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Religion / Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 9:43am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Good one dear.

Sometimes you have to come down to their level to explain things to them for easy understanding.

Do you know even scientists believe 'everyone do not see things the same way'

Very true but when one comes down to their level to explain to them they often still insist that you go up to your level and explain it from there when they cannot even understand it from your level thereby making us go round and round in circles.

Yes science has said that eveb physically our perceptions depend on our field of view but I am sure they would conveniently brush that off and say since we believe in the spiritual and they dont then the spiritual we know has no field of view because it does not exist.

Such delusion is beyond understanding.
Religion / Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 9:20am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Very well then. I can understand the one who doesn't believe because he did not see.

But the one who couldn't see the object can't conclude the other that said he saw did not see.

The fact that you didn't see doesn't mean there was no evidence of an object. And this was due to your perception limit.

In other words, our perceptions are individually based.

So I think it's OK when I say they can't go beyond what their own eyes can see .


Blessed are they who though have not seen..yet believe.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.

Thid is why we are so different from Atheists. Our perceptions differ.

Theists have a higher perception while Atheists have a lower one but assume they have the higher one through logic.

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Religion / Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 8:54am On Nov 11, 2016
urheme:
the pastor continued..... every evil deposit in your system...... Holy spirit where is that person......rayaa ya yaa...yaa... shout Fireeeeeeee"

beloved.....

power came on me.... nobody touched me.....it swept me off my feet and wiped me on the hard floor... i had unknowingly scattered all the sit and the people around me took off.

i began to see many people hold me down...a lot actually happened in that service that day.....unexplainable..... i was practically put in to coma at the alter and i did not know when that service ended....... and so i recovered from the alter where i found my self and went straight to my friend..... a dunamis sister....and told her thus

"all my body dey pain me.. ibe like them beat me for una church"

she replied:
"na who beat you"

i said:
"plenty people.... i just dey see plenty plenty hand for all my body......abeg i dey go house"

beloved as at the time i left my friend's house i have not fully recovered...my self.

this is the beginning of the journey. cry cry cry cry





will see you later.


Bro come and finish this story please.

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Religion / Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 8:39am On Nov 11, 2016
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Your examples regarding delusion are always warped in a myopic manner.

You forget that your bank could have hacking restrictions that block out questionable funds which are against their policy.

This is exactly how the natural and spiritual are. The natural cannot fathom the spiritual because it has natural restrictions against that so no matter what the spiritual does the natural cannot percieve it which was why the Bible says

A carnal mind is enmity with God...It cannot receive of God neither can it know it.

What lifts this natural restriction is called Faith for without it you cannot receive or give to God.

If you think Theists are delusional for leaning towards the spiritual even when human then ask yourself how atheists are viewed for holding firmly solely to the natural and still claim to be openminded.

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Religion / Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 7:59am On Nov 11, 2016
pussyphilia:
You can become an "atheigelist" like seun and I grin

Win a soul for atheism and you shall be abundantly blessed.


Abundantly blessed? Show me where it is written that there is a blessing for Atheistic propagation or to those who propagate it.
Religion / Part 2 Of My Survey by bbfever(f): 6:17am On Oct 11, 2016
A tenet of Islam is that both Mohammed and Jesus of Nazareth were both Muslims. Islam says both were prophets sent by Allah. If this were true, then it is mandatory that these two great prophets must coincide exactly in all points and never contradict each other. Did not the same Allah send both of them? Then, aren't even the smallest of contradictions between the two, very big red flags? And there are a great many, which you will see below. Christianity and Islam are necessarily forever diametrically opposed to one another, just as evil and good are. Oral confession of the deity of Jesus Christ is prerequisite to becoming a Christian (Romans 10:9-10). To a Muslim, this is blasphemy. To a Christian it is blasphemy to not attribute divinity to Jesus the Christ. The New Testament could not be clearer on this subject. The heart, core and soul of Christianity is allegiance to Jesus Christ as God, Lord, and Savior! Were Jesus Christ who the Muslim Qur'an who it makes him out to be, then Christianity would be blasphemous and baseless.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9-10)


Surah 5:68 - Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law (Torah), the Gospel (Injeel), and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord."

