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Why are this people like this? Why must you bring shame to us? This is not fair Yeebhoes!

Yei!!! Who slap me?

Unlimitk:
U dis dumb head running up and down nairaland I was seeing how u were shouting yoruba Muslims dominated Yoruba land.

I was just looking, I don't have your time.

With all the research I've done, now seeing u running up and down is making me laugh.

Know even those dumb ibos can't stand me on nairaland, its just that I'm busy.

When I have time and give u facts u will shut up

Shut up jor, na so una go dey talk. You know get time but you were able to read a thread of 8 pages. Don't deceive anyone here, I'll be waiting for your rubbish facts.

Olawalesmarter:
They even voted for Atiku massively, Atiku won Oyo state that is a Muslim Majority state

Abi na, Atiku got votes in Muslim populated towns like Iseyin and Shaki.

Bede2u:
the guy is saying the truth. Yoruba moslems are becoming radicalised. We saw it in the last election

Because they refused to vote Atiku Ole Barawo?

Nice article, I don't support muric most of the time.

IkpuMmadu:
Unfortunately they don't leave in peace we saw the hijab war in Lagos and Ibadan and I don't want to talk about the one by aregbe dude in Osun


Yoruba land is divided

Those causing the disagreements are Pentecostal churches, Yorubas weren't like this 30 years ago. How can Hijab cause problems between Muslims and Christians? This is a Muslim clothing, even the colonial masters allowed it but it became a problem for some Yoruba Christians.

The shitta bey mosque when it commissioned more than 100 years had Yoruba Christian preachers amongst the people invited to commission it, but this can't happen again today. Bigotry is now the other of the day, a Yoruba Christian lady I liked bluntly told me she can't marry me because I'm a Muslim, another I met in Camp became uneasy because I don't joke with my daily prayers. Things are happening but we pretend.

HopeAtHand:
What if I show you proof of Yoruba Islamic terrorist

Michael Adebowale and Michael Adebolajo, we already know so don't do as if you sabi all

kelvinginzie:
I hope the people of KANO have seen that APC is a fraudalent party hiding under BUHARI's fake integrity

I still don't understand how this concerns Buhari?

BORNTOSUCKPUSSY:
Apc should win i want hausa ppl to enjoy their sai baba mai gaskiya integrity 419....they think buhari is an angel...

How does this concern Buhari?

abdulwastecx:
Muslim are a majority in the southwest even in a state like Ondo where I am from there is a substantial Muslim population.

Yoruba are very liberal people, we are one irrespective of religion, nobody should to muric serious

This is what I've been saying, I'm even surprised about Ondo. I heard many are becoming Muslims and Muslims who weren't serious before are now, when I was traveling to Lagos, I followed Ekiti I was surprised to see Muslim populated towns there.

I'm Buhari supporter but I don't want Ganduje to win

Binikingdowm:
I now want ganduje to win kano to see what the people will say.

They were laughing igbos for voting ikpezu and Yoruba for voting sanwo olu.

A man caught taking dollars is getting reelected

Nobody was laughing at any Yorubas for voting Sanwoolu, I'm not supporting Ganduje per SE but if he wins it, he's far better than most SE governors.

mandarin:
Yoruba land is what many societies look forward to in attaining peace on religions. Yoruba are so interwoven and most families have members in all the major religions. However for the sake of information, Yoruba people and may be the country of Brazil have the largest number of christian converts into Pentecostalism in the world but I know China and Iran are also moving fast in rates.

If census is conducted I doubt if Christians in Yoruba land can be less than 68% and shocking it will be because for instance, a place like Ibadan has a huge Muslim to christian converts especially in the old quarters and the 40years and below population are seeing Christianity as more fashionable and being driven into Christianity to overcome challenges of life. Ijebu has lots of christian converts too. The state that can probably still lay claims to more christians than muslims is Kwara in Offa, Omu Aran and even the dominance in Ilorin is not that large at all.

