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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 9:45pm On Nov 27, 2016
kevoh:

Your Uncle says you are in Pensylvannia but it's about 3:40p.m in Pensylvannia and should not yet be night over there instead late afternoon. Are you by chance spending the weekend in Nigeria, maybe that's why you are saying good night! tongue

To think that Atheists arr meant to be smart. This comment here betrays that.

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 9:33pm On Nov 27, 2016
We are done here. Mr Culprit have a good night while it remains good.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 9:11pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Don't blame them, many here obviously don't know how it goes in most school fellowships. They think me being a disciple means I am a member of his church

You still have not answered my question.

cc damogul I asked him the question requested and he hs been unable to respond
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 9:02pm On Nov 27, 2016
@ damogul sir hope you are up to speed.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:52pm On Nov 27, 2016
damogul:
Ban over. Bbfever thanks for holding forth for me and communicating my thoughts. I appreciate it

Sure thing boss. I am ever loyal sir
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:41pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:
HardMirror versus the Apologists and their multiple handles.

Edit:

HardMirror the Liar versus the Apologists!

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:40pm On Nov 27, 2016
bennyann:


You have to be wise dear.

I think Seun is trying to pass a message that he was a pastor.

Since that question shouldn't be meant for you. I haven't seen Seun questioning those that came with facts, especially those that claim they know him. He just ignores them

Smart pants is one size fits all my dear. I understood him clearly.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:37pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:
I just want this silly sideshow to be over.

Pray tell us how you want this "silly sideshow" to be over when you refuse asking the right questions and asking the right people?

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:29pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Keep repeating it since you lack comprehension. Even the other guy is obviously a member of cac yet he also goes thru discipleship under areogun. But you aint just smart enough to understand

Gosh! So you do not see me using colours and impacts to show you where i made comparisons between your comment to seun and your comment from your story and how come you are saying 2 different things about one single matter?

For the 3rd time let me post it again and if you refuse to answer this time then i would know why!

You told seun this

Incase I did not say it before I am saying it now. YES I WAS FORMALLY TRAINED.
As for the quote she is building on, that is not my church. Life Oasis (aka dream center) was only a church I ran to when I was losing my faith. I thought submitting myself there would help me regain my faith in God, but I never found God. I kept seeing the falsehood.
So let's not mix the churches up.


Yet you said this in your original thread

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.





You say you only found falsehood but there you were praising the Pastor for being such a noble examble of love and having such a large heart.

can you reconcile both statements?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:24pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hardmirror answer my question pls
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:23pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:

Do you think it's possible that the random FUTArian who registered to drop that comment simply wasn't aware of this pre-FUTA certificate?

Seun did you bother checking the date the moniker was registered? it was 2012! And not just registered as that seems to be your latest lingo.

I am actually asking the questions you should be asking and it worries me.

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:18pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

I did not run off. I have answered you more than twice. If you still don't understand then answering you a million times would make no difference.
Except you just derive pleasure in mentioning me. Or your soft spot is really soft for me

smh you think you are slippery? Even a 10yr old clearly understands my question and knows you have not answered it. You rather dodged it. So let me post it again here

You told seun this

Incase I did not say it before I am saying it now. YES I WAS FORMALLY TRAINED.
As for the quote she is building on, that is not my church. Life Oasis (aka dream center) was only a church I ran to when I was losing my faith. I thought submitting myself there would help me regain my faith in God, but I never found God. I kept seeing the falsehood.
So let's not mix the churches up.


Yet you said this in your original thread

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.




You say you only found falsehood but there you were praising the Pastor for being such a noble examble of love and having such a large heart.

can you reconcile both statements?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:09pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hardmirror i asked you a question and you dodged it and ran off? Its extremely important that you respond to that question.

We need to reconcile both comments you made and why you made 2 different comments about the same matter.

You told seun this

Incase I did not say it before I am saying it now. YES I WAS FORMALLY TRAINED.
As for the quote she is building on, that is not my church. Life Oasis (aka dream center) was only a church I ran to when I was losing my faith. I thought submitting myself there would help me regain my faith in God, but I never found God. I kept seeing the falsehood.
So let's not mix the churches up.

Yet you said this in your original thread

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.



