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asuustrike2009:
You serve Satan. You gods is very wicked

No, they are not wicked. They are only carrying out their duties assigned to them by Almighty God.

When you come close to them, you are going to like them.

They are loving, kind, nice, generous, protective...

asuustrike2009:
Those are not pastors but thieves. No genuine pastor visit babalawo

Those are real pastors just like real babalawos that also covert to become a Christian and throw away his divination tools and Orisas statues?

The difference here is that, Christians love publicity alot. Any little thing that happens in their churches are on TV, internet... Unlike ATR, most of our miracles, healing.... are not publicize.

Thanks to new generation Babalawos that have started posting initiations, charms, ebos... photos and videos on social networks.

Originakalokalo:
He said he worships God .

And that pastors come to get powers from them.

Pls read the thread.

Try and do a little research on ATR.

You will be amazed that we are not evil as churches and media paint us.

We worship Almighty God in our own way and not the Christian way which I stated earlier on this thread.

Because we don't believe in jesus or devil or hell doesnt make us evil.

We have one of the best religion in the world.

We respect our elders even to the extent of respecting our ancestors, we have good morals and we are very close to nature.

The whites that brought Christianity to Africa are coming back to Africa to learn ATR......

Darwinthegreat:
Its very upsetting to see that Christians belittle other religions. You do realize that its just a world view among the other thousands there is, even if its a major one. Believe in what you believe in without disrespecting others. We can't all be Christians and I'm pretty sure the bible emphasized on 'Judge not'

Thank you so much for your matured comment.

One of the best comment I have read on this forum

maninchrist:
The bolded statements can't be any more wrong.
I'm sure you know that the powers you harness are far lower to the power of the believer (by virtue of the holy spirit)
As far as spiritual hierarchy is concerned, the least believer is superior to you. You don't need to go as far as comparing yourself to pastors (teachers of God's Word).
So please use your words carefully. Thanks.

If your above statements were true, why do believers secretly visit us for spiritual help?

Why do pastors, apostles, bishops, archbishops, prophets, evangelist... secretly visit us for powers?

You know your statement is not true.

I will not be surprise if you haven't visited a Babalawo before.

Try and respect other people's religion and tradition.

You read the topic but yet, you went ahead to dive in and point wrong fingers at me.

CURIOSITY KILLS THE CAT

A piece of advice, stick to Christianity topics only

analice107:
If they have such powers to cast spells on people like that, they'd ve done so to everyone on earth. Satan doesn't have such power. He is as powerful as you make him.

The demons working for them can be evoked to work against them very fast, all you need is a higher power and a valid justification.

Point of correction: we don't serve satan and demons don't work for us.

We serve Almighty God through His various Gods and Goddesses.

We serve Almighty God through our ancestors.

The higher power you talked about is what we harness to do our bidding through powerful incantations, ancient evocations, ebos, five elements, ase...etc.

Don't be deceived by nollywood lies that portrays a Babalawo to be inferior to a pastor.

A Babalawo is not inferior to a pastor or any religion priests.

I am proud to be a Babalawo.

judedwriter:
Lol...are you this afraid of a spell caster? God pass them jare....

And who told you we don't serve God?

MhizzAJ:
Na wa
Digital Babalawos

Is there anything wrong for a Babalawo to use the internet?

Àború Aboye, Ogbó Ató, Àsúre Ìwòrì Wòfún

Rate My "Occult Altar: Powerful Spells On My Occult Altar" Video. I Practice What I Teach. Occultism Is Practical


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxEGEqENRu4&feature=youtu.be

Wait! Let demigod666 defend himself here. SATANISTS ARE ATHEISTS; THEY DON'T DO CHARMS, SPELLS... ETC.

Quote me anywhere and I will defend myself.

Proof: http://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

bitrhyme:
https://www.nairaland.com/4063644/beware-nairalander-hugbo-orore-demigods666

Bros this is where all the evidence lies, demigods666 is just a scam artist, just get him off this thread before he starts looking for people to buy materials for in the name of 6th and 7th eye, traditional cleansing and so on and so forth he is just a thief so beware

Demigod666, how can you be an atheist and at the same time be a theist? It's IMPOSSIBLE. Read the sentences below from the official website of the church of satan and defend yourself here

http://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

F.A.Q. Fundamental Beliefs

Why do Satanists worship The Devil?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

Do Satanists perform sacrifices?

