Me I still dey take ma chill pill o

Una welcome2join me. More loading soon. Location is 38...catch me if u can.

CHESTER48:
funny people simple as ABC. Whatsapp won't work offer 31 Dec no matter what. Do you think they dont know that people will install android whatsapp. Hmm. That whatsapp doesn't support some things such as sending files. And I doubt they will support latest video calling. Even if it does. They could have specified that the Android whatsapp will still be working for them. Simple. After 31 Dec if u use whatsapp on bb10 whatsapp server will detect it and block you

Simple as ABC, it has been extended till June. And before you hit the keyboard, posting what you think you know, why don't you verify first? If done according to the instructions, it would send files. Video calling is a recently introduced feature, so yes for now, probably might not work. I am yet to find the time to look into it.

Really? Whatsapp server would detect and block? And you got this from where? Doing an internship with whatsapp?

ojikutu65:
i dnt hv ur no for watsapp, 08071884144 abeg message me
i need to find alternative to my wasapp too.

It's on my signature...

dragnet:

I seem to prefer to be inside the wall these days, life inside d wall na just u urself & u.

Ok, I go join you inside the wall soon then.

Yomieluv:
do you think I need to be on any list to make my sales?

I hardly sell on Nairaland, cos selling in Nairaland is too poor..


All the bitcoin I buy,do you think I eat them,I only come to Nairaland to buy cheap.


Oga,state the criteria for the list..if you don't have a good criteria, abeg swerve.

Forming unnecessary cartel.

And again, the point completely eludes you!

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting, get understanding...

Wisdom and foolery are easily discernible

dragnet:
This section has four moderators as at my check few minutes ago:

dominique , naijacutee , puskin , FOD . abi Seun give us holiday wey I no know ni? I believe you guys should look into these type of matters that seem to crop up regularly and have a framework to mediate and douse the tension in a way that it won't deteriorate further because people on the sidelines usually aggravate these issues more with their comments and some people use it as avenues to score points from oppositions.

@bdavis, just leave the squad for now jare, if it wasn't Nigeria then we may have a headway this one wey law enforcements sef dey need settlement, people here aren't always ready to be selfless. I keep saying I've been a victim like thrice (you can say I'm just like tooltip), I got my refunds from most but of course some hands got stained.

Still loving this version. I go send you a pm...Abeg no enter wall when you see am biko

oxsam88:


Honestly this is not the first time I received money as much as that. I've received higher amounts. As long as you didn't to go the bank to withdraw cash... you are fine. The account is a business account not personal and my business is registered legally. He offered to sell $100k, we had an agreement as usual. I'm not expecting the a cash deposit (I'm not an idiot), sometimes, when he can deposit several amounts daily. There wouldn't be any problem as long as these funds are CLEAN

The worst thing you can do in the USA is to constantly receive cash deposits into a business account. You do that, it's perceived as you are trying to cover your trail (hide the source of funds). Simply put: you are washing money aka money laundering.

Singapore1:


Me and a nairalander were doing one business together which involve PayPal... Then PayPal limited my account, I paid him from my pocket.. Up till now he didn't know PayPal don limit my account ( I think he later knew after few weeks)

This is the way it's supposed to be. Seems integrity and credibility is not a word some people on this thread know anything about.

@ oxsam88:

Your account was limited so you can't pay:

Now for the sake of argument, let's assume the above statement is true and your account really is limited with tooltip's money tied in there. Here is where that argument assumption takes us:

Scenario 1:

Since and during the limitation, you have posted $20k, $25k and $35k btc. Meaning you actually do have a means of paying him because you have 'sold' $80k worth of btc. Now even @460/btc, that's 36.8m, yet you find it difficult to pay up his 7.5m balance?

