₦airaland Forum

otokx:
Companies headquartered in Lagos most times hire our brothers in the West in their numbers, they will always give an excuse that those in the Niger Delta are not suitablly qualified.

This is how the majority tribes oppress and exploit the minority tribes.

The sad part is when a minority person gets to the top they now wash his head to forget where he is coming from and then carelessly get caught in corrupt practices which the majority tribes engage in even more.

I think they say lagos is a no man's land and that yorubas in lagos are Agberos and omo onile...

SOME PEOPLE WILL STILL BELIEVE HE IS A MAN OF GOD.THESE ARE SOME OF HIS 2016 PROPHESIES.NON OF IT COME TO PASS:

Some of Apostle Suleiman’s predictions below:
1. If Americans don’t pray, there will be no election in
2016 as Obama want a THIRD TERM. He will throw up
issues relating marital laws.

2. I see a Governor in Nigeria dying.

3. I don’t see some Ministers in President Buhari’s
cabinet in office in 2016. They will be abroad for
medicals.

4. I see another World War (Russia Vs America)

5. Washington and NewYork should pray against
terrorist attacks in 2016

6. Boko Haram has devised new strategies. They will
come to public places screaming for help and when
people gathers to assist, they blow off the bomb.

7. I see Warri, Delta state being bombed.

SO,IF THIS TYPE OF GOD OF MEN IS COUGHT IN BLEEEPING SCANDAL,I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED.

FRANK NWEKE JUNIOR

seriously,obasanjo assembled a very good team.

aribisala0:
The Prof was not making a diagnosis. Last time I checked you need a patient to be making a diagnosis and Buhari is NOT his patient. We must not lose sight of the context


He was conducting an INTERVIEW with the press that was conjectural and speculative on a person of immense public interest and this is what he said

I do not see any confusion over what he said AT ALL

What does PRELIMINARY mean

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aribisala0:
We are discussing a newspaper interview not conducting a hospital Grand Round.

So we need to read what the Prof said and contextualize it properly. There is no need to get into technilaties of what anaemia is or is not.
That is why in hospital it is the more senior and experienced doctors who are mandated to speak to the publc because they have the maturity to properly calibrate their words.

All that dialogue about causes of anaemia etc has its proper time and place . As far as the interview that I read goes it was properly pitched at the audience. The Prof was not addressing an annual scientific/medical conference but the public and his choice of words was spot on.

Nigerian doctors have a very bad attitude ,that is a fact. Not just nigerian doctors, policemen,judges,everyone.The doctors are arrogant and disrespectful and seem to think that textbooks are bibles.This is a cultural issue with the practice of medicine in Nigeria we cannot pretend otherwise. It is this same attitude that is reflected in this thread; The desire to put down or disparage overtakes the capacity to balance ,weigh and reflect.
Nigerian doctors do very well abroad often because they are smart but they must change attitude and imbibe the ability to say " I don't know". Something you willl never hear in Nigeria

I see absolutely nothing wrong with what the prof said but I am not surprised by what I have read head

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aribisala0:
Did you read the interview. Did you reflect on it before commenting.

You sound immature. You claim it is ALWAYS secondary to something. That may be true(it may be essential) but everything is secondary to something. Leaving that to one side once again did you read the interview? A mature doctor wants to be armed with the facts before condemning a colleague. Your post is self serving and not relevant to what HE ACTUALLY SAID.


At any rate have you ever used ICD 10 in your life to make charges for treatment ? Of what relevance is it to aything the prof said that "anaemia is always secondary". He indeed did say as much!!! Let us assume it is secondary to Iron deficiency that may be secondary to a vegetarian diet which is secondary to a religious belief which is secondary to a religious revelation or to poverty or to recession or to the dollar exchange rate ad infinitum.