No. We are atheists. The only people who perform sacrifices are those who believe in supernatural beings who would consider a sacrifice to be some form of payment for a request or form of worship. Since we do not believe in supernatural beings there is no reason for a Satanist to make a sacrifice of any sort.

I heard that Satanism supports sex with children and other ways to harm them—how do you justify that?

Satanism has strong rules prohibiting sexual activity with children and non-human animals. In fact, if a Church of Satan member abuses children sexually or otherwise, his membership is automatically terminated without possibility for re-instatement. The Church of Satan also does not accept anyone who is not legally adult as an Active Member. In Satanism, sexual activity is only advocated between consenting adults.

Do Satanists ritually abuse people?

No. Our ritual is basically a form of self-therapy and is most often done in private. The three basic rituals are presented in The Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey and these do not demonstrate any type of abusive behavior.

What is “Theistic Satanism”?

There is no such thing. People who believe in some Devilish supernatural being and worship him are Devil-worshippers, not Satanists. Anton LaVey was the first to define Satanism as a philosophy, and it is an atheist perspective. “Theistic Satanism” is an oxymoronic term and thus absurd. In Satanism each individual is his or her own god—there is no room for any other god and that includes Satan, Lucifer, Cthulhu or whatever other name one might select or take from history or fiction.

Isn’t LaVey’s Satanism just plagiarized from other sources?

When LaVey refers to an idea, concept, or quote derived or taken from someone else, he often cites the author, either in the paragraph or in the indexes of his books. If anything LaVey writes seems similar to past concepts, oftentimes, it is augmented with modern circumstances, as well as his own thoughts. Seeing that Satanism is a work in progress, an attempt for melding science with philosophy, we are fully justified in choosing the concepts of old, working with them in our context and taking them into the future. (If we didn’t, who else would?) This is the same process used by scientists, doctors, psychologists, and many other professionals. Nothing would get done if individuals merely went along with established thought and never added to it. It’s evolution, pure and simple.

Demigods666:
Dude I am not hating on you, I am just saying there are other things attached to sex spell working and what you posted is just the basic won't be effective for 98% of people here who will do it because they are in experience if they don't power it up with energy from their GD and talisman, but nonetheless I reserve my contribution, you are doing a great job, maybe you will teach them that and for that bitrhyme dude, I don't know what his problem, I told him to come let me do the work he brought money for, he refuses and decides to keep fooling himself here, how is that my headache? You can view my thread I already addressed the issue.

terrezo2002:
Two losers fighting

What is a Christian doing in Sex Magick thread?

Didn't you read the topic before clicking it?

Smrh Hypocrite

TheMystic:
Dude, you're being questioned, accused, literally suggested on this forum as fake and a copy and paste guru. The best you can do with MuttleyLaff's suggestion is again to copy and paste his suggestion almost in verbatim?

Where lies your originality?

Blame none.
Yes, truly your out-of-control ways of handling issues eg blamed on anger isn't with reverence from someone claiming such status and provokes serious doubt and caution.

First impression matters alot. This is your first comment here and this is all you could comment?

A BAD TREE CAN NEVER PRODUCE GOOD FRUIT. SO I AM NOT SURPRISE BY YOUR BAD COMMENT

I hope the talismans / seals you are selling on Nairaland photos were not copy and paste?

You should clear your name from chemystery that accused of being a 419 here: www.nairaland.com/3985574/magickal-talismans

Please post your proofs of demigods666 here and let him defend himself

bitrhyme:
My brother demitouts666 sorry demigods666 is just a common thief and i have proofs here on nairaland, he does not worth your attention, he is just looking for cheap popularity so he can hide under your posts, then single out one victim and scam him or her that is if he has not done that already, announce it here on your thread o, demigods666 is a thief, a scammer, he has no address, no regular phone number, no legit contact, not even his face on whatsapp or anywhere yet he comes here to spit trash on your thread, please dont give him that chance he is something lesser than a fool, not even up to the level of a thief, he is just a tout, ignore him. Thank you.

demigod666

Am I competing with you?