You say you only found falsehood but there you were praising the Pastor for being such a noble examble of love and having such a large heart.

can you reconcile both statements?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:07pm On Nov 27, 2016
TomHagen:
Good point. But the sheer volume of disparaging comments on this thread would be harmful to Hardmirror if it eventually turns out that he's telling the truth. But it's really strange that no ASFite has come to say anything on any of these threads.

On the contrary it would lift him higher as an epitome of honour and truth. At least an ASF person should have been able to say "We knew Brother Hardmirror o, He was commited and a vessel in Gods hand but he Backslid and ever since we have been praying for him"

However no single one has hinted at that. So lets assume its because the thread has not hit front page yet. So lets exhaust every investigative process by having it pushed to front page
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:03pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hardmirror would you like me to rephrase the question just in case you did not understand it the first time?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 8:01pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:



Come and explain to this sister how lifeoasis embraces everyone and how many disciples are members of other churches.
This guy above just said he belonged to caccf yet he calls areogun his father in the lord meaning he is a disciple too, yet obviously he had another church.
Bbfever is it not clear to you that many of us were like that?

Why are you avoiding answering my question and trying to divert me to another comment. I asked you a direct question using your own words. Answer it please.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:54pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Where are the futarians? Pastor charlse had a lot of people like me who studied and learned from him, but never members. I was there because of pastor charlse, I was never committed to the church, same as baba ogundare, many put themselves under him as disciples, it does not make us members of his church.
So why don't you let me determine which church I belonged to, or are you the one to tell me?

I will pretend as if i did not just read what you wrote but let me link something for you here.

You told seun this

Incase I did not say it before I am saying it now. YES I WAS FORMALLY TRAINED.
As for the quote she is building on, that is not my church. Life Oasis (aka dream center) was only a church I ran to when I was losing my faith. I thought submitting myself there would help me regain my faith in God, but I never found God. I kept seeing the falsehood.
So let's not mix the churches up.


Yet you said this in your original thread

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.



You say you only found falsehood but there you were praising the Pastor for being such a noble examble of love and having such a large heart.

can you reconcile both statements?

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:45pm On Nov 27, 2016
TomHagen:
Alright. But judgement seems to have been passed before examination of all available evidence. The best witnesses would have been ASFites. These ones do not even know Hardmirror. Why should we take them seriously?

Do you want the ASF people to turn up? Why not join us as we beg Seun to push this to the front page so you can see enough of them popping up. I believe the Caccf people who came here saw his story when it was on front page and a link to this thread was posted there so they followed it here which was why we saw them speaking. So why didnt ASF people join the bandwagon as well?

Perhaps by the time this one hits frontpage they would then refute it. I think the people can also be judges dont you think so?

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:40pm On Nov 27, 2016
@hardmirror if you say you were never a member of that church yet you claimed to leave your fellowship to join them and then became a Disciple under the Pastor could you please explain to me what you understand by the word "Disciple"?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:37pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
Bbfever, I think we had a lovely evening. Gotta check other threads out. Take care dear
#softspot

Why are you running when i just got my second wind. Who is a Disciple?
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:35pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hardmirror this is your quote

I became a student and disciple under pastor charlse. The church was behind Chicken republic Futa Junction.

Please who is a Disciple?

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:32pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Incase I did not say it before I am saying it now. YES I WAS FORMALLY TRAINED.
As for the quote she is building on, that is not my church. Life Oasis (aka dream center) was only a church I ran to when I was losing my faith. I thought submitting myself there would help me regain my faith in God, but I never found God. I kept seeing the falsehood.
So let's not mix the churches up.

Again your quote

HardMirror:
Continuation...


I could not just abandon the faith, I had to fight to keep it alive. So from being a leader in my fellowship, I humbled myself and left the fellowship to join the Life Oasis Church (Dream Center) in Akure. The year was 2011.
Then pastor Charlse was the man pastor Olusola areogun sent to establish the church in Akure.

I believed I needed to retrace my step and be a student of the bible to regain my conviction of faith.

I became a student and disciple under pastor charlse. The church was behind Chicken republic Futa Junction.

I remember being taught fundamental things as if I was never a giant in the works of the spirit, but all that did not matter to me. All I wanted was to fall in love with christ all over again. I wanted to be taught like a child again.