Religion has never been Yoruba problem from time immemorial and groups like MURIC will die a natural death. The effect of Pentecostal christianity is huge in Yoruba land and every effort to slow it down failed and I think in the next 10 years over 70% of under 50years will be christians in that bracket.

The argument however is the philosophical life of the Yoruba that transcend religion.

When I saw you claiming more Christians than Muslims in Offa and Omu Aran, then you obviously don't know what you're talking about. All parts of Yorubaland has converts to Christianity and no one denies this fact, but Ijebus and Ibadan you stated are majority Muslims despite this. Pentecostal churches are the ones responsible for creating grudges between Yoruba Christians and Muslims and their activities aren't yielding results like 20 years ago. Their influences isn't there anymore as many Yoruba Muslims now know what they're doing, Muslims have began missionary activities and it's yielding great results as many Christians are now embracing Islam. This is a fact!

EdiAbali:
Let him just show you one Igbo celebrity who is a Muslim, whether North or South

What of a politician and a traditional ruler? And as for your reply concerning any group, I'm not referring to any group on facebook but individuals themselves. If you want the handle of the guy, I can give you, just one person you'll find many.

EdiAbali:
As an Igbo man in my early 30, I have never seen or met an Igbo Muslim before,
I only know one Igbo man whom people told me was a Muslim, he stayed long in the North, converted and married 2 Hausa women, when he came back to my village, he was practicing Islam but now he's a traditionalist, he lost his first wife, his second wife is now a Christian
Only on the internet I see some people claiming Igbo Muslims,

You not meeting them doesn't mean they don't exist, I met an Igbo Muslim from Imo State in 2013 during an Islamic camp in abuja. I met most in Abuja, I know one who even contested for presidency in 2003 - he was born a Muslim as his father was a Muslim. There many of them, they exist and this is a fact.

Rotimi47:
What I sent to you state 2015 which is more recent than the 2010 or so that you're posting here.

It's not 2015, what are you reading exactly?

Go and check resent survey and that of CIA as it shows that Christians are more in numbers.

So does others show Muslims to be majority.

As per the Christian places I mentioned, they are also densely populated and you have 2 or more towns & villages to every town or village with higher Muslim population.

Which places exactly?

Rotimi47:
Yorubas are not divided as you're trying to imply.

Yorubas have always been one and will continue to be one.

Pastor Oyedepo was born into a Muslim family but he converted to Christianity and there are several people like that but he never hated Muslims as I only see him speak against fulani killing.

The guy's a bigot, do you know what he did to his family when he became a Christian and what he still does to those who aren't Christians?

As per religion with the highest population in Yorubaland; Christianity top the list.

You're yet to prove this.

It's not an hidding thing; Just move from one village or town to another to checkout facts.

For every village or town with higher Muslim population you have 3 or more with higher Christian population.

This is not true, Muslim towns and villages are actually densely populated. This is a fact.

Thonee:
Meanwhile the hausas/ fulanis and the entire arap still see Yoruba Muslims as fake, an hausa Muslim can't still worship in a mosque led by a Yoruba Muslim cos they see them as fake

how come I led prayer in Zaria 2 days ago?

How come Sheikh AbdulWahab Ajia teaches people in Medina, Saudi Arabia?

You see why you people are disgusting liars?

Rotimi47:
Lol, Why bring Oyo dialect something like this? I am Yoruba and know a lot about things that have to do with Yoruba.

The way Yoruba is spoken change from one village to another as well as from one town to another. Our spoken Yoruba differ from each other and as such you can say they speak Oyo. Because it similar don't make it the same.

Are you saying you have more Muslims in iseyin, Esa-oke, Modakeke, ijebu-ijesha, komu just to mention a few.

Furthermore, several ibadan indigenous people have converted to Christianity and I have many of them as friends. Some are even above 80 while some in their 40s.