Why all these hate from you?

Your negative comments on my thread is uncalled for.

What exactly is your problem with me?

Don't you think it's high time you face bitrhyme and clear your name of being a scammer.

Demigods666:
Roflmao, see babalawo the lecture satanist.

Dude, I became a satanist first before going into African traditional religion.

You cannot match with me. All you are doing here is Google copy and paste.

You have not done any practical, all this is just out of mere curiosity.

How do you want me to help you?

ausproxi:
Aboru boye baba.
Baba please help me, exams has started already and I am yet to pay up. Edakun Eshaanu mi

The picture I attached to the prayer I gave Ishilove was used merely for aesthetic pleasure and I wasn't necessarily claiming any association with the picture nor with anything or anyone featured in it.

IditaBoy:
I am not interested in being dragged into the drama going on but that man has me very curious about his originality.

1. His thread on Eji Ogbe is very vague, lacks depth, generic and quite misleading.

2. Claiming to be a Babalawo and scraping a picture of Obatala kings/chiefs off the internet left me confused. What purpose was that supposed to serve? Graphic effects? For someone who put an Obatala kings' picture taken as far back as 2011/12 at my family compound but claims to be a Babalawo; how do we know the other videos and graphic stuff he has been bandying haven't been copied off of other places?

I had to call him out for mixing my compound stuff with practises of another compound - Obatala is far to Ifa, they're in no way the same.

Thank you for your compliment and testimony. I so much appreciate it, the Irunmoles appreciates it. Most people do not like to affiliate themselves with Babalawos publicly because of the stigma that goes with it but for you do so?

When you call, ten will answer even your enemies will answer.

Wisdom is better than wealth and riches, better than silver and gold. May Orunmila give you wisdom, knowledge and understanding whenever you cry to Orunmila.

It is a taboo for a child of Ogun to die by accident, cutlass or knife. May Ogun protect you from accident, cutlass and knife whenever you cry to Ogun.

When a child cries, the mother answers. May Aiyalala protect you from all injustice and avenge you whenever you cry to Her. Anyone that curse you will receive the curse x100.

The sea never run dry of wealth and riches. May you never run dry of wealth and riches whenever you cry to Olokun.

Ase

Igyeseh:
You judge him to quick please. Allow him to come and clear the air himself.
I have had some dealings with him and I can confidently and publicly say that he is not fake.
He knows what he is doing, so condemning him online won't be acceptable by me.
If there are fake babalows out there, I won't deny, but this particular one we are discussing here isn't a fake, a scam or a fraud because I have interacted with him physically.
Am speaking out of experience.

Zenlife was never my client and his information I posted here on Sex Magick Thread were already an available public information on nairaland that can be accessible by anyone from anywhere. My client confidentiality was never posted here. I will never break the laws of silence over an acquirement.

Chubhie:
Your babalawo has shown on this thread that he won't hesitate to use confidential informations supplied to shame any one aggrieved client.

No true spiritualist would break such confidentiality just to score cheap bragging rights.

I will not use most of IFA terms to reply you so that non-initiate can fully understand what I am saying.

This is the most ignorant post I have ever read from someone claiming to be Babalawo. You skillfully avoided my Odu IFA interpretation question on my IFA Oracle video. You know IFA interpretation shows how skillful a babalawo is.

You literally lack history of Africa and you should go for history lesson. Tribes in Africa are deeply connected than you think. Stop monopolizing IFA to a single group in Nigeria. Visit this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire

The colonial masters brought alot of separation among Africans, we are still suffering from it effect to this very day. The ealier you get over this single group mentality, the better for you.

IFA is far beyond a single group. Before you comment wrongly, kindly read the several and different origin of IFA here and tell me which one is more accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ifa

So for you to claim African Tradition Religion to a single ethnic group in Africa is blaspheming.

The above information are public information, visit the above link before you read my personal information.

You claim only Aboru Aboye Abosise is the only true words used in the Yoruba land right?

