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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by femzysticks(m): 7:39am On Nov 11, 2016
to everyone who does not believe in God the Father and Jesus the Son represented in this forum and the world at large...

on the last day.
when the trumpet shall sound.

it will be clear..

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bennyann: 7:40am On Nov 11, 2016
pussyphilia:


Atheigelists of course grin grin

Please stop pulling my legs now. I don't wanna fall for it anymore. grin

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by hesupamo: 7:47am On Nov 11, 2016
femzysticks:
to everyone who does not believe in God the Father and Jesus the Son represented in this forum and the world at large...

on the last day.
when the trumpet shall sound.

it will be clear..

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by pussyphilia(m): 7:48am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Please stop pulling my legs now. I don't wanna fall for it anymore. grin
You can become an "atheigelist" like seun and I grin

Win a soul for atheism and you shall be abundantly blessed.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by ShaqFu: 7:52am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


That should be it, since they are limited only to the material world. I mean they can't go beyond what their own eyes can see.
And how do you explain what only your own eyes can see to them?
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Pastafarian: 7:56am On Nov 11, 2016
pussyphilia:
You can become an "atheigelist" like seun and I grin

Win a soul for atheism and you shall be abundantly blessed.

you can join my faith
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 7:59am On Nov 11, 2016
pussyphilia:
You can become an "atheigelist" like seun and I grin

Win a soul for atheism and you shall be abundantly blessed.


Abundantly blessed? Show me where it is written that there is a blessing for Atheistic propagation or to those who propagate it.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bennyann: 8:09am On Nov 11, 2016
ShaqFu:
And how do you explain what only your own eyes can see to them?

Hold on! We're still in the physical realm here. Let me use a simple realistic scenario by asking this.

Haven't you experienced where someone held your hands trying to make you see what he was seeing and yet you couldn't even though you were on the same position with the person, till that object passes by? Or better still, you were the one trying to make the other person see what you were seeing and the person couldn't see it?

Will you then conclude that the object wasn't there because you couldn't see what the person was trying to show you or the person didn't see what you were trying to show him.?

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by ShaqFu: 8:13am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Hold on! We're still in the physical realm here. Let me use a simple realistic scenario by asking this.

Haven't you experienced where someone held your hands trying to make you see what he was seeing and yet you couldn't even though you were on the same position with the person, till that object passes by? Or better still, you were the one trying to make the other person see what you were seeing and the person couldn't see it?
Of course, but even if I missed what that person is trying to show me, I still see it in due time.

So, nothing is amiss.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bennyann: 8:17am On Nov 11, 2016
ShaqFu:
Of course, but even if I missed what that person is trying to show me, I still see it in due time.

So, nothing is amiss.

But at that particular time you didn't see it, Will you then conclude that the object wasn't there because you couldn't see what the person was trying to show you?

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by akintom(m): 8:26am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


You see yourself, you've concluded without research not to talk of evidence.

Anyways, when I say I've noticed atheists are not free minded, this was what I meant:

Atheists are not willing to accept someone else’s beliefs, way of life etc without criticizing them, even if they disagree with them.

Will you believe me, if i come to you and say: bennyann, i hacked your bank account yesterday, and transferred 100k into my bank account, after the hack.

Would you believe me? When:

* you didn't receive alert to that effect?
* you checked your account balance and it showed your known balance?
* you even went to your account officer, and he confirmed that your account is intact?

After all these your confirmatory checks, albeit to the contrar, i still insist on my claim that i hacked into your bank account.

That's exactly what you religious folks do. You make claims against peoples lives, without evidence. And when we even give you the benefit of the doubt, to check for you, after presenting you with the contrary evidence, you folks still insist on it.

What other definition of Delusion is better?


If you need evidence, please go back and read through all the pages of this thread starting from the first page or you may visit other related threads cos I feel so lazy to do that for you right now.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by ShaqFu: 8:31am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


But at that particular time you didn't see it, Will you then conclude that the object wasn't there because you couldn't see what the person was trying to show you?
Of course. "Seeing is believing" is it not.

The fact that I missed seeing the object mean the object isn't there, why should I take the other person's word for it?

It's now left for me to see the object the person's trying to show me. Until I do, the object isn't there.

I believe there's a fallacy of such a thing.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 8:39am On Nov 11, 2016
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Your examples regarding delusion are always warped in a myopic manner.

You forget that your bank could have hacking restrictions that block out questionable funds which are against their policy.

This is exactly how the natural and spiritual are. The natural cannot fathom the spiritual because it has natural restrictions against that so no matter what the spiritual does the natural cannot percieve it which was why the Bible says

A carnal mind is enmity with God...It cannot receive of God neither can it know it.

What lifts this natural restriction is called Faith for without it you cannot receive or give to God.