Surah 29:46 Muslims are told by Allah, not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one;

Islam says that Jesus did not die. So, again --Islam has proven to be false; because Muhammad claimed the Gospel is true, and all 4 Gospels (Injil) testify that Jesus died and rose from the dead. God does have a begotten Son (not made, but one with the Father), which Islam denies. The Jewish Torah / Taurat (Tawrat) clearly indicated this over 1000 years before Muhammad and Islam. In addition their are collateral 1st century sources that testify that Jesus was put to death. In the "Annals" written by Roman historian Tacitus, in Book XV, Chapter 44 we read "Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius." Roman historian Josephus also wrote about the death and Resurrection of Jesus. Even Satan says that Jesus died on the cross. Also, the Roman Historian Seutonius wrote in his work "Life of the Emperor Claudius" the following about Christians: "and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws." The Roman historian Pliny wrote about Jesus' death in Book X of his Epistles. Julius Africanus, quoting Thallus another Roman historian, who wrote in about 52 A.D. about the miraculas happenings the day the Son of God was killed. He wrote: "On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down". Like Muhammad, Satan also cringes in fear at the sight of the cross.
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 8:42pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 8:30pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 8:28pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky:

You dey mind the craze man? He wants to 'scam' us into apologising when he can't do nada to deliver the money! Typical fraudster behaviour cheesy

Honestly, I promise I will apologise 1,000,000 times if bbfever can recover the money - let him do that first.


Your promises mean zilch to me because your character is questionable
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 8:17pm On Feb 18, 2013
justwise:

She will, she can only run but can not hide, she will definitely pay back.

This is the delegation you have received, Help us go collect the money
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 8:16pm On Feb 18, 2013
jethro2: @ bbfever. Believe me the apology will come in millions fold if you can really get the money back to the owners and in good time too. Cause then you would have done a very good job. But demanding for apology now when the money is still in the air will amount to rubbying salt upon injury. Put yourself in aieromon shoe. What happens to customer are always right?

Jethro my man i dey feel you o but you know say these guys just dey run their mouth like diarrhea and them need imodium to stop am. Me i go first take apology before i do the hard work of mediating abi you think say to mediate over this kind matter go easy with all these sharks around. My apology first o and me i go try yarn with wunmi as best i fit and i believe say she go hear my own
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 8:13pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 8:09pm On Feb 18, 2013
Sky-walker:


lol. Told you your mugshot will soon be on Nairaland. Fool


I see you are on payroll. Mugshot! Ha! Abeg, please, biko, jo, paste the Muggy make me self enjoy my own mugshot small. See where your mind dey? starwars. You for add Luke to your id and complete it to Luke skywalker
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 8:07pm On Feb 18, 2013
surveyProf: Who is holding dis thread to ransom

Op
Dat BB man is a scammer, I hv all his details, his home address in Ajah, do not listen to him!!!


They should listen to you abi? Messiah Survey. They have listened to you for months.... tell your people the truth. tell them you have nothing to offer and just brainwashing them into thinking you can solve this matter. Na you be the chief con. You are feeding off peoples self esteem. Con man extraordinaire.
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 8:04pm On Feb 18, 2013
surveyProf: Who is holding dis thread to ransom

Op
Dat BB man is a scammer, I hv all his details, his home address in Ajah, do not listen to him!!!

na ya papa be Scammer abi dont you know thast i know you are a thief? Every Hacker is a thief. Abi you no be hacker? talk now say you be white witch and not black witch. Say your hacking is used for good. werepe dey your head
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 8:01pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:57pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky:

Your approach is that of a scammer - so the title fits - now run along and go look for others willing to listen to your bunkum. No one will apologise to you - if you can't handle it, go and jump off a bridge.