Is Ondo state not a Yorubaland? Because when I was initiated as Aiyelala Priest at the major shrine of Aiyelala were Aiyelala was originally founded in Ondo State after I finished my Aiyelala rigorous training. Aiyelala Iboru Iboya, Iboru Iboya, Iboru Iboya were chanted repeatedly during the cause of my Aiyelala priest initiation and not Aboru Aboye Abosise.

These were renowned Babalawos who were priests of Aiyelala that conducted my Aiyelala Priest initiation. Some of these Babalawos are above 60 years old and they have been practicing IFA more than 30 years. Are you now saying you are more wiser and clever than these Babalawos?

Are you now saying you know more than these Babalawos? No matter how wise or intelligent a young Babalawo is, he must pay homage to elderly Babalawos. You of all people should know that.

African Tradition Religion is going into extinction, quote anywhere. How many African traditional kings and queens are Christians? Christian African Traditional rulers are increasing everyday and you are here telling me ATR is not going into extinction. I visited a reputable traditional palace in western part of Nigeria and I was shocked to see them do morning Christian devotion in the morning at the palace. I was totally disappointed.

Do you know how many Babalawos children and wives goes to churches? Just be honest for once. Have you watched some Pastor Chris crusade and other popular Christian clergies crusades? Do you see those crowds or you dont have television in your house? How many ATR crusades have you seen with such crowds? Christianity has taken over!

Our brothers and sisters were sold from Africa as slaves against their will to countries like USA, Brazil... etc and they took their religion with them and their religion had been passed down to them from words of mouth from one generation to the other. Although their original religion just like every other religion got corrupted along it way down but that is not the reason for you to completely write them off. You must be very greedy to do so and Orunmila preaches against greed!

You lied when you said there are situations, otura / odi.. etc are pronounced that way trying to make your answer right. Can you post these situations were they were pronounced differently?

Let me burst you open here; some IFA priesthood only pronounce Idi while others pronounce it as Odi, same with Otura / Etura or Ika / Eka or Ofun / Orogun or Ọlọgbọn / Oturupọn / Eturukpon... etc. Yoruba readers, abeg are these names pronounced the same way in Yoruba? Lets be honest to ourselves here. How does Ofun sound like Orogon in the mouth? The IFA priest pronounced it the way he was taught by his IFA priest and his IFA priest teaches him the way he was taught by his predecessors. That is how the chain goes. Although the IFA priest knows of the alternate names to these Odus but he was taught that those alternate Odu names are not the best way to pronounce those Odus just like what you saying here about Aboru Aboye Abosise.

You owe Orunmila and the Irunmoles apologies for making other religion like Christians, Muslims... etc laugh their traditions.

IditaBoy:
Ifa is not ATR, it is Yoruba religion likewise how each nation in Africa have theirs. There’s no need to universalise what belongs to a group for every one.

Anything Ifa outside Yoruba land that isn’t practised as it is done in Yoruba land is not Ifa QED. Yes, there are blocs with varied minute differences in Yoruba-land & these differences have no impact on corruption of words but accent issues.

Isese (NOT ATR) is not going extinct. If you were indeed an Awo who has access to attending meetings & gatherings across Yoruba land, you would know it is not in anyway going extinct and rather it is seething and waiting to take over.

Otura/Odi, Idi has situations where it is pronounced that way but when listing the 16 major Odus they are pronounced as is - Odi Meji, Otura Meji etc.

Neither Ofun nor Ika is the last. Both can be switched as 15th or 16th at any point of divination. Both are equals, no senior or junior between either. Only half baked Ifa initiates pick a junior and a senior out of the two.

‘Abosisi’, ‘Abocheche’ & ‘Abosheshe’ make no sense. Apparently, you are not Yoruba and have no understanding words have meanings. All those words listed above have no meanings - Abosise means your propitiation of the deity will be accepted. ‘Abosisi’, ‘Abocheche’ & ‘Abosheshe’ have no meaning. Isese terms are not just words, they have underlying meanings and when not used as they should causes an error or a void. I can not pray for you saying Aboru Aboye and you do not return the prayer by saying these meaningless ‘Abosisi’, ‘Abocheche’ & ‘Abosheshe’.



