in their dying moment?

honestly you deserve slap...... very hot one

Moneyyy:
Tell your friend to go to the bank for enquiries on that, why asking us? Na so yahoo yahoo dey take start. I'm sure other members of the family are the Executors of Estate but this guy wan take backyard collect money from the account.

You no go shut up

yourexcellency:
Call Central Bank Governor, Godwin Emefiele on 08023755213

They are gradually showing their faces 4 nineteen

kenonze:
Free things dey sweet una too much.
How did u care for ur parents in their dying moment?

Hahahahahahaha, hope u know say u get bad mouth ?

otipoju:
brother stop confusing yourself. A little knowledge is dangerous.

when God called Abraham from the land of Ur, did he not give him certain instructions especially concerning the lifestyle of he and his offspring.

In the New Testament is there not a scripture passage that says..." Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then?
Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?

it says shall we continue in sin (not to sin). apostle Paul was talking about the sin nature that human race are into already, the sin that Adam bought for us, we were brought into this world in sin and we continue in this sin, until we accept Christ through whom sin is forgiven. A child born into this world today is born into sin, hope you know that.
What God did for Abraham was not dependent on how him and his family lived. it was dependent on God's promises to Abraham and on Abraham's faith on God. why are you finding it too hard to understand ?

sarrki:
Don't break the law no matter who you are

who is breaking the law here ?

otipoju:
You lie.

When God makes a promise to any individual, it comes with certain obligations. To bring the promise into effect and secondly to maintain its effect.


To begin with, Abraham was told to circumcise all the males in his household as a sign of the covenant.
Then he and his offspring were expected to walk in a way that was remarkedly different from that of other people.

you amaze me, but I won't say anything further, you better read the bible and know better. the only thing Abraham did was his faith and believe in God that the promises will come true. Abraham did not do any other to help or please God, just believe. and that is what Christ brought too, faith to replace law and works. no matter your works if you don't believe in the resurrected Christ you are still in your sin. Even that circumcission you mentioned is no longer valid or important for Christian, they are all shadows, the real deal has come, and that is Jesus Christ.

otipoju:
Fact two: Yes Sarah conceived because Abraham offered food to strangers who turned out to be Angels. Sarah had been rightly labelled barren but her situation was remedied by the pronouncement of the guest.

If Abraham had been stingy and he would never had entertained strangers and his problem would remain unsolved until God intervened.

Abraham was made a promise by God that he will make him the father of all nation, that he will bless his seeds and they shall be like the stars of heaven. Now listen very well ny friend, when God vow and pronise to do sonething for anyone he has choosen, you are not expected to do anything for the vow to come to pass other than to have faith and beleive on the promises of. Abraham was man of faith, that was what God saw in him. Please stop saying what you dont know, ask your pastor if you cant read the bible on your own

YelloweWest:
Of course not!
The only thing that can deny a person heaven is not accepting Christ.

However not paying tithe will deny u the earthly blessings of God.

Again I remind us of malachi 3 v 7. Read down wards. God asks us to tithe only for him to bless us. That's all. If u don't pay tithe I a Christian you are in disobedience with the scripture.

you said it is disobedience to pay tithe as a christain, and disobedience is a sin, infact that was the sin the first man(adam) committed that made all human race sinners. Then by your statement, you said not paying tithe wont deny one heaven. So from all you have said it doesnt matter whether we pay or we dont pay tithe. But why do the pastors and church leader lay greater importance on tithe, sone have even gone so far as to tell their member that they will go to hellfire if they dont pay their tithe. Isnt that fraud, lying and preaching of falsehood??

YelloweWest:
Repent from spreading falsehood and deceiving people.

Of course I know that no amount of tithe can assure a person of heaven but we are mandated as Christians to pay tithe. It is scriptural. Malachi 3 v 7 -10.

let me ask, will not paying tithe deny someone heaven ?

YelloweWest:
Those have been ameliorated by the blood of Christ.
Christ said turn the other cheek.
Is there any where in the bible that said we should not pay tithe?

you are an example of what apostle Paul called BABY CHRISTIAN

YelloweWest:
I said malachi was a messager of God. Not everything we practice as Christians was said personally by Christ.

Repent. Stop spreading falsehood.

Me spreading falsehood? what has tithe got to do
with repentance ? if anyone has told you that paying tithe will fetch you heaven and you believed him, then you need to start afresh, cos your foundation is not well laid, your faith has been corrupted

YelloweWest:
Yes! Malachi 3 v 7- 10

Malachi was a messager of God. Do your research. Stop spreading falsehood.

you mean messenger of God? OK,
but you sound far from the bible.
you don't even seem to know the origin of tithe and why it was paid then

YelloweWest:
Yes! Malachi 3!