No one asked you to mediate - since you claim to know Wunmi, pay on her behalf and she will refund you. If you are not interested, F**K off.

did anybody ask you to mediate yourself? if you cant stand me and my demands take carbon paper and block your screen. scum of the earth
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:54pm On Feb 18, 2013
idupaul: @ BBfever .. Nobody is going to apologize to ur fraudulent being .. @ Aigbe I beg U to ignore this toad , he has started the next stage of the scam where he will tell U to send him recharge card and pay his internet bouquet so he can get intouch with his Principal ... And to U BBfever pls refrain from insulting me on this thread or I will end ur fraud career by placing a citizens caveat emptor and disclaimer with ur tortoise pic on prominent news paper in Nigeria..


ABEG SEND ME YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER MAKE I SEND YOU THE MONEY FOR THE ADVERT IN ADVANCE. DORK.
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:52pm On Feb 18, 2013
Boss13: Can we ignore bbfever and focus on wunmi Allen. When is she going to pay back the money?

bbfever I assume you are a matured person. Please end this tactics of yours.If our methodology is crude and below standard, that should be left to us. However, I have seen it worked before and I have no doubt that it would work again. You can advise wunmi to pay up the debt as quick as possible.

I believe this thread owes you no explanation and you the same. Sheathe your sword and focus on relevant things.

This thread owes me no explanations right? FX right here for no reason placed me on a list of scammers simply because i tried to mediate so we could get Aigbe refunded. Let me label you a thief and a scammer and watch you try it out for size. My matured mind needs an apology for reference reasons. But like i said if you want me onboard so as to end your 10 month ordeal it would only cost you 3 words. 'I AM SORRY'.
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 7:49pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:42pm On Feb 18, 2013
debosky:

So despite forming 'big man' you want to create further pre-conditions for aigbe to get his money back? More insults will be poured on your head for this rubbish you are saying.

Who the F**K are you to demand an apology? Alakori ni bobo yi sha. undecided



Like I said, if you want to introduce yourself as yet another middle man, demanding apologies to help, you are no better than a common criminal.



So we need to introduce mods before she will pay the money she has illegally withheld for 10 months? Animal in human skin.

Or stick with Survey student and FX and hope for a result as you have been hoping for 10months now under their super investigative skills.


10 months and counting. Pride is a deep smear in every soul that must be exorcised. A simple I am sorry would go a long way right now. I am not upset though over all the name calling but for branding me because i was being objective and a forward thinker and also labeling me as an accomplice i deserve an apology. This has nothing to do with Aigbe because his matter is different. Aigbe was not the one called names such as scammer and thief and all that was he? i was called those names because i was trying to sort out his matter so HE, AIGBE must apologize to me first now that he knows i am not an accomplice and has asked me to mediate and i will respond as i have spoken
Business / Re: Onibara Mi Ti A Npe Ni Aigbe by bbfever(f): 7:37pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:33pm On Feb 18, 2013
idupaul: This bbfever is a hardened criminal ... The Brainiac of the ShopClue Cartel

aieromon: still think i dont need an apology? Just get off your high horse and say 2 simple words 'I'm sorry' and i will help out. Courtesy begets courtesy. Now I am not just shopclue but also the brains behind an imaginary cartel. see idupaul mumu just dey show anyhow. Guy try hide the mumu small abeg
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 7:26pm On Feb 18, 2013
aieromon:

I see where this is going. Thanks for visiting this thread and not answering the question.

Thank you too for taking time out to talk to me and seek a way forward. How am i supposed to answer your question when you sat back and watched or rather read your minions calling me names and branding me as wunmis accomplice. First things first, an apology is needed by me from your people or by yourself on their behalf and i will do all i can to get you a refund. Anything short of this pls revert to I's advice on this forum which is posted here

(To me the solution †☺ this impasse Ȋ̝̊̅§ straightforward aπϑ plain: give her the details of a respected MOD on Nairaland who will ensure that she gives a timeline for the payment of aℓℓ debts! And the MOD will ensure that the payment is done or if not should say so! Then the alleged scammer should make sure she meets the timeline! Shikena! Then we can open a new thread listing the said sums owed aπϑ how aπϑ when the payment was done!)