All of these are meaningless. You can not invent words for Yoruba stuff, there are words for each. You can not separate Yoruba from Ifa or any arm of Isese. They go together. All the stuff listed above are corruptions found in Santeria, Candomble and whatever and these are not Ifa - simple.

If you are a Babalawo and properly initiated, you will know to learn Yoruba first if you are not Yoruba; you will know to use the actual words for odus and chants; you will know to practise Ifa in its purest form.

Candomble & Santeria are not Isese or Ifa, they are antithetical to Ifa/Isese in many ways and the deities can not be properly fed, propitiated and followed outside of the Ifa in Yoruba land.

Accept my apologies, I was very angry by false accusations of Zenlife. You are a practitioner, you of all people should know anger doesnt allow the spirits to get through for divination. So, I couldnt divine before posting because I was angry. I dont take false accusations lightly.

I have offered my free spiritual services like free divination, free dream interpretations, free occult teachings... etc to members of this forum.

I never asked anyone for money on Sex Magick Thread. Then, why is Zenlife falsly accusing me of fraud on Sex Magick Thread when he was never my client in the first place, he could not afford my divination fee of 2,500 naira?

I have offered several IFA and other forms of divination privately for free for those that have manners but certaining not for Zenlife; he lacks manners and yet he cant afford 2,500 naira but pours his frustrations, anger, hatred... etc on my threads. Am I the one that made him poor? Or am I the cause of his frustrations in life?

Dont forget, you attacked me on my thread some couple of days ago https://www.nairaland.com/4084293/reincarnation-proof-how-remember-past

And this new attack coming up here again on Sex Magick Thread. It is human to think you have alternate accounts.

I will leave you alone and face Zenlife, Iditaboy and others.

Thanks for your time

Sarassin:
Babalawos, this is the most appalling post I have ever had directed against my person on Nairaland. Let me be clear I am neither Zenlife nor Iditaboy, I have no other monikers on Nairaland and on the evidence of the nonsense of these pages, I will soon have none.

I have never had any issues with you to my knowledge, I posted a comment on a thread of yours a couple of days ago where I asked for a method on something or the other to do with dreams, you replied me and I left the thread, I addressed you courteously as I try to do with all fellow posters on these pages, other posters asked me to elucidate on the topic, out of respect for you, I declined. That has been the extent of my interaction with you on NL.

I logged on this site today to find a most malicious tirade directed against my person by yourself totally unprovoked and unjustified, I take these extremely seriously. You maintain that I, using an alternate moniker have stalked you, what is the basis of such an egregious claim? you claim that I asked you for a divinatory consultation and could not afford the paltry fee you charge. I am not sure which of these accusations is the more ludicrous, whether it is that I, a classically trained sorcerer will seek out a traditionalist or whether it was that of your fees, of which the lowest value coins lolling about on my desk here will pay several times over!

Look sir, I am not in competition with you, I do not know you, we do not share the same sphere, we do not even reside on the same continent, your tirade towards me betrays a deep seated issue, how is it that you can arbitrarily and peremptorily decide to launch such an assault against me without foundation? what exactly is your problem with me?

You should face your accusers and leave me out of your tawdry affairs. You ought to have carried out a divination to ascertain matters before deciding to poke me in the eyes, you have made a grave error. You are a practitioner, you know the rules, an apology is in order, I have right of way, and I shall not ask thrice.

Thank you for holding up for me when I was away.

Ishilove:
Oh, he must be around somewhere

Zenlife:
Tell the impostor...oooh do tell!!!

All his responses continue to evade the 'Obatala' and Ifa photo query of your compound.

A Smartass John Doe.

sarassin, your hatred for me developed when you begged me using Zenlife username to divine privately for you below 2,500 naira, I refused and I gave you my reasons but you became very angry because you were too poor and too broke to pay for my private divination fee, is that not true sarassin / Zenlife?

This was the first time you asked me for my divination service and you became angry because I did not reply your email quickly, here is the link: https://www.nairaland.com/3247184/ifa-divination-how-consult-ifa

This link is my proof of you begging me to reduce price for my private divination: https://www.nairaland.com/3668972/free-face-divination-online/10

Ever since then you have been obsessed by my posts. sarassin / Zenlife na by force say I must divine for you below 2,500 naira?