If you think Theists are delusional for leaning towards the spiritual even when human then ask yourself how atheists are viewed for holding firmly solely to the natural and still claim to be openminded.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 8:54am On Nov 11, 2016
urheme:
the pastor continued..... every evil deposit in your system...... Holy spirit where is that person......rayaa ya yaa...yaa... shout Fireeeeeeee"

beloved.....

power came on me.... nobody touched me.....it swept me off my feet and wiped me on the hard floor... i had unknowingly scattered all the sit and the people around me took off.

i began to see many people hold me down...a lot actually happened in that service that day.....unexplainable..... i was practically put in to coma at the alter and i did not know when that service ended....... and so i recovered from the alter where i found my self and went straight to my friend..... a dunamis sister....and told her thus

"all my body dey pain me.. ibe like them beat me for una church"

she replied:
"na who beat you"

i said:
"plenty people.... i just dey see plenty plenty hand for all my body......abeg i dey go house"

beloved as at the time i left my friend's house i have not fully recovered...my self.

this is the beginning of the journey. cry cry cry cry





will see you later.


Bro come and finish this story please.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bennyann: 9:16am On Nov 11, 2016
ShaqFu:
Of course. "Seeing is believing" is it not.

The fact that I missed seeing the object mean the object isn't there, why should I take the other person's word for it?

It's now left for me to see the object the person's trying to show me. Until I do, the object isn't there.

I believe there's a fallacy of such a thing.

Very well then. I can understand the one who doesn't believe because he did not see.

But the one who couldn't see the object can't conclude the other that said he saw did not see.

The fact that you didn't see doesn't mean there was no evidence of an object. And this was due to your perception limit.

In other words, our perceptions are individually based.

So I think it's OK when I say they can't go beyond what their own eyes can see .

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 9:20am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Very well then. I can understand the one who doesn't believe because he did not see.

But the one who couldn't see the object can't conclude the other that said he saw did not see.

The fact that you didn't see doesn't mean there was no evidence of an object. And this was due to your perception limit.

In other words, our perceptions are individually based.

So I think it's OK when I say they can't go beyond what their own eyes can see .


Blessed are they who though have not seen..yet believe.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.

Thid is why we are so different from Atheists. Our perceptions differ.

Theists have a higher perception while Atheists have a lower one but assume they have the higher one through logic.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bennyann: 9:40am On Nov 11, 2016
bbfever:



Blessed are they who though have not seen..yet believe.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.

Thid is why we are so different from Atheists. Our perceptions differ.

Theists have a higher perception while Atheists have a lower one but assume they have the higher one through logic.

Good one dear.

Sometimes you have to come down to their level to explain things to them for easy understanding.

Do you know even scientists believe 'everyone do not see things the same way'

They really need to borrow the eyes of the others who see what they can't see.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 9:43am On Nov 11, 2016
bennyann:


Good one dear.

Sometimes you have to come down to their level to explain things to them for easy understanding.

Do you know even scientists believe 'everyone do not see things the same way'

Very true but when one comes down to their level to explain to them they often still insist that you go up to your level and explain it from there when they cannot even understand it from your level thereby making us go round and round in circles.

Yes science has said that eveb physically our perceptions depend on our field of view but I am sure they would conveniently brush that off and say since we believe in the spiritual and they dont then the spiritual we know has no field of view because it does not exist.

Such delusion is beyond understanding.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Anas09: 9:51am On Nov 11, 2016
felixomor:


Eiya, i feel ur pain.

Redundant atheist pastor.
Your retirement is near.
grin
grin grin grin Redundant Atheist pastor on retirement list.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Anas09: 10:09am On Nov 11, 2016
Tonyosas101:
It was fun reading comments and arguments

Most of us are who we are today because of our background, parents and teachers etc...
You don't expect a Muslim girl who grew up in the mosque to be a Christian and vice versa.
But its very possible if she strives for other knowledge outside mosque, she might even be converted after getting her facts

Most of us grew up believing they are nine planets and the mistakes is still on-going (I saw it on my little cousin's textbook early this year)...I tried to convince him that they are eight planets with wikipedia site but he was ridiculed in class by his gullible classmates and even his teacher

Let's try to think outside the box
grin
I have seen Muslim girls who were raised in the Mosque become Christians. I have haboured one in my house because of persecution from her family. Hawa, from Bornu state. Her father is a Chief of the Muslim community in the area they live.

She was invited to Winners Chapel where she gave her life to Christ, and against all odds resisted to marry an old man they presented her to as a third wife.

She left the house to stay with a friend, her father went there and scattered the place, threaten to harm the girl who squatted his daughter, she was asked out of the house, not having anywhere to go, she started sleeping in the Church, thats how i saw her and took her home.

Say what you know and not what u dont. I know many Christian girls who have met and married muslim men.
So pulizzzzzzzz.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Scholar8200(m): 10:11am On Nov 11, 2016
But where is urheme?
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Pastafarian: 10:17am On Nov 11, 2016
Anas09:

I have seen Muslim girls who were raised in the Mosque become Christians. I have haboured one in my house because of persecution from her family. Hawa, from Bornu state. Her father is a Chief of the Muslim community in the area they live.