That is the way medicinie is taught in Nigeria but . secondary conditions like Hypertension like diabetes like dermatitis like anxiety like vitiligo are indeed diagnoses. Nigerian trained doctors have a problem wiith intellectual humility.They know little but think they know everything

quote]......"sound immature"?.firstly.You dont have to
insult one's personality before arguing your point.so
take note of that incase of other time.
2ndly,what facts did the prof you dignified so much
has to make a diagnosis from analysing a picture
without any history.Anyway,as you've stated,you might
have been thought to practice medicine that way
abroad.
3rdly,In Nigeria,we were thought to always investigate
anaemia to determine the cause which will form the
basis of our diagnosis and treat it not just transfusing
with blood and give heamatinics.
4thly,dippression,schiz and co still have pathological
basis which form the basis on which their drugs for
treatment act.Although some pathological basis are
still at hypothetical stage.
5thly,it seems you are so eager to rubbish nigerian
doctors than anything.You dont have to do that to
Marshall your points sir.

[quote author=pestrolus2002 post=54511514][/quote]......"sound immature"?.firstly.You dont have to insult one's personality before arguing your point.so take note of that incase of other time.

2ndly,what facts did the prof you dignified so much has to make a diagnosis from analysing a picture without any history.Anyway,as you've stated,you might have been thought to practice medicine that way abroad.

3rdly,In Nigeria,we were thought to always investigate anaemia to determine the cause which will form the basis of our diagnosis and treat it not just transfusing with blood and give heamatinics.

4thly,dippression,schiz and co still have pathological basis which form the basis on which their drugs for treatment act.Although some pathological basis are still at hypothetical stage.

5thly,it seems you are so eager to rubbish nigerian doctors than anything.You dont have to do that to Marshall your points sir.

aribisala0:
According to your definition

There must be 1.Anatomical
2. Aetiological
3. the observed changes of the condition

Please tell us the anatomical changes and aetiology that are accepted by the profession as typical of schizophrenia,depression or autism

..I don't have time.if you have a different submission.state it.

aribisala0:
According to your definition there are no mental diseases,is that correct?

Is depression a disease?

Is schizophrenia a disease

Is Autism a disease?
Type two diabetes does does not fulfil your 3 criteria rule since there is no anatomic change and the aetiology is almost always unknown or multiple

..They are.if you think they are not in line with my definition,proove it.

aribisala0:
Is hypertension a disease? Is type 2 diabetes a disease? Please define disease?
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Hypertension is not a disease.its a state of high blood pressure which may serve as a sign of a cardiovascular disease.You can only have "hypertensive heart disease" in which the patient will also has high BP.

Type 2 diabetes is a disease.which will have its own feature like hyperglycemia(high blood suger).so,medically you will not call the patient disease "hyperglycemia" or "high blood sugar" but diabetes.The same thing is applicable to the "anaemia" thing.That causes of anaemia which are many is the disease.e g SCD,sickled cell anaemia.I.e Anaemia caused by sickle cell.you will not just say the patient has anaemia but SCD.



. A disease is morbid entity ordinarily characterized by two or
more of the following criteria: recognized etiologic
agent(s), identifiable group of signs and symptoms, or
consistent anatomic alterations.

colloquially for a layman,literature alway muddle the sign and symptom with disease.so,they call everything disease.

Medicos in the house will understand.I'm very sure the prof. will not say buhari has anaemia as a disease.

for me,its the premier university of Ibadan.U.I

They are super genius.....1 or more of the 3 best students is waec in most years have have always be their student.

divinelove:
Dnt worry God is my healer, doctors are over rated

Exactly,everyone is overrated before God.Not only doctors including you yourself.God interference in everything is constant K.

Gaddafithe2nd:
Even before Nigeria economy went south, engineers earn more than doctors. I could remember my lecturer then, telling us (students) how her first son a medical doctor was complaining that his younger brother salary, a computer engineer would pay his own salary for 3months. How many of you doctors are earning fine, that is why most of you are eager to have your own clinics/hospitals. I don't even allow new generation doctors to treat me because most of you aren't doing the job with passion.