NOW SHUT-UP AND READ CAREFULLY STALKER; IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EARTHWORM AND A SNAKE, A LIZARD AND A CROCODILE, A DOG AND A LION? COME TO MY SHRINE AT NO 20 POULTRY ROAD BEHIND ENOGIE PALACE, OGHEGHE PHASE 1, EGOR, BENIN CITY, EDO STATE. LET ME DESCRIBE IT FOR YOU VERY WELL; WHEN YOU GET TO RING ROAD IN BENIN CITY, TAKE A BUS TO EGOR. FROM THERE, ASK ANY BIKE MAN THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BABALAWO ORISHA SHRINE AND THEY WILL TAKE YOU TO MY SHRINE. IT IS A VERY POPULAR SHRINE. WHEN I'M DONE WITH YOU, WHENEVER YOU HEAR BABA, YOU WILL RUN VERY FAST BEFORE YOU HEAR LAWO. IF I COULD BOIL RAW EGGS WITHOUT FIRE, IMAGINE WHAT I WILL DO WITH YOU SARASSIN / ZENLIFE?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rautp6iQAfg

Zenlife:
Tell the impostor...oooh do tell!!!

All his responses continue to evade the 'Obatala' and Ifa photo query of your compound.

A Smartass John Doe.

Must you display your stupidity publicly?

You have been stalking me since I did my Free Face Divination on Nairaland early this year.

I even closed my Free Face Divination thread because of you but you will not let me be.

You kept on stalking me. Are you a gay or you don't have anything useful to do rather than reading all my posts on Nairaland?

Or did I post on your head? Why carry my post on your head like gala seller? Smhr

I prayed for Ishilove and I attached a photo to the prayer without typing anything relating to the photo.

What evil did I do stalker?

Or the swear wey I swear for you don they worry you?

Begin confess now before I evoke more curses upon you and your entire generation

Originakalokalo:
We pray to God. Not to cast a spell.

To save us from Evil. From these things you do.

To get more grace to serve him better.

These are the reasons why we pray.

Really?

We know the power of spells that's why we harness these powers to do our bidding.

We pray to our Gods and Goddesses through spells to protect us, heal us, bless us... etc and they answer us quickly.

We get answers to our prayers through spells and we control our fate and the fate of others through spells.

Spells results are faster than prayers.

These are some of the reasons why we cast spells

Originakalokalo:
Works of the flesh.

Sexual immorality

How many Christians are morally upright?

Did Pastor Chris not teach Masturbation?

Pastor Chris knew the power of Sex Magick

Originakalokalo:
Evil.

When men slept the ENEMY CAME AND SOW TARES.

Don't Christians wake up at midnight to pray? And what are the intentions of these midnight prayers?

Demigods666:
Origins of this spells :satanism.

I thought you strongly kicked against satanism, how come you are now using this? It's clear you just began your journey into this aspect of spirituality even though you might not be a satanist.


Sex magick when empowered with talisman seal like the ones from magical seals of Solomon and energy from a demon (can be one's guardian daemon) becomes very powerful and most effective

Note:

If you have never mediated before or learnt how to visualize, feel and direct spiritual energy, then you won't be able to do this, let no one decieve you.

Not this copy and paste you are doing here.

For you to say sex magick originated from satanism shows you know nothing about occultism. You are still a neophyte!

The origin of sex magick is not satanism. Sex magick has been in existence long before the existence of Christianity.

Alex Crowley the founder of satanism only change the name of sex magic to sex magick so that neophytes like you can easily distinguish it from magic tricks.

Alex Crowley the founder of satanism studied sex magick from various esoteric sources like ancient Hindu scripts, Buddhist scripts, Egyptian holy scripts and Kaballa.

Sex magick goes far beyond Kaballa which mostly uses it to empower sigils or seals or talismans or amulets.

In Hindu Occultism, sex magick is mostly used to raise the kundalini (life force).

Sex magick can be found in different religion and occults fraternities.

You have alot to learn in Occultism.

In ATR, sex magick is used along side with herbs which I stated how to use it clearly on this thread with Osanyin leaves and Osanyin incantation.

