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^^^ you contradict yourself with your post up there, you said God buried him someone you mention the name and later no one know where he was buried. How did you know the name of the place he was buried and no one know the place he was buried. are you making sense at all?

plappville:
The Lord himself buried him in Moab and no one knows where his grave is.
He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is (Deuteronomy 34:5, 6 NIV).

Eplain the bold. He was buried in the Valley opposite Beth peor, And nobody know where he was buried ahhaha. Madam stop deceiving yourself.

^^ sorry madam you have no point at all

@judekYou keep fooling yourself perambulating all over the thread with your false interpretation. Which of verses is right then. which of the verses should we believe?

^^ you keep saying we are talking about present and future what happen to the past? If the past isn't useful then why are you using your bible today? isn't your bible product of the past? someone quote refrence from your bible and your saying he misquote them and also to read all the chapters, did you read all the chapters before you fault the Quran? Abeg go sit down for one side jor

Not sure the FG will take ua serious seeing this

plappville:
U ve never made sense out of u, always waiting for @LagosShia to help u out. Tell me, What's the meaning of your post?

How will i ever make sense when you have been brainwashed. You call someone who was killed pon the cross your own savior, that mean your savior has been killed

^^^ they will always twist the verse and said he is talking in parable

Bulldog:
because the lord ALONE is the maker of those laws and only him can enforce it, [color=#00ff00] "For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay, " and again, "The Lord will judge his people. "" (Hebrews 10:30). [/color]

Then why did he make the law for us?

^^^ are you talking of that living savior that was hanged on the cross hahaha

plappville:
Mr, The attacks are ordered from the QURAN. does who are respecting it are the ones in total submition to the Prophets order.

So how about the MEND,EGBESU etc are there attacks from the bible?

Judek2:
Making a vague claim and backing it with another vague claim only shows how useless your posts can be.
Unless you also provide evidence of your claims and useless story,you are just showing how useless you posts.

Now you have two useless posts to prove the origin and record.
1) Where in the Bible or any other source did they use the sword to fight for that purpose?.

2) Since you claim they couldnt use the sword because they where out~numbered,
Where in the Bible or any other source or historical proof can we gather those informations.

Failing to provide those proofs only shows that your posts are useless and that makes you a useless poster.

Sorry bro i can only provide those verses the day you provide where Jesus claim to be God and claim and that he was sent to Nigeria, Africa as a whole or the whole world

^^Bulldog you keep saying the laws are for the jews,  Now tell me in what book are those laws? Who are the people using the book are they not christains? The laws are in your bible that you put under your armpit and take to church. so why do you believe so much in a book and never follow the messages in the book.

Bulldog:
i'm not expecting those of you Islam faithfuls being manipulated by evil to believe in the truth of Christianity because your allah and mohammed admonished you in quran 9:29
[color=#ff0000] fight those that believe not in allah nor the last day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by allah and his apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued[/color]. This is the true mission of the boko harám. To shun the truth and follow the evil god called allah. Dont say you aren't warned. Dont be deceived.

Hello oga you keep mis interpreting Quran but let me agree with you for now for argument sake. Now let see this,  Let accept Muslim are following there religion and doing exactly what there God said abi, But since they believe in there God and doing what there God said they should do then they are obidient Servant to there God.

                  Disobedient in Christianity

                    1, Killing of the infidel in the bible,

Deuteronomy 13:5-10:
5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

   6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

   7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

   8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

   9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

   10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.



                     2,  Punishment for Adultery

Ezekiel 16:38-40:
38And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.

39And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee Unclad and bare.

   40They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords.


Deuteronomy 22:22-30:

   22If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

   23If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;

   24Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

   25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

   26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:

   27For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

   28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

   29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

   30A man shall not take his father's wife, nor discover his father's skirt.

^^ you forget to read my previous post as it is in the bible

plappville:
Muhammed did same thing as him, plz leave your new prophet alone.
This image should be called Nonsense!

hahah even my 4yrs old daughter know this are Niger Delta Militants shame on you

Punishment for a disobedient son in the Bible
Deuteronomy 21:18-21:

18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Judek2:
That bold is useless just as this bold is also useless.