I am a Lagosian by all respect/aspect and I ain't a Muslim but my Surname sound like a core Muslim name but I don't have a single Muslim in my family except for relatives who are very few.(Extended ones)

We Yorubas have always been one but Muric and other fanatics are working to put a divide amongst Yorubas.

Aregbesola also did more harm to Osun by trying to bring religion into politics and that almost overshadowed his programmes.

Let me say that, facts are there for all to see and it is not hidden. The major avenue that made the Muslims popular in the South West before now was politics and the Chritians are now going into politics as against when they see Nigerian politics/politicians as association of the occults or for the occults.

Let me ask you a simply question; why do you think they failed to include region distribution in census results? Go and find out and get back to me with the full truth.

Inconclusion, all the physical and every other signs and facts shows that we simply have more Christians than Muslims.

You're yet to show us those signs and facts that point to your notion. No one is saying Yorubas are 100% Muslims! but Muslims are the majority. My family are mostly Muslims just like you but Christians are extreme extended, it's normal. The people who began to divvied Yorubas were the likes of Oyedepo and Pentecostal churches. Oyedepo made many people dislike Christianity in Igbominaland and this wasn't the case before. Muslims are now serious unlike before, these are facts you're denying

mubbyzhe:
Lol, normally I don't like arguing online, because I may not follow up to reply again. But the truth is closer to what BreadandBeans have been saying concerning the religion population in SW. Most towns with Oyo dialect, and closely related ones like Igbomina, Bolo etc. have higher number of Muslims than Christians, while other dialects have more of Christians than Muslims, major examples in Osun, places like Oshogbo, Ede, Ejigbo, Iwo, tends to have higher number of Muslims, while places like Ile-Ife, Ilesha, tends to have higher number of Christians. However, since Oyo dialect dominate Osun, Muslims tends to be higher. Same in Oyo state, with maybe exception of Ogbomoso (which I even doubt), most original family houses in Ibadan are Muslims, though you will find more churches than mosques in the city. Ondo, Ekiti, are not Oyo dialect speakers, hence more Christians than Muslims, Ogun tends to be influenced by southern Ibadan, plus they're not originally at war with Oyo dialect speakers back in the days, unlike Ijesha/Ekiti parapo. while Lagos has more Muslims among people of Oyo dialect speaking origin, than others. The Christian part of the Ogun were influence by the early missionaries from the White, while the Oyo dialect speakers were influenced by the West African missionaries from the past like people from Mali, Senegal, Gambia, etc. The Ijesha/Ekiti might probably chose Christianity due to their differences with the Oyo dialect speakers, of which might have influenced the Ondos and Ife.
Not to digress too much, yes Yoruba might not be one when it comes to religion, but Yorubas are one when it comes to sociopolitical issues, and when it comes to spirituality, Yoruba will leave nonsense religion behind and embrace traditionalism

This is the perfect truth, in addition to this. The Ijebus are mostly Muslims, this is due to Oba Kosoko, till date in Ijebu Ode there's a celebration they carry out after big sallah. This tradition started more than 100 years ago when a big chief amongst the Ijebus embraced Islam, so they're still celebrating till today. I don't know these guys are denying the obvious.

Rotimi47:
The survey section is of 2001 and it's talking about religion distribution in Nigeria as a whole; it simply relates it the the 2001 data to that of 2015 that put the Christian population as higher than that of Muslims.

Recheck as the data speak for itself.

The South West have more Christians than Muslims but if you talk about Abeokuta, ijebu, iwo and ede; you might be right but outside that, NA.

Aren't you reading? Look

The Pew Forum in a 2010 report compared reports from several sources.[3] The 1963 Nigerian census found that 38% of the population was Muslim, 36% Christian, and 26% other; the 2008 MEASURE Demographic and Health Survey (DHS) found 53% Muslim, 45% Christian, and 2% other; the 2008 Afrobarometer poll found 50% Christian, 49% Muslim, and 1% other; Pew's own survey found 52% Muslim, 46% Christian, and 1% other.[3][4][5]

Even the above Muslim populated towns you mentioned are densely populated, so what exactly are you talking about?

