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GloriousGbola:
As if we did not live through the first wave in naija where so many wealthy people went

As if we did not witness the first wave in Italy
As if we did not see what we feared for naija happen in India.

Na, the real issue is American diet.

Do you personally know anyone that died of covid in Nigeria?

[quote author=chopnaira post=113344646][/quote]Relative to population, they did better than France, Spain, and the UK.

Furthermore, Sweden's neighbouring countries are only about half its population. Meaning that the raw number of deaths don't tell the full story. They got the best of both worlds without sitting down they're economy and throwing the citizens into poverty.

I also noticed that you were silent on Nigeria.

GloriousGbola:
You are trying to conflate rights with irresponsible behaviour during a pandemic?

This is the mentality that has destroyed the US standing in the world.

Movies had always portrayed the US as the nation that leads in any world crisis.

But we all saw a nation of over indulged spoilt brats who could not bear the tiniest inconvenience in the name of the greater good.

Imagine if independence day the movie had actually happened. Or maybe a ww2 blitz of American. I can see whiny Americans bitching about the tyranny or radio silence. Or the evil of rationing. Of the cruelty of being ordered to switch off all lights at 9pm.


Give me my freedom!

Sweden didn't lockdown and did no worse than many similar countries that did. Nigeria, 3rd world as it is, opened up relatively quickly. Nobody cares about mask mandates. Hell, many people didn't even believe covid was real but we did extremely well. Americans died because they are fat.

GloriousGbola:
Except none of these heroic responsibile good guys with guns are ever anywhere to be found when they are actually needed. Where are all these well trained heroes when schools are getting shot up?

Schools are gun-free zones so responsible gun owners had to obey the law.

GloriousGbola:
Assault cars. Thank you. I have learnt something new today. Assault cars. I guess you have already gone full mad max and are ready to travel to valhalla on the fury road.

Draconian lock down situation eh? Oh yeah I remember - muh freedoms!

"Muh freedoms!" You mean that thing that the likes of William Wilberforce, King Jaja, Mandela, Gandhi, and MLK fought for?

GloriousGbola:
You tell me - the country with gun lunatics who have 50 different weapons, who take Christmas photos with guns,

Owning big boomstick doesn't make you a psychopath. Taking pictures with big scary boomstick is tacky in my opinion, but didn't make you a bad person. You sound like an evangelical complaining about rock and roll.

GloriousGbola:
who insist on opening carrying but are never anywhere to be found in an actual shoot out,

Oh, so they legally open carry but don't actually use their dangerous weapons until absolutely necessary? Sounds pretty responsible.

GloriousGbola:
and where there were over a dozen mass shootings just this weekend?

Yeah, I agree that Chicago sucks.

benalvino3:
Leave those simps who thinks children they see with guns standing next to daddy and mommy go about shooting people in schools.

None of them are talking about this:

46 shot, 6 killed in Chicago.

15 shot, 12 killed in Philadelphia.

3 shot, 4 killed in Baltimore.

No talk from the simps here, tweets from Joe Biden. No press conferences from Chuck Schumer. No coverage from the news.

But they will cry when you call George Floyd a criminal who died as a result of his addiction to crime.

Leftist gun grabber want to ban guns to stop mass shootings.

Now criminal gangs have all the guns. Criminal gangs generally form in low-income neighbourhoods. African Americans are disproportionately represented in low-income neighbourhoods.

Leftist gun grabbers are now faced with the dilemma of a Prohibition era-like resurgence of organised crime to plague black communities or mass incarceration of disproportionately black people.

Their emotional response to tragedy will make everything worse for anyone.

GloriousGbola:
If this was the case, the US would not be the world capital of school shootings and mass shootings.

Everyone is learning the hard way everyday about gun safety.

Wait, are you saying that most gun owners are murderous psychopaths?

GloriousGbola:
Yeah, like the commie aussies and the commie brits,who saw one small school shooting and said we are going full communist!

Forget the tree of liberty being watered with the blood of toddlers! We want full communist nanny state where we can black helicopter any protesters!

The UK even went further to ban assault knives in public settings to crack down on stabbings. Next they'll ban assault cars to crack down on hit-and-run. Come to think of it, didn't the Aussies just come out of their draconian lockdown situation?

GloriousGbola:
Yeah, they are fully prepared for the coming zombie apocalypse. Fully trained in dual weilding assault weapons. They may even be able to shoot three at a time.

Kyle Rittenhouse definitely was.

GloriousGbola:
That is the problem. Soldiers go through boot camp. They learn to take life up close and at range. These cosplayers are pretending to be hard men, without even going through minimal training.

Most of these children would grow up to be responsible gun handlers just like the vast majority of gun handlers. It is better to learn about gun safety now so you don't learn about it the hard way later.

chopnaira:
Trudeau isa liberal nat ah commie

Most liberals don't praise China's style of government.

chopnaira:
https://meaww.com/uvalde-shooter-salvador-ramos-was-not-an-illegal-immigrant-racist-claims-get-slammed-online

A single tweet that got ratioed to hell doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming narrative was on mental health despite the shooter being Hispanic.

chopnaira:
Kikikikikikiki.

Survfifal skillls ta hunts da deer andi moose witi da semi automatik rifles

You don't need an AR-15 to bring down a deer - Justin Trudeau

Commie Trudeau wants to disarm his citizens. Of course the same guy who, without due process, froze the accounts of people suspected to be engaging in a protest wants to disarm his citizens.

Timiofak:
A right that makes no sense anymore should be explained in a clearly divided country like America.