It will be useful if you show me where the sword was used for your alleged purpose,and if you fail to provide it,then you must accept that you always pastes useless posts.

You know why he did not use the sword? because its too Late and the Romans soldier are very much more than his 12 desciples,  is like you carying gun with another 12 people and facing Battalion soldiers wont you rather surrender?

Abi jare

goggs:
Listing American wars in the Muslim world doesn't invalidate the meaning of live by the sword die by the sword. while I do NOT support some wars America went to, but do yourself a favor and read those links from the very beginning and you will find that there was a reason. even if the use of force is disproportionate. its a case of yatrouble dey sleep yanga go wake am. America doesn't suffer fools gladly.

Seriously, What were you tryin to prove with ya post sef? That the bible passage is wrong?

What am trying to get here is that American have Oppress the Arab Nations for so long, tell me what is the cause of American/Afghanistan?
Tell the cause of the war between American and Libya,Iraq,Vietnam, to name few.

Bulldog:
lol. some entertainment that is. Other places has their law as a group or a country or even a congregation and none and i repeat none of them  is made without taking the people into consideration, or does any of them goes past the domain to which it is applied. Islam is a religion and not a country!  if the various religions in nigeria are to apply their own laws over nigeria and every state is to have their own laws as islam has done, what will the nation be like? Yeah the nigerian government took a bold step towards the prohibition of same sex marriage and the christian community applauded them for that because the punishment was both rational and humane. If muslims where to pass a law on that, is most likely to stipulate that the sex organ of the offenders will be cut off or that hot iron be forced up their sex organs/canals and that's inhuman and evil! for the record, i'm not "pork nosing" into the affairs of islam because it's reeks of blood and evil, i'm only concerned because my brethens are persecuted by mindless set of people that doesn't value life but rather is set up "to steal, to kill and to destroy" just like the boko harám and their allies are doing for allah! Am concerned that in  ignorance people that are supposed to have imparted positively  to nigeria as a country are wasting their lives for a non existent promises.
Islam claim to be peaceful yet see what the quran says about other religions and that's what the boko harám you are denying are doing. If you have a quran(which i doubt) read Q.5: 51
[color=#ff0000] O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as awliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but awliya' to one another'c[/color] this is real falacy because in the Bosnia and Kosovo crisis Christian countries, waged war against another Christian country, to liberate Muslims. Many Jewish doctors volunteered to help the Kosovar refugees, despite the fact that during the WWII, the same Albanian Muslims took sides with Hitler
and helped him in his holocaust against the Jews that nearly wipe them from the face of the earth. So brother  grow up and stop swimming in deception.  christianity stand 4 the truth and islamic doctrines are evil

Oga am not sure you are alright,  We are talking of a Country having there own law and implementing it and you are talking about Islam,  are you that daft? if stone people to death is in there constitution for a crime and someone commit that crime do you want them to overlook. if the law of a land says you shpould not thief and if you do they are going to behead you and you did then you face the purnishment,  I use the law of China for example,  if you are caught doing fraud its death sentence but its not so in some other countries so are you going to say China's are wicked? in the same China if you are caught with Cocaine no matter the son/daughter of who you are the penalty is death but its not so in some other countries are you going to say there law is too harsh? Yes if its too harsh why did you commit the crime,  Do you think every country will be like Nigeria where someone will be caught with Cocaine and jail him for 2yrs,  someone caught still billions will be roaming about the street and still holding some political post,  So if Arab Nations have there law and constitution that guild them. So if you went there or a citizen commit crime then he/she need to face the crime,  The law of Saudi Arabia is if you kill someone they gonna kill you. I remember few months ago when Saudi kill about 3 Nigerians for killing a Fellow Nigeria and someone fools here and against them what are your problems with there law.