She was invited to Winners Chapel where she gave her life to Christ, and against all odds resisted to marry an old man they presented her to as a third wife.

She left the house to stay with a friend, her father went there and scattered the place, threaten to harm the girl who squatted his daughter, she was asked out of the house, not having anywhere to go, she started sleeping in the Church, thats how i saw her and took her home.

Say what you know and not what u dont. I know many Christian girls who have met and married muslim men.
So pulizzzzzzzz.

how does this long post of yours contradict his points? shocked

you either didn't see or ignored the part where he said

Tonyosas101:

But its very possible if she strives for other knowledge outside mosque, she might even be converted after getting her facts

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Anas09: 10:20am On Nov 11, 2016
bbfever:



Bro come and finish this story please.
I tire for Urheme sef oo grin
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Anas09: 10:25am On Nov 11, 2016
Pastafarian:


how does this long post of yours contradict his points? shocked

you either didn't see or ignored the part where he said

And am sure you didnt see the part i said she was invited to Winners Chapel. That to you is not seeking knowledge outside the Mosque? What do you say to the Christian girls who marry muslim men, which knowledge did they sort to be converted to Islam?

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Pastafarian: 10:28am On Nov 11, 2016
Anas09:

And am sure you didnt see the part i said she was invited to Winners Chapel. That to you is not seeking knowledge outside the Mosque?

this agrees with his point which I reiterated, or is there something I'm missing?

What do you say to the Christian girls who marry muslim men, which knowledge did they sort to be converted to Islam?

there's a reason they were even open minded enough to marry a Muslim
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Anas09: 11:01am On Nov 11, 2016
Pastafarian:


you're agreeing with me, or is there something I'm missing?



there's a reason they were even open minded enough to marry a Muslim
Now you agree that religious people are open minded?

I for one almost became a New Age Believer because i kept an open mind. It is still the open mind you guys accuse us of not keeping.
I guess when an atheist says "Keep an open mind", he means do not believe God exists.

Keeping an open mind to you is, allow doubt to sit firmly in you, boubt everything that you can't see and can't make sense of. If you dont doubt you are diluded.
I wonder why you dont doubt your brian.


Guy, i keep and open mind, you should try doing the same. .

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Pastafarian: 11:09am On Nov 11, 2016
Anas09:

Now you agree that religious people are open minded?

I for one almost became a New Age Believer because i kept an open mind. It is still the open mind you guys accuse us of not keeping.
I guess when an atheist says "Keep an open mind", he means do not believe God exists.

Keeping an open mind to you is, allow doubt to sit firmly in you, boubt everything that you can't see and can't make sense of. If you dont doubt you are diluded.
I wonder why you dont doubt your brian.


Guy, i keep and open mind, you should try doing the same. .

how does this relate to the discussion at hand?

that guy said

But its very possible if she strives for other knowledge outside mosque, she might even be converted after getting her facts

that's the point I'm reiterating here

"if she strives"

that doesn't mean.....

Now you agree that religious people are open minded?
which kain dishonest generalisation and strawman be dis na? shocked

that a few religious people are open minded enough to marry from other religion, open minded enough to give another religion a try doesn't make it true of all


to prove this, answer this question

"CAN YOU MARRY A MUSLIM"?

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Tonyosas101(m): 11:52am On Nov 11, 2016
Pastafarian:

how does this long post of yours contradict his points? shocked
you either didn't see or ignored the part where he said
Thanks a lot, I don't need to quote her again

Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by Pastafarian: 11:57am On Nov 11, 2016
Tonyosas101:

Thanks a lot, I don't need to quote her again

sometimes one can't help but question the reading and comprehending abilities of some people
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by urheme: 2:46pm On Nov 11, 2016
Seun:
Did this Dunamis sister, who is your friend, not attend the same church you attended? How come she didn't know about what happened to you?

They have 5 services on sundays......she attended the last service.
Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by urheme: 3:27pm On Nov 11, 2016
So i gegenly went to my house to try and get some sleep but i could not sleep......... i was thinking and planning how i am going to setup and deal with the pastor and his followers who beat me up and put me into a temporary coma....then my friendcame back from church with another story.....she was like: " no body beat you oooo... it was deliverance that took place...... i said what... what kind of deliverance is that...... with all these pains i am feeling....... i told her to get lost....and i bang my door.

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Re: An Atheist Encountered Powers In Dunamis; There Is God Ooooo by bbfever(f): 3:30pm On Nov 11, 2016
urheme:
So i gegenly went to my house to try and get some sleep but i could not sleep......... i was thinking and planning how i am going to setup and deal with the pastor and his followers who beat me up and put me into a temporary basis my friendcame back from church with another story.....she was like: " no body beat you oooo... it was deliverance that took place...... i said what... what kind of deliverance is that...... with all these pains i am feeling....... i told her to get lost....and i bang my door.


Continue my brother.

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