I'm sure that there are Jihadists in Nigeria that think the same about freedom of religion.

benalvino3:
Buffalo shooter behead a cat as well. Both can be true. He was bullied and laughed at in his school and he also was abusive to animals and girls.

Animal torture and abuse is one of the telltale signs of psychopathy. So many serial killers started with animal abuse and torture before eventually graduating to children, women, and the elderly.

[quote author=gambojimeta post=113329210][/quote]All I see is kids with essential survival skills

basilico:
Mass shootings/presidents in office

Reagan- 31
Bush- 18
Clinton- 54 *
Bush- 49
Obama- 132*
Trump- 40
Biden- 147 (so far)

Lockdowns were disastrous to the people's mental health.

[quote author=chopnaira post=113333426][/quote]So you mean to tell me that the shooter was illegally carrying? It almost seems like violent murderers have no problem breaking the law.

chopnaira:
Kikikikikikiki

People were saying "build the wall" when Salvador Ramos, the Uvalde shooter and a Latino, was identified?

Timiofak:
Lol, ban it

And heavy scrutiny for pistols

You should explain why a license should be given to you and you should be made to pay insurance on it like a car.

Stats show that bans on assault rifles reduces gun violence drastically

Background checks and mental evaluations are fair and good. Explaining why your rights should be given to you and having to pay insurance is nonsense.

First of all, gun violence has been trending down in America for the past two decades. Second, I hope you know that the AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle.

budaatum:
You used it. Didn't you not know what you meant or did my question make you think.

To me its not like a "scary boomstick". Did you mean broomstick?

"Assault-style weapon" implies its a weapon used to assault, as opposed to say a defense-style tool.

LOL all guns are "weapons used to assault". What does term "defensive-style tool" even mean when it comes to guns?

budaatum:
Why do you mind banning weapons styled to assault?

What do "assault style" weapons even mean? It's such a vague term that can literally just be boiled down to "scary boomstick".

gambojimeta:
Ya peddo. Telli dati ta raumdeuter who ah pikin fit fall Fram da bullet ofu AR15 ina texas

Kikikikikikiki

Ya peddo. Tewwi dati ta waumdeutew who ah pikin fit faww fwam da buwwet ofu AR15 ina texas

Timiofak:
Punishing law abiding citizens, by asking them to submit to checks and balances like other sane countries require from its citizens?

I don't mind background checks and mental evaluation. I mind banning of "assault-style" weapons, though.

Timiofak:
Lol I’m driving you to the point, lol. Did osama buy planes ?

He hijacked one, what did America do to stop future occurrences? They beefed up security and made hijacking harder

What do we do to stop daily shooting? Reduce the access to guns

Why don’t other countries have issues like this ? What is the underlying difference , guns are not easily accessible like America

Photos below showing massacres that were all done by legally owned guns.

Photos below also showing pictures of the type of guns American citizens have; some families have enough guns to start a little war,

If you think this is normal, I have nothing to say.

I don't know, man. There are alphabet soup security organizations that spy on Americans. The gunman posted his plans on the internet, so where were they??

There are more guns than people in America, guess what? Most people don't go on murderous rampages.

The people who do are disaffected young men. Address that and you've addressed the problem, are young men committing suicide at record rates? Why are testosterone levels among men dropping to record lows? Fix the underlying issue instead of punishing law-abiding citizens for the actions of <1%.

budaatum:
Based, please provide data on the type and availability of the tools used in mass killings in the past 30 years so we can check if there is a correlation. We might find its hard to mass shoot with a rifle.

The following is to start you off.

What about before the assault weapon ban, though?

Timiofak:
Why as there not being another osama bin laden to take down more American buildings because media covered it well for more than 10 years

Definitely not because they banned planes

GloriousGbola:
the same can be said about the proliferation of assault weapons

not six shooters, not cumbersome hunting rifles, not semi automatics - but weapons actually intended for military use - for massive casualties

that is the underlying factor.

the uk also has disturbed individuals - but how many people can you hurt at one with a knife?

Criminals will still have guns though... funny, I remember Sadiq Khan dating that stabbings were part and parcel of living in a big city

budaatum:
That's what I expected you to say, lol.

Oh, so you knew it was a bad argument.

Timiofak:
Lol. Why just America

Walk me through your thought process

It's more like America has a mix of certain factors that make such shootings possible.

Let's first examine the Columbine shootings with respect to media coverage. The media turned these disgruntled nobodies into infamous figures. This leads more and more people who might be down on their luck beginning to view such actions as a way to gain infamy and take revenge against society. Not to mention, how the internet allows people to create insular communities based on these flawed ideas.

What we need to understand is that these people enjoy the media coverage. They want us to talk about them. They want there to be debates because of their actions. Some serial killers were inspired by other infamous serial killers, likewise this happens with mass shooters.

It's a negative feedback loop and the institutions in place to solve the issue always stay their feet.

The Uvalade shooter had been planning it on social media for years, where was the FBI? The Texas police were on the scene in minutes but didn't have the balls to confront the shooter. Meanwhile a lone woman with a handgun just thwarted another attempt at a graduation party.

budaatum:
Here's some more nearly 300 rights you might want to consider keeping, though some would claim you never lost them.

False equivalence

Timiofak:
“We’ve had slaves for hundreds of years; why should we release them now because of modernity” - white people in the 1870’s

Like I said, mass shootings only became a widespread occurrence within the past 30 years. Thus, indicating that there's another underlying problem that's causing these shootings.