The aspect of my teaching of sex magick with candle and the human mind is simply candle magick.

We all have used candle magick consciously or unconsciously either by birthday wishes on candle.

Or candle cross over night held in various churches worldwide where candles are ignited by 12:00 mid night on 31st December in the church and your new year prayers are said on the candle. That's candle magick.

Those Christians that said their new year prayers on their candle with strong convictions (faith) will have their prayers answered (manifest) that new year while others that said theirs with doubts (unbelieve) will have theirs unanswered (unmanifested) that year.

Thank you for reading, leave your comments

Babalawos

Zenlife:
Hmmm,
It's also easier and slippery to evade the query, throw a chest-beating challenge (silly), rather than addressing the observations which you cowardly perceived as an "attack".

You ought to know better than that dude.

I have addressed his observations properly

IditaBoy:
How do I know you are a babalawo when:

1. Your post about Eji Ogbe is quite off mark.

2. You typed Aboye bosise as ‘Aboye bosisi’.

You want me to interpret Otura Irosun?

I don’t necessary need to interpret anything, my post on your Eji Ogbe thread is enough to tell you what you need to know about me.

ATR was never a written tradition, it is an oral tradition that is passed from one generation to the other and that is why ATR is slightly different in different part of Nigeria and the world. IFA practiced in Oyo is slightly different from IFA practiced in Ogun, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Ghana, Brazil, Mexico, Venezuela, Jamaica... etc.

ATR has been existing before countries where created and ATR has been existing for millions of years but it is gradually going into extinction.

Otura which you wrote as one of the Odu in my video can spelled or pronounced as Etura. Idi can also be spelled or pronounced as Odi. Hope you see where I am coming from when I asked you to interpret the holy symbols on my video.

In some IFA priesthood, Ofun is the last 16 major Odu IFA while other IFA priesthood Ika is the last 16 major Odu IFA. Ika can also be spelled or pronounced as Eka. I hope you can now understand how complex IFA is?

In some IFA priesthood, Aboru Aboye Abosisi are used while other IFA priesthood use Aboru Aboye Abosise or Aboru Aboye Abosheshe or Aboru Aboye Abocheche.

Some IFA priesthood also use Iboru Iboya Ibosisi or Iboru Iboya Ibosise or Iboru Iboya Ibosheshe, Iboru Iboya Ibocheche... etc. I hope you can now understand how Aboru Aboye Abosisi or Abosise or Abosheshe or Abocheche or Ibosisi or Ibosise or Ibosheshe or Ibocheche are used through out in IFA priesthoods?

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Babalawos

IditaBoy:
I am not here to knock your hustle but it is mandatory in traditional system for things to be done properly.

Firstly, it is Aboye Abosise.

Also this picture I included below which you attached is that of my uncles at the temple in my compound which is Obatala’s and has nothing to do with Ifa.

The first three men from the right are dead, the man at the extreme is presently the King and head of the clan 2nd to the Ooni/Obadio (Oduduwa’s family).

Are you a Babalawo or an Olorisa, and do you know the working of these things at all? Make you nor go ruin people lives o or clean them out of their monies.

It's easier to hide behind Internet and type trash on public forums like this.

I doubt if you a babalawo because if you do, you just broke the babalawo code of conduct:

"A BABALAWO NEVER ATTACK ANOTHER BABALAWO"

Let's discuss IFA publicly here. IFA is practical and not theory.

Interpret these symbols that came out for a client in my shrine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es19D9B4TQw

terrezo2002:
Well I have proves
First, through the stories of people who died and were resurrected again. They came back to tell us how hell or heaven is and when compared with the Bible, it was confirmed to be true. I have a visited hell in my dream and it is still same with the Bible.
Sleeping is not dying because you are still breathing. You die when your system shuts down and your soul leaves your body.
For reincarnation, two different people can't share a soul. Once you die, your soul goes to a place to await judgement, you can only come back to life only if God says it is not time.
I know stories of reincarnation were you think a person who has died came back..I even know of a man who died and the next baby to be born in the family was born with parts of the cloth used to bury the man. These are demonic influences and not reincarnation.

You fear what you don't understand by calling it demonic. There's nothing demonic about reincarnation!