onegig: told me he called them or so and see the thing o..he was seriously looking forward to the job. Yeah he had lots of experience but was willing to learn new things and broaden his scope and gaining more useful experience . He was also looking forward to team up with better minds he would meet there. What experience level did you put there?

well...maybe they'll still call or email or something....cos that's exactly why I was giving joining them a thought myself, basically to broaden my skills in networking, and whichever other field they've got...was just skeptic when I received the info. that they send some interns packing after all the conditions, stress, and time,plus if u decide to resign before the 2yrs expires, u'll pay back every cent you've received in terms of salaries and training...on top of that, bad pay, willing to receive a lesser pay in exchange for more skills tho. cos that's the key.

NB: What date was this friend of urs invited for the oral interview>

No wonder...that must be why I haven't heard from them myself. Na wa oo! "Overqualified" 9ja!!! , so we are not qualified simply cos we're overqualified hahahaha....what an irony mhen !!

onegig:


have a friend who applied...So have you been contacted yet?

Not yet, hv they contacted ur frnd?

Pls ppl, we wld lv u to shear stuffs like precise questions asked,terms and conditions etc,figured questions may not b repeated with most applicant, but ppl wld at least have an overview on what to expect, thnx guys.

Ex-italiano:
@ boneruns. Is d 45k annual or monthly?

@Ex-italiano "annual".....duhhhhhhh? no b Afghanistan we they naaa...

Realized they contact ppl in stages..for those yet to receive an official invite, expect it still, there are too much conditions on ds job, frm a reliable source, heard only d few selected best interns will b offered full employment at d end of the prog. Others will b dropped one by one anytime after d 6th month, if the company feels that intern isnt adding value to d comp., for those that went to their office, pls come back and shear here, so others can learn, and if any IT ENGINEER intern,participated in d interview yesterday,pls.that applys particularly to me, abeg let me knw ooo!terms, condition,remuneration, job description etc. Thnx

@afrobaby Alright then, maybe they are not ready yet, lets keep our fingers crossed.

hello peeps, any ideas if signal alliance contacted any applicant yet, after the submission of the filled "recruitment form" stage?

received the recruitment form just yesterday myself, it says to fill and submit before Wednesday, next week, I do hope signal alliance is a BIG time Company, cos as a cisco guy, need all the experience I can gather. are we going to be interns for two whole years? that's a long time mhen....*smiles*

I was invited to write the test too, will the questions be based on the Job title a candidate applied for or what? anyone out there that has written the online test yet, please keep us apprised, thanks a bunch.

@bluecell, pls repeat after me....my name is "Mr thief" and I'm out to rip you guys off! lolz, so "MR THIEF", got any idea if the authentic vacancy from telnet is still open? I'm not talking about this crap u got on here ooo!

@okeyxyz  Makes total sense, thank the lord for the internet/ Naira land, really, two heads are better than one, wouldn't have thought of viewing it from your point of view, even in a billion years, would work on this and in time let u know how it goes, thank u

@okeyxyz, Would love that! cos I know Experience is a really BIG criteria, really wished I could afford it, cos frankly been praying to God I don't want any other job than a tasking one that would place me at the center of where my skills would be required every other second, but really, do u think I'll receive positive responses working into a big organization  from nowhere and asking to work/join as a volunteer? would I be taken seriously??

thanks, cos was previously just having humane doubts and telling myself, wouldn't I be better off spending the money already spent on PGD/ Masters instead?, but I know IT is what I really want.

thanks, cos was previously just having humane doubts and telling myself, wouldn't I be better off spending the money already spent on PGD/ Masters instead?, but I know IT is what I really want.

@laidback hope you hv "en secret" configured,as well as console password and don't vty configured on it? cos this is the internet pal, any ill intentioned person can telnet into your router with d info. in your attachment, I must say I learnt from the ds trend sha, it seemed like a really cool lab activity ripe for troubleshooting,

Any advice from Nairalanders would go a long way, Do employers pay attention to Bsc. degree level when applying for an IT Job with your Certification?? cos I Graduated with a 3rd class degree in Statistics, 2008, Always hv been good with computers &IT networking/security is something av had passion for since day 1, am done with my CCNA (Academy certification) now and began CCNP traning at APTECH, but can't seem to cope with fear that even with the expertise I now posses, My third class degree may affect when it comes to getting EMPLOYED in places like Telecoms, banks(IT Department) and other IT inclined companies,DO U THINK AM ON D RIGHT TRACK HERE? ANY SUGGESTIONS? Thanks.

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dont mind my typos i meant you need! anyway i got my dream job as a DBA in 2009 with no experience whatsoever! heck i even failed the written, oral and practical exams!but because of a simple prayer i said "Lord let your favour be on me, so that when they see me they will see you"! that was it and i got it!

mmmhhh, this inspires me.