Rotimi47:
More Muslim than Christian is a big lie.

Really?

I am a Yoruba who have been all over the South West not to talk of outside the South West or Outside the country.

That's funny because I'm also a Yoruba and I've been to Yoruba communities in South West and North Central.

You people only have a say because Christians shy away from politics because of religious beliefs while you people see politics as a means to have control over how things are done.

Now this is very laughable, Christians have ruled many times in SW. In Osun, Ogun, Ekiti, Ondo, Oyo and Lagos, infact we're going to have Christians ruling almost all the states in SW except Osun. And this was the case in before 2015, so what the hell are you talking about that Christians don't participate in politics?

Kindly mention towns, villages/states in the South West that have more Muslims than Christians apart from Sarki, ede, ijebu or Abekuta?

Iseyin, Iwo, Ibadan, Epe, Idogo, Aiyetoro (both in Ogun states), Shaki, Ijebuland, ati bebelo

Compare both religion festive periods and also worship days/number of worship houses in the South West.

This is actually pointless.

Furthermore, the Bible was is translated to Yoruba decade ago and this made it easy for Yorubas to really know the content of the Bible and Christianity is very peaceful.

During this time, Muslims were already in the South West numbering in their thousands if not millions.

The above makes Christianity more acceptable to lots of people and the Population is increasing by the day in the South West and several other parts outside the South West.

You didn't make any sense, you didn't compare anything. In the early years, Islam was accepted because a lot of some aspects of Islam conformed with the traditional religion, so many accepted not the other way. Christianity in south west grew largely due to western education by missionaries.

On Ajimobi, go and checkout those employed during his 8 years in power and you will find out that at least 90% are Muslims and please mention the majority Muslim villages and towns in Oyo State and South West apart from the ones I have mentioned.

I've told you exactly what happened and no because he favored Muslims, if that's the case, why PDP get a lot of votes from Shaki? A known Muslim stronghold in Oyo?

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Rotimi47:
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The Church and the Mosque face each other across Independence Avenue and Constitution Avenue in the national capital, Abuja[1]
Religion in Nigeria [2][3][4][5]

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Nigeria, the most populous African country (with a population of over 182 million in 2015),[6] is nearly equally divided between Christianity and Islam, though the exact ratio is uncertain.The majority of Nigerian Muslims are Sunni and are concentrated in the northern region of the country, while Christians dominate in the south. Most of Nigeria's Christians are Protestant (broadly defined) though about a quarter are Catholic.[4]

From the 1990s to the 2000s, there was significant growth in Protestant churches, including the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Winners' Chapel, Christ Apostolic Church (the first Aladura Movement in Nigeria), Deeper Christian Life Ministry, (Christian Reformed Church, Nigeria),[Evangelical Church Winning All]], Mountain of Fire and Miracles, Christ Embassy, The Synagogue Church Of All Nations, The Common Wealth of Zion Assembly (COZA), the Aladura Church[7] (indigenous Christian churches being especially strong in the Yoruba and Igbo areas), and of evangelical churches in general. These churches have spilled over into adjacent and southern areas of the middle belt. Denominations like the Seventh-day Adventist also exist.[8]

Other leading Protestant churches in the country are the Church of Nigeria of the Anglican Communion, the Assemblies of God Church, the Nigerian Baptist Convention and The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations. The Yoruba area contains a large Anglican population, while Igboland is predominantly Catholic and the Edo area is predominantly Assemblies of God, which was introduced into Nigeria by Augustus Ehurie Wogu and his associates at Old Umuahia.