Quran 5:51  O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

  what that mean is that you should not take non believer as an Allies,  Now tell me can you be a friend to a Sango worshiper, Oya Worshipper, Ogun Worship of the masqueraders,  I remember a friend ask me why am not traveling home to my Family for Xmas cos my wife is a Xtian and i told him i dont celebrate Xmas cos its not biblical and he take it wrong saying i am going against someone else belief. So i ask him to let us go to one Village next month to Celebrate Ogun festival and he tell why will i join them in worshiping there idols and i tell him why is he going against there belief then he never comment again

Please i want you to explain this verses to me cos someone of your people are ignoring the question.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10:

   6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

   7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

   8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

   9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

   10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

I laugh in Guadalajara,  are you talking about that same Coward of the bible that run to the wilderness when they plan to kill him?
Are you talking about that coward that was slapped and started stammering?
Are you talking of that same coward of the bible that started crying on the cross for safety?
Are you talking of the same man that was tempted by Satan,  Should i keep going?

^^^ Hello Mr are you that daft? am telling you about every counties and there law you are saying one law is wicked and bad are you crazy or something? who is you to interprete there law for them, Nigeria Senate just pass some laws on Gay and some western fools are going against Nigeria Law are they going to make our laws for us? I told you in China if you are caught with Cocaine or Fraud its death sentence you said you dont care about China Law why did you then care about Arab law wetin concern you with there Law. Have they ever pork nose into any other countries law? its there Law and anybody that cannot live with it should pack out of the country Shikena

^^ Do am for me i no go school

^^^ hahah see mumu

^^^^ hmmmm and how about Xtianity?

^^^ WHat happen to laws of every land? I believe every country have there own law and contitution that back them up, FOr example in China, If you wee caught with Cocain its death sentence no matter the son of who you are, If you are caught with Fraud its death Sentence. SO now tell me are they still un stone Age?

So if that country Law says if you thief they gonna cut of your hand then you thief what else did you want as punishment? isn't there constitution that back them up.

Tired of reading too much i don miss gan ooo, @plapp you never respond to https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-832290.288.html#msg9854223

Some people are just clamoring for war like say dem fit fight

goggs:
[color=#990000][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][size=11pt]
"Live by the sword, die by the sword" is a saying derived from a Biblical parable to the effect that if you use violence, or other harsh means, against other people, you can expect to have those same means used against you; "You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_by_the_sword,_die_by_the_sword

So if you believe in this then why are you complain now that the Arab Nations are fighting back? where were you when they are been oppressed?
They are fighting back there Oppressors and you guy call them Terrorist. Where were you when American Declare war and ruin Iraq then am talking about Golf war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

How about the Bombing of Libya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon

Ouadi Doum air raid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouadi_Doum_air_raid

2003 invasion of Iraq
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

[b]Afghan war[/b
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)



Need help on American war both legal and illegal check  here,
http://conservapedia.com/List_of_American_Wars

Judek2:
maybe you didnt see this

Just as a wise man would say the past lays foundation and a pillar of support for the present.

without the OT, there will be no base for the NT.

Then what is the basic of your argument, Ok i have a Question for you. Didi you still believe ion OT?

Judek2:
But Mohammad commanded you to.
He said it is normal to reject what is good for you.
You are a very bad follower.
The bold is useless.

Hmmm the same way Jesus command you to sell your garment and buy sword, ? and tell me what makes the bold useless?

Judek2:
You tried hard and defended yaself. Kudos

But why are you pokenosing on whats not ya business.

Well its my business cos you guys are tarnishing the image of my religion for your selfish interest,

@goggs You have finally derail this thread. Why not try to create another thread to claim about the Noble prize things you are doing here, Typical of Christian ways, But i have put this question forward and nobody has ever answer my question, let trace history to as far back as 1900 Arab nations have been the most peace nation i think from 1900-80's. They never participate in the first and second world war did they? So have you ever ask your self why are this change over night? Also ask yourself who train Osama Bin Laden and what did they use him for? Who lead the squad to invade Libya in the 80's, Who turn Iraq and Iran to each other and make them go to war? who invade Vietnam and kill millions of there Citizen. Now tell American train Osama to be a Terrorist and use him to Terrorize Arab Nations. So if he change overnight and said no am not killing my people anymore and turn to the America who train him that was when they call him terrorist abi. another thing is if a boy wake up in the morning, Find both his parent and siblings dead and he is also badly injure, If they tell that boy that America are responsible for the death of your Family and also they put you in this way do you think he will ever like Americans? Ti eshinshin ba nje elegbo eni o ni ri ooo, Though am not supporting them am only trying to let you know the cause of there brutality.