Scenario 2:
You actually haven't sold any btc, but you did collect $20k from tooltip and your first post of available btc since the limitation is $20k worth of btc...invariably the money tooltip supplied. So you posted it, no one bought and you decided to add an extra $5k to the stash, making $25k worth of btc, still no one bought then you added an extra $10k to the stash. So assuming the 1st $20k wasn't tooltip's money, you don use $15k of his money to replenish your btc wallet. Why couldn't you have refunded it as you initially suggested, making you indebted only to the tune of 750k naira? Your argument that you can't make multiple payments doesn't seem to hold water since you did make multiple payments to buy those bitcoins anyways.

Truth is: when you are truly big...there are things you just don't do.

There is a difference between big and perceived big.

Truly the love of money is the root of all evil.

Me, I want to be big and not perceived (either by myself of the world@large) as being big.

@ dragnet: abeg that squad...let me know when it's in play.

omotisa:


My oga, the advice is rather risky. She wants 470/S and with the rapidly dwindling value of bitcoin, she might end up taking a serious haircut by the time she is ready to flip the bitcoin. All the best Udiboy.

Shebi na yankee she dey? In 30mins or say 1.5hrs max, she has her bitcoin, she'll still get 470 here and better margins if she shine her eye well

Udiboy:
I have 1000$ dollars up for exchange.
I have 1000$ for sale. I transfer to your US account and you transfer naira to my naira account ecobank

Oga, how many times you don post this thing? Biko make I epp you out: convert am to bitcoin and sell am sharp sharp!

oxsam88:


Sho! Na fight? You should have talk straight up with me about this when it happened. I no know say I get enemy here. Sh** happens in business once a while (which you might try solving but wouldn't work), that does not mean I'm a scammer (Maybe that na your own definition of scam). I don't scam and will never. If you have any issue, come up to me and sort it out. Not contacting me when you got to Nigeria didn't kill me but I might have lost a potential client. I can't win all the time (some circumstances might arise beyond your capabilities to show how limited humans are) but I try my best to be reliable.

Cc: tooltip

Opeyemi5:
$2000 amazon gift card for sale
$100 denominations
With receipt

Buzz me on whatsapp please.

dojot:
b Davis please can also post screen shots of the above process

Ok, would try...coming soon

Ok, late to the party, but let me just chip in ma 2cents.

Now personaly, I don't see how paid escrow would do any better than free escrow; I know some have argued the point that if one is getting something from it, one is likely to make out more time since one is getting paid.

Now here is where that argument falls to pieces:

Unless the escrow is jobless and not earning a living, and unless escrow payment is going to be say like $50-$100 per service, it's really going to be hard to pay an escrow what would be worthwhile for him/her to dedicate more time to the escrow business at the detriment of his/her own hustle.

Another point raised by singapore01, bookiemart01 and I think dragnet 2.0 (that guy is seriously making a whole lotta sense I swear): once payment comes in, people would start taking liberties.

Now for those pointing out that some people turn down escrow, it's usually cos:

1). They are in class studying or preparing for exams (Tabbaz comes to mind)

2). They are guarding jealously their transfer limits (ladyf and justi4jesu comes to mind) this is to be expected and can not be faulted no matter how much you want to put it under a microscope.

Now I know for a fact that when ladyf turns down an escrow or when tabbaz does so, they would usually refer you to another member of the escrow team (they have done so, so many times on the pages of this thread) and I have had cause to step in once or twice for both parties. That's how we've been able to make this work thus far.

Now those of us doing the escrow service, we are not super humans, which means mistakes can happen e.g. if you escrow a paypal payment that say 2, 3 months down the line gets a charge back or you escrow a cash deposit that goes bad days or weeks after the transaction is complete...now when escrow becomes paid, and such a scenario happens, you have become liable, so please do pray tell, which kind fees dem go pay wey go cover such liabilities?

As for me, my conditions are simple and basic:

1). I don't do sms alerts, so anyone who uses my services are free from sms charges, but una go pay bank charges if I have to do inter-bank transfer (for gtb, it's 105naira

2). If I don't have the time: I would try to connect you with a member who has time, if non is available then (which is highly unlikely) I'll implore you to either suspend the deal or trade with someone you are sure is trusted on the thread (even then, biko do your research: ask around and google is your friend).