Nigeria has the largest Muslim population in sub-Saharan Africa. Islam dominates the north and has a number of supporters in the South Western, Yoruba part of the country. In terms of Nigeria's major ethnic groups' religious affiliations, the Hausa ethnic group in the North is mostly Muslim, the West which is the Yoruba tribe is divided among mainly Christianity, Islam and traditional religions, while the Igbos of the East and the Ijaw in the South are predominantly Christians (Catholics) and some practitioners of traditional religions.[9] The middle belt of Nigeria contains the largest number of minority ethnic groups in Nigeria and they are mostly Christians and members of traditional religions with few Muslim converts.[10][11]

The vast majority of Muslims in Nigeria are Sunni, belonging to Maliki school of jurisprudence; however, a sizeable minority also belongs to Shafi madhhab. A large number of Sunni Muslims are members of Sufi brotherhoods. Most Sufis follow the Qadiriyya, Tijaniyyah or Mouride movement. A significant Shia minority exists (see Shia in Nigeria). Some northern states have incorporated Sharia law into their previously secular legal systems, which has brought about some controversy.[12] Kano State has sought to incorporate Sharia law into its constitution.[13] The majority of Quranists follow the Kalo Kato or Quraniyyun movement. There are also Ahmadiyya and Mahdiyya minorities.[14]

I believe you are able to pick one thing or 2 from the above.

Go to the survey section, what you quoted here was explained better.

nwanyionitsha:
I never knew of their facebook presence, i had to go and look at their page now and i can't see any 'bocu' or maybe there is something else you mean by bocu?
I was expecting like 1million members, but i can't even fine upto 200k subscribers or members on any of their pages or forum.

Who's talking about facebook groups? Why are jumpy? Do you want their handles? I'll give you just one and you'll get many others from him as whenever he posts others comment.

Blackmiserable:
Muslims are majority in Kwara State? Absolutely. Oyo state? No, you don't mean it. Osun state? Nah, nah, nah! That's just not true. Let's start with Osun State. If you have traveled to Osun state, I would have asked you that in terms of population, mention the top 6 densely populated local government and do the same for Oyo State.

So me being to Osun translates I should have toured round the whole state? Please go straight to the point, even tho I'm from Kwara I haven't been to the whole Kwara, so this isn't a point. If you have facts, please present it.

nwanyionitsha:
You a the one who is dumb.
I don't know anything about the Chinese or their religion.
Now, you are insisting on igbo muslims and every igbo person who quoted you told you there is nothing like igbo muslims, but you a yoruba man keeps insisting on igbo muslims.
Now, i want you to quote and invite your igbo muslim friends on nairaland.
Nairaland info says it has at least one million subscribers. At least, you should have one igbo muslim friend who must be lamenting to you about 'igbo muslims marginalization in igboland' in your islamic section, abi you want to do your usual propaganda work.

They exist because I've met them physically, not many people know about nairaland. There are many on facebook, a widely accepted and known platform. If you want their handles, I can give you, stop spamming my mention please.

Ategberoson:
alaye leave story. west states I'm talking about 6 States here, even in Kwara that you keep ranting about oro town are majorly Christian, I don't know about other towns. if I need to be analysing these states I listed earlier those living there that are here can confirmed it


stop arguing what you don't know

No, in Oro town it's mixed. 50-50, I have relatives from Oro town and they're mixed. The reason why there many Christians in some of this towns is because of missionaries who converted many Muslims and traditionalists to Christianity. Missionaries were really successful there, but Ijebus are mostly Muslims and Egbas Christians. This is a fact

nwanyionitsha:
Of course na.
Since you are the one that knows more about igboland than we igbos.
I am from Onitsha, i have never seen a mosque in Onitsha. It may be located somewhere, i don't know where sha. Are you telling me a metropolitan city like Onitsha has no igbo muslims?
Abeg oga, go and rest.

To be honest, I've never seen an Anambra muslim. I've only met from delta, IMO, Abia and Ebonyi but not anambra.

nwanyionitsha:
You are the one insisting on igbo muslims. Now, show us the igbo muslims on nairaland. Abi they aren't online too.

not many people are on Nairaland, but on facebook, dem bocu die. If you want their handles, I can give you.