Beaf:

You asked for advice and I gave guru level advice. If you don't like it, hop on the bus. Nobody has their ambition set so low as to be compared with selling pure water.
Yesterday, punched cards were all the vogue, even though thats now prehistoric, there are still machines that use them. I wonder if you advice a loved one to learn how to programme punched cards, because they can be good "pure water sellers." Dude, the programming field is 100% logical and you will quickly find that there is no time for pure water analogies, its either it is or it aint. Black and white rules the roost, not some fairy tale World of pure water.

I did my first SAP/Oracle and SAP/SQL Server installastions more than ten years ago.

Never mix statistics from different sources, it becomes voodoo. I said quite plainly that my source was Information Week, while azum's was Gartner. I don't do rewire and vulcaniser style talk. Please spare me and run along, if you see stagnated figures and call that progress, who is to argue with you? Especially when in the same period SQL Servers market share grew by a whopping 28%?

Please, lets raise intelligence levels, at least azum has some idea of what he is talking about. You don't.

OK, I get it, u're sarcastic by nature, plus u obviously missed my point,anyways it's so clear 2me u did intentionally, I posted this here for fellow nairalanders,  2benefit from, and really don't need to blow my trumpet to explain myself to you Mr "more than ten years ago", no offense, lol

Beaf:

2006 is a very long time in this information age. So many thing have happened since Oracle peaked at 41% of market share in 2005. They have seen an exodus of clients to easier to use db's that are not only more secure, but easier to use by a factor of several magnitudes (eg SAP to SQL Server). Why pay for a system that makes its devs age fast when the same job can be accomplished in half the time and to better quality by systems that cost only a fraction?

There is no future for most making the mistake of jumping on the Oracle bandwagon these days, its better to get broader IT skills (or potentially go hungry).

You kinda sound like the literal meaning of your ID's name, y u come they "beaf" now?? "A saying goes, if na pure water u they sell, be the very best at it and I tell u, u'd leave a mark on History, long after you're gone, where ppl will say, "there lay the remains of the greatest pure water seller",my point: using the word "There is no future for most making the mistake of jumping on the Oracle bandwagon these days", sounds rather harsh, "Oracle DBA" may or may not be losing it's validity, nevertheless, I think if u're very good at what u do, there's always a bright future ahead of u.

Beaf:



@azum
I posted some stuff from information week, but the spambot gobbled it up.
However, you yourself have just posted figures that show no growth for Oracle since 2005. So whats your argument?

If its been hovering around 48% (by your figures) for the past few years, it simply backs my point that nobody is buying it anymore and the market for Oracle DBA's is saturated.
All I'm saying is that, it makes no sense becoming an Oracle DBA in todays World. Its the waste of a young life, its time misspent, thrown to the dogs, binned, trashed, donated to charity etc; better to learn more productive and rewarding stuff. Nobody should be adviced to dedicate their future to something that is slipping out of the mainstream and increasingly becoming a niche product.

, bros! if it was 41% in 2005 and 48% in 2007/8, would u call that a decline? and correct me if am wrong oo!!, the demand for oracle certificates where even higher in year 2005 wey the thing never increase to 48%, na logic now, it doesn't have to be 99% b4 it can be viewed as "progressing",

azum:

Simple. A lot of questions you face at Oracle DBA interviews require that you've dont it to be able to answer it. These are not choice questions. let me give you a vivid example, there is a whole world of difference in the installation of Oracle 11g Release 1 and Oracle 11g Release 2. I doubt if there is any book out there that cover the little details. Even if there is, the way someone who has only read about it anwers questions on such will definitely defer from the way someone who has actually installed both installation will answer the same question. Trust me i know what i am talking about. When ASM was introduced with Oracle 10g, my first experience of using it was done on my laptop where i had to simulate raw devices. This was even before i had the opportunity of doing it in a real life environment. This in fact gave me the confidence such that when i finally had to do it, i had the basic hands-on of how it works.
Once you got shortlisted for an interview, the major hurdle is gone. What remains is your ability to prove to the interviewer you can actually do the job. Even at that for greenhorn DBA's, look to start with a small IT company rather than looking to start with a big bank or big company. That way you can learn to crawl before you learn to run DBA speaking. And believe me, cant say about Nigeria since its being long i since worked there, but in major companies worldwide, DBA jobs are segregated. Each DBA has a specific assigned tasks to do. So imagine in a situation where as a DBA all you do is managing and ensuring backups are run, how do you get up to skill in skillsets like performance tuning, high availability etc.  Now you get my gist?

, yeah I believe I do, but my point still is; in naija "years of experience" is still a great criteria for getting shortlisted at all,and here I think database is actually losing it's grip,i.e "an employer here, would rather employ a programmer that can as well perform the task of a DBA, in other to save cost for employing them both" then if I may ask, I've a feeling u've got "IT" qualifications,more than that of a mere DBA, I'm sure I'm right, right?