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:28pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:

Did HardMirror say he was formally trained as a Pastor? If so, can you urgently give me a link to where he said so? Thanks a million!

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

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HardMirror(m): 2:10pm On Apr 30

Hello,

I am sorry I won't be able to reveal my real name. But every other detail I give are absolutely genuine.

If you were a FUTARIAN from 2007 to 2012 it's possible you know this radical dude typing this. Yes. I was a popular christian on campus because of my activities then.

I had formal Pastoral training from my home church with a certificate. (Don't want to name the church). That was before I got admission into
FUTA. We planted 2 new churches before I gained admission and was able to get the churches members before handing over to more experienced pastors.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:14pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Are you still here? Tot you said good bye not long ago. Guess you have a softspot for me cheesy


Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 7:09pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:

Of what use is your soft spot. I will take the soft spot of ..... Than urs. Online soft spot does no one any good

^^^^^^^^
cc Bennyann

You need to understand that even God made reference to those who would go reprobate.

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:57pm On Nov 27, 2016
TomHagen:
What do you think his motive for inserting such a story was? How would that have changed the complexion of the thread?

If you have a self proclaimed well decorated soldier of war who claimed to have been training for 20hrs a day while his colleagues trained for 5hrs a day and that due to his training he single handedly took out 1000 enemy soldiers and then one day it is discovered he did not do any of the above training regimens he claimed would you then say he did actually take out the 1000 enemy soldiers singlehandly as he claimed to have done?

There is what is known as embellishment when story writing and embellishments are meant to add entertainment, value, acceptance in every story and that was what he did.

Hee was trying to buttress his exessive fasting claim by using the brother who died from same (allegedly) which has been proven as false. That is embellishment.

I want to believe this is not going to be the end regarding the revelations that would be coming because already someone else has stepped up to make his own submittion. Lets all watch and see shall we?

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:47pm On Nov 27, 2016
I am done here. But to you Mr Broken Mirror i say this



Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:39pm On Nov 27, 2016
TomHagen:
In cases like this, the burden of proof rests on the prosecution and one thing they have to prove is motive. I don't see it. The accused is yet to admit any wrongdoing and his recent statements suggest that new evidence has come to light...Reasonable doubt!!

His recent statement suggesting that means he has to produce a counter evidence to tht which has been provided. Only then would reasonable doubt come into play. Evidence is not accepted from the mouth of a suspect without tangible 3rd party proof which was what damogul provided.

Evidence has been provided by the prosecution and he being the defendant now claims he has a counter evidence so let him provide it. However read his response to Bennyann who asked him to provide it quickly so this matter can end. He said "KEEP WAITING" .

I think you are smart enough to connect the dots.

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:34pm On Nov 27, 2016
bennyann:


grin Funny people everywhere.

HardMirror, hope you are OK? This one you're running round the thread and waking up trouble all over.

Please, get your proof quickly so this matter will die down quickly.

I know Hardmirror is just a moniker but don't forget a good name is better than riches.

I'm sure if you decide to change your moniker, you'll regret it a lot cos this moniker of yours mean so much to you.

This is the time to vindicate yourself and not by fooling around and thinking you're fooling everyone here.

I'm just happy to see you lively sha. At least you're hale and hearty and I thank God for that.

But vindicate yourself as quickly as possible.

He has no proof! He is only trying to appear resolute, prim and proper but watch him disappear again like he did yesterday when more proof starts rolling in.
Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:28pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
Mimzy, were the questions you had about God, the bible and your religion genuine? Have you found honest answers to them? Why do you think muslims believe they are right, but a christian can clearly see the faults in islam?
Forget hardmirror, forget nairaland. Be true to yourself

Great Giant in the Works of the Spirit! grin grin grin

Oniro rada rada

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:15pm On Nov 27, 2016
TomHagen:
Reasonable doubt!! I am yet to see how that one singular addition would have changed the complexion of the story? Why do I still have this feeling that Hardmirror did not make up this story?

Thats what others said until more revelations came. The issue of the lie is settled. Yes he lied but now we have been moved to the issue of Certificate or no certificate.

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Religion / Re: Exposing Hardmirror. A Tale Of Two Mirrors by bbfever(f): 6:02pm On Nov 27, 2016
ambassagod:

can't laugh enough......

If that culprit was a giant then the OP damogul was his David

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