3). If bitcoins are involved, ma bank account ain't getting involved (I too guard my limit jealously o, even though I have had to 'borrow' accounts on occasion)

4). When I ask you for where your bitcoin wallet is, no be because I want to hack it, it's to make transactions faster and allow for transparency (blockchain to other wallets can b crazy at times, also it saves you transaction charges sometimes, if doing intra wallet transfers) plus I always prefer to give you an empty wallet.

So for me, I'd say let the free service continue, it's worked thus far, it ain't broken yet. Why attempt to fix what is not broken?

I've had a really busy day and I need to crash early, so off to bed I go.

Biko, na beg I dey beg, make una try not to add 10-30 pages before I wake.

Thanks in anticipation of una cooperation.


Hmmm...should I copy singapore and do the FtC thingy? Nah...1person acting lyk an overgrown kid on the thread is enuf jare...for now

mrmaze:
Do you want to buy pounds

No, he wants to sell

Bookiemart01:
Ermmmm Bdavis, could you please point out where I asked tooltip to accept #420/$?

You pointed out he had 2options...I jst zeroed in on the option I felt know you wouldn't even consider. ...page 824

You are right I wouldn't accept 420/$ after we agreed on 445 but then you forgot to add that I won't come on here to exchange words or post Whatsapp conversations if I truly can get the culprit in trouble. For me, public opinion on personal matters that I have control over doesn't count because I'll have so messed up whoever the person is privately.


Like I said: I know wetin you go do or how you would handle the matter. I still remember that 'thunder' you sent to singapore and I (even though I caught the thunder and killed it before he reach singapore, so e no even know sef)

Singapore no ask me, I ain't telling.



If you read what I posted properly, you'll see where I gave him options of what to do. If elot does not change his mind about 420 the opinion of everyone who has condemned payment @420/$ does not count if tooltip doesn't carry out is threat of reporting to authorities or getting elot into trouble. All will be e-ranting that produces no result.

As such, I don't believe in e-ranting or e-wars so I don't bring up issues on nairaland if I have means of settling amicably or in an hostile manner as long as my money is complete in my pocket or bank account.

Again,if will interest you to know I have never done any business with any of tooltip or elot so I wasn't sentimental about what I posted as none of them had helped me in any way. I don't owe them and they don't owe me.


That part of my post didn't even see you in the line up.



Kindly knock off the impression that I support refund @420...else I go enter the wall ba?

ladyF:

Abeg extend the free btc reach me na... biko epp a poor sister...

Hmmm...Awoof dey run Belle o

tonyx4x44:

Bro you make too much sense walahi... No wall entering for you. You can sit on the wall
I am hundred percent sure that if the person involved was not a 'big name' half of the thread would have instantly branded him scammer.
wetin hard to return person money if you do not approve the transaction? (you are free to remove every transfer and miscellaneous charges)

For your mind now, you like me ba? You say make I sit on the wall, yet you no gimme ladder, you no know say I be rara ni? How I go take climb the wall?

Clone2020:
Previous episode na "purple mastermind" or "purple eyeglasses" and different variations with the word "purple". Now the trending word is "enter the wall."

This month I will gladly pay my internet bill without delay or fuss, it has been money well spent once again.

Can't wait for another episode of Keeping Up With the Exchangers

I swear if to say na yankee this forum dey, this thread for don get its own reality TV show.

Singapore1:


@bolded as in en.. for the first time i like dragnet NON-BIAS ... dragnet 2.0
@second bolded .. e be like say i go dey support dem ladies so as to be getting free nude pix

Let the akara seller catch u. OYO lo wa

Ok, so the matter has been settled, albeit partially (so it would seem)

Now for those who do not know, here is the truth of the matter: those who take cash deposits in the yankee would attest to this:

Only on very RARE occasions do you get the requested cash deposit @ the time you make the request. It is usually delayed, sometimes the delay could take few days, sometimes a week or more. Now whilst tooltip erred by not informing on the 2nd deposit (although webcontractor would have us believe otherwise) it still doesn't change anything cos every business has its kinks and that's how yankee cash deposits work...to a large extent. Those who are involved in it would know.