....firstly,i'm not a doc.

2ndly,forget about passion this or that.we were all sent to school to study,become a professional and making money.If you have a son that study medicine,Will you tell him that,look,this your job is for passion.to show how passionate are you just set up a private clinic and be treating people for free?...And when your work is not corresponding to your work then you complain.Teachers too can do.it is only when doctors are complaining that they will be shouting passion.Also,they have passion for it that is why they go for it.majority of doctors can study engineering with ease.

3rdly,Nigeria has never been a sane country.Go and listen to fela anti-government songs of the 70s.

Is anaemia a disease?

mployer:
So what was it?

You are just a pained broke doctor. The only seemingly relevant thing in your life is the 'doctor' attached to your name, which is not relevant in true sense.

The society has moved beyond that. Professionas are now respected by their efficient practice not by certificate. Distinguish yourself in the medical field and you won't have a reason to rant about being disrespected.

...you just confirmed that you are a fool and unintelligent.i'm not a doctor.i'm just being objective and not sentimental like you.

Gaddafithe2nd:
I respect doctors but Engineers will always earn more than you guys any time anyday. Moreover, go for what you have passion for not just the money.

You engineers work in multinationals or float your own company.However very few of you always have the opportunity in nigeria.That is the aspect in which Nigeria insanity has affected your own job.You are earning big salary but how many of you?...the article is talking about how it has affected medical profession.

mployer:
Keep fooling yourself. The Society has decided to treat you like a normal profession you are. You have to get used to it.

...I know the the society you are talking of is not a sane society like UK,USA,Saudi arabia.It must be an insane society like Nigeria.Instead of you to join hands in curing the insanity,your envy and jealousy are spurring you at living with it.na wa for you na oooo

mployer:
You must be a big fool to compare teachers with shoe makers.

you must be a bigger fool and unintelligent not to realize that,that was not a form of comparison.

Luiz1:
Did I mention that am a programmer? Nevertheless, u need to appreciate that other professions are equally important. A single bug in a medical software can affect a doctor's diagnosis. An error with a line of code can result in air plane crash and loss of countless lives. What abt the soldiers that lay their lives on the line to defend ur Country's territorial integritty? So, these guys are not equally important just because doctors interact directly with humans?

..you just being quick to voice out your envy and jealousy.The writer never argued that DOCTORS are important than other professionals nor appreciating doctors and humiliating other professionals.so,why are you suddenly talking about programming or whatever?

funmisticqueen:
stop being so myopic.

Are you a doc?

Vendoor:
Village people killed her.......
That sound like what you want to here abi


Op, Death itself is a Natural thing!

and village people is not a natural thing.lolz,just joking.

mployer:
They are professionals just like Teachers. Why do they want to be treated differently.


The write up is good but too long. Read but couldn't finish it.

not just like teachers,na like shoemakers...dindinrin...why can't you just ask a teacher to write his own article.by the way,I dont see where its written in the article that he wants doctors to be treated differently from other professionals.Then,you must be a wounded medical student.

divinelove:
Chai med/surg stds u need to see them as students they feel they r next to God. But most after practising for 20 yrs still live in rented apartments.

Anyway let's follow our passion no profession is better than the other we need everyone on board the shoe maker abo.ki is as important as a medical doctor.

Whatever u do make sure u make enough money for u and ur family to live a good life, money answers everything in life

I have nt consulted a doctor in nearly a decade, not when i kw almost all the drugs for malaria and typhoid I only see my lab man and pharmacy shop when needed

..I pray you don't exceed your malaria and typhoid things before realizing their importance.Medicine is not about prescribing drug.Have you ever heard of intensive care?..its a place you will see doctors working as if they are dragging the patient soul with God.I pray you will not have a surgical condition(mind you not medical) that will require an emergency major surgery.Anyway,I see envy and jealousy all written on your post.

tlops:
that was punishment not training..