So Jesus Christ or the apostle commanded people to pay tithe in Malachi 3 Hope you people are seeing it. Jesus Christ was in Malachi 3, OK kontinu

pojok:
You are a fool

that's a strong one, why calling him a fool, just show him the real thing if you know it from the bible. Remain blessed

anochuko01:
I give tithe and I give to the poor...I do it by revelation and not by Law...and it pays me because I BELIEVE IN ITS MISTERY. Good luck. tithe isn't even PAID... its GIVEN or BROUGHT to God's house. those words are used just to show that the 10% doesn't belong to us in the first place.
remember, ''the letter killeth but the spirit givetg life''

Matthew 23:23, Jesus says...

"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things''.
you see FAITH there? yeah, so, even tithing would NEVER bring blessings if it isn't done out of BELIEVE, if one doesn't show mercy and walk in justice.

tithing isn't a magic as most people think.

Here Christ was speaking to them concerning their law, cos they were still under that law till his death on the cross, ......but you have ignored/neglected the more important aspect of that law they were practising. here Christ speaking of their hypocrisy which is cherrypicking the law, doing one and leaving the other, in fact from this verse tithing wasn't one of the important aspect of that law they were given. the important ones are justice, mercy, faith. But this shouldn't be a problem since it is all about the law which didn't make anything perfect, Christ's death and resurrection did what the law couldn't do.I , I mean I, am not under the law

YelloweWest:
Those have been ameliorated by the blood of Christ.

Christ said turn the other cheek.

Is there any where in the bible that said we should not pay tithe?

is there anywhere in the bible where Christian were commanded by our lord Jesus Christ or the apostle to pay tithe ?

anochuko01:
Ever heard of Melchizedek the Priest? Go study HEBREWS 7. Especially Vs 1-10. with Jesus now my high priest, tithing even carries more power.

That's not correct.
Good, the priesthood is changed, Jesus is the new priest now and he remains this priest forever, he can't be replaced or substituted and no one stand on his behalf in doing the work of the high priest. If you read Hebrew 7 well you will see that when a new priest(Jesus Christ) who came from another tribe moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood ( which is the Levi), when this priesthood is changed there is also change in the rules and laws regarding the priest. Other priest who served before were not perfect and so was their work. in fact go and read your Bible.
you have read Heb 7:1-10, then continue from vs 11 to end to get the teaching in Heb7.
Hebrew7:11-28
" Now if perfection [a perfect fellowship
between God and the worshiper] had been
attained through the Levitical priesthood (for
under it the people were given the Law)
what further need was there for another and
different kind of priest to arise, one in the
manner of Melchizedek, rather than one
appointed to the order of Aaron? For
when there is a change in the priesthood,
there is of necessity a change of the law
[concerning the priesthood] as well. For
the One of whom these things are said
belonged [not to the priestly line of Levi but]
to another tribe, from which no one has
officiated or served at the altar. For it is
evident that our Lord descended from [the
tribe of] Judah, and Moses mentioned
nothing about priests in connection with that
tribe. And this becomes even more
evident if another priest arises in the
likeness of Melchizedek, who has become
a priest , not on the basis of a physical and
legal requirement in the Law [concerning his
ancestry as a descendant of Levi], but on
the basis of the power of an indestructible
and endless life. For it is attested [by
God] of Him,
For, on the one hand, a former
commandment is cancelled because of its
weakness and uselessness [because of its
inability to justify the sinner before God]
(for the Law never made anything
perfect); while on the other hand a better
hope is introduced through which we now
continually draw near to God. And indeed
it was not without the taking of an oath [that
Christ was made priest] (for those Levites
who formerly became priests [received their
office] without [its being confirmed by the
taking of] an oath, but this One [was
designated] with an oath through the One
who said to Him,
And so [because of the oath’s greater
strength and force] Jesus has become the
certain guarantee of a better covenant [a
more excellent and more advantageous
agreement; one that will never be replaced
or annulled].
The [former successive line of] priests,
on the one hand, existed in greater numbers
because they were each prevented by death
from continuing [perpetually in office];
but, on the other hand, Jesus holds His
priesthood permanently and without change,
because He lives on forever. Therefore
He is able also to save forever (completely,
perfectly, for eternity) those who come to
God through Him, since He always lives to
intercede and intervene on their behalf [with
God].
It was fitting for us to have such a High
Priest [perfectly adapted to our needs], holy,
blameless, unstained [by sin], separated
from sinners and exalted higher than the
heavens; who has no day by day need,
like those high priests, to offer sacrifices,
first of all for his own [personal] sins and
then for those of the people, because He
[met all the requirements and] did this once
for all when He offered up Himself [as a
willing sacrifice]. For the Law appoints
men as high priests who are weak [frail,
sinful, dying men], but the word of the oath
[of God], which came after [the institution
of] the Law, permanently appoints [as priest]
a Son who has been made perfect
forever.

YelloweWest:
But tithe is in the bible na...

Yes it is, likewise animal sacrifice, and stoning and killing of your child when he or she insults you

SnowJay92:
How does one avoid this like of fire? Paying tithes??