Or stick with Survey student and FX and hope for a result as you have been hoping for 10months now under their super investigative skills.
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 6:56pm On Feb 18, 2013
aieromon: @bbfever

You still haven't answered my question. You discussed with her and she says my money is on the high sea. You also want this to end.

As a friend,are you willing to refund the money on her behalf?

first of all, as a friend i would want to get to the bottom of this as all i have done so far was chat with her which limits expression. I would want to speak with her over the phone and wrap this up. Friendship is in degrees but to me my acquaintances are also treated as friends and as such value is added to relationship which is why i know she respects me and listens to me. I want this to end for the sake of peace and rationalism but i wonder why you are now talking to me about all this. Are'nt Surveyprof and FX meant to deliver for you? I thought everyone here called me an accomplice.

If you want me to deliver for you then ask your name calling minions to apologize to me first and then we can talk
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 6:38pm On Feb 18, 2013
aieromon:

Hi Mr Sam,

I can see you've taken a lot of time to show Wunmi Allen's innocence in all this. You must be the proverbial "a friend in need is a friend indeed".

I can see my money has been on the "high sea" for the past ten months. No problem. My issue with you is this:- if truly you want all this to come to an end,what will it cost you to refund the money on behalf of your friend? I didn't ask for a mini van to the best of my knowledge. Pay this small money from your large purse and trust her to give you the van. At least I know that's what I will do for my friend. Since you know how to communicate with her better than the rest of us, this is the suggestion I would recommend you consider.

I would like a reply to this suggestion here if you don't mind.

Of course i would gladly respond smiley . First of i would like to thank you for finally posting something although it wasnt what i expected. I never tried to show wunmis innocence because as it stands she is an accused. All i tried and am still trying to do is get all these name calling folks to quit it and move on to the main issue about your refund. I do believe i can get through to her because i have done it before. But you all need to chill out. IO believe you have spoken with her on the phone before and if you paid attention when talking to her you would easily be able to know how to relate with her because she is a tough one (in a good way) smiley . I dont label people until i am totally convinced about their character. So far she has done nothing to me to warrant i take a stand with you against her and you have done nothing to me to make me take a stand with wunmi against you. I want what everyone wants. You refund but towing a more intelligent line.
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 6:20pm On Feb 18, 2013
i.:
To me the solution †☺ this impasse Ȋ̝̊̅§ straightforward aπϑ plain: give her the details of a respected MOD on Nairaland who will ensure that she gives a timeline for the payment of aℓℓ debts! And the MOD will ensure that the payment is done or if not should say so! Then the alleged scammer should make sure she meets the timeline! Shikena! Then we can open a new thread listing the said sums owed aπϑ how aπϑ when the payment was done!

Bros kudos to you and a hearty hug from me. Chai intelligence talking and well seconded by me. Obviously you are into litigation because you have a very analytical mind. Survey student you done hear? Everyone else especially biolabee this is how to proffer a solution and not pay the money! pay the money!
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 5:42pm On Feb 18, 2013
biolabee:
you must be a fuktard for that statement, is there any way to refund someone his money than actually paying back the money?



Now i know the depth of your intelligence. as of now consider yourself **IGNORED**. Dude i asked you an elementary question and you cannot answer. How can this be achieved? For quite a good while now Survey student and FX have failed to make any headway and you cannot help them by making any input besides pay the money! pay the money! Chai money don waste for school
Business / Re: .::. Scam Alert : Omowunmi Allen And The Pre-order Mess .::. by bbfever(f): 5:38pm On Feb 18, 2013
Sky-walker:


Its their job to derail the thread. So far they are succeeding.Its best we ignore them till we get update on the Wunmi Allen's case. The heat is already on her.

update from whom? your crack team of investigators? What a bunch of jokers.

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