This is standard endurance training for officer cadets
of the Nigeria defence academy. It's no different from
waterboarding that American marines go through. You
won't want ur soldiers dolling out secrets when
captured by enemy troops would u? This may be
horrifying to civilian but we've learnt to live with it. I
wonder why this pix- a classified exercise- got to
public veiwing.

Epositive:
migration


where are the hausa chiefs and kings? yoruba's nko?

this matter should be settled, these guys moving out of ile-ife is the beginning of malice, hatred and cold wars between the two tribes there by breaking the "so-called alliance". This might breeds chaos all over the country in the nearest future



A Word They Say Is Enough For The WISE!!





#positivevibes

..what alliance?..the alliance only exist in the frigment of imagination of the niger deltans and their slaves who also doubled as Fayose and FFK ass lickers.You know failure always has an excuse.

zlantanfan:
To be sincere I have had my reservation and this man owing to the men of God he mentors who are of questionable character and use charms.

I dont need an explanation to wonder what business a man of God has with a stripper, these days true men of God try as much as possible to make conversation with females not to mention stripper very open for all to see.

I don't understand the snapchat and private dealing, to remove religion default defence and apply common sense would give a good picture.
The whole effort spent by suileman to put up defence Rick's of a guilty conscience

Chris Oyakhilome was asscussed by wife but he never spent time defending.

Even if this girl is paid by el rufai at least he found a skeleton in apostle wadrope to take advantage of.
Probably apostle felt what he paid her was enough to deal her, but a time comes when u have a beef with a politician who is used to underground detective and dirty game and can pay anything to expose u.
Only if u have skeleton in your cupboard

At least he is not the first pastor to condemn APC government or whatever.

cocaineaddict:
I will feed and nurture you and your hungry poverty infested generation for life. See illiterate talking about success. Don't let me reduce your 0-0-1 feeding formation to 0-0-0. Ewu

so,you quoted me..lolz.You just confirmed that tribalism and begotry have been blocking your success as I have said.The more you quote me,the more you confirm it....poor bigot and tribalist.people were making sense he was making nonsense.

cocaineaddict:
olamide is a bastard for betraying Phyno. Well I'm not surprised. Yorrober people and betrayal na 5 and 6

...previous comments have being making sense and objective.You just rubbished it with the bigotry and tribalism that have been blocking your success in life ever since.Quoting me means your are confirming my assertion.

Adenuga030:
Interesting president...We pray God helps him fulfill his promises on his first 100 days in office

This prayer was not answered by God.

overhypedsteve:
Lagos is almost 4 times bigger than accra Ghana. While accra Ghana is the capital of Ghana (hence its orderliness). Lagos is just a nigerian state amongst many others. We also have other states whose economy and industrial advancement will make Ghana to look like a nigerian colony.
We have:
port Harcourt.
Calabar.
Kaduna.
Abuja.
Ogun.
Akwa ibom.
Anambra.
Enugu.
This are nigerian states that each boast of gdp's larger than that of the whole of Ghana and they are growing at a fast rate.
So why are we even answering this guy?
What is Ghana's place in world politics? What has Ghana done?
What emerging market organization is Ghana a member to. Nigeria is a member in the following emerging market orgs:
next 11. (next 11 biggest world economies).
Developing 8. Eight fastest developing nations,
MINT: Mexico, Indonesia,nigeria,turkey.

So what is Ghana?

What has Ghana done?


What has a ghanian done?


Mention one ghanian born multinational company?


Do you know how many nigerian banks operate in Ghana and hold their financial institution to ransom.


The president of Ghana does not visit Nigeria like an head of state, he visit nigerian state governors like ex imoke and dickson in their lodge.


Nigeria is not fighting to be the giant of Africa anymore. She is now pushing for her rightful place in world politics.

Keep comparing lagos to your nations capital.

..where did you put Oyo state.Go figure oyo state gdp is higher than that of ogun and anambra.And its the 3rd largest non oil economy in nigeria after kano and lagos.you guys and your hatred for Ibadan.