Nice question. so avoiding the lake of fire is now based on paying tithe and no longer about the finish work of Christ? some don't even know that God doesn't need your money, he expect you to help your neighbour with it

An2elect2:
The church of God does not receive tithe. All those collecting tithes are liars and robbers and they obey no one but their father, the devil.

No need telling them what they can't understand, they will only call you names, but won't ask you to explain or Atleast to prove it from the scripture

otipoju:
With sound arguments kindly expose the tithe fraud.!!!

why is no one quoting the tithing done in Deuteronomy ?

Deu 14:22-29
" Make an offering of ten percent, a
tithe, of all the produce which grows in your
fields year after year. Bring this into the
Presence of GOD, your God, at the place he
designates for worship and there eat the
tithe from your grain, wine, and oil and the
firstborn from your herds and flocks. In this
way you will learn to live in deep reverence
before GOD, your God, as long as you live.
But if the place GOD, your God, designates
for worship is too far away and you can’t
carry your tithe that far, GOD, your God, will
still bless you: exchange your tithe for
money and take the money to the place
GOD, your God, has chosen to be worshiped.
Use the money to buy anything you want:
cattle, sheep, wine, or beer—anything that
looks good to you. You and your family can
then feast in the Presence of GOD, your
God, and have a good time.
Meanwhile, don’t forget to take good care
of the Levites who live in your towns; they
won’t get any property or inheritance of their
own as you will.
At the end of every third year, gather
the tithe from all your produce of that year
and put it aside in storage. Keep it in reserve
for the Levite who won’t get any property or
inheritance as you will, and for the foreigner,
the orphan, and the widow who live in your
neighborhood. That way they’ll have plenty
to eat and GOD, your God, will bless you in
all your work"

Here the tither was asked to eat his tithe before the presence of God, so he will learn how to reverence God for what they have gotten from the land the lord has given to them.

otipoju:
With sound arguments kindly expose the tithe fraud.!!!

why was tithe paid then

otipoju:
Fact one : Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek. When he knew that he was a priest of the Most High.

Fact two: Abraham regularly gave offerings to strangers. A habit that led to his barren wife being able to conceive.

I am saying tithing is an open secret to attract supernatural blessings.

Giving to those in need is also equally powerful.

I also also proved that it it's origins predate the establishment of Judaism nor Christianity.

If you have anything to disprove this please present your argument.

If not have a nice day.#follow who know road.

from your fact one: Abraham gave tithe of the spoilt of war from the rescue of the kings. He was not commanded to do that, and after given to Melchizedek, he didn't keep anyone to himself, he gave the rest back to the kings who were the original owner of those things Abraham brought. So Abraham wasn't commanded by God to give anything.
Your fact two: Abraham's regular gift to strangers made Sarah conceived, Hahahahahahaha. Sarah conceived based on the promises of God to Abraham. God said to him, I will BLess and multiply thee, and shall be the father of all nation. so what you are saying if Abraham hadn't been generous, Sarah wouldn't have conceived?? lolz are you sure you are a Christian or just attending church and quoting your pastor

Kentura:
Taaah, sheraap there osiso!

Abeg, park one side with your lies and fake doctrines!!


Blind follower thaa cannot open her bible and study for herself.. na you wey dy obey devil by preaching against what's in the bible.

between you and the person you were abusing, who really opens the bible on his or her own to study? some don't even know what tithe is, who should pay it, for what purpose, who were commanded to pay the tithe, to whom should the tithe be paid. it only takes good bible scholar to spot the tithe fraud, majority of the people don't even know about that.

otipoju:
Tithing is neither a Christian nor Judaistic teaching. It is a universal principle that activates manifold blessings.

Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek who was a priest of the Most High...over four hundred years and long before the Laws that formed the bedrock of Judaism was giving to the Israelites by the hand of Moses.

What you really do when paying tithes is to declare abundance to the universe which in turn reciprocates by increasing the giver.

It's not a Judaistic nor Christian concept its God's principle that cuts across any religion.

Give and you shall receive in abundance.

so you are trying to say that what Abraham gave was what increased him, ? lolz

Sarang:
They leave on their own accord. When you start doubting Jehovah, you will eventually leave. We won't force them to stay either. Jehovah loves a service by choice.

when they start reasoning/doubting the teaching. Which one is doubting Jehovah kwa ?

ismokeweed:
Hope he will allow her reach maturity before peddling her off to his cronies.

Sanusi. na educated Muslim. he isn't like those cut and join fellows. surely the girl too wont lag behind

Sarkki:
Sanusi Is An Hypocrite !!
He Will Be Lynched By His Own Ppl Soon !!
The North is Poor, Yes But How Dare He Say It To Them ?

that's called being pragmatic, ie calling a spade a spade and not shovel Certainly you are the one practising Hypocrisy

if only they will listen to him

Sarang:
Told you before. We don't disfellowship people on that ground.

so what happens to them if people are not disfellowship base on rejecting or doubting the teachings