So on this score, elot's claim is baseless...@point number 1

Point number2: there are inconsistencies in elot's claims (and I'm really surprised people are not seeing it or choosing to ignore it)

*elot claims he can't withdraw so as not to get flagged: this is bull and a manipulation of the truth. I have done withdrawals of same amount deposited same day and gone ahead to remit the said funds to concerned parties. Flags only go off when such deposits and instant withdrawals become too frequent, especially if they are $10k and above. This is the actual fact, so unless elot is saying he does such on a regular basis, of which he should have jst come out2say so, which tooltip from all his conversation and utterances, which points him out to b a perfect gentleman (no let ur head swell, I jst dey talk wetin I c, no b say I dey pay u compliment: cos u never agree2sell me dollar for once )would have understood and most likely agreed with.

*elot claims he has over 110k customers and moves $50k daily...from same said account he is afraid to get flagged cos of $5,400. Like I always say: wisdom and foolery are very easy to spot.

*elot is hinging d price of the $ on his sale of btc. Now my question to elot is this: if btc suddenly soars and he starts selling at 560/btc$, and tooltip now says he should remit@ 520/$, would he say: tooltip, u b correct guy, chop knuckle, I go forward@520/$ to ur account? An agreement is an agreement and what he is doing is simply a breach of contract.

One business has nothing2do with the other, what you use the dollar for is none of your supplier's business. Even at that, you are buying dollar@445/$ and selling btc@ 480/$ that's still 35naira on every single dollar and you are here screaming blue murder cos you are no longer making the 110/$ you are used to? Haba! It's business there are highs and there are lows, you still aren't making a loss, all you'll need to do is adjust small. Besides, there are a million and one ways to use btc outside mmm. Go figure! You are a business man, guy do some research, it's what keeps every business alive.

To all those wey dey talk say make tooltip collect the bar@420/$ @justi4jesu, bookiemart01 and crew: I have just 1 question, biko make una ansa am: if una b tooltip, una go collect am?

We know what you guys would do if the situation were reversed o, well at least, as far as bookiemart01 goes and ur statement actually shocked me! For justi4jesu, I wasn't surprised, it was expected.

Another shocker I had during this whole saga I got courtesy of none other than...dragnet! As in, I shock! For the very 1st time in my nairaland existence, drag baba and I are actually on the same page on an issue with same opinions! @dragnet: did you go on holiday or something? I swear, I'm loving this new improved version: dragnet 2.0 abeg chop knuckle baba! If to say you no be Muslim ni, I for send black label.

To cap it all: like I have always said: communication is key! @elot, you need to improve on this area, your integrity is tied to how you relate with people.

Even assuming tooltips money ain't clean (pls note: I said assuming, for the simple sake of argument: I am not insinuating nothing) and as a result he can't get d feds involved, 1single anonymous call or tip can have your whole life in the US crumbling like a pack of cards. I have personally seen this happen. So please be careful.

And to all my fellow NLders, when issues like this come up, biko let us try to mediate appropriately and not sit on the line of personal favors. Like signapore01 would say: some peeps be commenting like dem dey get nude pictures.

@onatisi, biko no quote me and tell me to enter the wall o, seems dat has become ur favorite slang now.

elot:

Itold him that the price is crashing and i cannot even pay for the first $4,000 he sent to me right now, i have not even paid for the $4,000 then he went ahead to deposit another $5,400 which i didnt ordered for, meanwhile he knows the price still keep crashing, meaning that no one is buying from him at the old rate, only if he can buy Bitcoin from me too @ 525, then i willpay him at old rate

@elot: every explanation when properly presented would always make sense.

But here is the crux of the matter: you have a product you don't need cos you can't afford the cost of the product. Seller has given you option to refund it. Why not refund it and let the matter be put to rest? Why keep what you don't need and waste time bargaining demanding to pay a price seller has clearly stated he won't accept.

This thing no be rocket science, why people just like unnecessary drama?

EnterPRO:


At a point you agreed to accept payment in btc, then later said no. Why?

Why not accept btc for now. To sell or as insurance. He can buy it back from you next week too.

Elot, why spend the $5400 when you don't have naira to pay and btc price is falling? If you haven't spent it, why not return it?

Bro, you said it all. Also@ tooltip, with the first episode, you should have sent out the word to stop all payment to his account. That would have prevented the second episode.

In other news, please be careful when using 'escrow'. If someone tells you they are using bdavis or tabbaz for escrow, biko, check the number on their whatsapp and make sure it tallies with their nairaland signature. Drop the 'escrow' , security code for him to quote you with on nairaland.

Buyers and sellers, biko shine una eye...formats are springing up. Be careful, be very careful, be very very careful.

ucosuagwu:
Please hello guys
UBA bank, which card is used for online international transactions, I know its limit is $100/ month. But please i want to know which card works for it, is it Visa or Mastercard

Mastercard

HazzanTazzan:


As if I care who ur Yansh opening category is...

Even small fries be forming cabals on Nl business section

Wisdom and foolery are very easy to spot.

ozor1:
oga..I've told you before..I do deals with people here I don't even know
I'm really okay with the little deals I get...I don't need to shout over here

Small deals are ok, but bro, your intergrity is@stake here...just got a call from whizcode, $1k worth of btc paid, you claimed to have sent $400 worth of btc, but refuse to send transaction hash ID, and you've gone awol...and him na ur regular customer o, abeg come clear the air and settle dis matter, it's more complicated than that just $1k you collected from him.

Hope this won't be a repeat of your episode with micky...you no need am o

ozor1:
im here

Erm...pls anyone should chill with this guy for now. @ozor1: you have a case with whizcode: $1k btc case, you've not delivered, and you've stopped picking his calls or responding to messages, hope you never carry him money go do Christmas for village?

Biko come over to the appropriate thread and clear your name.

We can't have good guys going bad.

For now, I'd say your reliability is on pause.

ozor1:
I'll buy your fiverr earnings at N400/$
N410/$ funds above $200

Erm...pls anyone should chill with this guy for now. @ozor1: you have a case with whizcode: $1k btc case, you've not delivered, and you've stopped picking his calls or responding to messages, hope you never carry him money go do Christmas for village?

Biko come over to the appropriate thread and clear your name.

We can't have good guys going bad

wamiikechukwu:


@ bold,

A typical Nigerian mind set, he won't share his knowledge(power) , he will want to dominate others with his knowledge (power) but he will want to acquire knowledge (power) from other sources.

I am convinced that now that Nigeria WILL NEVER be better.

I disagree bro...how many 'wealth building seminars' have you gone to (in and outside of Nigeria) where you are told step-by-step how to build wealth or capacity?

You are given the requisite knowledge needed, the onus is on you to expand, develop, create and channel what has been disseminated. In this case: outside of the website, says it all.

People look but don't see, the wise see, even with eyes that are closed.

HazzanTazzan:


im not saying he aint a Nigerian...
if he deals with Nigerians, abeg wetin those ones dey use the coin for if not ponzi scheme?

im simply asking questions cos i dont know...
if you know, kindly tell me ..

as for some others that are quoting me stupidly, just shut up if you dont know the answers to my questions...

i dey para mode right now

I no fit tell you dude cos:

1). I'll be exposing his trade secret without his permission (e don even drop me messages4d oda room say make I mind masef)

2). No be every1person dey open yansh 4, and unfortunately, u don't blong2ma 'yansh opening category'...sorry